dear friend, remeber this "partnership" project not an "owned" project. to be as clear as you .... :-) ciao, stefano 2015-06-11 11:45 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: > Dear Stefano, dear all, > > I appreciate the good intentions in your previous messages but here I have > to be very clear. Given the previous experience with the catalogue, I must > avoid using it as reference for the sake of the project. The catalogue is > the reference for external people but for internal purposes I want one that > is 100% clear and simple and that I can manage at will personally and > flexibly. This will be the reference for any review of resources > (catalogue included). If Juanjo directly orders me to act differently, I > will do it. > > Regards, > > Miguel > > > > > El 11/06/2015 a las 10:09, stefano de panfilis escribió: > > dear miguel, > > (i kept in my answer now only the people who will actually decide). > > 1. we do all agree that ge names cannot change withou a control process: > that's a given. > > 2. the point is to understand how to keep thinks in line now and at > regime. > 2.1. my porposal is to follow more a customer oriented approach (miguel we > have to think this way, we are not a normal rtd project!!!), and now our > customers only know the catalougue, very few browse our forge if at all ... > (we have to improve our communication here): so the catalogue is the only > valid list! > 2.2. it is true that changes in the catalogue migth occur, but only from > ge owners for their own ge. at least, if this is not implemented, please > davide take proper actions. > 2.3. davide please create a report (only for catalogue regeistered users, > or even better only for catalogue administrators) that generates the table > miguel need. i do agree for him this importnat for the duties he has, e.g. > sending the list of ges to people asking that. this way the miguekl list is > always up-to-date > 2.4. if a change in name occurr, than a warning is generated to the ge > owner and miguel (only for notification) to verify all the name occurrences > through out the documentation > 2.5. at this point miguel can easily apply karma. > > 3. for newly developed ge, the miguel/manuel sheet is the reference and > the driver for ge names when these have to be published in the catalogue. > form this point we are back to point 2, i.e. natural ge evolution including > its name if this felt needed by the ge owner should be supported. indeed we > cannot block evolution becouse it is difficult to manage (i perfectly > second alex here), but of course we need tools to control the evolution > (defintively agree with miguel here). > > hope this a good solution for everybody, anyhow this must be a point for > this monday wpl meeting. > > ciao, > stefano > > 2015-06-10 11:39 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < > miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: > >> Dear Stefano, >> >> Thanks for the support! >> >> I prefer to keep the google doc as the main reference. The doc shows all >> at a glance and the catalogue requires navigation to obtain a list. Also, >> the catalogue can be edited by many people and uncontrolled changes will >> occur. This doc is simple and easy to maintain (people continue asking me >> to add columns and I refuse to do it to make it simple and clear). Every >> time someone asks for the list of GEs and contacts, I can send the link to >> this one. >> >> *Each GE owner is expected to update all pages and resources to synch* *it >> *- *now, not in a months time*. So If I find a set of GE/GEris different >> from the ones here in different places, I will apply karma. And I may block >> deliverables as well. I will not buy "do not worry, it is the same one, we >> just changed the name" -> if you decide to change the name, you duly >> communicate it in advance. >> >> Regards, >> >> Miguel >> >> >> El 09/06/2015 a las 19:36, stefano de panfilis escribió: >> >> dear miguel, >> >> i must only agree with you!!! >> >> however i think that it is better to take as reference the catalogue >> that is the main fiware window and which is certainly the place where our >> customers go first and more often. >> >> so my suggestion is: >> - that you update the file in the google do >> - that everybody updates the ge names along all the pages (academy, >> forge, docs, whatever ...) accordingly >> - you keep karma based on this! >> >> ciao, >> stefano >> >> 2015-06-09 18:51 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < >> miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Juanjo is suggesting to resend to all the project so here we go. I am >>> sure that each one of you is aware of where his/her GE is and how it is >>> called but people visiting our pages face a complex environment of many GEs >>> and we cannot call the same things in different ways. Consistency in names >>> will be severely taken into account in the future. >>> >>> In other words, we expect the same name for the same GE on the >>> catalogue, JIRA backlog, architecture, rodamap, FIWARE Academy, sw >>> delivery, open specs, etc. Ge owners please make sure *now* that this >>> is the case ... sometimes we make this so hard to understand from outside! >>> >>> The reference is the link in my previous message (read on ...) It will >>> be used to check against it in internal reviews and any inconsistency will >>> count negatively. In other words, we will apply negative karma to any >>> occurrences of this from now on. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Miguel >>> >>> El 09/06/2015 a las 16:29, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO escribió: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> When I try to come to terms with the architectures I get lost because >>> people change the name of the Ges and GEri quite happily not telling >>> anyone. >>> >>> The only reference is this sheet: >>> >>> - >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA1E1-Qj866E203h0zcJM9twqt2pku7MS_VAZa9Ngqw >>> >>> *If you want changes or new ones you need to inform and get an approval >>> before going ahead* - not as a "fait accompli" after changing multiple >>> wiki pages with it. >>> >>> *The GE names and GEri names must be the same everywhere*. Not >>> arbitrarily different ones in the roadmap, academy, architecture, open >>> specs, catalogue, JIRA backlog, etc. I am part of this project and get >>> constantly lost, let alone people from outside. Anyone can see that it is >>> totally wrong. 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