dear juanjo, thank you for your contribution on the crucial aspect of the cla. i'd like to clarify two points: 1. the cla is not part of the bylaws, so your suggestion on the matter is already in place (eventually tomorrow we have to be sure the wording is clear on the matter). 2. the critical aspect your are introducing which for sure requires some additional thougth, is about the ownership of the whole when contributions from other develeopers, other than those represented by the ge owner, are provided. this is actually partially covered in the ipr article, but for sure tomorrow we have to find the correct wording for this important aspect. i'm kindly ask here our attorney friends, in particular celine who initially provided the first text about ipr, to provide some text here before the meeting if she can. ciao, stefano 2016-07-20 1:13 GMT+02:00 Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>: > Dear all, > > I believe that definition of a "Contribution License Agreement (CLA)" > has to be more carefully analyzed. > > As you may know, and if you don't know it is important to know it, there > is no concrete open source license that is enforced for products > contributed as open source reference implementation of FIWARE GE > specifications (FIWARE GEris). Thus, some FIWARE GEris are licensed under > permissive open source licenses such as Apache v2 while others are licensed > under licenses like AGPLv3. The rationale for this was to lower the > barriers of contribution by organizations owning a product which has the > potential to become a FIWARE GEri. > > The Apache CLA was defined considering that contributions were to open > source code licensed under an Apache license. Therefore, I would not take > for granted that the actual wording of a CLA based on the Apache CLA can > work with any other open source license. We may need to carefully > analyzed that. > > On the other hand ... should we come with a single CLA and force FIWARE > GEri original owners to adopt it when we are not forcing them to adopt a > concrete open source license ? > > While I believe that it makes sense to put as a requirement for FIWARE > GEri owners that a CLA has to be in place and maybe establish some > requirements such CLA should meet, I'm not that sure whether it makes sense > to force them to adopt a CLA (and in some cases replace the existing one > they have defined). > > Last but not least, an important requirement to put in place is that > FIWARE GEri original owners should be able to retain, based on the clauses > of the associated CLA, ownership on the whole software, considering > co-ownership of third-party contributions. This would allow that at least > there is some entity that is able to take decisions that may affect the > whole software for the benefit of the FIWARE Community (e.g., change the > open source license). I believe, on the other hand, that asking that IPRs > are transferred or even shared with the FIWARE Foundation may become again > a barrier for contribution. Indeed, I see it difficult that organizations > contributing some of the FIWARE GEris in FIWARE (e.g., CKAN, Kurento, ...) > will share the IPRs of their products to the FIWARE Foundation. > > To avoid blocking finalization of the Bylaws, I would go for adding > language that simply states that FIWARE GEri owners have to have a CLA in > place and maybe establish the requirements such CLAs have to meet. If we > later on, during operations of the FIWARE Foundation, arrive with a CLA > wording that can work with all approved open source licenses, we can always > udptate the bylaws. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > On 18/07/16 19:21, stefano de panfilis wrote: > > dear all, > > please find attached the contribution agreement license. > as agreed it comes from the proposed apache foundation version 2.0. > > imho art 7 should be changed as it in contrast with the fiware policy > about geri. > > ciao, > stefano > > 2016-07-18 18:36 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it> > : > >> dear all, >> >> as promised here it is a new version of the bylaws which i made on top of >> the claire version including in it all the last decisions we made. i also >> went also through both versions to check for inconsistencies and open >> points. >> >> you'll get two files one with all the comments and revisions and and one >> "clean" as it holds only relevant active comments. i suggest to use the >> latter when providing your fine tuning comments. >> >> i'm reminding you that this friday we will have our meeting as planned >> (starting 9:30) to go through all the eventual comments. i kindly ask you >> to circulate your comments by wednesday eob to allow all to review them. >> >> in some minutes i'll forward you also the contributors agreement. >> >> ciao, >> stefano >> >> 2016-07-13 11:19 GMT+02:00 stefano de panfilis < >> <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>: >> >>> dear all, >>> >>> first of all let me congratulate you all for the great work as now we >>> have the final draft in our hands! >>> >>> attached you have the minutes of the today call and the current version >>> of the bylaws with the last actions (basically integration in the claire >>> version and the revision of the apache contributor license agreement) which >>> i'll within this friday eob. >>> >>> then all to read it and provide comments, if any, to be analysed at the >>> next meeting (22nd july usual time) if needed. then it is the turn of the >>> bod to procede with the ff registration. >>> >>> ciao, >>> stefano >>> >>> -- >>> Stefano De Panfilis >>> Chief Innovation Officer >>> Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. >>> via Riccardo Morandi 32 >>> 00148 Roma >>> Italy >>> >>> tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 >>> tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 >>> fax: +39-068307-4200 >>> cell: +39-335-7542-567 >>> skype: depa01 >>> twitter: @depa01 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Stefano De Panfilis >> Chief Innovation Officer >> Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. >> via Riccardo Morandi 32 >> 00148 Roma >> Italy >> >> tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 >> tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 >> fax: +39-068307-4200 >> cell: +39-335-7542-567 >> skype: depa01 >> twitter: @depa01 >> >> > > > -- > Stefano De Panfilis > Chief Innovation Officer > Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. > via Riccardo Morandi 32 > 00148 Roma > Italy > > tel (direct): +39-06-8759-4253 > tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 > fax: +39-068307-4200 > cell: +39-335-7542-567 > skype: depa01 > twitter: @depa01 > > > > _______________________________________________ > FIWARE-Foundation-legal mailing listFIWARE-Foundation-legal at lists.fiware.orghttps://lists.fiware.org/listinfo/fiware-foundation-legal > > > > ------------------------------ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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