[Fiware-apps] Live demo: time plan

Javier Soriano jsoriano at fi.upm.es
Thu Mar 26 22:49:45 CET 2015


Ok!

Javier

2015-03-26 18:49 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>:

>  Hi Javier
> I spoke with my boss regarding the idea of selling SpagoBI analytics
> capabilities: she liked the idea, but we have to think about the schedule
> of the developments.
> I removed that part on the time plan, for the moment.
> Thanks and best regards
> Davide
>
>
>
> Il 26/03/2015 16:36, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>
> Hi Davide,
>
>  I have just moved the footnote referenced in the first bullet of Stage1
> to that bullet because Ilknur said this morning that she does not know
> whether the use of footnotes is allowed in the document. Please see if you
> agree with the text:
>
>  The live demo will show Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) analytical capabilities as
> a stand-alone GE (i.e. without any connection with the other GEs), plus
> some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e.analysis built on top of the
> data market --Store GE (WStore) + Data Portal GE (CKAN). This way we will
> show “business” capabilities such as the need to have the rights required
> to access the data the user wants to analyze (been registered, having
> accepted the terms and conditions, having acquired the data, etc.).
>
>  I am sorry that I forgot to mention in during the confcall.
>
>  Cheers,
> Javier
>
> 2015-03-26 14:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>:
>
>>  That's ok, I'll wait for you. No need to re-schedule it.
>> Best regards
>> Davide
>>
>> Il 26/03/2015 14:39, Álvaro Arranz ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi Davide,
>>
>>  we cannot start until 15:00, is it possible to have it at 15 o'clock or
>> we need to reschedule it?
>>
>>  Best regards,
>> Álvaro
>>
>> On 26 March 2015 at 14:33, Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  hi all
>>> here is the link of the meeting. Can we start in 5 minutes?
>>> https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/892751005
>>>
>>>    -   Italy: +39 0 553 98 95 67
>>>     Spain: +34 931 81 6669 <%2B34%20931%2081%206669>
>>>     *Access cose:* 892-751-005
>>>
>>>  Thanks and best regards
>>> Davide
>>>
>>>  Il 26/03/2015 12:06, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Hi Davide,
>>>
>>>  I have created this Google doc with an working version of the time
>>> plan that integrates all the GEs, so that we could discuss it this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Ac_TLoYJWGf0LMGRmxyU7gWmBaNncQeg3sZYQJ3fs8/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>  Best regards,
>>> Javier
>>>
>>> 2015-03-26 10:43 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Davide, all,
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, I think that it is quite important to have a (GoTo)meeting this
>>>> afternoon and take a definitive decision. We are available from 14:30 to
>>>> 17:00.
>>>>
>>>>  Best regards,
>>>> Javier
>>>>
>>>> 2015-03-26 10:02 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Davide,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I kindly suggest that you explain your definitive position during
>>>>> the confcall we have right now. For the moment, what you are saying is
>>>>> completely incompatible with your current time plan proposal. Even more,
>>>>> the last bullet is contradictory with the previous ones (leaves everything
>>>>> uncertain). Are you saying that you will change your time plan proposal to
>>>>> accommodate it to my requests (i.e. moving stage 3 to stage 1)?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>> Javier
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-03-26 9:53 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Javier
>>>>>> I'm sorry, but join.me today doesn't allow to connect me by voice.
>>>>>> Maybe we can schedule a gotomeeting session this afternoon?
>>>>>> In the meanwhile, I want to clarify that:
>>>>>> - we want to grant you full access to the demo environment (for this
>>>>>> reason I will enforce the idea of using FIWARE Lab)
>>>>>> - we want to have you involved from the very beginning
>>>>>> - we want to have all your GEs in place according to your time
>>>>>> schedule
>>>>>> - regarding the Premium datasets and Wirecloud integration, we can
>>>>>> definitely discuss about that.
>>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>>> Davide
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Il 26/03/2015 09:43, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Javier
>>>>>> can we have a quick call? here is the link
>>>>>> https://join.me/818-581-954
>>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>>> Davide
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il 26/03/2015 01:16, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Davide,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Perhaps I am wrong and it is only a misunderstanding, but I can not
>>>>>> understand your plan for the Live Demo as it is described in the time plan
>>>>>> you have shared with us and I think that it is better to clarify it now (at
>>>>>> the risk of being too rough, I have to say). After reading it, I have the
>>>>>> feeling (it is explicitly said in your plan) that you do not intend to
>>>>>> create from the 1st stage a "real" demo that integrates the use of ours GEs
>>>>>> but a "separate" demo focused on your own GE,  despite demonstrating the
>>>>>> integrated use of different GEs is the main objective of these demos. Are
>>>>>> you aware that all the features described for the scenario in the
>>>>>> deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the
>>>>>> project). What are we supposed to show before that? What am I supposed to
>>>>>> plan for the first stages?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Then, it is not a question of adding our own planning but, instead,
>>>>>> a question of thinking what can we do with Finesce on our side alone,
>>>>>> "without any connection with your GE" (excerpt from your own text when read
>>>>>> from our perspective). What do you think we can do with an existing demo we
>>>>>> do not know (we have never seen its code, we have never seen it running
>>>>>> before, nobody has made a demo for us, we are aware that the current data
>>>>>> has to be anonymized)? And, again, bearing in mind that all the
>>>>>> features described for the scenario in the deliverable are posponed until
