i would say that the safe threashold is icehouse. tricks may work for havana and grizlly but tricks do not fall in "safe" until we test. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Juanjo Hierro < juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote: > Gentlemen, > > I need to know where to put a safe threshold (Grizzly,Havana, IceHouse, > ...), so that last paragraph of Step 4 changes and I mention that all > legacy users who get upgraded to become Community Users but were hosted on > nodes not in version XXX of OpenStack or will have to migrate to other > nodes (as per recommendation given in response to their request for the > upgrade). > > I need this response URGENTLY. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > On 15/04/15 18:15, Álvaro Alonso wrote: > > Hi, > > today tests made by Henar in havana suggest that havana is not > compatible with v3. Federico found a post ( > https://www.mirantis.com/blog/manage-openstack-projects-using-domains-havana/) > that says it is partially compatible but we are not sure of that. > > My understanding was that every nodes had to be migrated to Icehouse, > for that reason I was only concerned by old spain node. > > @Federico, do you know haw many nodes are still Grizzly? The will be > migrated before May 1? Is it possible to decide that if a node is not > migrated to Icehouse by May 1, it will be out of the federation until it > migrates? > > BR > -- > Álvaro > > El 15 Apr 2015, a las 18:04, Juanjo Hierro < > juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> escribió: > > > > On 15/04/15 05:58, Federico Michele Facca wrote: > > Dear Juanjo, > some comments from my side: > > 1) Maurizio as XIFI coordinator, needs to be in the loop. While I agree > that some nodes - probably like some GEs developers btw - don't deserve ths > money they have been granted for the service given, any action and decision > in this direction within XIFI is beyond my role. Not sure if and how saved > money could be employed. Moved to FI-CORE? > > > I have added him. > > 2) According to a short discussion I had with Alvaro, Migration to new > IDM my affect as well other nodes still using Grizzly, this needs to be > clarified asap in order to take proper actions (i.e. Accelerate migration > plan). > > > People from UPM has to clarify this URGENTLY. I was about to send an > email to Basecamp sharing the plan (to show we are reacting and we have > setup a Recovery Task Force but I want to know to what extend I have to > modify anything in the description of the plan. > > > 3) It is very important to agree on fair, objective and not arguable > metrics to define performance. As early mentioned errors from tests due to > finished resources do not mean "bad performance" (if not this would be the > case as well for spain), this case is a more general issue related to the > tools and functions provided on top of nodes, for which we cannot account > them. > > > Agreed. That's why, a) we will only be able to measure performance > once nodes get cleaned b) we need to make sure that the tests run well (it > is my impression that some of them do not give an accurate photo of the > status) > > 4) There are nodes operating for "free", what should we do in such > cases? I would keep possibility fir user with proper role to use them, > regardeless, no financial penality can be passed over to them. > > > We should come with a way to label the different nodes and let users > take decision. Of course, there is no penalty that can be passed to > them. But certainly something we can do is to put them in quarantine. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > when the message is finalized and agreed, i can inform lab nodes. > > Best, > Federico > > ----------------------------------------- > Apologizes for mispellings. My thumb is not compatible with Android > On Apr 14, 2015 8:32 PM, "Juanjo Hierro" <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I have added Thierry Nagellen from Orange to this mailing list because >> despite he is not involved in the Task Force "per se", we are synchronized >> also with Orange overall with respect to messages to pass to the EC and >> rest of FI-PPP projects. If you believe someone else has to be in this >> list, please let me know. >> >> It has come out that deployment of the new IdM/Keystone is not feasible >> as planned. Therefore, we have to define a new plan. >> >> This morning, the TID team (including me) have had the opportunity to >> meet with the UPM team to understand the issue and we have come with an >> alternative plan for the recovery of the FIWARE Lab than the one we defined >> yesterday which sounds pretty reasonable and may help us to soon improve >> the situation. >> >> Let me summarize the plan in this email so that we are all on the same >> page. If you find some weakness/issue, please raise it. Otherwise, >> let's stick to it. Fortunately, the first steps remain the same and they >> have already been done, so we are on the right track. >> >> An important matter: I plan to send this plan to the EC tomorrow >> morning at 11:00. If you have comments, you should provide them before >> that deadline. I will also communicate this plan to FIWARE Accelerator >> projects on Basecamp as well as to Use Case projects