From cecile.condat at atos.net Fri Jul 1 00:41:11 2016 From: cecile.condat at atos.net (CONDAT, CECILE) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:41:11 +0000 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes and draft version as per today meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, Please find new documents. Best documents, C?cile CONDAT Gestionnaire brevets ? Assistante de Claire Le Floch - Atos Groupe T. +33 (0)1 73 26 01 70 M. +33 (0)6 73 55 17 09 cecile.condat at atos.net Direction de la Propri?t? Intellectuelle Rue Jean Jaur?s ? BP 68 78340 Les Clayes-sous-Bois atos.net [cid:2__=4EBBF740DFF113028f9e8a93df93869 at bull.net] >>>>> Bull a rejoint le groupe Atos <<<<< From: fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [mailto:fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org] On Behalf Of stefano de panfilis Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:18 PM To: fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes and draft version as per today meeting dear all, please find attached the minutes of the today meeting and the current version of the bylaws. please check the comments in the doc as there are actions for some of us. see you all on next friday (1st July 2016) at 9:30. ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 ATOS WARNING ! 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The employee is seconded to the Foundation in Germany o Meaning the employee still has a legal bound/contract with his own Company and not with the Foundation o His own company covers his social security and income taxes, as usual ? The employee will Telework from his Home country (i.e. Spain, France, Italy) Regarding both scenarios, we need to understand: 1. Are they legally possible and feasible? 2. Can and employee be seconded to a German company and Telework from his home country? 3. There are some fiscal questions bounded to the telework (i.e. Fiscal residence). Taking into consideration that the foundation doesn't/won't have a legal entity (VAT) in each of the home countries: a. Who pays for the social security of each of the teleworking employees, where and how? b. Who pays for the income taxes of each of the teleworking employees, where and how? I understand that question 2 only applies for scenario 2 and question 3 only applies for scenario 1. 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Best regdrs, Claire. -----Original Appointment----- From: Stefano de panfilis [mailto:ste.depanfilis at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 12:22 PM To: Stefano de panfilis; fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] Invitation: FIWARE Foundation legal task force @ Wed 13 Jul 2016 09:00 - 11:00 (CEST) (stefano de panfilis) When: mercredi 13 juillet 2016 09:00-11:00 (UTC+01:00) Bruxelles, Copenhague, Madrid, Paris. Where: powwownow and orange cockpit more details ? FIWARE Foundation legal task force When Wed 13 Jul 2016 09:00 ? 11:00 Rome Where powwownow and orange cockpit (map) Calendar stefano de panfilis Who ? Stefano de panfilis - organiser ? fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Going? Yes - Maybe - No more options ? Invitation from Google Calendar You are receiving this courtesy email at the account fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org because you are an attendee of this event. 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Ciao Stefano Il 11 Lug 2016 23:57, "LE FLOCH, CLAIRE" ha scritto: > Hello I am not available on Wenesday but only each Fridays as already > planned. > Best regdrs, Claire. > > -----Original Appointment----- > *From:* Stefano de panfilis [mailto:ste.depanfilis at gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 12:22 PM > *To:* Stefano de panfilis; fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org > *Subject:* [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] Invitation: FIWARE > Foundation legal task force @ Wed 13 Jul 2016 09:00 - 11:00 (CEST) (stefano > de panfilis) > *When:* mercredi 13 juillet 2016 09:00-11:00 (UTC+01:00) Bruxelles, > Copenhague, Madrid, Paris. > *Where:* powwownow and orange cockpit > > > *more details ?* > > *FIWARE Foundation legal task force* > When Wed 13 Jul 2016 09:00 ? 11:00 Rome > Where powwownow and orange cockpit (*map* > ) > > Calendar stefano de panfilis > Who > ? 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Claire LE FLOCH Group Head of Atos legal Intellectual Property T +33685810694 Le 12 juil. 2016 ? 18:40, stefano de panfilis > a ?crit : dear all, i do apologise but the email i prepared, with the minutes and last version, i wrote but never sent. here it is. see you tomorrow. ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 ATOS WARNING ! This message contains attachments that could potentially harm your computer. Please make sure you open ONLY attachments from senders you know, trust and is in an e-mail that you are expecting. AVERTISSEMENT ATOS ! Ce message contient des pi?ces jointes qui peuvent potentiellement endommager votre ordinateur. 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URL: From cecile.condat at atos.net Tue Jul 12 20:46:47 2016 From: cecile.condat at atos.net (CONDAT, CECILE) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:46:47 +0000 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] FIWARE Claire's review Message-ID: Good evening, Please find here enclosed Claire's comment and here after the answer to the questions issues from the phone meeting concerning the employment of employees as part of the foundation. Best regards, C?cile Beforehand, one issue: as we are no tax experts, the VAT-issue and the income tax issues should be checked by tax accountants. I could easily gather the information for you with an international tax accountant office. Just give me the go, if you want me to do this. 1. Executive Summary - Results in short 1.1 It is planned to deploy employees of a French, Spain or Italian companies, for a fixed duration to a German Association (in German: Verein), the deploying companies being part/member of the association. 