[Fiware-lab-help] State of FI-Ware infrastructure?

[Daniele Santoro]

Dear Jacob,

I’m glad to know you received good support from our team and I thank you for your comments and suggestions. What I can say is that managers read the mailing list therefore they are aware of your comments.

Regards,
Daniele

On 28 Jan 2015, at 12:26, Jacob Oscarson <jacob at plexical.com> wrote:

> Hello Daniele,
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> 
> Yesterday I was contacted by a person from one of the regions here in
> Sweden and I received _very_ comprehensive guiding in setting up a
> basic VM. Thank you very much for that contact, it was very valuable.
> 
> There is one thing to keep in mind though, a part from the question
> about if it's possible to deploy to your cloud. It took me, a senior
> developer and the supporting person 2 hours to simply get a very basic
> VM with proper networking and security running (that makes it 4
> senior-level work hours worth in time).
> 
> That was the kind of time frames used when doing data center work up
> to the mid 90's. If your overall system requires that much and
> qualified work for tasks that e.g. Digital Ocean's infrastructure can
> handle with ~20 minutes and one junior developer you have a problem on
> an economic level, not the technical level. Our current times require
> efficiencies orders of magnitudes much faster or this platform won't
> have much chances of becoming relevant in a fast contemporary
> world. I'm sorry to say that I can't offer you any easy suggestions to
> improve here and now but the solution will eventually need to include
> a large amount of streamlining on every level of the platform done by
> proffesionals that have real-world commercial experience of PAAS
> services of this type.
> 
> I for one actually hope that a project like FI-Ware could succeed, but
> I get worried when I try it out in practice.
> 
> Also, I realise that you are probably personally not responsible for
> the totality of this, my points might very well be more suitable for
> one of your managers. Please forward the longer paragraph (the 4th) to
> one of them in that case.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jacob Oscarson
> CTO Plexical AB (implements 'Pleathub' Fi-Ware project)
> 
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Daniele Santoro <daniele.santoro at create-net.org> wrote:
> Dear Jacob,
> 
> Unfortunately as you mentioned Spain region is currently out of resources and the pop-up message suggest to use other regions with cautions since they are under configuration and testing. Moreover we had a maintenance intervention during last two days and the overall system was not so reliable.
> 
> I’ve done a couple of test in Berlin and I was able to start an instance configuring the network appropriately. Berlin is using Neutron to manage networks and you need to follow this steps before start an instance from an image: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27543127/deploy-vm-in-fiware-lab-nodes-with-neutron/27543408#27543408.
> Currently in Berlin they have no more public IP and for this reason I can suggest you to have another try in the following regions which should work well:
> 
> - Budapest: just tried successfully to start an instance without configuring network and routers. Simply allocate/associate a floating IP to your instance.
> - Stockholm: At this time they don’t have public IPs but I know that today they should increase the pool.
> 
> Hope this hints will help you.
> 
> Best,
> Daniele
> 
> 
> On 26 Jan 2015, at 17:26, Jacob Oscarson <jacob at plexical.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Jacob Oscarson, lead developer for a project tasked with developing
> > services using FI-Ware components here. We are scheduled to deliver a
> > system based on FI-Ware's GE components but after the third week of
> > difficulties with even launching a fairly simple WM I'm becoming
> > increasingly concerned about the state of the FI-Ware infrastructure:
> >
> > Here is my report for 2015-01-26:
> >
> > I was greeted by a message that the Spain region i out of resources
> > for the third week in a row.
> >
> > First attempt, in the "Zurich" region:
> >
> >   1. I attempt to allocate a "floating IP", but it fails with this
> >   message:
> >
> >   Error allocating IP address. Cause: 500 Error
> >   {"computeFault": {"message": "The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation.", "code": 500}}
> >
> >
> > Second attempt, Berlin:
> >
> >   1. I allocated 1 "floating IP" from the "ext-net-federation" pool
> >   2. I attempted open port 22 (to gain a SSH login on the VM) in
> >   security group "default"
> >   3. I created a network
> >   4. I try to create an Ubuntu 14 VM, assign it's IP, security group
> >   and network, but when I try to launch it halts in an error state
> >   with the following message:
> >
> >   Error allocating IP address. Cause: 500 Error
> >   {"computeFault": {"message": "The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation.", "code": 500}}
> >
> > Third attempt, Stockholm:
> >
> >   1. I allocated 1 "floating IP" from the "XIFIpublicACREO" pool
> >   2. I attempted to open port 22 (see Berlin description)
> >   3. I created a network
> >   4. I try to create an Ubuntu 14 VM, assign it's IP, security group
> >   and network. When I launch, it is marked as being in an "ERROR"
> >   state after a while, I can't find an error message more than that.
> >
> > Walking through these web-UI's are very time-consuming and I can't find
> > any information about which regions that are supposed to be
> > working. The UI informs me that the "Spain" region is down (and has
> > been for the entire month), but it doesn't say anything about which
> > regions are supposed to be running.
> >
> > Your UI seems to have ~17 regions. Painstakingly walking through all
> > of them (exept Spain) every week to try to launch a VM (let alone one
> > of your packaged component containers) is not a viable way of staying
> > on our schedule.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jacob Oscarson
> > Technologist Plexical AB (develops FI-Ware project "Pleathub")
> >
> > --
> > CTO/lead developer for the Juntoo project,
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> >
> > E-mail: jacob at plexical.com
> > Voice SE: +46 (0) 708 62 85 45
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> CTO/lead developer for the Juntoo project,
> Add feedback on live websites: https://juntoo.co
> 
> E-mail: jacob at plexical.com
> Voice SE: +46 (0) 708 62 85 45
> Twitter: @jacob414
> Angellist: https://angel.co/jacob414

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