From jhierro at tid.es Tue Oct 1 09:34:27 2013 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:34:27 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Launching challenges linked to FI-WARE to the Campusero Community Message-ID: <524A7B03.6040901@tid.es> Hi all, As announced during our weekly WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall, we have created the fiware-campusero mailing list. In a first approach, I have included all the FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, plus people from Futura Networks and Ogilvy (the team managing our presence in Social Networks) The mailing list will be mainly to drive discussion about messages to be delivered and activities to be placed in the Campusero Community. This includes, among other things, definition of the challenges with prizes we should launch this week. Stay tuned. Cheers, -- Juanjo -- ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Tue Oct 1 17:53:12 2013 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 17:53:12 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB Message-ID: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> Hi all, Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. As you know, there were aprox. 870 KEUR in prizes to be consumed until end of the proyect. Of these 870 KEUR, 17.500EUR were consumed in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 EUR of one of the special awards were not given away). The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run along a number of months. We would start launching two thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on Smart Businesses. The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will invite two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: * 1st prize: 75 KEUR * 2nd prize: 40 KEUR * third prize: 20 KEUR * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 EUR each During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. There are several options for this second round of challenges, we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" (with total 290KEUR in prizes) where there would not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would be given on finding the applications that make best usage of FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find another two thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 KEUR in prizes). Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" with total 290 KEUR in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart Businesses (with 145 KEUR in prizes each) look more clear to me and, since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has an objection. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it Tue Oct 1 23:32:14 2013 From: davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it (Davide Dalle Carbonare) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 23:32:14 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> Message-ID: <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> Dear Juanjo, the format sounds good to me, I think the first two challenges, for the first round are fine. I wait for additional details especially regarding the final phase at Campus Party. kind regards, Davide On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Hi all, > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me > briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 KEUR in prizes to be consumed > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 KEUR, 17.500EUR were consumed > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 EUR of one of the special > awards were not given away). > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run > along a number of months. We would start launching two thematic > challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on > Smart Businesses. > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a > deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany > their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be > given preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each > of the challenges and we will invite two people of each of the > selected teams to travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run > a final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > * 1st prize: 75 KEUR > * 2nd prize: 40 KEUR > * third prize: 20 KEUR > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 EUR > each > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, we > may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) > or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence > Awards" (with total 290KEUR in prizes) where there would not be > restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would be given > on finding the applications that make best usage of FI-WARE > technologies. Another possibility is to find another two thematic > challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and one "FI-WARE > Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 KEUR in prizes). > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence > Awards" with total 290 KEUR in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart > Businesses (with 145 KEUR in prizes each) look more clear to me and, > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has > an objection. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website:www.tid.es > email:jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede > consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico > en el enlace situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send > and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-campusero mailing list > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esther.paniagua at futuranetworks.com Wed Oct 2 00:06:36 2013 From: esther.paniagua at futuranetworks.com (Esther Paniagua) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 00:06:36 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> Message-ID: Hi all, I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of the two first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. Thanks! 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > Dear Juanjo, > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two challenges, for > the first round are fine. > I wait for additional details especially regarding the final phase at > Campus Party. > > kind regards, > Davide > > > > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > > Hi all, > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me > briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed until end > of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed in Campus Party > Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special awards were not given away). > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run along > a number of months. We would start launching two thematic challenges, one > focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on Smart Businesses. > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a > deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany > their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be given > preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each of the > challenges and we will invite two people of each of the selected teams to > travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run a > final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > - 1st prize: 75 K? > - 2nd prize: 40 K? > - third prize: 20 K? > - two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 ? each > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second round of > challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party Europe (most > likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A similar schema would > be followed. We would define an interim milestone to select the 40 best > proposals and pay them the travel expenses to Campus Party Europe where a > final would take place. > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, we may go > for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) or we may go > for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" (with total > 290K? in prizes) where there would not be restriction about the theme to be > addressed and focus would be given on finding the applications that make > best usage of FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find > another two thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge > and one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in > prizes). > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence > Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart > Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, since we > are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising them at the > Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has an objection. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > ------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Name: FI-WARE_Smart_Challenges_Post.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 400971 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Wed Oct 2 11:18:25 2013 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:18:25 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo, to me is not completely clear, although you say so, the difference between smart cities and smart business. what is smart business: making applications with high business impact? what i mean is that the second should be the ultimate goal also for the first and for the overall challange you have in mind for the last contest, i.e. all the solutions proposed should have a good, i'd rather say the best possible, usage of fi-ware technologies and also good marketability proposing high innovative solutions. so if this is correct, i think for the first contest we have just one topic. for the second i'd like to propose and this for young people could be really interesting applications for ageing people. this is one of the most social challenge we are going to face in the next coming years and the eyes of the fi-ware community on this topic would be seen as a strong signal of being from us in line with the current needs of the worl population. i think also an eye should be put on environment and society. my two cents. ciao, stefano 2013/10/1 Juanjo Hierro > Hi all, > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me > briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed until end > of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed in Campus Party > Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special awards were not given away). > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run along > a number of months. We would start launching two thematic challenges, one > focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on Smart Businesses. > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a > deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany > their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be given > preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each of the > challenges and we will invite two people of each of the selected teams to > travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run a > final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > - 1st prize: 75 K? > - 2nd prize: 40 K? > - third prize: 20 K? > - two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 ? each > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second round of > challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party Europe (most > likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A similar schema would > be followed. We would define an interim milestone to select the 40 best > proposals and pay them the travel expenses to Campus Party Europe where a > final would take place. > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, we may go > for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) or we may go > for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" (with total > 290K? in prizes) where there would not be restriction about the theme to be > addressed and focus would be given on finding the applications that make > best usage of FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find > another two thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge > and one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in > prizes). > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence > Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart > Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, since we > are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising them at the > Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has an objection. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > ------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From esther.paniagua at futuranetworks.com Wed Oct 2 14:51:54 2013 From: esther.paniagua at futuranetworks.com (Esther Paniagua) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:51:54 -0500 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> Message-ID: I think Stefano is right. In fact, from the beginning, our idea (from the side of Futura) for the second phase have been to organize a third challenge, more social, as "Smart Society" or "Smart for a better society" :) 2013/10/2 stefano de panfilis > dear juanjo, > > to me is not completely clear, although you say so, the difference between > smart cities and smart business. > what is smart business: making applications with high business impact? > what i mean is that the second should be the ultimate goal also for the > first and for the overall challange you have in mind for the last contest, > i.e. all the solutions proposed should have a good, i'd rather say the best > possible, usage of fi-ware technologies and also good marketability > proposing high innovative solutions. > > so if this is correct, i think for the first contest we have just one > topic. > > for the second i'd like to propose and this for young people could be > really interesting applications for ageing people. this is one of the most > social challenge we are going to face in the next coming years and the eyes > of the fi-ware community on this topic would be seen as a strong signal of > being from us in line with the current needs of the worl population. > > i think also an eye should be put on environment and society. > > my two cents. > > ciao, > stefano > > > > > > > > > 2013/10/1 Juanjo Hierro > >> Hi all, >> >> Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me >> briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. >> >> As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed until >> end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed in Campus >> Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special awards were not given >> away). >> >> The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run >> along a number of months. We would start launching two thematic >> challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on Smart >> Businesses. >> >> The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a >> deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany >> their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be given >> preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each of the >> challenges and we will invite two people of each of the selected teams to >> travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. >> >> The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run a >> final there so that the final prizes are given away: >> >> - 1st prize: 75 K? >> - 2nd prize: 40 K? >> - third prize: 20 K? >> - two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 ? >> each >> >> >> During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second round >> of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party Europe (most >> likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A similar schema would >> be followed. We would define an interim milestone to select the 40 best >> proposals and pay them the travel expenses to Campus Party Europe where a >> final would take place. >> >> There are several options for this second round of challenges, we may >> go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) or we may >> go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" (with >> total 290K? in prizes) where there would not be restriction about the theme >> to be addressed and focus would be given on finding the applications that >> make best usage of FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find >> another two thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge >> and one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in >> prizes). >> >> Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence >> Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. >> >> The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart >> Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, since we >> are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising them at the >> Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has an objection. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >> and Chief Architect >> >> FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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We only send and >> receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: >> http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-campusero mailing list >> Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero >> >> > > > -- > Stefano De Panfilis > Chief Innovation Officer > Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. > via Riccardo Morandi 32 > 00148 Roma > Italy > > tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 > tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 > fax: +39-068307-4200 > cell: +39-335-7542-567 > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-campusero mailing list > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > -- Esther Paniagua Coordinadora de Campus Labs Futura Networks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Sun Oct 6 12:00:16 2013 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:00:16 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> Message-ID: <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> Dear Philipp, What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at a Campus Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. We all agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those hackathons and we won't. However, what it will be launched this time is different. It pretends to be something that implies funding a more complete development, that's why it lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an intermediate milestone that will help to perform a first selection of contestants who will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final (they are expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have developed at that time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing and continue the development because at least they will be able to showcase their application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help them to gain some visibility for their application). Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation of FI-WARE technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are welcome to participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target audience. To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very similar to what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 (Use Case Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very interesting lessons during the process. Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in London where simply students or people who just wanted to play and see whether they could win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that some of them are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup ... and they expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE technologies could help them to catch some funding. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: Hi, Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big review last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting developers and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here are my 2 cents worth. Competitions are only attractive to really small groups developers who can work on this in their spare time, such as students or hobbyists. Its not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that struggle to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a prototype for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any return on the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, better stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. were not founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should therefore not be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid business idea to more successfully execute it in the context and with the support of the FI-PPP. A special exception may be open source developers that work for the "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually be a good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole thing should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not hand out price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest ideas. This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does not just hand over big sums of money. When we are targeting small developers through the competitions then a price money of several tens of k? seems way too high. This are likely not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other business idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even say that we should not even encourage such a development. Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point here (I was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have heard and is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long discussions about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but the price money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small addition to our other activities targeting a very different audience (students etc., see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we specifically target different groups of serious developers with very different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe taking into account to the degree still possible. Best, Philipp Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: Hi all, I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of the two first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. Thanks! 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > Dear Juanjo, the format sounds good to me, I think the first two challenges, for the first round are fine. I wait for additional details especially regarding the final phase at Campus Party. kind regards, Davide On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Hi all, Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed until end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special awards were not given away). The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run along a number of months. We would start launching two thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on Smart Businesses. The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will invite two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: * 1st prize: 75 K? * 2nd prize: 40 K? * third prize: 20 K? * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 ? each During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. There are several options for this second round of challenges, we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" (with total 290K? in prizes) where there would not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would be given on finding the applications that make best usage of FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find another two thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in prizes). Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has an objection. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Sun Oct 6 13:17:22 2013 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:17:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo, i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call for the context. i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the level of attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context. ciao, stefano 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro : > Dear Philipp, > > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at a Campus > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. We all > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those hackathons and we > won't. > > However, what it will be launched this time is different. It pretends to > be something that implies funding a more complete development, that's why it > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an intermediate > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of contestants who > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final (they are > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have developed at that > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing and continue > the development because at least they will be able to showcase their > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help them to gain > some visibility for their application). > > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation of FI-WARE > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are welcome to > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target audience. > > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very similar to > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 (Use Case > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very interesting > lessons during the process. > > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in London where > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see whether they could > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that some of them > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup ... and they > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE technologies > could help them to catch some funding. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big review > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. > > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting developers > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here are my 2 > cents worth. > > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups developers who > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or hobbyists. Its > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that struggle > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a prototype > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any return on > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, better > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. were not > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should therefore not > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context and with > the support of the FI-PPP. > > A special exception may be open source developers that work for the > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually be a > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole thing > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not hand out > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest ideas. > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does not just > hand over big sums of money. > > When we are targeting small developers through the competitions then a > price money of several tens of k? seems way too high. This are likely > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other business > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even say that > we should not even encourage such a development. > > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point here (I > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have heard and > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long discussions > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but the price > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small addition to > our other activities targeting a very different audience (students etc., > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we > specifically target different groups of serious developers with very > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. > > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe taking into > account to the degree still possible. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: > > Hi all, > > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. > > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of the two > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. > > Thanks! > > > > > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > > > Dear Juanjo, > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two challenges, > for the first round are fine. > I wait for additional details especially regarding the final phase > at Campus Party. > > kind regards, > Davide > > > > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > > Hi all, > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve > this week. > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special > awards were not given away). > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be > run along a number of months. We would start launching two > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one > focused on Smart Businesses. > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will invite > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus > Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > * 1st prize: 75 K? > * 2nd prize: 40 K? > * third prize: 20 K? > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 > ? each > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE > Excellence Awards" (with total 290K? in prizes) where there would > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find another two > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in > prizes). > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE > Excellence Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback > is welcome. > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart > Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone > has an objection. