Dear Miguel, all, While I agree with the importance of consistent naming across the different online sources, I think we also need to accommodate the need to make *real* changes (not cause by errors) in the architecture. In some cases the change also takes time to propagate -- for example, if we are replacing GE X with GE Y, maybe we will first add a new JIRA component to start the development of the new GE, then maybe update the architecture document (reflecting the *next* release, perhaps), and then after the new GE is fully implemented -- we will update the documentation and education materials, make it available in the catalogue, and roll out in FIWARE Lab. In parallel, we may need to make the "old" GE gradually disappear, maybe with some time period when both exist (e.g., installed in different FIWARE Lab nodes, downloadable from code repositories, supported, available in catalogue and other tools, etc). I assume that the upcoming governance model should address these aspects. Until then, since we don't have a well-defined process for making and communicating such changes -- I assume that different chapters might have taken different approaches. So, if it is a matter of error -- sure, we should go ahead and fix it ASAP. But not all the naming "inconsistencies" are of this nature. Regards, Alex ==================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Infrastructure Solutions, IBM Haifa Research Lab Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com> To: stefano de panfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it> Cc: "fiware at lists.fi-ware.org" <fiware at lists.fi-ware.org>, "fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org" <fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org>, "fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org" <fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org> Date: 10/06/2015 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-chapter-architects] [Fiware-chapter-leaders] Chaos in the names of GEs Sent by: fiware-chapter-architects-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org Dear Stefano, Thanks for the support! I prefer to keep the google doc as the main reference. The doc shows all at a glance and the catalogue requires navigation to obtain a list. Also, the catalogue can be edited by many people and uncontrolled changes will occur. This doc is simple and easy to maintain (people continue asking me to add columns and I refuse to do it to make it simple and clear). Every time someone asks for the list of GEs and contacts, I can send the link to this one. Each GE owner is expected to update all pages and resources to synch it - now, not in a months time. So If I find a set of GE/GEris different from the ones here in different places, I will apply karma. And I may block deliverables as well. I will not buy "do not worry, it is the same one, we just changed the name" -> if you decide to change the name, you duly communicate it in advance. Regards, Miguel El 09/06/2015 a las 19:36, stefano de panfilis escribió: dear miguel, i must only agree with you!!! however i think that it is better to take as reference the catalogue that is the main fiware window and which is certainly the place where our customers go first and more often. so my suggestion is: - that you update the file in the google do - that everybody updates the ge names along all the pages (academy, forge, docs, whatever ...) accordingly - you keep karma based on this! ciao, stefano 2015-06-09 18:51 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: Dear all, Juanjo is suggesting to resend to all the project so here we go. I am sure that each one of you is aware of where his/her GE is and how it is called but people visiting our pages face a complex environment of many GEs and we cannot call the same things in different ways. Consistency in names will be severely taken into account in the future. In other words, we expect the same name for the same GE on the catalogue, JIRA backlog, architecture, rodamap, FIWARE Academy, sw delivery, open specs, etc. Ge owners please make sure now that this is the case ... sometimes we make this so hard to understand from outside! The reference is the link in my previous message (read on ...) It will be used to check against it in internal reviews and any inconsistency will count negatively. In other words, we will apply negative karma to any occurrences of this from now on. Regards, Miguel El 09/06/2015 a las 16:29, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO escribió: Dear all, When I try to come to terms with the architectures I get lost because people change the name of the Ges and GEri quite happily not telling anyone. The only reference is this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA1E1-Qj866E203h0zcJM9twqt2pku7MS_VAZa9Ngqw If you want changes or new ones you need to inform and get an approval before going ahead - not as a "fait accompli" after changing multiple wiki pages with it. The GE names and GEri names must be the same everywhere. Not arbitrarily different ones in the roadmap, academy, architecture, open specs, catalogue, JIRA backlog, etc. I am part of this project and get constantly lost, let alone people from outside. Anyone can see that it is totally wrong. Inconsistencies in the names will be severely taken into account in the future. For the time being I am prioritising those chapters that have something understandable , which is mainly the case of the Apps Architecture, already delivered. 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