it’s online: https://www.fi-xifi.eu/fi-ops.html -- Dr. Federico M. Facca CREATE-NET Via alla Cascata 56/D 38123 Povo Trento (Italy) T +39 0461 408400 (1669) F +39 0461 421157 M +39 334 6049758 E federico.facca at create-net.org W www.create-net.org On 20/nov/2013, at 09:52, Federico Michele Facca <federico.facca at create-net.org> wrote: > i am fine with that. I will pass the corrections to the web site editor. > > federico > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> wrote: > On 19/11/13 19:29, Federico Michele Facca wrote: >> >> >> • I don't understand why you introduce the concept of "XiFi Community Cloud" ... again referring to a concept that is named using a term linked to a project that will end sooner or later ... why didn't you use the term "FI-Lab Community Cloud" or "FI-Lab Cloud" (btw, I guess it would be more correct to say "FI-Lab Cloud Community" rather than "FI-Lab Community Cloud") >> We can take out XIFI reference, it was just to quickly identify the 5 infrastructures mentioned. Beside this, let me explain why we used "Community Cloud" and not "Cloud Community". The aspect we were trying to emphasize there, is not the developer side (for which FI-LAB Cloud Community would be ok), but rather the infrastructure side and in particular the "deployment biz model". >> >> So the concept is in short could be "A Community Cloud (that says how the infrastructure providers "collaborate") for the FI-LAB Developers Community (that says who benefit from the Community Cloud approach)." >> >> FI-Ops is the tool used to build the Community Cloud for the FI-LAB Developers Community. In the next few months, 5 regions will be available in FI-LAB and between April 2014 and April 2015 the Community Cloud will include 15 regions across different EU nations. >> >> What do you think? any better suggestion? > > > Understood and thanks to the explanation. However, I'm worried that, if I got confused, others may get confused as well so I would go for a different term for describing the concept (with which I agree with). > > My assumption is that we can state that, thanks to XiFi, we are building a Cloud that expands overs a federated set of datacenters distributed over several regions across different countries. Those datacenters become the "nodes" of the Cloud. However, despite being distributed over several nodes, the Cloud itself is accessible through a single entry point on the Internet, as we have discussed several times. My understanding is that the set of Cloud nodes are what built the "Community Cloud" as you name it. Correct me if I understanding it wrong. If you agree in this description, we definitively are on the same page. > > Then, it would be more a matter of looking for a term that avoid misinterpretation ... Which could be a better term ? Honestly, I haven't came myself with a definitive answer, though terms like "Federated Cloud", "Multi-regional Cloud", or "Geographically distributed Cloud" or "Distributed Cloud" (better than pan-european Cloud because we aim to seek for addition of new nodes in other regions like Latam) look better to me: > FI-Ops is the suite of tools used to build and operate the distributed Cloud linked to FI-LAB. In the next few months, 5 regions will be available in FI-LAB and between April 2014 and April 2015 the distributed Cloud linked to FI-LAB will include 15 regions across different EU nations. > > (note: FI-Ops would not only comprise the tools to "build" but also to "operate", thus I have adding that word. "suite of tools" seem also better to me than "tool") > > Again, I'm not totally happy with any of the proposed terms, but definitively would go for replacing "Community Cloud". > > >> Other than that, the content looks nice. I may phrase some sentences in a slightly different way, trying to be a bit more accurate, but I believe overall is fine and enough accurate. >> after the first version we will have a more clear picture also of next ones and for sure we will be more precise. i hope for the time being it can be considered ok :) > > True. That's why I agreed to keep it as it was. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > >> >> Best, >> Federico >> >> Cheers, >> -- Juanjo >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: >> www.tid.es >> >> email: >> jhierro at tid.es >> >> twitter: >> twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >> and Chief Architect >> >> FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: >> http://www.fi-ware.eu >> >> facebook: >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> >> twitter: >> http://twitter.com/FIware >> >> linkedIn: >> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> On 15/11/13 14:25, Monique Calisti | Martel Consulting wrote: >>> Dear Juanjo, >>> >>> here the link: it works...it's just that the content is expected to evolve in the next few hours/days... >>> >>> https://www.fi-xifi.eu/fi-ops/ >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Monique >>> >>> >>> On 15.11.2013 11:23, Juanjo Hierro wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Could you provide me the URL we agreed to add to the FI-Lab Help&Info page (home page) ? 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