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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We only > send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-campusero mailing list > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-campusero mailing list > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > > > > -- > Esther Paniagua > Coordinadora de Campus Labs > Futura Networks > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-campusero mailing list > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-campusero mailing list > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 From jhierro at tid.es Mon Oct 7 00:16:03 2013 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 00:16:03 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> Message-ID: <5251E123.5020408@tid.es> On 02/10/13 11:18, stefano de panfilis wrote: dear juanjo, to me is not completely clear, although you say so, the difference between smart cities and smart business. what is smart business: making applications with high business impact? The challenge looking for Smart business applications would have to do with applications that would help companies, with special emphasize to SMEs, to run their businesses. Operation of businesses are called to change based on applications that what i mean is that the second should be the ultimate goal also for the first and for the overall challange you have in mind for the last contest, i.e. all the solutions proposed should have a good, i'd rather say the best possible, usage of fi-ware technologies and also good marketability proposing high innovative solutions. so if this is correct, i think for the first contest we have just one topic. As explained, the scope of applications targeted to Smart Cities is radically different than applications targeted to support Smart Businesses. We should add examples which may help to clarify the scope of each challenge in the posts where we will announce them. Also referring to Smart Business/Industry may be helpful. Of course, as you say, applications targeted to both challenges will be evaluated taking into consideration their potential impact. I haven't heard about any objection from the rest of people, who seem to have understood the original intention, so unless we heard about other issues on your side, we should keep going and publish the two challenges that would be part of the first round of challenges. for the second i'd like to propose and this for young people could be really interesting applications for ageing people. this is one of the most social challenge we are going to face in the next coming years and the eyes of the fi-ware community on this topic would be seen as a strong signal of being from us in line with the current needs of the worl population. i think also an eye should be put on environment and society. Issue is that we need to address how to spend the 290 K? of prizes allocated to the second round of challenges. I don't have a clear opinion on this matter, although I see the following points: 1. Societal applications seem to be a good candidate (although with doubtful chances to find SMEs aiming to work on them because it is hard to find business cases, I'm afraid). 2. Once winners of the first round of challenges (Applications for Smart Cities and Smart Businesses) have been decided, it's a pity that we don't give them the change to continue evolving their application until Campus Party Europe (assuming it take place in July). The launch of "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" where a chance to keep them working aiming at winning these awards. 3. If we defer launch of the challenge on Societal applications until end of the year, then we are giving potential contestants of that challenge less chances to win the "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" than contestants to challenges in the first round of challenges 4. On the other hand, launching the three challenges now, would mean "spending all the ammunition" right now regarding calls, instead of distributing them along the time Futura Network proposes to launch a second round of two challenges one of which would be on searching for a Societal Application, while the other one would be given away to proposals who are excellent regarding usage of FI-WARE technologies. Because of point 3 above, I'm not so convincing. Based on 1, 2 and 3, I tend to believe that the best choice would be to launch all the three thematic challenges (Smart Cities, Smart Business/Industry, Smart Society ...) right now, maybe with a difference of a week per each, and then go for a selection of winners at the end of Campus Party Europe but then make a final call for a challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence" where winners of the three different challenges would be invited to participate (therefore having potentially the change to increase their funding). However, as I have said, I don't have a strong opinion and I would hear others' As Nuria mentioned, don't let discussion on the challenges in the second round of challenges (to be launched end of this year) or even the launch now of a third thematic challenge block the launch of the two challenges we had identified on Smart Cities and Smart Businesses/Industry. Feedback of all of you is greatly appreciated. Cheers, -- Juanjo my two cents. ciao, stefano 2013/10/1 Juanjo Hierro > Hi all, Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve this week. As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed until end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special awards were not given away). The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be run along a number of months. We would start launching two thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one focused on Smart Businesses. The two challenges would be launched this week and we would define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will invite two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus Party Brasil, early February 2014. The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: * 1st prize: 75 K? * 2nd prize: 40 K? * third prize: 20 K? * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 ? each During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. There are several options for this second round of challenges, we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" (with total 290K? in prizes) where there would not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would be given on finding the applications that make best usage of FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find another two thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in prizes). Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE Excellence Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback is welcome. The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone has an objection. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _______________________________________________ Fiware-campusero mailing list Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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As it is not something that is going to happen in the first phase -that consists on a call for ideas- only the 20 candidates of each challenge that pass to this next phase will have to develop such prototype. Then, this 20 candidates will have real possibilities to win the prize to finance their idea. We have no more time to spend because we need to take the final decision. I attach a draft post with the information that would be published to launch the first two prizes (Smart Cities an Smart Business) that will be deeply defined in the registration page with the instructions and the legal basis. Maybe the post is useful for you to understand the idea better. Juanjo is working on the technical specifications of each challenge too, so it will be for help too. Attending to your worries, I suggest to include in the description of eath challenge, as well as in the post, a mention about our aim regarding the start-ups creation, in order to clarify our objective and to define better the kind of projects that we look for (that is, proposals that may have a real impact while being feasible). Please, send us additional comments before tomorrow evening. We'd like to take the opportunity to launch the challenges during the FI-WARE event in Santander this week, so we have to be very agile. Thanks for all in advance :) -- Esther Paniagua Coordinadora de Campus Labs Futura Networks 2013/10/6 stefano de panfilis > dear juanjo, > > i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the > approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call for the > context. > > i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an > intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the level of > attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this > should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context. > > ciao, > stefano > > 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro : > > Dear Philipp, > > > > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at a Campus > > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. We all > > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those hackathons and we > > won't. > > > > However, what it will be launched this time is different. It > pretends to > > be something that implies funding a more complete development, that's > why it > > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an > intermediate > > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of contestants who > > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final (they are > > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have developed at that > > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing and > continue > > the development because at least they will be able to showcase their > > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help them to gain > > some visibility for their application). > > > > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have > > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation of FI-WARE > > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are welcome > to > > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target audience. > > > > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very similar to > > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 (Use Case > > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very interesting > > lessons during the process. > > > > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the > > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in London where > > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see whether they > could > > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that some of > them > > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup ... and > they > > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE technologies > > could help them to catch some funding. > > > > Best regards, > > > > -- Juanjo > > > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > > and Chief Architect > > > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big review > > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. > > > > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting developers > > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here are my 2 > > cents worth. > > > > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups developers who > > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or hobbyists. Its > > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that struggle > > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a prototype > > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any return on > > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, better > > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. were not > > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should therefore not > > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid > > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context and with > > the support of the FI-PPP. > > > > A special exception may be open source developers that work for the > > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually be a > > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole thing > > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not hand out > > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest ideas. > > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does not just > > hand over big sums of money. > > > > When we are targeting small developers through the competitions then a > > price money of several tens of k? seems way too high. This are likely > > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other business > > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a > > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even say that > > we should not even encourage such a development. > > > > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point here (I > > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have heard and > > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long discussions > > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but the price > > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small addition to > > our other activities targeting a very different audience (students etc., > > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we > > specifically target different groups of serious developers with very > > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. > > > > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change > > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe taking into > > account to the degree still possible. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Philipp > > > > > > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. > > > > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of the two > > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > > > > > > Dear Juanjo, > > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two challenges, > > for the first round are fine. > > I wait for additional details especially regarding the final phase > > at Campus Party. > > > > kind regards, > > Davide > > > > > > > > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let > > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve > > this week. > > > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed > > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed > > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special > > awards were not given away). > > > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be > > run along a number of months. We would start launching two > > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one > > focused on Smart Businesses. > > > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would > > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers > > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on > > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would > > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will invite > > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus > > Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will > > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > > > * 1st prize: 75 K? > > * 2nd prize: 40 K? > > * third prize: 20 K? > > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 > > ? each > > > > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second > > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party > > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A > > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim > > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel > > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. > > > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, > > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing > > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE > > Excellence Awards" (with total 290K? in prizes) where there would > > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would > > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of > > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find another two > > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and > > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in > > prizes). > > > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE > > Excellence Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback > > is welcome. > > > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart > > Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, > > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising > > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone > > has an objection. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- Juanjo > > > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > > and Chief Architect > > > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Name: FI-WARE_Smart_Challenges_Post.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 400971 bytes Desc: not available URL: From davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it Fri Oct 25 15:32:55 2013 From: davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it (Davide Dalle Carbonare) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:32:55 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> Message-ID: <526A7307.2010000@eng.it> Dear Esther, first of all, thank you for the work you're doing. I would like to know if Smart Challenges have been officially launched in Santander and, if yes, if is it possible to update the page of FI-WARE web site reporting the details of these challenges. thak you, BR Davide On 14/10/2013 20:40, Esther Paniagua wrote: > Dear partners: > > Thanks to all of you for sharing your views about the challenges. I > understand them and I'd like to clarify the issue that Philipp is > mentioning regarding the amount of time that involves to create a > prototype "only" to participate in a challenge. As it is not something > that is going to happen in the first phase -that consists on a call > for ideas- only the 20 candidates of each challenge that pass to this > next phase will have to develop such prototype. Then, this 20 > candidates will have real possibilities to win the prize to finance > their idea. > > We have no more time to spend because we need to take the final > decision. I attach a draft post with the information that would be > published to launch the first two prizes (Smart Cities an Smart > Business) that will be deeply defined in the registration page with > the instructions and the legal basis. Maybe the post is useful for you > to understand the idea better. Juanjo is working on the technical > specifications of each challenge too, so it will be for help too. > > Attending to your worries, I suggest to include in the description of > eath challenge, as well as in the post, a mention about our aim > regarding the start-ups creation, in order to clarify our objective > and to define better the kind of projects that we look for (that is, > proposals that may have a real impact while being feasible). > > Please, send us additional comments before tomorrow evening. We'd like > to take the opportunity to launch the challenges during the FI-WARE > event in Santander this week, so we have to be very agile. > > Thanks for all in advance :) > > -- > Esther Paniagua > Coordinadora de Campus Labs > Futura Networks > > > 2013/10/6 stefano de panfilis > > > dear juanjo, > > i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the > approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call for the > context. > > i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an > intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the level of > attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this > should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context. > > ciao, > stefano > > 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro >: > > Dear Philipp, > > > > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at > a Campus > > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. > We all > > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those > hackathons and we > > won't. > > > > However, what it will be launched this time is different. It > pretends to > > be something that implies funding a more complete development, > that's why it > > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an > intermediate > > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of > contestants who > > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final > (they are > > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have developed > at that > > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing > and continue > > the development because at least they will be able to showcase their > > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help them > to gain > > some visibility for their application). > > > > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have > > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation > of FI-WARE > > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are > welcome to > > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target > audience. > > > > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very > similar to > > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 > (Use Case > > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very > interesting > > lessons during the process. > > > > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the > > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in > London where > > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see > whether they could > > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that > some of them > > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup > ... and they > > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE > technologies > > could help them to catch some funding. > > > > Best regards, > > > > -- Juanjo > > > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > > and Chief Architect > > > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big review > > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. > > > > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting > developers > > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here > are my 2 > > cents worth. > > > > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups > developers who > > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or > hobbyists. Its > > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that > struggle > > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a > prototype > > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any > return on > > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, better > > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. > were not > > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should > therefore not > > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid > > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context and > with > > the support of the FI-PPP. > > > > A special exception may be open source developers that work for the > > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually be a > > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole > thing > > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not > hand out > > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest ideas. > > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does > not just > > hand over big sums of money. > > > > When we are targeting small developers through the competitions > then a > > price money of several tens of kEUR seems way too high. This are > likely > > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other > business > > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a > > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even > say that > > we should not even encourage such a development. > > > > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point > here (I > > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have > heard and > > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long discussions > > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but > the price > > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small > addition to > > our other activities targeting a very different audience > (students etc., > > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we > > specifically target different groups of serious developers with very > > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. > > > > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change > > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe > taking into > > account to the degree still possible. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Philipp > > > > > > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. > > > > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of > the two > > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > > >> > > > > Dear Juanjo, > > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two > challenges, > > for the first round are fine. > > I wait for additional details especially regarding the final > phase > > at Campus Party. > > > > kind regards, > > Davide > > > > > > > > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, > but let > > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to > approve > > this week. > > > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 KEUR in prizes to be > consumed > > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 KEUR, 17.500EUR > were consumed > > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 EUR of one of the > special > > awards were not given away). > > > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be > > run along a number of months. We would start launching two > > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one > > focused on Smart Businesses. > > > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would > > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. > Proposers > > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on > > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would > > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will > invite > > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus > > Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event > will > > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > > > * 1st prize: 75 KEUR > > * 2nd prize: 40 KEUR > > * third prize: 20 KEUR > > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): > 5.000 > > EUR each > > > > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the > second > > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus > Party > > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July > 2014). A > > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim > > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the > travel > > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. > > > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, > > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing > > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as > "FI-WARE > > Excellence Awards" (with total 290KEUR in prizes) where > there would > > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus > would > > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of > > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find > another two > > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and > > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 > KEUR in > > prizes). > > > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE > > Excellence Awards" with total 290 KEUR in prizes, but your > feedback > > is welcome. > > > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and > Smart > > Businesses (with 145 KEUR in prizes each) look more clear to > me and, > > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for > advertising > > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless > anyone > > has an objection. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- Juanjo > > > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > > and Chief Architect > > > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede > > consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo > > electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. > > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only > > send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fiware-campusero mailing list > > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fiware-campusero mailing list > > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Esther Paniagua > > Coordinadora de Campus Labs > > Futura Networks > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fiware-campusero mailing list > > Fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-campusero > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it Thu Oct 31 15:04:33 2013 From: davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it (Davide Dalle Carbonare) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:04:33 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <526A7307.2010000@eng.it> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> <526A7307.2010000@eng.it> Message-ID: <52726371.4060300@eng.it> Dear Esther, sorry to push again on this ... it's important for me to know if challenges have been officially launched and relative details as far as I may have the possibility to present them at an event in few weeks from now. thank you and kind regards, Davide On 25/10/2013 15:32, Davide Dalle Carbonare wrote: > Dear Esther, > first of all, thank you for the work you're doing. > > I would like to know if Smart Challenges have been officially launched > in Santander and, > if yes, if is it possible to update the page of FI-WARE web site > reporting the details > of these challenges. > > thak you, > BR > Davide > > On 14/10/2013 20:40, Esther Paniagua wrote: >> Dear partners: >> >> Thanks to all of you for sharing your views about the challenges. I >> understand them and I'd like to clarify the issue that Philipp is >> mentioning regarding the amount of time that involves to create a >> prototype "only" to participate in a challenge. As it is not >> something that is going to happen in the first phase -that consists >> on a call for ideas- only the 20 candidates of each challenge that >> pass to this next phase will have to develop such prototype. Then, >> this 20 candidates will have real possibilities to win the prize to >> finance their idea. >> >> We have no more time to spend because we need to take the final >> decision. I attach a draft post with the information that would be >> published to launch the first two prizes (Smart Cities an Smart >> Business) that will be deeply defined in the registration page with >> the instructions and the legal basis. Maybe the post is useful for >> you to understand the idea better. Juanjo is working on the technical >> specifications of each challenge too, so it will be for help too. >> >> Attending to your worries, I suggest to include in the description of >> eath challenge, as well as in the post, a mention about our aim >> regarding the start-ups creation, in order to clarify our objective >> and to define better the kind of projects that we look for (that is, >> proposals that may have a real impact while being feasible). >> >> Please, send us additional comments before tomorrow evening. We'd >> like to take the opportunity to launch the challenges during the >> FI-WARE event in Santander this week, so we have to be very agile. >> >> Thanks for all in advance :) >> >> -- >> Esther Paniagua >> Coordinadora de Campus Labs >> Futura Networks >> >> >> 2013/10/6 stefano de panfilis > > >> >> dear juanjo, >> >> i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the >> approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call >> for the >> context. >> >> i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an >> intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the >> level of >> attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this >> should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context. >> >> ciao, >> stefano >> >> 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro >: >> > Dear Philipp, >> > >> > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at >> a Campus >> > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. >> We all >> > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those >> hackathons and we >> > won't. >> > >> > However, what it will be launched this time is different. >> It pretends to >> > be something that implies funding a more complete development, >> that's why it >> > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an >> intermediate >> > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of >> contestants who >> > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final >> (they are >> > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have >> developed at that >> > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing >> and continue >> > the development because at least they will be able to showcase >> their >> > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help >> them to gain >> > some visibility for their application). >> > >> > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have >> > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation >> of FI-WARE >> > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are >> welcome to >> > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target >> audience. >> > >> > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very >> similar to >> > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 >> (Use Case >> > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very >> interesting >> > lessons during the process. >> > >> > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the >> > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in >> London where >> > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see >> whether they could >> > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that >> some of them >> > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup >> ... and they >> > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE >> technologies >> > could help them to catch some funding. