From cyril.dangerville at thalesgroup.com Wed Feb 12 12:03:16 2014 From: cyril.dangerville at thalesgroup.com (DANGERVILLE Cyril) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:03:16 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-api-cross] Fi-WARE Live Demo - Access Control & IdM GE Message-ID: <32469_1392202999_52FB54F7_32469_2073_1_DDCC8EDACD06614C9CE3DFEA2835890070CA0A8656@THSONEA01CMS10P.one.grp> Hello Fermin, I would like to have some information about the evolution of the Live Demo. In can see on the following page that there is a "Mashable Application" scenario in progress: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Live_Demo_Evolution Do you have some textual description or architecture diagram that gives more info on the scenario, esp. how you intend to implement it? My concern is to involve the Access Control & IdM GEs in the scenario. I have been told that the IdM GE from UPM would be involved. If so, is there some access control involved like in the first Live Demo, so that we can use the IdM GE in combination with the Access Control GE to achieve that? If not, do you see another opportunity to use the Access Control GE there? Thank you for your help. Regards, Cyril -- Cyril DANGERVILLE, Thales Services Access Control GE Owner | FI-WARE WP8 Security Chapter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fermin at tid.es Thu Feb 13 16:45:28 2014 From: fermin at tid.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ferm=EDn_Gal=E1n_M=E1rquez?=) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:45:28 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-api-cross] Fi-WARE Live Demo - Access Control & IdM GE In-Reply-To: <32469_1392202999_52FB54F7_32469_2073_1_DDCC8EDACD06614C9CE3DFEA2835890070CA0A8656@THSONEA01CMS10P.one.grp> References: <32469_1392202999_52FB54F7_32469_2073_1_DDCC8EDACD06614C9CE3DFEA2835890070CA0A8656@THSONEA01CMS10P.one.grp> Message-ID: <52FCE898.6020605@tid.es> Dear Cyril, Please find my comments inline. El 12/02/2014 12:03, DANGERVILLE Cyril escribi?: Hello Fermin, I would like to have some information about the evolution of the Live Demo. In can see on the following page that there is a "Mashable Application" scenario in progress: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Live_Demo_Evolution [FGM1] That wiki has not been updated since August 2013, so it is pretty much obsolete. Do you have some textual description or architecture diagram that gives more info on the scenario, esp. how you intend to implement it? [FGM2] Maybe do you refer to the description and diagram at https://github.com/telefonicaid/fiware-livedemoapp? However, note this diagram (and that LiveDemo code repository itself) are related with the mashup part of the demo we did at Brussels in mid 2013 review, the part related with the security framework is not included there. My concern is to involve the Access Control & IdM GEs in the scenario. I have been told that the IdM GE from UPM would be involved. If so, is there some access control involved like in the first Live Demo, so that we can use the IdM GE in combination with the Access Control GE to achieve that? If not, do you see another opportunity to use the Access Control GE there? [FGM3] I'm afraid that I'm not the right one to answer that question, given that I'm not aware of the evolution of IDM or Access Control GE within the security chapter and its potential usage in the LiveDemo scenarios from now on. Maybe you should discuss this internally within the security chapter or with Juanjo himself, as Chief Architect of the project. Thank you for your help. Regards, Cyril -- Cyril DANGERVILLE, Thales Services Access Control GE Owner | FI-WARE WP8 Security Chapter Best regards, ------ Ferm?n ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From cyril.dangerville at thalesgroup.com Thu Feb 13 17:59:37 2014 From: cyril.dangerville at thalesgroup.com (DANGERVILLE Cyril) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:59:37 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-api-cross] Fi-WARE Live Demo - Access Control & IdM GE In-Reply-To: <52FCE898.6020605@tid.es> References: <32469_1392202999_52FB54F7_32469_2073_1_DDCC8EDACD06614C9CE3DFEA2835890070CA0A8656@THSONEA01CMS10P.one.grp> <52FCE898.6020605@tid.es> Message-ID: <29641_1392310781_52FCF9FA_29641_4_1_DDCC8EDACD06614C9CE3DFEA2835890070CA85BCAF@THSONEA01CMS10P.one.grp> Dear Fermin, Considering that I am one of the GE owners in the Security chapter (the AC GE owner actually), I can find out the latest evolutions of the IdM and AC GEs. So let's say that all I wish to know is the latest evolution of the Live Demo scenario, that Telefonica intends to implement for the next review, regardless of security aspects and current implementation status. So if we forget about security for a moment, can I take the description on Github you mentioned as the latest status in your opinion? Or are you aware of more recent changes on Telefonica's side ? Then I can figure out with the help of the other Security GE owners how we can fit in. Anyway, if, at some point, you intend to use an IdM GE in the scenario for instance, let me know. Thank you for your help. Regards, Cyril De : Ferm?n Gal?n M?rquez [mailto:fermin at tid.es] Envoy? : jeudi 13 f?vrier 2014 16:45 ? : DANGERVILLE Cyril Cc : Fiware-api-cross at lists.fi-ware.eu; Carolina Garc?a Le?n Objet : Re: Fi-WARE Live Demo - Access Control & IdM GE Dear Cyril, Please find my comments inline. El 12/02/2014 