hi, Ok, from a managerial point of view it is best to have all the chapter on the same date so fine for us. I will not update the google doc or the backlog pages with note s saying "exception for Apps because blablabla..." - it would give ideas to the other chapters and we do not want to open this door! I CC Manuel, José Manuel & Javier as they are impacted by this in their work in one way or another. Regards, Miguel El 26/07/2016 a las 10:23, Alessandro Portosa escribió: Hi Miguel, yes I understand the situation and I really don't want to compromised all the others deadlines. I undestand that mixed situation is maybe the worst scenario, and I would not go for that. I would propose to postpone deadlines for all the Apps GEs, even if they not need more time. And at the end of August provide content for all the three GEs. With "slight" I meant like below: [cid:part1.84349552.FED430A6 at telefonica.com] Let us know if this is applicable for you, or if there are other feasible ways. Regards, Alessandro On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:36 AM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com<mailto:miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>> wrote: Dear Alessandro, The schedule cascades dates, it is not just the dates that you capture but the whole lot that maybe compromised by a change. In other words, if the open specs are late, presumable so will be the manuals, sw delivery etc. a month later. And although the project finishes in December, the development chapters come to halt in September. I fear that what you propose is a mixed situation where we review things when part of the development teams of the GEris are gone and others are still working. This could result in a managerial mess - or not, but let us see if the change can be qualified as "slight":). Can you please explain what the full proposal is? (for all the deadlines) Thanks, Miguel El 22/07/2016 a las 16:35, Alessandro Portosa escribió: Dear Miguel, in our last Apps weekly call, we discussed about the R5 deadline which we have to deal with for the next months. Most of them are very applicable and we believe there will be no worries on achive those targets, but we have some doubts on the ones below: [cid:part3.5E6D39A0.F43390BB at telefonica.com] As you know, in Apps chapter we have a new GE (BusinessAPIEcosystem). And most of its documentation and other related activites, has to be done from scratch. Also, people cannot work for the entire remaining period because of their holidays. About other GEs, I think we can handle it more easily, but I'm not sure if we can match this deadline at the whole chapter level. I'm not sure if it is possible to extend this, but I would ask to postpone these deadline at the end of August. I understand this could slightly change the deliverable master plan. Please let me know if this is applicable for you, and how. Many thanks, Alessandro On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:15 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com<mailto:miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>> wrote: Dear all, As you are aware, we are getting closer to Release 5 and although there are signs that things are moving, it is time to send a reminder particularly when the summer holidays are here. In R4 we needed to explore new ways to deliver results in a more modern and saleable format. This motivated changes on the way , and this is something that we want to avoid now. We are happy with the results and we will keep guidelines as stable as we can; this is why we will basically use the same instructions as last year: * https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wa15t2dSEucSA1xD7FyOLpP0ymihYYry0mhALV6GsXU(please re-read it, the changes are not major but there are some) Last year was the transition to a new way of working and we exceptionally admitted snapshots on github. As it was warned at the time (also mentioned in the guidelines), R5 was expected to be developed working on a day by day basis on github. We have prepared a list of high level deliverables with the deadlines and the associated guidelines in case it helps to understand what's needed at a glance: * https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I5UTqhUn86ForyAsk6BMOw6sK9iBkL_SARuE3DvwUss Manuel will keep his role of agile coach, José Manuel will continue as the owner of the software development guidelines and I will be delivering to the EC those deliverables not directly managed by Manuel. 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