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > -- Juanjo >> > >> > ------------- >> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> > website: www.tid.es >> > email: jhierro at tid.es >> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> > >> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >> > and Chief Architect >> > >> > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >> > >> > You can follow FI-WARE at: >> > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> > >> > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big >> review >> > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. >> > >> > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting >> developers >> > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here >> are my 2 >> > cents worth. >> > >> > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups >> developers who >> > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or >> hobbyists. Its >> > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that >> struggle >> > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a >> prototype >> > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any >> return on >> > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, >> better >> > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. >> were not >> > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should >> therefore not >> > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid >> > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context >> and with >> > the support of the FI-PPP. >> > >> > A special exception may be open source developers that work for the >> > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually >> be a >> > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole >> thing >> > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not >> hand out >> > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest >> ideas. >> > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does >> not just >> > hand over big sums of money. >> > >> > When we are targeting small developers through the competitions >> then a >> > price money of several tens of kEUR seems way too high. This >> are likely >> > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other >> business >> > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a >> > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even >> say that >> > we should not even encourage such a development. >> > >> > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point >> here (I >> > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have >> heard and >> > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long >> discussions >> > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but >> the price >> > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small >> addition to >> > our other activities targeting a very different audience >> (students etc., >> > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we >> > specifically target different groups of serious developers with >> very >> > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. >> > >> > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change >> > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe >> taking into >> > account to the degree still possible. >> > >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Philipp >> > >> > >> > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. >> > >> > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of >> the two >> > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > >> > > >> >> > >> > Dear Juanjo, >> > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two >> challenges, >> > for the first round are fine. >> > I wait for additional details especially regarding the >> final phase >> > at Campus Party. >> > >> > kind regards, >> > Davide >> > >> > >> > >> > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, >> but let >> > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to >> approve >> > this week. >> > >> > As you know, there were aprox. 870 KEUR in prizes to be >> consumed >> > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 KEUR, 17.500EUR >> were consumed >> > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 EUR of one of the >> special >> > awards were not given away). >> > >> > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which >> will be >> > run along a number of months. We would start launching two >> > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and >> another one >> > focused on Smart Businesses. >> > >> > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would >> > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. >> Proposers >> > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on >> > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would >> > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will >> invite >> > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the >> Campus >> > Party Brasil, early February 2014. >> > >> > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil >> event will >> > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: >> > >> > * 1st prize: 75 KEUR >> > * 2nd prize: 40 KEUR >> > * third prize: 20 KEUR >> > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young >> developer"): 5.000 >> > EUR each >> > >> > >> > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the >> second >> > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the >> Campus Party >> > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July >> 2014). A >> > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim >> > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the >> travel >> > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. >> > >> > There are several options for this second round of >> challenges, >> > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing >> > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as >> "FI-WARE >> > Excellence Awards" (with total 290KEUR in prizes) where >> there would >> > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and >> focus would >> > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of >> > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find >> another two >> > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic >> challenge and >> > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with >> 145 KEUR in >> > prizes). >> > >> > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE >> > Excellence Awards" with total 290 KEUR in prizes, but your >> feedback >> > is welcome. >> > >> > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities >> and Smart >> > Businesses (with 145 KEUR in prizes each) look more clear >> to me and, >> > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for >> advertising >> > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless >> anyone >> > has an objection. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > -- Juanjo >> > >> > ------------- >> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> > website: www.tid.es >> > email: jhierro at tid.es >> > >> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> > >> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >> > and Chief Architect >> > >> > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >> > >> > You can follow FI-WARE at: >> > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> > facebook: >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From raul.sanchez at futuranetworks.com Thu Oct 31 16:20:08 2013 From: raul.sanchez at futuranetworks.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ra=C3=BAl_S=C3=A1nchez?=) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:20:08 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB In-Reply-To: <52726371.4060300@eng.it> References: <524AEFE8.50008@tid.es> <524B3F5E.3060507@eng.it> <525129EE.4060401@dfki.de> <525134B0.5020604@tid.es> <526A7307.2010000@eng.it> <52726371.4060300@eng.it> Message-ID: <98B04587EEF94EF399D90AD77BAE8CC8@LAQUINTA> Dear all, Today the first two of the four FI-WARE Challenges will be launched through all our social media channels and and FI-WARE channels . Smart Cities and Smart Business will be the first ones. You will receive today all the info related to the Challenges. We hope that social networks will be on fire after this huge launching. It is going to be contest with the highest prizes ever launched... We think that the success of this Challenges action it is a huge opportunity to all the FI-WARE Consortium members to disseminate what is FI-WARE and arouse the interest of developers about FI-WARE in all the world. We are putting all of our best efforts to make it possible. Amongs all the channels that we will use, the Consortium members could play also an important role. We hope and we willl request from you all of your support in this action. Thanks in advance for your cooperation and I hope to see you in the Final that it will take place in Campus Party Brasil in Sao Paulo from January 26 to February 2nd. www. campus-party.com.br Best from Madrid and have a nice long weekend. Ra?l S?nchez, PhD Ra?l S?nchez Director Corporate & Government Affairs Futura Networks & Campus Party www.campus-party.org Madrid, Spain +34-659311383 The information in this e-mail (including attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and delete this e-mail and any attachments. Futura Networks and Asociaci?n E3 Futura do their part to protect our world: please consider the environment before printing this message. _____ De: fiware-campusero-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-campusero-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] En nombre de Davide Dalle Carbonare Enviado el: jueves, 31 de octubre de 2013 15:05 Para: Esther Paniagua CC: fiware-campusero at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Re: [Fiware-campusero] Proposal on challenges to be launch associated to FI-WARE/FI-LAB Dear Esther, sorry to push again on this ... it's important for me to know if challenges have been officially launched and relative details as far as I may have the possibility to present them at an event in few weeks from now. thank you and kind regards, Davide On 25/10/2013 15:32, Davide Dalle Carbonare wrote: Dear Esther, first of all, thank you for the work you're doing. I would like to know if Smart Challenges have been officially launched in Santander and, if yes, if is it possible to update the page of FI-WARE web site reporting the details of these challenges. thak you, BR Davide On 14/10/2013 20:40, Esther Paniagua wrote: Dear partners: Thanks to all of you for sharing your views about the challenges. I understand them and I?d like to clarify the issue that Philipp is mentioning regarding the amount of time that involves to create a prototype ?only? to participate in a challenge. As it is not something that is going to happen in the first phase -that consists on a call for ideas- only the 20 candidates of each challenge that pass to this next phase will have to develop such prototype. Then, this 20 candidates will have real possibilities to win the prize to finance their idea. We have no more time to spend because we need to take the final decision. I attach a draft post with the information that would be published to launch the first two prizes (Smart Cities an Smart Business) that will be deeply defined in the registration page with the instructions and the legal basis. Maybe the post is useful for you to understand the idea better. Juanjo is working on the technical specifications of each challenge too, so it will be for help too. Attending to your worries, I suggest to include in the description of eath challenge, as well as in the post, a mention about our aim regarding the start-ups creation, in order to clarify our objective and to define better the kind of projects that we look for (that is, proposals that may have a real impact while being feasible). Please, send us additional comments before tomorrow evening. We'd like to take the opportunity to launch the challenges during the FI-WARE event in Santander this week, so we have to be very agile. Thanks for all in advance :) -- Esther Paniagua Coordinadora de Campus Labs Futura Networks 2013/10/6 stefano de panfilis dear juanjo, i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call for the context. i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the level of attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context. ciao, stefano 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro : > Dear Philipp, > > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at a Campus > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event. We all > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those hackathons and we > won't. > > However, what it will be launched this time is different. It pretends to > be something that implies funding a more complete development, that's why it > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an intermediate > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of contestants who > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final (they are > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have developed at that > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing and continue > the development because at least they will be able to showcase their > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help them to gain > some visibility for their application). > > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation of FI-WARE > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are welcome to > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target audience. > > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very similar to > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3 (Use Case > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very interesting > lessons during the process. > > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in London where > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see whether they could > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that some of them > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup ... and they > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE technologies > could help them to catch some funding. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big review > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday. > > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting developers > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here are my 2 > cents worth. > > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups developers who > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or hobbyists. Its > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that struggle > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a prototype > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any return on > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea, better > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc. were not > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should therefore not > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context and with > the support of the FI-PPP. > > A special exception may be open source developers that work for the > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually be a > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole thing > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not hand out > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest ideas. > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does not just > hand over big sums of money. > > When we are targeting small developers through the competitions then a > price money of several tens of k? seems way too high. This are likely > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other business > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even say that > we should not even encourage such a development. > > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point here (I > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have heard and > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long discussions > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but the price > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small addition to > our other activities targeting a very different audience (students etc., > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we > specifically target different groups of serious developers with very > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal. > > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe taking into > account to the degree still possible. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua: > > Hi all, > > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks. > > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of the two > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process. > > Thanks! > > > > > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare > > > Dear Juanjo, > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two challenges, > for the first round are fine. > I wait for additional details especially regarding the final phase > at Campus Party. > > kind regards, > Davide > > > > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > > Hi all, > > Futura Networks will send an email with further details, but let > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to approve > this week. > > As you know, there were aprox. 870 K? in prizes to be consumed > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 K?, 17.500? were consumed > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 ? of one of the special > awards were not given away). > > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which will be > run along a number of months. We would start launching two > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and another one > focused on Smart Businesses. > > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals. Proposers > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will invite > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the Campus > Party Brasil, early February 2014. > > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil event will > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away: > > * 1st prize: 75 K? > * 2nd prize: 40 K? > * third prize: 20 K? > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young developer"): 5.000 > ? each > > > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the second > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the Campus Party > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July 2014). A > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the travel > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place. > > There are several options for this second round of challenges, > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as "FI-WARE > Excellence Awards" (with total 290K? in prizes) where there would > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and focus would > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find another two > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic challenge and > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with 145 K? in > prizes). > > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE > Excellence Awards" with total 290 K? in prizes, but your feedback > is welcome. > > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities and Smart > Businesses (with 145 K? in prizes each) look more clear to me and, > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for advertising > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless anyone > has an objection. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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