this means decisions as to be taken together, so even my position does not count anything else as my own position :) ciao, stefano 2015-06-11 15:38 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>: > dear friend, > > remeber this "partnership" project not an "owned" project. > to be as clear as you .... :-) > > ciao, > stefano > > 2015-06-11 11:45 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < > miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: > >> Dear Stefano, dear all, >> >> I appreciate the good intentions in your previous messages but here I >> have to be very clear. Given the previous experience with the catalogue, I >> must avoid using it as reference for the sake of the project. The >> catalogue is the reference for external people but for internal purposes I >> want one that is 100% clear and simple and that I can manage at will >> personally and flexibly. This will be the reference for any review of >> resources (catalogue included). If Juanjo directly orders me to act >> differently, I will do it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Miguel >> >> >> >> >> El 11/06/2015 a las 10:09, stefano de panfilis escribió: >> >> dear miguel, >> >> (i kept in my answer now only the people who will actually decide). >> >> 1. we do all agree that ge names cannot change withou a control >> process: that's a given. >> >> 2. the point is to understand how to keep thinks in line now and at >> regime. >> 2.1. my porposal is to follow more a customer oriented approach (miguel >> we have to think this way, we are not a normal rtd project!!!), and now our >> customers only know the catalougue, very few browse our forge if at all ... >> (we have to improve our communication here): so the catalogue is the only >> valid list! >> 2.2. it is true that changes in the catalogue migth occur, but only from >> ge owners for their own ge. at least, if this is not implemented, please >> davide take proper actions. >> 2.3. davide please create a report (only for catalogue regeistered users, >> or even better only for catalogue administrators) that generates the table >> miguel need. i do agree for him this importnat for the duties he has, e.g. >> sending the list of ges to people asking that. this way the miguekl list is >> always up-to-date >> 2.4. if a change in name occurr, than a warning is generated to the ge >> owner and miguel (only for notification) to verify all the name occurrences >> through out the documentation >> 2.5. at this point miguel can easily apply karma. >> >> 3. for newly developed ge, the miguel/manuel sheet is the reference and >> the driver for ge names when these have to be published in the catalogue. >> form this point we are back to point 2, i.e. natural ge evolution including >> its name if this felt needed by the ge owner should be supported. indeed we >> cannot block evolution becouse it is difficult to manage (i perfectly >> second alex here), but of course we need tools to control the evolution >> (defintively agree with miguel here). >> >> hope this a good solution for everybody, anyhow this must be a point >> for this monday wpl meeting. >> >> ciao, >> stefano >> >> 2015-06-10 11:39 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < >> miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: >> >>> Dear Stefano, >>> >>> Thanks for the support! >>> >>> I prefer to keep the google doc as the main reference. The doc shows all >>> at a glance and the catalogue requires navigation to obtain a list. Also, >>> the catalogue can be edited by many people and uncontrolled changes will >>> occur. This doc is simple and easy to maintain (people continue asking me >>> to add columns and I refuse to do it to make it simple and clear). Every >>> time someone asks for the list of GEs and contacts, I can send the link to >>> this one. >>> >>> *Each GE owner is expected to update all pages and resources to synch* *it >>> *- *now, not in a months time*. So If I find a set of GE/GEris >>> different from the ones here in different places, I will apply karma. And I >>> may block deliverables as well. I will not buy "do not worry, it is the >>> same one, we just changed the name" -> if you decide to change the name, >>> you duly communicate it in advance. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Miguel >>> >>> >>> El 09/06/2015 a las 19:36, stefano de panfilis escribió: >>> >>> dear miguel, >>> >>> i must only agree with you!!! >>> >>> however i think that it is better to take as reference the catalogue >>> that is the main fiware window and which is certainly the place where our >>> customers go first and more often. >>> >>> so my suggestion is: >>> - that you update the file in the google do >>> - that everybody updates the ge names along all the pages (academy, >>> forge, docs, whatever ...) accordingly >>> - you keep karma based on this! >>> >>> ciao, >>> stefano >>> >>> 2015-06-09 18:51 GMT+02:00 MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < >>> miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Juanjo is suggesting to resend to all the project so here we go. I am >>>> sure that each one of you is aware of where his/her GE is and how it is >>>> called but people visiting our pages face a complex environment of many GEs >>>> and we cannot call the same things in different ways. Consistency in names >>>> will be severely taken into account in the future. >>>> >>>> In other words, we expect the same name for the same GE on the >>>> catalogue, JIRA backlog, architecture, rodamap, FIWARE Academy, sw >>>> delivery, open specs, etc. Ge owners please make sure *now* that this >>>> is the case ... sometimes we make this so hard to understand from outside! >>>> >>>> The reference is the link in my previous message (read on ...) It will >>>> be used to check against it in internal reviews and any inconsistency will >>>> count negatively. In other words, we will apply negative karma to any >>>> occurrences of this from now on. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Miguel >>>> >>>> El 09/06/2015 a las 16:29, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO escribió: >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> When I try to come to terms with the architectures I get lost because >>>> people change the name of the Ges and GEri quite happily not telling >>>> anyone. >>>> >>>> The only reference is this sheet: >>>> >>>> - >>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA1E1-Qj866E203h0zcJM9twqt2pku7MS_VAZa9Ngqw >>>> >>>> *If you want changes or new ones you need to inform and get an >>>> approval before going ahead* - not as a "fait accompli" after changing >>>> multiple wiki pages with it. >>>> >>>> *The GE names and GEri names must be the same everywhere*. Not >>>> arbitrarily different ones in the roadmap, academy, architecture, open >>>> specs, catalogue, JIRA backlog, etc. I am part of this project and get >>>> constantly lost, let alone people from outside. Anyone can see that it is >>>> totally wrong. 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