[Fiware-apps] Live demo: time plan

Davide Zerbetto davide.zerbetto at eng.it
Thu Mar 26 16:40:54 CET 2015


ok, thanks
Best regards
Davide

Il 26/03/2015 16:36, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
> Hi Davide,
>
> I have just moved the footnote referenced in the first bullet of 
> Stage1 to that bullet because Ilknur said this morning that she does 
> not know whether the use of footnotes is allowed in the document. 
> Please see if you agree with the text:
>
> The live demo will show Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) analytical capabilities 
> as a stand-alone GE (i.e. without any connection with the other GEs), 
> plus some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e.analysis built on 
> top of the data market --Store GE (WStore) + Data Portal GE (CKAN). 
> This way we will show “business” capabilities such as the need to have 
> the rights required to access the data the user wants to analyze (been 
> registered, having accepted the terms and conditions, having acquired 
> the data, etc.).
>
> I am sorry that I forgot to mention in during the confcall.
>
> Cheers,
> Javier
>
> 2015-03-26 14:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it 
> <mailto:davide.zerbetto at eng.it>>:
>
>     That's ok, I'll wait for you. No need to re-schedule it.
>     Best regards
>     Davide
>
>     Il 26/03/2015 14:39, Álvaro Arranz ha scritto:
>>     Hi Davide,
>>
>>     we cannot start until 15:00, is it possible to have it at 15
>>     o'clock or we need to reschedule it?
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Álvaro
>>
>>     On 26 March 2015 at 14:33, Davide Zerbetto
>>     <davide.zerbetto at eng.it <mailto:davide.zerbetto at eng.it>> wrote:
>>
>>         hi all
>>         here is the link of the meeting. Can we start in 5 minutes?
>>         https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/892751005
>>
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>>         Thanks and best regards
>>         Davide
>>
>>         Il 26/03/2015 12:06, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>>>         Hi Davide,
>>>
>>>         I have created this Google doc with an working version of
>>>         the time plan that integrates all the GEs, so that we could
>>>         discuss it this afternoon.
>>>
>>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Ac_TLoYJWGf0LMGRmxyU7gWmBaNncQeg3sZYQJ3fs8/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Javier
>>>
>>>         2015-03-26 10:43 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano
>>>         <jsoriano at fi.upm.es <mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>>:
>>>
>>>             Hi Davide, all,
>>>
>>>             Yes, I think that it is quite important to have a
>>>             (GoTo)meeting this afternoon and take a definitive
>>>             decision. We are available from 14:30 to 17:00.
>>>
>>>             Best regards,
>>>             Javier
>>>
>>>             2015-03-26 10:02 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano
>>>             <jsoriano at fi.upm.es <mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>>:
>>>
>>>                 Hi Davide,
>>>
>>>                 I kindly suggest that you explain your definitive
>>>                 position during the confcall we have right now. For
>>>                 the moment, what you are saying is completely
>>>                 incompatible with your current time plan proposal.
>>>                 Even more, the last bullet is contradictory with the
>>>                 previous ones (leaves everything uncertain). Are you
>>>                 saying that you will change your time plan proposal
>>>                 to accommodate it to my requests (i.e. moving stage
>>>                 3 to stage 1)?
>>>
>>>                 Best regards,
>>>                 Javier
>>>
>>>                 2015-03-26 9:53 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto
>>>                 <davide.zerbetto at eng.it
>>>                 <mailto:davide.zerbetto at eng.it>>:
>>>
>>>                     Hi Javier
>>>                     I'm sorry, but join.me <http://join.me> today
>>>                     doesn't allow to connect me by voice.
>>>                     Maybe we can schedule a gotomeeting session this
>>>                     afternoon?
>>>                     In the meanwhile, I want to clarify that:
>>>                     - we want to grant you full access to the demo
>>>                     environment (for this reason I will enforce the
>>>                     idea of using FIWARE Lab)
>>>                     - we want to have you involved from the very
>>>                     beginning
>>>                     - we want to have all your GEs in place
>>>                     according to your time schedule
>>>                     - regarding the Premium datasets and Wirecloud
>>>                     integration, we can definitely discuss about that.