1.2 As the association and deploying company are two different legal entities, such crossborder deployment in general is possible. 1.3 Please note, that our advice is so far only based on German and European Law - this means our answer is restricted to the option of an association in Germany and a deployment to Germany. n addition, the national laws of France, Spain and Italy could have restrictions for deploying employees to Germany So please verify also compliance with your own national Laws and Own Companies Corporate policies (, France,Spain and Italy). 1.4 There are two options for the handling of your plans (work of already employed persons1 for the association): 1) The current employment contract with the French/Spain/Italian company is put on rest for a fixed period, so that it is in abeyance. The employee is employed for a fixed term in Germany by the association as new employee with a new employment contract for the fixed term. In Germany, a fixed term contract is valid without a special reason for the first 2 years, afterwards only with reason, like e.g. a project or replacement of other employees (illness, parental leave, or else). The fixed term contract requires written form, which means original signatures of both contracting parties. Of course new hires could be either made by the association in Germany or by the core members of the associations, also as permanent employees. 2) The current employer and the employee sign an amendment to the current employment contract with the content, that the employee is deployed to the association Fiware in Germany for a fixed term. Both options are generally possible also with telework of the employees in their home countries (France, Spain, Italy), for the following: 1 T is option 1) in telework; and 2 T is option 2 in telework. Please note, that this is also said only from the German Law perspective. German law foresees special requirements for telework with regard to e.g. data protection, employment health and safety, and more. If there should be a workers council in Germany (in case of employment with the German association), the rights of co determination would have to be complied with. Please tell me, if you need more detailed information. At the moment I assumed that you need only a brief overview. Foreign laws, such as French, Spain or Italian laws could provide more requirements, exceeding the European regulation, which also exists regarding e.g. telework (European frame agreement with regard to health protection 2002), employment health and safety. Special rules also apply, if the telework should be in Home offices (and not only in the home countries of the employees). In both options, the choice of law should be expressly made - choice should be the law of the association in Germany. The first option (with or without telework) could be easier, because you don?t have the problem of a cross - border supply of temporary workers between two legal entities (see below under 2.). But this should be clarified together with French, Italian, and Spanish Labour Lawyers. For the first option of handling - without telework - , social security contributions and most likely income tax have to be paid in Germany by the German association to the German authorities. Every individual employee might have the possibility to offset some of these payments with regard to their national obligations in their home countries. This depends on each individual case, if you want us to check also with tax accountants, please provide us with more details. For the option 1 T (first option with telework in home countries) according to prevailing opinion the social security contributions can still be paid in the home country. In case of the second option - fixed term deployments as supply of workers to the association without telework with an ongoing employment contract to the current French/Spain/Italian company -, the social security system of the current home country can remain applicable depending on the duration of deployment (see Sec. 4 below). For the option 2 T (second option with telework in home countries), the duration of deployment is not relevant. Income tax possibly in Germany but should be clarified according to each individual case and on the basis of double tax agreements with tax accountants. 1.5 As the employees are most likely also European citizens, you don?t need visa or work permission in Germany. The employees only need the European passport. In case of employees with other citizenship outside the European Union, they would need a residence permit and a work permit in Germany, if they are supposed to live in Germany. We can assist you in that matter. The elaborate issues are as follows: 2. Supply of temporary workers - legal requirements 2.1 Two options of handling Generally, there are two options for the handling of the aimed outcome (employee is working for a association for a fixed period in Germany): 1) The current employment contract with the French/Spain/Italian company is put on rest for a fixed period, so that it is in abeyance. The employee is employed for a fixed term in Germany by the association as new employee with a new employment contract for the fixed term. In Germany, a fixed term contract is valid without a special reason for the first 2 years, afterwards only with reason, like e.g. a project or replacement of other employees (illness, parental leave, or else). The fixed term contract requires written form, which means original signatures of both contracting parties. 