[Fiware-iot] Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!

Fermín Galán Márquez fermin.galanmarquez at telefonica.com
Wed Mar 25 10:56:46 CET 2015


Hi,

I think that starting tomorrow the IoT slot with an introduction to the 3 scenarios (showing them in one slide per scenario) as Carlos suggests will definitively be a very good idea in order to reduce the level of confusion in the audience that we perceived on Tuesday.

Best regards,

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Fermín

El 25/03/2015 a las 9:48, CARLOS RALLI UCENDO escribió:
Thanks,

Please, to avoid confusing the audience (as now we present all IoT Backend GEs) remember to say in the beginning which typical use-case scenario (of the architecture Wiki) you are covering. You may use the diagrams in the Wiki as a first slide to show the people the two typical scenarios and which one your GE is currently referred to.

For the remaining presentations on Thu, this means Daniel is presenting an IoT Agent related to Scenario I and Flavio is presenting the IoT Broker related to scenario II.

Here you find some questions&answers  regarding the scenarios if someone asks ?

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1. Are there two architectures in IoT ?

No, there is only one architecture (point them IoT Architecture in the FIWARE Wiki). However in FIWARE you are free to pick up components as you need and so far the two typical use cases related to IoT GEs have emerged. These are the ones we present.

2. Should I use Scenario I or Scenario II ?

So far the most tested one is the Scenario I, which means using any IoT southbound technology that is translated into NGSI (via BE Dev Man IoT Agents) so that devices and their observations are automatically pushed as NGSI entities to a ContextBroker. Actuation is also addressed in this scenario.

Scenario II is currently under development and will provide the functionality of combining devices into "Things” plus semantic discovery. It will initially work with NGSI native devices or gateways.
Actuation is also considered but needs further testing.

3. Then I cannot use all IoT GEs at once ?

Once we conclude Scenario II testing, an Scenario III is planned too (end of Release 5, see it in the Wiki too). This one mixes Scenarios I and II so combination of devices and semantic discovery are enabled for both NGSI and non-NGSI devices.

4. The IoT Architecture section now is clear but the FIWARE catalogue does not refer to any scenario or provide the new IoT Agents.
Yes, we are working on that in the following weeks, together with the “Implementation” section (a.k.a "Materializing the FIWARE vision")
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De: "t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk>" <t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk>>
Fecha: miércoles, 25 de marzo de 2015 09:16
Para: "flavio.cirillo at neclab.eu<mailto:flavio.cirillo at neclab.eu>" <flavio.cirillo at neclab.eu<mailto:flavio.cirillo at neclab.eu>>
CC: Leandro Guillen <leandro.guillen at imdea.org<mailto:leandro.guillen at imdea.org>>, DANIEL MORAN JIMENEZ <daniel.moranjimenez at telefonica.com<mailto:daniel.moranjimenez at telefonica.com>>, "thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com>" <thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com>>, Carlos Ralli <carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com<mailto:carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com>>
Asunto: RE: Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!

Good morning,

Yesterday we presented the BDM and IoT Discovery in the IoT session, and for Thursday we plan to present IoT Agents and IoT Broker.

Flavio, as you probably noticed, my flu was getting worse yesterday, and this morning I won’t be able to make it to the venue. I will try my best to attend the labs session in the afternoon. In the meanwhile, if you need any help with the material for tomorrow or the exercises let me know.

Best regards,
Tarek



From: Flavio Cirillo [mailto:flavio.cirillo at neclab.eu]
Sent: 23 March 2015 22:16
To: Elsaleh T Mr (Electronic Eng)
Subject: Re: Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!

Hi Tarek,

me with Leandro and Daniel agreed that you and Leandro are sharing the Tuesday slot and me and Daniel the one on Thursday. This because NEC IoT-Broker is relying on Surrey IoT-Discovery and Daniel talk is sequentially to the Leandro presentation.

Let us know if you also agree on it, or we can change tomorrow on the fly (I think).

BTW, the hotel is the Pullman Hotel and it is more than near to the Brussels Zuid, it is actually the same building, at the east end of the train stration.

See you tomorrow
Best Regards
Flavio
On 23.03.2015 20:56, t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Flavio,

Ok then, see you tomorrow morning.

By the way, just so I don’t get lost …the venue is in the Pullman Hotel near Brussels Zuid train station, right?

Best regards,
Tarek



From: Flavio Cirillo [mailto:flavio.cirillo at neclab.eu]
Sent: 23 March 2015 16:53
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Cc: carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com<mailto:carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com>; leandro.guillen at imdea.org<mailto:leandro.guillen at imdea.org>
Subject: Re: Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!

Hi Tarek, all,

from my side it is fine half slot. I can summarize the talk and focus more on very practical points on IoT-Broker. So it would be on Thursday, right?

As soon Tarek is here we can also have a short meeting, maybe tomorrow morning, what do you think?

Best Regards
Flavio



On 23.03.2015 17:43, t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Dani,
If this is the case, then from an architectural point of view, I think backend device should have the first slot, and then the other would be IoT Discovery + IoT Broker.
....unless Flavio needs more time than half a slot.
With regards to exercises, I think they should be introduced in the lab sessions.
What does everybody think?

Best regards, Tarek

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From: DANIEL MORAN JIMENEZ <daniel.moranjimenez at telefonica.com><mailto:daniel.moranjimenez at telefonica.com>
Date: 23/03/2015 16:15 (GMT+00:00)
To: "Elsaleh T Mr (Electronic Eng)" <t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk><mailto:t.elsaleh at surrey.ac.uk>,Stefan.Gessler at neclab.eu,thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:Stefan.Gessler at neclab.eu,thierry.nagellen at orange.com>
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Subject: Re: Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!


Hi all,

Our idea was to present the Backend Device Management and the IoT Agents as we did in Madrid, and to give the same set of exercises for this developer's week. If you are in the Developer Week, we can talk about it in person and try to share the slots (unless there are further notice about what it is expected to show in the courses).

Best regards, Dani

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Asunto: Re: Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!

Hi all,
Flavio and I had an initial plan to share the slot for each session. To be honest we were not aware of Leandro and Daniel.
Leandro/Daniel, can you please confirm which GE you will be representing? Would you be able to share a slot?
I am planning to arrive at Brussels tonight.
Best regards, Tarek

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Date: 23/03/2015 15:04 (GMT+00:00)
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Subject: Confusion at the FIWARE developers week !!!


Dear Thierry,

I just got a note from Flavio, who is at the FIWARE Developers Week.
He told me that neither Tarek nor himself are scheduled for a talk on the IoT chapter there. And indeed, if you look at the agenda online, you’ll find IMDEA and Telefonica covering the two hours:

http://www.fiware.org/event/fiware-developers-week-brussels/

Can you shed a light on this?
Maybe they simply copy-pasted the final agenda from the Madrid event, but also this is not really an optimal promotion of the project. In this case a quick update would be great.

Who actually is the organizer to talk to?

Best  Stefan


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