12:03, DANGERVILLE Cyril escribi?: Hello Fermin, I would like to have some information about the evolution of the Live Demo. In can see on the following page that there is a "Mashable Application" scenario in progress: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Live_Demo_Evolution [FGM1] That wiki has not been updated since August 2013, so it is pretty much obsolete. Do you have some textual description or architecture diagram that gives more info on the scenario, esp. how you intend to implement it? [FGM2] Maybe do you refer to the description and diagram at https://github.com/telefonicaid/fiware-livedemoapp? However, note this diagram (and that LiveDemo code repository itself) are related with the mashup part of the demo we did at Brussels in mid 2013 review, the part related with the security framework is not included there. My concern is to involve the Access Control & IdM GEs in the scenario. I have been told that the IdM GE from UPM would be involved. If so, is there some access control involved like in the first Live Demo, so that we can use the IdM GE in combination with the Access Control GE to achieve that? If not, do you see another opportunity to use the Access Control GE there? [FGM3] I'm afraid that I'm not the right one to answer that question, given that I'm not aware of the evolution of IDM or Access Control GE within the security chapter and its potential usage in the LiveDemo scenarios from now on. Maybe you should discuss this internally within the security chapter or with Juanjo himself, as Chief Architect of the project. Thank you for your help. Regards, Cyril -- Cyril DANGERVILLE, Thales Services Access Control GE Owner | FI-WARE WP8 Security Chapter Best regards, ------ Ferm?n ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. 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The situation is that at the present moment I don't have any indication about the evolution of the LiveDemo from any of the stakeholders around it (GEi owners, WPL/WPAs or Chief Architect) related with the next FI-WARE project review . However, I understand that this situation could change as the next review date gets closer. The description at GitHub I mentioned can be considered the latests status for the mashup part of the LiveDemo. The "mashup part of" remark is important, given some parts of the demo as shown in mid 2013 review (e.g. cloud portal) are not related with the aforementioned GitHub repo. I hope this information helps... Best regards, ------ Ferm?n El 13/02/2014 17:59, DANGERVILLE Cyril escribi?: Dear Fermin, Considering that I am one of the GE owners in the Security chapter (the AC GE owner actually), I can find out the latest evolutions of the IdM and AC GEs. So let's say that all I wish to know is the latest evolution of the Live Demo scenario, that Telefonica intends to implement for the next review, regardless of security aspects and current implementation status. So if we forget about security for a moment, can I take the description on Github you mentioned as the latest status in your opinion? Or are you aware of more recent changes on Telefonica's side ? Then I can figure out with the help of the other Security GE owners how we can fit in. Anyway, if, at some point, you intend to use an IdM GE in the scenario for instance, let me know. Thank you for your help. Regards, Cyril De : Ferm?n Gal?n M?rquez [mailto:fermin at tid.es] Envoy? : jeudi 13 f?vrier 2014 16:45 ? : DANGERVILLE Cyril Cc : Fiware-api-cross at lists.fi-ware.eu; Carolina Garc?a Le?n Objet : Re: Fi-WARE Live Demo - Access Control & IdM GE Dear Cyril, Please find my comments inline. El 12/02/2014 12:03, DANGERVILLE Cyril escribi?: Hello Fermin, I would like to have some information about the evolution of the Live Demo. In can see on the following page that there is a "Mashable Application" scenario in progress: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Live_Demo_Evolution [FGM1] That wiki has not been updated since August 2013, so it is pretty much obsolete. Do you have some textual description or architecture diagram that gives more info on the scenario, esp. how you intend to implement it? [FGM2] Maybe do you refer to the description and diagram at https://github.com/telefonicaid/fiware-livedemoapp? However, note this diagram (and that LiveDemo code repository itself) are related with the mashup part of the demo we did at Brussels in mid 2013 review, the part related with the security framework is not included there. My concern is to involve the Access Control & IdM GEs in the scenario. I have been told that the IdM GE from UPM would be involved. If so, is there some access control involved like in the first Live Demo, so that we can use the IdM GE in combination with the Access Control GE to achieve that? If not, do you see another opportunity to use the Access Control GE there? [FGM3] I'm afraid that I'm not the right one to answer that question, given that I'm not aware of the evolution of IDM or Access Control GE within the security chapter and its potential usage in the LiveDemo scenarios from now on. Maybe you should discuss this internally within the security chapter or with Juanjo himself, as Chief Architect of the project. Thank you for your help. Regards, Cyril -- Cyril DANGERVILLE, Thales Services Access Control GE Owner | FI-WARE WP8 Security Chapter Best regards, ------ Ferm?n ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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