Dear Miguel, I know that the scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, but honestly we don't need to become OpenStack setup expert, this will not give us any added value, it's useless ad out of topic for us (to become a cloud provider it's not our ambition...). As I wrote before, we already use OpenStack "as a service" (namely via API) in several other cloud providers, in this project we need to integrate our platform with the *actual *and *real*, FIWARE *cloud infrastructure* in order to *stress* it, *evaluate* it, *compare* it and obtain KPIs about its performances and reliability. In a nutshell, in our project we need to investigate the possibility to use the FIWARE cloud infrastructure as a *public cloud* instead of Amazon, or Google Compute, or Azure, or RackSpace, etc. To do that, we need to test "what's under the hood" (physical nodes, networking, etc) not OpenStack (which is an on-top software layer we already know it's a good product...). Hope this mail can clarify our needs. Again, thank you for your support! BR A. ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920 skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy www.cloudesire.com | info at cloudesire.com twitter: www.twitter.com/cloudesire t +39 050877088 | f +39 0508755498 ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com> wrote: > Dear Andrea, > > I understand but let me clarify that Scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, > nothing precludes from taking the necessary cloud GEs and installing them > wherever, this would create a small clone of FIWARE Lab (what you call "the > FIWARE cloud"). It would not a make a difference. Then, you could invoke > the services in your infra from different servers to replicate the > escenario. > > Let me explore scenario 1 and then we'll see > > Regards, > > Miguel > > > > > El 05/02/2016 a las 16:43, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió: > > Dear Miguel, > > thanks a lot for your response. > > I understand that our request could appears as "exotic", but our primary > goal in the "SaaS-Fi" project consists exactly to evaluate - from > a technical and also business point of view - the reliability of the "IaaS > GE" and the related FIWARE cloud, using it specifically "as a public cloud > provider" (that means instead of, and/or compared with: AWS, Azure, GCE, > etc.). > > This require to use the OpenStack APIs (namely in a very "IaaS mode"), > instead of the FIWARE Lab interface (namely in a "PaaS mode"). > > For this reason, you understand that your scenario 2 (we create a cloud > environment on our own on our infrastructure to do this) is not an option, > because in that way we doesn't really use the FIWARE cloud (but only > OpenStack, that we already know... very well...). > > We hope for the scenario 2, and for a quick response, because we need to > respect strict project reporting deadlines... > > Thank you again, > BR > A. > > > > > > > ====================================================== > > Andrea Vecchi > CTO > > mobile +39 349 6379920 > skype: andreavecchi > > ClouDesire Srl > Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy > www.cloudesire.com | <info at cloudesire.com>info at cloudesire.com > twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire>www.twitter.com/cloudesire > t +39 050877088 | f +39 0508755498 > > ====================================================== > > Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni > contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del > destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, > La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, > dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie > > This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain > confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or > authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, > disclose or take any action based on this message or any information > herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the > sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for > your cooperation. > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < > <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com> > miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com> wrote: > >> Dear Andrea, >> >> This request is unusual. FIWARE Lab is used via a portal that we expose >> on the internet for the provision on virtual infrastructure. People would >> experiment with FIWARE technologies inside such VMs. This is the usage >> scenario that we have always envisioned. >> >> What you are asking for is somewhat "exotic" which does not mean that it >> out of the question, we need to see what to do with this. I wonder if the >> people in charge of FIWARE Lab have offered this in the past as a >> possibility, I am not aware of it. >> >> The are two scenarios as I see it: >> >> - Creating a community user and granting you access to the services >> via REST interfaces, as you request. >> - The obvious alternative is you creating a cloud environment on your >> own on your infrastructure to do this, but then you would not be benefiting >> of FIWARE Lab. >> >> Please be aware that FIWARE Lab is a test environment where accounts are >> volatile (they expire and all instantiated resources get irreversibly >> deleted) >> >> I'll try to get hold of the Chief Architect and Leader of FIWARE (Juanjo >> Hierro) to see what he thinks. This may take some time. >> >> Regards, >> >> Miguel >> >> >> El 27/01/2016 a las 14:32, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió: >> >> Dear sirs, >> >> our company is working on a project called "SaaSi-FI", in the SOUL-FI >> Round B call. >> >> We need to integrate in our platform the IaaS Resource Management GE. >> >> ClouDesire, our platform, is a cloud-agnostic marketplace where >> independent software vendors can offer their products (web applications) which >> can be purchased by the end-users. >> >> When an application is sold, ClouDesire performs a self-deploy on a >> selected (by the end-user) cloud provider; at the end of the deployment >> process a running instance of the purchased application becomes >> available on the cloud for the end-user. >> >> Our purpose in the "SaaSi-FI" project is to leverage and use the IaaS GE >> as a "public provider" for ClouDesire. >> >> For this reason, we need to use the IaaS GE's API in order to >> programmatically create VMs in your datacenter. >> >> Just to avoid misunderstandings: we don't need to install our own IaaS >> Resource Management GE instance somewhere, we would simply "use it" >> as-a-service. At he same time, we don't need to install our application >> in the FIWARE Lab Nodes. >> >> As I said before, we would simply treat FIWARE as a "public provider". >> >> That means that we need to use the OpenStack API exposed in the FIWARE >> Lab in order to programmatically deploy VMs on demand. >> >> The questions are: >> - where is the API endpoint? >> - what kind of credentials we can use to access the API? >> - are there some limitations (for example to the number of deployables >> VMs, or to the reachability of the deployed VMs)? >> >> Thank you in advance, >> BR >> >> >> >> ====================================================== >> >> Andrea Vecchi >> CTO >> >> mobile +39 349 6379920 >> skype: andreavecchi >> >> ClouDesire Srl >> Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy >> www.cloudesire.com | <info at cloudesire.com>info at cloudesire.com >> twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire>www.twitter.com/cloudesire >> t +39 050877088 | f +39 0508755498 <%2B39%200508755498> >> >> ====================================================== >> >> Ai sensi del D. 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