2) The current employer and the employee sign an amendment to the current employment contract, with the content, that the employee is deployed to association Fiware in Germany for a fixed term. For the legal requirements with regard to suppy of temporary workers, there is no difference whether or not the employees work as teleworkers in both options. 2.2 German law on second option The second option would be a supply of temporary workers between two legal entities, because the deployed employee is most likely going to receive the daily directions by a superior of the association. This would most likely be also the case, if the employee would do telework in the home country - he would still receive directions from Germany, from the superiors of the association. No supply of workers would be the case of a mere service by the French/Italian/Spain company for the German Association - but then, the employee should only receive directions by a superior in France/Italy/Spain, have in best case no office in Germany, not being real part of the business operations of the association in Germany. I assumed that this is not you plan as it is not practical. According to German law, a supply of temporary workers generally requires a permission by the Bundesagentur f?r Arbeit (Federal Employment Agency). There are some exemptions, acc. ? 1 Sec. 3 Arbeitnehmer?berlassungsgesetz (Law for Supply of Work), e.g. - for the fixed supply of workers between two companies of a corporate group acc. to ? 18 German Aktiengesetz (German Stock Companies Act) in case the employees have not been employed for this purpose by the supplier; - or in case of supply in order to avoid dismissals or short time work between two companies of the same branch foreseen by a collective agreement with trade union; - or on case of occasional supply between employers and in case the employees have not been employed for this purpose by the supplier; - or in case of a joint business based on bilateral agreements beween two countries. As there is no safe jurisdiction with regard to "occasional" supply (third exemption), there arguments that this provision does not comply with European Law and this most likely does not cover well planned deployments, only the first exemption - supply of work for a fixed term in a corporate group - could be applicable here. But I would need more detailed information in order to assess whether or not there is a corporate business according to the German Stock Companies Act. With regard to cross border - supply of workers (foreign supplier and national hirer), there does not exist high court jurisdictions of German courts yet, whether or not the law requiring the permission, the German law for supply of workers (Arbeitnehmer?berlassungsgesetz), is applicable or not. In the legal literature, this issue is discussed controversially. Thus, although we could follow the arguments of parts of the literature, that you don?t need a permission, there is also a strong opinion stating otherwise, including according to their webpages the responsible authorities. In order to be on the safe side, I?d therefore advise you to ask for a confirmation of the responsible authority and if required by the authority - and if the is no exemption case - apply for the permission. Because otherwise, the French/Italian/Spanish company risks e.g. penalties and the German association risks that ? 10 Arbeitnehmer?berlassungsgesetz (Law for supply of workers) might be applicable. According to this provision, the employee can also argue an employment contract directly with the entity he is supplied to (in your case the association), if the supplier does not have the permission of the authority. If the employment contract with the supplying company was a permanent contract he could also argue a permanent contract with the association. In Germany, the application for a permission means a lot of paperwork, but the permission is going to be possible in your case, as the supplier is a European company2. I can support you in that matter. The Bundesagentur f?r Arbeit (Federal Emplyoment Agency) has delegated its responsability for permissions to different regional sub-authorities, depending on the country of the supplier. For the first time, the permission is only for a fixed duration, but can be prolonged. In case of the second option you would also need a contract between the current employer company = supplier and the German association = hirer. If you want, I could sent you a draft - here, also a choice of governing law should be made expressly in the contract. 2.3 Changes in German law in 2017 Please note, that according to current development, it is most likley that in 2017 there will be an amended law with regard to supply of workers. Currently, the decision of the For companies and citizens from outside the European Union the permission is going to be denied, acc.- ? 3 sec. 2, 3, 4, Arbeitnehmer?berlassungsgesetz (law for supply of workers) German Bundestag (German Parliament) and Bundesrat (Federal Assembly) are planned for autumn 2016. For the time being, I set aside the planned amendmends in order to not overload this statement. 2.4 Other laws Here, it should be checked with the other lawyers, whether or not the laws of France, Spain, or Italy provide more requirements for the cross border supply of work. Worst case would be, that you need double permissions in two countries (country of supplier and country of hirer). Most national laws, especially the German law and also to my latest knowledge, the French law only allow the fixed term supply of workers (and in France also the basis contract with the supplier shall be fixed term, which is not required in Germany), permanent supply of workers is forbidden3. Although this is most likely not a problem in your case, there might be legal provisions restricting the maximum duration of the supply. In Germany, there is no concrete maximum for the fixed duration of supply of workers yet, but it should not be more than 18 months (as this is the current draft legislation of the Federal Ministry of Labour for changes in 2017). 