>>>>>> Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the project), what are we supposed to show
>>>>>> before that? what am I supposed to plan for the first stages?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Being that your plan, the only thing we can do is wait until Stage
>>>>>> 3 (the last month of the project!!!) to have a real integrated demo and
>>>>>> focus on the rest of demos for the first stages. But, do you really intend
>>>>>> to show SpagoBI alone (in the context of the apps chapter, the only chapter
>>>>>> involved in the demo) in the demo until the very last minute?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  IMHO what we have to do is to prioritize the integrated use of the
>>>>>> GEs, i.e. moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage 1. We can try to create a
>>>>>> time plan jointly with you, but this will require a couple of coordination
>>>>>> meeting (can it be tomorrow at 9:30 with me and this Friday at 9:30 with
>>>>>> the rest of my team?), but in the meantime, and bearing in mind the way of
>>>>>> thinking that you have provoked on me saying that you do not intend to
>>>>>> integrate our GEs until the last stage of the demo (for the last month of
>>>>>> the project!!!), we need an explicit commitment from your side, without
>>>>>> which we can not agree on participating in this demo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *- You (Engineering) agree on moving the content of Stage 3 to
>>>>>> Stage 1 so that we can be sure that we will be part of the demo from the
>>>>>> very beginning (it makes no sense to think about demos inside the demo).
>>>>>> This implies that you will work from the very beginning on the creation of
>>>>>> new premium datasets from the existing datasets (so that we can create and
>>>>>> operate new data APIs and their related offerings from those premium
>>>>>> datasets), and on that you will work (probably starting on stage 2) on
>>>>>> performing analytics on the data we will provide about the use of APIs
>>>>>> being offered through the store (accounting, payments-per-use, revenue
>>>>>> sharings, etc. regarding the use of those premium data APIs).*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  (Please do not misinterpret the following bullets, they do not
>>>>>> intend to sow suspicion, but to anticipate possible problems that could
>>>>>> eventually arise as a consequence of a current lack of awareness)
>>>>>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the source code
>>>>>> and all the related documentation available for the demo on top of which
>>>>>> you have described the scenario for the Business demo. You also agree on
>>>>>> granting us access to a working installation of that demo, with full
>>>>>> privileges.
>>>>>> - You (Engineering) agree on sharing with us all the videos available
>>>>>> that can help us to understand the current demo, and a couple of demo
>>>>>> sessions to show us the demo and to explain the necessary details to allow
>>>>>> us to know where is the information, which datasets are available,
>>>>>> implemented functionality, etc.
>>>>>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the current
>>>>>> datasets available in the demo, and agree on releasing on time (i.e. during
>>>>>> the 1st stage) all the "anonymizing" code necessary for those datasets that
>>>>>> require such anonymization (this can be considered as a subtask of the
>>>>>> generation of premium datasets). Otherwise we could not use that data, nor
>>>>>> have access to any data indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  And, last but not least, we also have to discuss an additional
>>>>>> point: during the kickoff meeting we agreed on the need to integrate
>>>>>> Wirecloud with SpagoBI so that we could use Wirecloud as a tool to create
>>>>>> web dashboards from SpagoBI visualizations (and then ease their publication
>>>>>> in external web portals, etc.). This feature is very interesting for the
>>>>>> demo and it is my intention to plan it, but afaik you still have not
>>>>>> created any epic/feature in this regard. What are you planning in this
>>>>>> regard? We will be happy to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>>> Javier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi Javier
>>>>>>> I wrote a time plan for the Live Demo for what concerns SpagoBI:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Stage 1 (M13): the live demo will show Data Viz GE (SpagoBI)
>>>>>>> analytical capabilities as a stand-alone GE (i.e. without any connection
>>>>>>> with the other GEs), plus some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e.
>>>>>>> analyses built on top of the Data Portal GE (CKAN) and the Context Broker
>>>>>>> GE (Orion).*
>>>>>>> *Stage 2 (M18): we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) to be able to
>>>>>>> perform analyses on the Big Data Analysis GE (COSMOS).*
>>>>>>> *Stage 3 (M25): **we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI)** for
>>>>>>> performing data analytics on the use of the data being offered by the Store
>>>>>>> GE (WStore), plus the creation of "Premium" datasets.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't put it on the final document yet.
>>>>>>> Could you please send me some information for the planning of your
>>>>>>> contributions? Are you going to put all your GEs in place for the first
>>>>>>> release, and then add additional functionalities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>>>> Davide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Il 20/03/2015 10:05, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi all
>>>>>>> Ilknur asked me to define a time plan for the Business demo, and
>>>>>>> therefore I have to mix contributions from our colleagues working on
>>>>>>> FINESCE project, SpagoBI team contributions, and contribution from UPM.
>>>>>>> What do you foresee for live demos? do you foresee more releases? do
>>>>>>> you have any time plan in mind?
>>>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>>>> Davide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Davide Zerbetto*
>>>>>>> SpagoBI Consultant
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> SpagoBI Consultant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *SpagoBI Labs Engineering Group*
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>>>>>>
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