I would not mind. It may make sense. I was trying to simplify to the limit. If it depended just on me , we would have refurbished the architecture, materializing, etc as well. But if I do not simplify I know it will take months.
But we have to agree on it later or else we risk people objecting. I can buy both but I will not buy different formats or approaches across chapters. The delivery is separate in each chapter but they should look alike.
So if no one objects I can add a new section to the doc (maybe an annex)
El 15/12/2014 11:30, Alex Glikson escribió:
I am not proposing to change the content of the roadmap in the Wiki/JIRA (which is rather clear - Epics and Features targeting M13 software deliverables).
I am just saying that based on past experience, the delivered documents MUST be self-contained, and having a table with weird feature Ids but without attaching the content of the linked pages will definitely cause a rejection of the deliverables. So, all the partners will 'pay'. And keeping in mind that we have individual deliverables per Chapter, this can be easily avoided. The corresponding WPL/A will just need to invest another hour or so copy-pasting the individual feature tables to the document (which seems to be working properly, so not too much extra work). By the way, in order to save some effort, we can do so only for features in the 'supported' column, and not those 'under analysis'.
I wonder whether others share the concern and the proposed solution.
Regards,
Alex
P.S. Hopefully we can make some progress on this over email, so that we have more time to implement this, and also to save some time during the call
P.P.S. Copying people indivdually -- seems that there are some issues with the mailing list.. sorry for multiple copies - but this seems to be really urgent.
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Date: 15/12/2014 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Fiware-chapter-leaders] Template for the roadmap
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We can discuss it later in this afternoon's call.
Let us remember that those who did their work on time (and there are some) must not be pay for it with changing rules. The delivery is today! In other words, either we settle it today or we deliver as this. The good news is that we have the coordination call later so we can close the discussion.
El 13/12/2014 9:15, Alex Glikson escribió:
Dear Miguel, Juanjo, all,
Thanks for sharing the template.
I wonder whether it will be acceptable by the EC if we exclude the actual description of the roadmap items (pages linked from the roadmap page) from the deliverable. Do we plan to resubmit later, with the content of linked pages? Do we have any indication from PO, even informal?
Maybe it is better to invest in this a bit more (even manually, if we still don't have sufficient automation), but with higher chances for acceptance.
Regards,
Alex
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Date: 12/12/2014 06:12 PM
Subject: [Fiware-chapter-leaders] Template for the roadmap
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Dear all,
Some of you were asking for this in order to deliver on time. Be aware that we will deliver each chapter separately so one does not block the others.
I have created a template for the delivery of the roadmap. You have in red all the places you need to fill in. There are also instructions on how to capture the roadmap page from the wiki and incorporate it to the doc.
Please take a look and if there are any mistakes in the doc let me know.
CAVEAT: As stated in the call, our last at the office will be the 19th of December and we'll be back next year. If you deliver anything later than the 17th of December we cannot guarantee that we will be able to send it to the EC before 2015.
Best regards,
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