2.5 First option According to German labour law, the first option (inactive employment contract with the French/Spanish/Italian company and new fixed term contract with the German association) could be easier. It should be clarified with French, Spanish an Italian lawyers as well. The current contract should be put on rest and expressly stated that the current employer approves the work of the employee for the association in the meantime. Also if the first option would be with telework in home countries, this would not require a special permission with regard to supply of workers. The legal requirements for the supply would not apply, as the employee would be employed by the association in Germany and also receive directions from the association (no third party = hirer involved). There exists an agreement of the Federal Empoyment Agency (Bundesagentur f?r Arbeit) and the French pendant that the French limits for supply of workers do not apply in Germany in case of cross border supply between these countries. 3. Applicable law for the duration of work for the association No matter what option you choose, the easiest way with regard to the applicable National Law for the fixed duration of work for the association, would be an express choice of law in the contract. The choice of law is possible in the European Union, acc. Art. 3 ROM I-VO. Nevertheless, acc. Art. 8 ROM I-VO compulsory national provisions of the other engaged country prevail. If no choice of law is made by the contracting parties, most likely in case of only fixed term deployments the law of the home country remains applicable, acc. Art. 8 Sec. 2, 2nd sentence ROM I-VO. But this should always be checked in each individual case. No matter what law is applicable, some national rules of the place of work (can be different in case of telework in home countries) for the fixed term always apply, e.g. Art. 9 ROM IVO, or Art. 12 Sec. 2 ROM I - VO. With regard to the work for a German association, no matter what rule of law is made, all legal provisions with binding minimum conditions for employment contracts apply in any case, such as minimum salaries of 8,50 gross per working hour or more minimum working conditions in some branches like building industry, cleaning industry, security services or in branches where a collective agreement with trade unions is declared as binding by the government (so called allgemeinverbindliche Tarifvertr?ge). Here, I would need more details in order to give you the concrete minimum conditions. But, as your case is part of the IT-business, you should not be in conflict with minimum legal requirements. According to the legal literature, also the equal-pay-obligation of the supplier applies (deployed employee is entitled to the same conditions like comparable employees at the hirer). This would also be a precondition for the permission. Finally, the European Directive on Deployment and the European Directive with regard to supply of workers are applicable. In addition, according to European law, European citizen have to be equally treated like domestic citizen. 4. Social Security contribution According to the German law, ?? 3 ff. SGB IV (Social Insurance Code), generally the principle of territoriality applies, which means that for work in Germany, generally social contributions have to be paid in Germany. In case of fixed deployment to Germany from a foreign EU-country - option 2 (see above under sec. 2.1) -, according to ? 5 SGB IV the foreign social insurance remains applicable. Deployment means, that the salary is still paid by the current employer. This would also apply in case of telework in home countries by the employees (option 2 T, see above 2.1). According to ? 6 SGB IV cross-national law remains unaffected4. For deployments within the EU, Regulation No. 883/2004 is such a cross-national law. These Regulations are according to the European Court also applicable to supply of workers. According to these Regulations, the social security system of the home country applies, if the planned deployment does not exceed 24 months and no other already deployed employee is going to be replaced, Art. 12 Regulation No. 883/2004. According Art. 16 Regulation No. 883/2004 other agreements are possible, by application of the employer or employee. In case of a longer deployment, the social security system of the place of work (Germany, except in case of telework in home country, for the latter see last section below) applies from the first day on. The same would be the case if you had supply of workers without permission of the responsible authority, because of the simulated employment contract to the hirer acc. ? 10 Arbeitnehmer?berlassungsgesetz(Decision of High Social Court 25 October 1988, 12 RK 21/87). In case of the first option (2.1), there would be no deployment in the above mentioned sense, and the German Social security system would be directly applicable. In case of 1 T - first option (2.1) with telework in home countries being employed by the association in Germany - the employees would not sit and work in a German office. According to the ?? 3 ff. SGB IV (Social Insurance Code), the seat of the association, citizenship of the employee, or the place of residence of the employee are irrevant for the question where social contributions will have to be paid. Acc. to ? 3 Nr. 1 IV, the determining factor is the "Besch?ftigungsort" ("place of employment"). The place of employment is defined in ? 9 4 Especially if the deploying country would be ousidethe EU, have to be checked for each crossnational employment. If you need further details, please tell me. SGB IV. As there is nearly no jurisdiction with regard to ? 