>>>                     Thanks and best regards
>>>                     Davide
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                     Il 26/03/2015 09:43, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>>>>                     Hi Javier
>>>>                     can we have a quick call? here is the link
>>>>                     https://join.me/818-581-954
>>>>                     Thanks and best regards
>>>>                     Davide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     Il 26/03/2015 01:16, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>>>>>                     Hi Davide,
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Perhaps I am wrong and it is only a
>>>>>                     misunderstanding, but I can not understand
>>>>>                     your plan for the Live Demo as it is described
>>>>>                     in the time plan you have shared with us and I
>>>>>                     think that it is better to clarify it now (at
>>>>>                     the risk of being too rough, I have to say).
>>>>>                     After reading it, I have the feeling (it is
>>>>>                     explicitly said in your plan) that you do not
>>>>>                     intend to create from the 1st stage a "real"
>>>>>                     demo that integrates the use of ours GEs but a
>>>>>                     "separate" demo focused on your own GE,
>>>>>                      despite demonstrating the integrated use of
>>>>>                     different GEs is the main objective of these
>>>>>                     demos. Are you aware that all the features
>>>>>                     described for the scenario in the deliverable
>>>>>                     are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last
>>>>>                     month of the project). What are we supposed to
>>>>>                     show before that? What am I supposed to plan
>>>>>                     for the first stages?
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Then, it is not a question of adding our own
>>>>>                     planning but, instead, a question of thinking
>>>>>                     what can we do with Finesce on our side alone,
>>>>>                     "without any connection with your GE" (excerpt
>>>>>                     from your own text when read from our
>>>>>                     perspective). What do you think we can do with
>>>>>                     an existing demo we do not know (we have never
>>>>>                     seen its code, we have never seen it running
>>>>>                     before, nobody has made a demo for us, we are
>>>>>                     aware that the current data has to be
>>>>>                     anonymized)? And, again, bearing in mind
>>>>>                     that all the features described for the
>>>>>                     scenario in the deliverable are posponed until
>>>>>                     Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the project),
>>>>>                     what are we supposed to show before that? what
>>>>>                     am I supposed to plan for the first stages?
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Being that your plan, the only thing we can do
>>>>>                     is wait until Stage 3 (the last month of the
>>>>>                     project!!!) to have a real integrated demo and
>>>>>                     focus on the rest of demos for the first
>>>>>                     stages. But, do you really intend to show
>>>>>                     SpagoBI alone (in the context of the apps
>>>>>                     chapter, the only chapter involved in the
>>>>>                     demo) in the demo until the very last minute?
>>>>>
>>>>>                     IMHO what we have to do is to prioritize the
>>>>>                     integrated use of the GEs, i.e. moving the
>>>>>                     content of Stage 3 to Stage 1. We can try to
>>>>>                     create a time plan jointly with you, but this
>>>>>                     will require a couple of coordination meeting
>>>>>                     (can it be tomorrow at 9:30 with me and this
>>>>>                     Friday at 9:30 with the rest of my team?), but
>>>>>                     in the meantime, and bearing in mind the way
>>>>>                     of thinking that you have provoked on me
>>>>>                     saying that you do not intend to integrate our
>>>>>                     GEs until the last stage of the demo (for the
>>>>>                     last month of the project!!!), we need an
>>>>>                     explicit commitment from your side, without
>>>>>                     which we can not agree on participating in
>>>>>                     this demo:
>>>>>
>>>>>                     *- You (Engineering) agree on moving the
>>>>>                     content of Stage 3 to Stage 1 so that we can
>>>>>                     be sure that we will be part of the demo from
>>>>>                     the very beginning (it makes no sense to think
>>>>>                     about demos inside the demo). This implies
>>>>>                     that you will work from the very beginning on
>>>>>                     the creation of new premium datasets from the
>>>>>                     existing datasets (so that we can create and
>>>>>                     operate new data APIs and their related
>>>>>                     offerings from those premium datasets), and on
>>>>>                     that you will work (probably starting on stage
>>>>>                     2) on performing analytics on the data we will
>>>>>                     provide about the use of APIs being offered
>>>>>                     through the store (accounting,
>>>>>                     payments-per-use, revenue sharings, etc.
