From davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it Thu Nov 7 00:59:08 2013 From: davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it (Davide Dalle Carbonare) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:59:08 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <98B04587EEF94EF399D90AD77BAE8CC8@LAQUINTA> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> <526A7307.2010000@eng.it> <52726371.4060300@eng.it> <98B04587EEF94EF399D90AD77BAE8CC8@LAQUINTA> Message-ID: <527AD7CC.30604@eng.it> Dear Raul, thank you for your mail ... I've seen the news on LinkedIn with references for detailed information. I had the possibility to present the challenges at a conference in a couple of weeks from now, but unfortunately the deadline has passed ... I try to check if can do something anyway. I keep you informed. kind regards, Davide On 31/10/2013 16:20, Ra?l S?nchez wrote: > Dear all, > Today the first two of the four FI-WARE Challenges will be launched > through all our social media channels and and FI-WARE channels . Smart > Cities and Smart Business will be the first ones. You will receive > today all the info related to the Challenges. We hope that social > networks will be on fire after this huge launching. It is going to be > contest with the highest prizes ever launched... > We think that the success of this Challenges action it is a huge > opportunity to all the FI-WARE Consortium members to disseminate what > is FI-WARE and arouse the interest of developers about FI-WARE in all > the world. We are putting all of our best efforts to make it possible. > Amongs all the channels that we will use, the Consortium members could > play also an important role. We hope and we willl request from you all > of your support in this action. > Thanks in advance for your cooperation and I hope to see you in the > Final that it will take place in Campus Party Brasil in Sao Paulo from > January 26 to February 2nd. www. > *campus*-*party*.com.br > > > Best from Madrid and have a nice long weekend. > Ra?l S?nchez, PhD > *Ra?l S?nchez* > /Director/ > /Corporate & Government Affairs/ > Futura Networks & Campus Party > > www.campus-party.org > > Madrid, Spain > +34-659311383 > > /The information in this e-mail (including attachments) is > confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended > recipient, please immediately inform the sender and delete this e-mail > and any attachments. Futura Networks and Asociaci?n E3 Futura do their > part to protect our world: please consider the environment before > printing this message./ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* fiware-campusero-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu > [mailto:fiware-campusero-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *En nombre de > *Davide Dalle Carbonare > *Enviado el:* jueves, 31 de octubre de 2013 15:05 > *Para:* Esther Paniagua > *CC:* fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > *Asunto:* Re: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch > associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB > > Dear Esther, > sorry to push again on this ... it's important for me to know if > challenges have > been officially launched and relative details as far as I may have the > possibility > to present them at an event in few weeks from now. > > thank you and > kind regards, > Davide > > > On 25/10/2013 15:32, Davide Dalle Carbonare wrote: >> Dear Esther, >> first of all, thank you for the work you're doing. >> >> I would like to know if Smart Challenges have been officially >> launched in Santander and, >> if yes, if is it possible to update the page of FI-WARE web site >> reporting the details >> of these challenges. >> >> thak you, >> BR >> Davide >> >> On 14/10/2013 20:40, Esther Paniagua wrote: >>> Dear partners: >>> >>> Thanks to all of you for sharing your views about the challenges. I >>> understand them and I?d like to clarify the issue that Philipp is >>> mentioning regarding the amount of time that involves to create a >>> prototype ?only? to participate in a challenge. As it is not >>> something that is going to happen in the first phase -that consists >>> on a call for ideas- only the 20 candidates of each challenge that >>> pass to this next phase will have to develop such prototype. Then, >>> this 20 candidates will have real possibilities to win the prize to >>> finance their idea. >>> >>> We have no more time to spend because we need to take the final >>> decision. I attach a draft post with the information that would be >>> published to launch the first two prizes (Smart Cities an Smart >>> Business) that will be deeply defined in the registration page with >>> the instructions and the legal basis. Maybe the post is useful for >>> you to understand the idea better. Juanjo is working on the >>> technical specifications of each challenge too, so it will be for >>> help too. >>> >>> Attending to your worries, I suggest to include in the description >>> of eath challenge, as well as in the post, a mention about our aim >>> regarding the start-ups creation, in order to clarify our objective >>> and to define better the kind of projects that we look for (that is, >>> proposals that may have a real impact while being feasible). >>> >>> Please, send us additional comments before tomorrow evening. We'd >>> like to take the opportunity to launch the challenges during the >>> FI-WARE event in Santander this week, so we have to be very agile. >>> >>> Thanks for all in advance :) >>> >>> -- >>> Esther Paniagua >>> Coordinadora de Campus Labs >>> Futura Networks >>> >>> >>> 2013/10/6 stefano de panfilis >> > >>> >>> dear juanjo, >>> >>> i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the >>> approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call >>> for the >>> context. >>> >>> i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an >>> intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the >>> level of >>> attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this >>> should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context. >>> >>> ciao, >>> stefano >>> >>> 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro >: >>> > Dear Philipp, >>> > >>> > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run >>> at a Campus >>> > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. >>> We all >>> > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those >>> hackathons and we >>> > won't. >>> > >>> > However, what it will be launched this time is different. >>> It pretends to >>> > be something that implies funding a more complete development, >>> that's why it >>> > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an >>> intermediate >>> > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of >>> contestants who >>> > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final >>> (they are >>> > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have >>> developed at that >>> > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth >>> investing and continue >>> > the development because at least they will be able to showcase >>> their >>> > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help >>> them to gain >>> > some visibility for their application). >>> > >>> > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or >>> have >>> > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation >>> of FI-WARE >>> > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan >>> are welcome to >>> > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target >>> audience. >>> > >>> > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very >>> similar to >>> > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 >>> (Use Case >>> > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very >>> interesting >>> > lessons during the process. >>> > >>> > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the >>> > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in >>> London where >>> > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see >>> whether they could >>> > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that >>> some of them >>> > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup >>> ... and they >>> > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE >>> technologies >>> > could help them to catch some funding. >>> > >>> > Best regards, >>> > >>> > -- Juanjo >>> > >>> > ------------- >>> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> > website: www.tid.es >>> > email: jhierro at tid.es >>> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> > >>> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >>> > and Chief Architect >>> > >>> > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >>> > >>> > You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> > >>> > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big >>> review >>> > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. >>> > >>> > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting >>> developers >>> > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here >>> are my 2 >>> > cents worth. >>> > >>> > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups >>> developers who >>> > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or >>> hobbyists. Its >>> > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that >>> struggle >>> > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a >>> prototype >>> > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any >>> return on >>> > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, >>> better >>> > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. >>> were not >>> > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should >>> therefore not >>> > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid >>> > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context >>> and with >>> > the support of the FI-PPP. >>> > >>> > A special exception may be open source developers that work >>> for the >>> > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might >>> actually be a >>> > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the >>> whole thing >>> > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does >>> not hand out >>> > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest >>> ideas. >>> > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and >>> does not just >>> > hand over big sums of money. >>> > >>> > When we are targeting small developers through the >>> competitions then a >>> > price money of several tens of k? seems way too high. This are >>> likely >>> > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or >>> other business >>> > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more >>> than a >>> > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even >>> say that >>> > we should not even encourage such a development. >>> > >>> > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the >>> point here (I >>> > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have >>> heard and >>> > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long >>> discussions >>> > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but >>> the price >>> > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small >>> addition to >>> > our other activities targeting a very different audience >>> (students etc., >>> > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we >>> > specifically target different groups of serious developers >>> with very >>> > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. >>> > >>> > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still >>> change >>> > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe >>> taking into >>> > account to the degree still possible. >>> > >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > >>> > Philipp >>> > >>> > >>> > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: >>> > >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura >>> Networks. >>> > >>> > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of >>> the two >>> > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Dear Juanjo, >>> > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two >>> challenges, >>> > for the first round are fine. >>> > I wait for additional details especially regarding the >>> final phase >>> > at Campus Party. >>> > >>> > kind regards, >>> > Davide >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, >>> but let >>> > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to >>> approve >>> > this week. >>> > >>> > As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be >>> consumed >>> > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were >>> consumed >>> > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the >>> special >>> > awards were not given away). >>> > >>> > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which >>> will be >>> > run along a number of months. We would start launching two >>> > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and >>> another one >>> > focused on Smart Businesses. >>> > >>> > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would >>> > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. >>> Proposers >>> > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on >>> > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would >>> > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will >>> invite >>> > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the >>> Campus >>> > Party Brasil, early February 2014. >>> > >>> > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil >>> event will >>> > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: >>> > >>> > * 1st prize: 75 K? >>> > * 2nd prize: 40 K? >>> > * third prize: 20 K? >>> > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young >>> developer"): 5.000 >>> > ? each >>> > >>> > >>> > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the >>> second >>> > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the >>> Campus Party >>> > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July >>> 2014). A >>> > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim >>> > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the >>> travel >>> > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take >>> place. >>> > >>> > There are several options for this second round of >>> challenges, >>> > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too >>> appealing >>> > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as >>> "FI-WARE >>> > Excellence Awards" (with total 290K? in prizes) where >>> there would >>> > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and >>> focus would >>> > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of >>> > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find >>> another two >>> > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic >>> challenge and >>> > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with >>> 145 K? in >>> > prizes). >>> > >>> > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE >>> > Excellence Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your >>> feedback >>> > is welcome. >>> > >>> > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities >>> and Smart >>> > Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to >>> me and, >>> > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for >>> advertising >>> > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless >>> anyone >>> > has an objection. >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > -- Juanjo >>> > >>> > ------------- >>> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> > website: www.tid.es >>> > email: jhierro at tid.es >>> > >>> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> > >>> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >>> > and Chief Architect >>> > >>> > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >>> > >>> > You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> > facebook: >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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