9 SGB IV there is a little risk, but the prevailing opinion in literature underlines, that in case of telework, the place of employment is the country where the employee is living and working. Thus, social contributions have to be paid in the home country. Please note, that this can change, if the employees should work only part time telework in their home countries and the other part in Germany (acc. to ? 9 sec. 3 SGB IV place of employment would be the place where the employee works most of the time). 5. Income tax The question of income tax, which national rules apply, depend on the individual case. General rule is, that an employee with residence and work place in Germany has to pay tax in Germany. But special rules are given by double tax agreements. Between Germany and France, Italy, Spain exist double tax agreements. It depends e.g. on the kind of position (sometimes special rules apply with regard to managing directors, proxy holders or Board members), the personal situation of the employee (e.g. residence, also the question whether the spouse is working as well and in which country), the duration of deployment (generally 183 days/calendar year, but not applicable in the second option of supply of work). If you want me to provide you the double tax agreements, please tell me. If you need more detailed information, please provide us with more information, we would then cooperate with tax accountants as well. 6. Summary To sum up, on the basis of German Labour Law, the option deployment = supply of workers is possible without a permission, if it is a fixed supply period between legal entities of a group according to ? 18 German Stock Companies Act (or any other exemption applies) and the employee has not been employed for this purpose, otherwise the foreign supplier company would need a permission. In case of a deployment between EU legal entities not longer than 24 months (and in case of not replacing another employee), or in case of telework in the home countries the social security system of the supplying company/home country remains applicable. In case of a deployment of a EU citizen no residence permission or work permission is needed. Specialized lawyers of France, Spain, and Italy should advise on that matter too - I offer you to gather all information. The Income tax issue should be clarified after providing more details, I usually cooperate with tax accountants on that matter. Next step would be your decision, whether you want to have detailed information for all countries on all law fields (labour law, social security, income tax) and whether I should gather information. FPS is member of reliable network of lawyers and I have already worked together with lawyers of all European countries in question and also cooperate with tax accountants. C?cile CONDAT Gestionnaire brevets - Assistante de Claire Le Floch - Atos Groupe T. +33 (0)1 73 26 01 70 M. +33 (0)6 73 55 17 09 cecile.condat at atos.net Direction de la Propri?t? 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Thank you. -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claire.le-floch at atos.net Wed Jul 13 09:59:06 2016 From: claire.le-floch at atos.net (LE FLOCH, CLAIRE) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:59:06 +0000 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] Fwd: Conference coop'net : Fiware, Mot de passe : 12072016 In-Reply-To: References: <20491_1468393352_5785E788_20491_5117_1_B833C1F7DFE286498DC7D54F2AA1388411CB5653@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Hello As discussed already and again yesterday, I am not available for this call today, but all Fridays, please provide me with your questions/comments on my last proposals. Best regards, Claire. From: fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [mailto:fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org] On Behalf Of stefano de panfilis Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:29 AM To: fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] Fwd: Conference coop'net : Fiware, Mot de passe : 12072016 ciao, stefano ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > Date: 2016-07-13 9:02 GMT+02:00 Subject: Conference coop'net : Fiware, Mot de passe : 12072016 To: stefano de panfilis >, "fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org" > Pour rejoindre la conf?rence coop'net / To join the Coop'Net conference: - depuis / from INTRANET : https://coopnet.sso.infra.ftgroup/?c=rgj7l2cBmF - depuis / from INTERNET : https://coopnet.multimedia-conference.orange-business.com/?c=rgj7l2cBmF ************************************************* Hello, Here is the coop net for our today?s call. 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Sylvie De : fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [mailto:fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org] De la part de stefano de panfilis Envoy? : mercredi 13 juillet 2016 11:20 ? : fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Objet : [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes of today dear all, first of all let me congratulate you all for the great work as now we have the final draft in our hands! attached you have the minutes of the today call and the current version of the bylaws with the last actions (basically integration in the claire version and the revision of the apache contributor license agreement) which i'll within this friday eob. then all to read it and provide comments, if any, to be analysed at the next meeting (22nd july usual time) if needed. then it is the turn of the bod to procede with the ff registration. ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Message-ID: dear claire, can you clarify this point according to the legal form we chose (verein)? this is quite an important info for decisons of the bod about the way to fund the ff. ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claire.le-floch at atos.net Fri Jul 15 14:10:01 2016 From: claire.le-floch at atos.net (LE FLOCH, CLAIRE) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:10:01 +0000 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] is the ff subject o vat? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <191BB738-E2BF-4001-B258-017333DDB73E@atos.net> Dear Stefano Will do So Best. Claire. Claire LE FLOCH Group Head of Atos legal Intellectual Property T +33685810694 > Le 15 juil. 2016 ? 13:16, stefano de panfilis a ?crit : > > dear claire, > > can you clarify this point according to the legal form we chose (verein)? > this is quite an important info for decisons of the bod about the way to fund the ff. > > ciao, > stefano > > -- > Stefano De Panfilis > Chief Innovation Officer > Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. > via Riccardo Morandi 32 > 00148 Roma > Italy > > tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 > tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 > fax: +39-068307-4200 > cell: +39-335-7542-567 > skype: depa01 > twitter: @depa01 > From claire.le-floch at atos.net Fri Jul 15 15:12:59 2016 From: claire.le-floch at atos.net (LE FLOCH, CLAIRE) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:12:59 +0000 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] is the ff subject o vat? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Stefano, I will do so. Best regards, Claire. 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D - Assago (Mi) Tel. +39-0287002425 Mob. +39-334 6784288 www.eng.it ________________________________ Da: fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [mailto:fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org] Per conto di stefano de panfilis Inviato: luned? 18 luglio 2016 18:37 A: fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Oggetto: Re: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes of today dear all, as promised here it is a new version of the bylaws which i made on top of the claire version including in it all the last decisions we made. i also went also through both versions to check for inconsistencies and open points. you'll get two files one with all the comments and revisions and and one "clean" as it holds only relevant active comments. i suggest to use the latter when providing your fine tuning comments. i'm reminding you that this friday we will have our meeting as planned (starting 9:30) to go through all the eventual comments. i kindly ask you to circulate your comments by wednesday eob to allow all to review them. in some minutes i'll forward you also the contributors agreement. ciao, stefano 2016-07-13 11:19 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis >: dear all, first of all let me congratulate you all for the great work as now we have the final draft in our hands! attached you have the minutes of the today call and the current version of the bylaws with the last actions (basically integration in the claire version and the revision of the apache contributor license agreement) which i'll within this friday eob. then all to read it and provide comments, if any, to be analysed at the next meeting (22nd july usual time) if needed. then it is the turn of the bod to procede with the ff registration. ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Thu Jul 21 10:12:54 2016 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 10:12:54 +0200 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes of today In-Reply-To: <60c89ea2-6392-32f9-3fb7-bc2e7700066a@telefonica.com> References: <60c89ea2-6392-32f9-3fb7-bc2e7700066a@telefonica.com> Message-ID: dear juanjo, thank you for your contribution on the crucial aspect of the cla. i'd like to clarify two points: 1. the cla is not part of the bylaws, so your suggestion on the matter is already in place (eventually tomorrow we have to be sure the wording is clear on the matter). 2. the critical aspect your are introducing which for sure requires some additional thougth, is about the ownership of the whole when contributions from other develeopers, other than those represented by the ge owner, are provided. this is actually partially covered in the ipr article, but for sure tomorrow we have to find the correct wording for this important aspect. i'm kindly ask here our attorney friends, in particular celine who initially provided the first text about ipr, to provide some text here before the meeting if she can. ciao, stefano 2016-07-20 1:13 GMT+02:00 Juanjo Hierro : > Dear all, > > I believe that definition of a "Contribution License Agreement (CLA)" > has to be more carefully analyzed. > > As you may know, and if you don't know it is important to know it, there > is no concrete open source license that is enforced for products > contributed as open source reference implementation of FIWARE GE > specifications (FIWARE GEris). Thus, some FIWARE GEris are licensed under > permissive open source licenses such as Apache v2 while others are licensed > under licenses like AGPLv3. The rationale for this was to lower the > barriers of contribution by organizations owning a product which has the > potential to become a FIWARE GEri. > > The Apache CLA was defined considering that contributions were to open > source code licensed under an Apache license. Therefore, I would not take > for granted that the actual wording of a CLA based on the Apache CLA can > work with any other open source license. We may need to carefully > analyzed that. > > On the other hand ... should we come with a single CLA and force FIWARE > GEri original owners to adopt it when we are not forcing them to adopt a > concrete open source license ? > > While I believe that it makes sense