>>>>>                     regarding the use of those premium data APIs).*
>>>>>
>>>>>                     (Please do not misinterpret the following
>>>>>                     bullets, they do not intend to sow suspicion,
>>>>>                     but to anticipate possible problems that could
>>>>>                     eventually arise as a consequence of a current
>>>>>                     lack of awareness)
>>>>>                     - You (Engineering) agree on granting us
>>>>>                     access to the source code and all the related
>>>>>                     documentation available for the demo on top of
>>>>>                     which you have described the scenario for the
>>>>>                     Business demo. You also agree on granting us
>>>>>                     access to a working installation of that demo,
>>>>>                     with full privileges.
>>>>>                     - You (Engineering) agree on sharing with us
>>>>>                     all the videos available that can help us to
>>>>>                     understand the current demo, and a couple of
>>>>>                     demo sessions to show us the demo and to
>>>>>                     explain the necessary details to allow us to
>>>>>                     know where is the information, which datasets
>>>>>                     are available, implemented functionality, etc.
>>>>>                     - You (Engineering) agree on granting us
>>>>>                     access to the current datasets available in
>>>>>                     the demo, and agree on releasing on time (i.e.
>>>>>                     during the 1st stage) all the "anonymizing"
>>>>>                     code necessary for those datasets that require
>>>>>                     such anonymization (this can be considered as
>>>>>                     a subtask of the generation of premium
>>>>>                     datasets). Otherwise we could not use that
>>>>>                     data, nor have access to any data indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     And, last but not least, we also have to
>>>>>                     discuss an additional point: during the
>>>>>                     kickoff meeting we agreed on the need to
>>>>>                     integrate Wirecloud with SpagoBI so that we
>>>>>                     could use Wirecloud as a tool to create web
>>>>>                     dashboards from SpagoBI visualizations (and
>>>>>                     then ease their publication in external web
>>>>>                     portals, etc.). This feature is very
>>>>>                     interesting for the demo and it is my
>>>>>                     intention to plan it, but afaik you still have
>>>>>                     not created any epic/feature in this regard.
>>>>>                     What are you planning in this regard? We will
>>>>>                     be happy to help.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Best regards,
>>>>>                     Javier
>>>>>
>>>>>                     2015-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto
>>>>>                     <davide.zerbetto at eng.it
>>>>>                     <mailto:davide.zerbetto at eng.it>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>                         Hi Javier
>>>>>                         I wrote a time plan for the Live Demo for
>>>>>                         what concerns SpagoBI:
>>>>>                         /
>>>>>                         //Stage 1 (M13): the live demo will show
>>>>>                         Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) analytical
>>>>>                         capabilities as a stand-alone GE (i.e.
>>>>>                         without any connection with the other
>>>>>                         GEs), plus some usage scenarios involving
>>>>>                         other GEs, i.e. analyses built on top of
>>>>>                         the Data Portal GE (CKAN) and the Context
>>>>>                         Broker GE (Orion).//
>>>>>                         //Stage 2 (M18): we'll enrich ///Data Viz
>>>>>                         GE (SpagoBI) /to be able to perform
>>>>>                         analyses on the Big Data Analysis GE
>>>>>                         (COSMOS).//
>>>>>                         //Stage 3 (M25): //we'll enrich ///Data
>>>>>                         Viz GE (SpagoBI)/////for performing data
>>>>>                         analytics on the use of the data being
>>>>>                         offered by the Store GE (WStore), plus the
>>>>>                         creation of "Premium" datasets./
>>>>>
>>>>>                         I didn't put it on the final document yet.
>>>>>                         Could you please send me some information
>>>>>                         for the planning of your contributions?
>>>>>                         Are you going to put all your GEs in place
>>>>>                         for the first release, and then add
>>>>>                         additional functionalities?
>>>>>
>>>>>                         Thanks and best regards
>>>>>                         Davide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                         Il 20/03/2015 10:05, Davide Zerbetto ha
>>>>>                         scritto:
>>>>>>                         Hi all
>>>>>>                         Ilknur asked me to define a time plan for
>>>>>>                         the Business demo, and therefore I have
>>>>>>                         to mix contributions from our colleagues
>>>>>>                         working on FINESCE project, SpagoBI team
>>>>>>                         contributions, and contribution from UPM.
>>>>>>                         What do you foresee for live demos? do
>>>>>>                         you foresee more releases? do you have
>>>>>>                         any time plan in mind?
>>>>>>                         Thanks and best regards
>>>>>>                         Davide
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         -- 
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>>>>>>                         *Davide Zerbetto*
>>>>>>                         SpagoBI Consultant
>>>>>>
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