[Fiware-chapter-leaders] [Fiware-chapter-architects] Fwd: FW: Proposal for the simplification of the deliverables of FI-Core

Alex Glikson GLIKSON at il.ibm.com
Mon Jun 15 12:36:47 CEST 2015


I think Arian raises excellent questions in the context of D11.x. I also 
think that we, as a consortium, don't have clear answers, and didn't 
conduct a meaningful discussion to figure out whether we even have a 
consensus or not. It seems that the answers would be tightly related to 
the governance model being defined for the open source community. On the 
other hand, maybe the relevant group to reach such a consensus would be 
the (founding) members of the to-be-established Foundation, and not 
necessarily the FI-Core consortium.

In more practical terms, if we decide to keep D11.x, it seems that 
replicating the individual GE specifications there might be redundant, and 
we may need to focus on architectural guiding principles.

Regards,
Alex

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From:   MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>
To:     "fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org" 
<fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org>, 
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Date:   15/06/2015 01:23 PM
Subject:        [Fiware-chapter-architects] Fwd: FW: Proposal for the 
simplification of the deliverables of FI-Core
Sent by:        fiware-chapter-architects-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org



Dear all,

Just to share Arian's reactions to our proposal to simplify the 
deliverables. His answer is in my opinion rather reasonable.

Maybe we do not have time to analyse it and comment on it today but I 
wanted to pass the info to all of you for the sake of transparency.

Regards,

Miguel




-------- Mensaje reenviado -------- 
Asunto: 
FW: Proposal for the simplification of the deliverables of FI-Core
Fecha: 
Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:42:58 +0000
De: 
Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu
Para: 
miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com
CC: 
juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com, manuel.escrichevicente at telefonica.com, 
javier.depedrosanchez at telefonica.com


Dear Miguel,
 
Background: this is a response to some oral statements during the FI-WARE 
review, where I expressed surprise that FI-Core had so many deliverables, 
while at the same time the FI-WARE project was complaining about too many 
deliverables.
 
Response:
-          Overall, the reduction in the number and frequency of 
deliverables is good
-          D11.2-4: this is probably the most significant change. See 
below.
-          D11.5: drop D11.5.3. No change in schedule. Given the 1300 
SMEs, the whole idea of the live demos (and its 200 PM effort) is to be 
reconsidered, as repeated before.
-          D.1<y>.1.(1,2): OK to move 1st issue to May/15.
-          D.1<y>.6.(1,2,3,4): OK to make it annual.
-          D.1<y>.8.<j>.(1,2): OK to merge with D.22.1.(1,2)
-          D.21.x.(1,2): OK to merge
-          D.22.x.(1,2) : OK to merge
-          D31.5.x: OK to make it annual
-          D.32.1.(1,2): OK for Sept+Dec 2015, with a draft at the time of 
the first review 
-          D32.2 "Confidence-building framework": This is related to 
proposing processes to evaluate the suitability of contributions [of new 
enablers, by the open source community], based on a wide adoption by 
application developers, and the consistency of such contributions to be 
compliant with common rules. It also defines what the criteria in the 
"Acceptance" boxes in presentations about the Open Source Community would 
be. This cannot be skipped, but the information may be provided in other 
deliverables.
-          D33.2 "Expansion beyond Europe": the proposal is to leave this 
to FI-Links completely. I guess this means only support to non-European 
entities in the contract (to be confirmed).
 
Regarding D11.x:
-          Without an overall architecture and roadmap, this change 
basically means giving up on the "FIWARE is a COHERENT set of enablers" 
vision, let alone the "FIWARE is a platform" strategy. FIWARE would then 
be a set of enablers, without coherence.
-          The integration / interoperability of GEs has always been a 
question mark. Without overall architecture guidance, interoperability of 
any combination of GEs is not per se designed in and integration of any 
set of GEs, if required, is an issue for anyone taking up the enablers. 
With no overall architecture, there are no sufficient mechanisms to assure 
the interoperability of any set of GEs, other than what perhaps can be 
done on chapter level, which will be partial at best and without any 
overall guidance.
-          This will have consequences for how to sell FIWARE. What does 
it really mean to be a FIWARE enabler? FIWARE would become like a label 
for passing certain acceptance tests, but not much more than that.
-          Then, how would the Open Source Community choose the "accepted 
FIWARE" specification of a certain functionality, if it can choose between 
specification A and B? Certainly, the fit of any specification with 
complementary, already accepted and to be defined FIWARE specifications 
would be a major criterion (in addition to overall functionality, and 
prerequisites such as sufficient quality, documentation, on FI-Lab, etc.). 
It looks like the Open Source Community (or the Technical Committee 
thereof) would make some arbitrary decisions here, not based on vision or 
grand design, but at best on legacy.
-          Then, what would be the argument for not having both 
specifications A and B for a certain component/functionality? Would 
overlaps be allowed? If so, again, FIWARE is reduced to a label. If not, 
arbitrary and opaque decisions are around the corner.
-          The consortium needs to ask itself what it means to be a FIWARE 
enabler. There are some 'existential' questions to be answered.
 
 
From: MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO [
mailto:miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:07 AM
To: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT)
Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE; 'JAVIER DE PEDRO 
SANCHEZ'
Subject: Proposal for the simplification of the deliverables of FI-Core
 
Dear Arian,

After our interactions with you in the past FI-WARE review we have 
concluded that it makes complete sense to take your offer and improve the 
deliverables. We have been putting some time in discussing how to 
reorganize the FI-Core deliverables with the focus on simplification. What 
I am passing you now is just a proposal, some things you may agree with 
and some others may need to stay as they are. In any case, part of the 
deliverables at stake are ongoing work so coming to a swift conclusions 
would help us to minimize delays. 

This is what we propose: 
·         
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vEFqA7ZumHjgT1bcDl7nST_ZI7YfXILGTbjkIb-tgFU 

We created a timeline with all the deliverables as they are now and added 
column D with our proposal of change. The level of detail in the proposal 
is not very high to make this manageable but we can send more details for 
those changes that you may want to get better explained. 

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards,

Miguel






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