to put as a requirement for FIWARE > GEri owners that a CLA has to be in place and maybe establish some > requirements such CLA should meet, I'm not that sure whether it makes sense > to force them to adopt a CLA (and in some cases replace the existing one > they have defined). > > Last but not least, an important requirement to put in place is that > FIWARE GEri original owners should be able to retain, based on the clauses > of the associated CLA, ownership on the whole software, considering > co-ownership of third-party contributions. This would allow that at least > there is some entity that is able to take decisions that may affect the > whole software for the benefit of the FIWARE Community (e.g., change the > open source license). I believe, on the other hand, that asking that IPRs > are transferred or even shared with the FIWARE Foundation may become again > a barrier for contribution. Indeed, I see it difficult that organizations > contributing some of the FIWARE GEris in FIWARE (e.g., CKAN, Kurento, ...) > will share the IPRs of their products to the FIWARE Foundation. > > To avoid blocking finalization of the Bylaws, I would go for adding > language that simply states that FIWARE GEri owners have to have a CLA in > place and maybe establish the requirements such CLAs have to meet. If we > later on, during operations of the FIWARE Foundation, arrive with a CLA > wording that can work with all approved open source licenses, we can always > udptate the bylaws. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > On 18/07/16 19:21, stefano de panfilis wrote: > > dear all, > > please find attached the contribution agreement license. > as agreed it comes from the proposed apache foundation version 2.0. > > imho art 7 should be changed as it in contrast with the fiware policy > about geri. > > ciao, > stefano > > 2016-07-18 18:36 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis > : > >> dear all, >> >> as promised here it is a new version of the bylaws which i made on top of >> the claire version including in it all the last decisions we made. i also >> went also through both versions to check for inconsistencies and open >> points. >> >> you'll get two files one with all the comments and revisions and and one >> "clean" as it holds only relevant active comments. i suggest to use the >> latter when providing your fine tuning comments. >> >> i'm reminding you that this friday we will have our meeting as planned >> (starting 9:30) to go through all the eventual comments. i kindly ask you >> to circulate your comments by wednesday eob to allow all to review them. >> >> in some minutes i'll forward you also the contributors agreement. >> >> ciao, >> stefano >> >> 2016-07-13 11:19 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis < >> stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>: >> >>> dear all, >>> >>> first of all let me congratulate you all for the great work as now we >>> have the final draft in our hands! >>> >>> attached you have the minutes of the today call and the current version >>> of the bylaws with the last actions (basically integration in the claire >>> version and the revision of the apache contributor license agreement) which >>> i'll within this friday eob. >>> >>> then all to read it and provide comments, if any, to be analysed at the >>> next meeting (22nd july usual time) if needed. then it is the turn of the >>> bod to procede with the ff registration. >>> >>> ciao, >>> stefano >>> >>> -- >>> Stefano De Panfilis >>> Chief Innovation Officer >>> Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. >>> via Riccardo Morandi 32 >>> 00148 Roma >>> Italy >>> >>> tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 >>> tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 >>> fax: +39-068307-4200 >>> cell: +39-335-7542-567 >>> skype: depa01 >>> twitter: @depa01 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stefano De Panfilis >> Chief Innovation Officer >> Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. >> via Riccardo Morandi 32 >> 00148 Roma >> Italy >> >> tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 >> tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 >> fax: +39-068307-4200 >> cell: +39-335-7542-567 >> skype: depa01 >> twitter: @depa01 >> >> > > > -- > Stefano De Panfilis > Chief Innovation Officer > Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. > via Riccardo Morandi 32 > 00148 Roma > Italy > > tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 > tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 > fax: +39-068307-4200 > cell: +39-335-7542-567 > skype: depa01 > twitter: @depa01 > > > > _______________________________________________ > FIWARE-Foundation-legal mailing listFIWARE-Foundation-legal at lists.fiware.orghttps://lists.fiware.org/listinfo/fiware-foundation-legal > > > > ------------------------------ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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URL: From sylvie.denarie at orange.com Thu Jul 21 10:29:40 2016 From: sylvie.denarie at orange.com (sylvie.denarie at orange.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 08:29:40 +0000 Subject: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes of today In-Reply-To: References: <60c89ea2-6392-32f9-3fb7-bc2e7700066a@telefonica.com> Message-ID: <18793_1469089781_579087F5_18793_4729_3_B833C1F7DFE286498DC7D54F2AA1388411CB8C9C@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Hello Stefano, C?line, our IP legal specialist, is on vacation and will be back the 25th of July. Then she will not attend our Friday?s meeting and will not be in a position to provide text before such meeting. We can study this point with her on her return. Best regards Sylvie De : fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [mailto:fiware-foundation-legal-bounces at lists.fiware.org] De la part de stefano de panfilis Envoy? : jeudi 21 juillet 2016 10:13 ? : Juanjo Hierro Cc : fiware-foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org Objet : Re: [FIWARE-Foundation-Legal-TaskForce] minutes of today dear juanjo, thank you for your contribution on the crucial aspect of the cla. i'd like to clarify two points: 1. the cla is not part of the bylaws, so your suggestion on the matter is already in place (eventually tomorrow we have to be sure the wording is clear on the matter). 2. the critical aspect your are introducing which for sure requires some additional thougth, is about the ownership of the whole when contributions from other develeopers, other than those represented by the ge owner, are provided. this is actually partially covered in the ipr article, but for sure tomorrow we have to find the correct wording for this important aspect. i'm kindly ask here our attorney friends, in particular celine who initially provided the first text about ipr, to provide some text here before the meeting if she can. ciao, stefano 2016-07-20 1:13 GMT+02:00 Juanjo Hierro >: Dear all, I believe that definition of a "Contribution License Agreement (CLA)" has to be more carefully analyzed. As you may know, and if you don't know it is important to know it, there is no concrete open source license that is enforced for products contributed as open source reference implementation of FIWARE GE specifications (FIWARE GEris). Thus, some FIWARE GEris are licensed under permissive open source licenses such as Apache v2 while others are licensed under licenses like AGPLv3. The rationale for this was to lower the barriers of contribution by organizations owning a product which has the potential to become a FIWARE GEri. The Apache CLA was defined considering that contributions were to open source code licensed under an Apache license. Therefore, I would not take for granted that the actual wording of a CLA based on the Apache CLA can work with any other open source license. We may need to carefully analyzed that. On the other hand ... should we come with a single CLA and force FIWARE GEri original owners to adopt it when we are not forcing them to adopt a concrete open source license ? While I believe that it makes sense to put as a requirement for FIWARE GEri owners that a CLA has to be in place and maybe establish some requirements such CLA should meet, I'm not that sure whether it makes sense to force them to adopt a CLA (and in some cases replace the existing one they have defined). Last but not least, an important requirement to put in place is that FIWARE GEri original owners should be able to retain, based on the clauses of the associated CLA, ownership on the whole software, considering co-ownership of third-party contributions. This would allow that at least there is some entity that is able to take decisions that may affect the whole software for the benefit of the FIWARE Community (e.g., change the open source license). I believe, on the other hand, that asking that IPRs are transferred or even shared with the FIWARE Foundation may become again a barrier for contribution. Indeed, I see it difficult that organizations contributing some of the FIWARE GEris in FIWARE (e.g., CKAN, Kurento, ...) will share the IPRs of their products to the FIWARE Foundation. To avoid blocking finalization of the Bylaws, I would go for adding language that simply states that FIWARE GEri owners have to have a CLA in place and maybe establish the requirements such CLAs have to meet. If we later on, during operations of the FIWARE Foundation, arrive with a CLA wording that can work with all approved open source licenses, we can always udptate the bylaws. Best regards, -- Juanjo On 18/07/16 19:21, stefano de panfilis wrote: dear all, please find attached the contribution agreement license. as agreed it comes from the proposed apache foundation version 2.0. imho art 7 should be changed as it in contrast with the fiware policy about geri. ciao, stefano 2016-07-18 18:36 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis >: dear all, as promised here it is a new version of the bylaws which i made on top of the claire version including in it all the last decisions we made. i also went also through both versions to check for inconsistencies and open points. you'll get two files one with all the comments and revisions and and one "clean" as it holds only relevant active comments. i suggest to use the latter when providing your fine tuning comments. i'm reminding you that this friday we will have our meeting as planned (starting 9:30) to go through all the eventual comments. i kindly ask you to circulate your comments by wednesday eob to allow all to review them. in some minutes i'll forward you also the contributors agreement. ciao, stefano 2016-07-13 11:19 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis >: dear all, first of all let me congratulate you all for the great work as now we have the final draft in our hands! attached you have the minutes of the today call and the current version of the bylaws with the last actions (basically integration in the claire version and the revision of the apache contributor license agreement) which i'll within this friday eob. then all to read it and provide comments, if any, to be analysed at the next meeting (22nd july usual time) if needed. then it is the turn of the bod to procede with the ff registration. ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 skype: depa01 twitter: @depa01 _______________________________________________ FIWARE-Foundation-legal mailing list FIWARE-Foundation-legal at lists.fiware.org https://lists.fiware.org/listinfo/fiware-foundation-legal ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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