through the FI-PPP >> mailing lists. Federico or Engineering should communicate this plan to >> organizations operating the FIWARE Lab nodes also at that time. >> >> A very sensible matter: when you review step 6 you will see that we >> cover the case in which some FIWARE Lab nodes may be put in quarantine. I >> would like to propose to the EC that those FIWARE lab nodes which are put >> into quarantine will be labeled as non-performance so they won't get the >> grant they were assigned in the XiFi Open Call, at least for the remaining >> of the XiFi project (until September). Maybe these funds can be given >> away to other partners or launch another Open Call. I would like to know >> your views on this. >> >> >> *Step 1: reminder about new user account management policies enforcement.* >> >> A first email aking existing FIWARE Lab users to accept the new user >> account management policies, also covered in the new FIWARE Lab use terms >> and conditions, was sent to all FIWARE Lab users several weeks ago. >> >> A reminder has been sent yesterday and today to current users of the >> FIWARE Lab telling them that they have until April 15th 2015 19:00 CET. >> This message will be disseminated through different means: >> >> - mailed to current users of the FIWARE Lab >> - shown in a screen at login of users of the FIWARE Lab >> - posted on Basecamp so that FIWARE accelerator projects get aware >> and can forward the remainder to SMEs/startups under their respective >> programmes >> - mailed to the FI-PPP SB and the old FI-PPP AB members so that >> coordinators/architects of the FIWARE Use Case projects can forward the >> reminder to SMEs/startups under their respective Use Case projects >> >> >> *Step 2: Increase of computing capacity in Spain-2 node* >> In parallel and starting TODAY, activities to expand the capacity of >> the recently launched Spain-2 node will be prioritized so that we reach a >> capacity of aprox 500 cores in the datacenters located in both Sevilla and >> Malaga. We expect this expansion be completed by April 20th if not >> earlier. >> >> Additionally, additional capacity (close to 500 additional cores) will >> be activated in the Spain-2 node with servers located in a new datacenter >> located in Las Palmas. Conversations are ongoing with Red.es trying to >> accelerate this process so that this additional 500 cores get available >> closer to the end of next week. >> >> >> *Step 3: New Trial users only allowed to work on Spain-2 node**. >> Limitation of number of concurrent trial users.* >> >> Changes will be implemented in the Cloud portal and the user account >> registration process/tool by UPM so that new Trial users will only see the >> Spain-2 node. In addition, Trial users will be limited to 100 Trial users. >> >> Note that the "Trial Users", until the new IdM/Keystone component is >> deployed, will need to be identified by considering the creation of their >> user account. Actually, "Trial users" will be those users who have >> created their account after April 16th. >> >> Most likely, the fact that Trial users will only be allowed to work on >> Spain will remain. The number of Trial users allowed may increase (the EC >> has shown its concern about keeping the number of Trial users too low) but >> will see. >> >> Users who try to create an account when the limit on Trial users have >> been reached, will receive a message indicating that the limit has been >> reached, inviting them to try again in two weeks (Fernando to send the >> wording for this message to UPM). >> >> This step should be implemented by this Wednesday April 15th. >> >> >> *Step 4: Freeing resources on current nodes**, giving users the ability >> to apply to become community users, asking users in Spain-1 and Prague to >> migrate* >> >> Starting April 16th, current nodes will free resources on their nodes >> (virtual infrastructure and public IP addresses allocated to users who >> didn't accept the new user account management policies). >> >> They should complete this process before April 23rd. FIWARE Lab node >> providers are aware of the current situation so they should accelerate this >> process as much as possible, trying to complete the process the sooner the >> better. Situation will be assessed on April 20th and April 23rd. It is >> expected that the status of the FIWARE Lab will improve drastically during >> the week and will become stable by April 23rd. >> >> In parallel, we will encourage legacy users (those who created their >> account before April 16th and have accepted the new terms and conditions) >> to apply for becoming community users. They should be able to submit >> their application completing an application form that will be provided to >> them and will be made available on the Cloud Portal. >> >> Those legacy users whose application is accepted and who were hosted in >> the Spain-1 or the Prague nodes will be asked to migrate their environments >> to any of the other nodes (a recommendation will be given). The Spain-1 >> and the Prague nodes will not host community users. As a result, no users >> will remain in these two nodes by May 1st. >> >> >> *Step 5: Deployment of new IdM/Keystone component and upgrading of >> Community Users*. * Migration of Spain-1 and Prague nodes to OpenStack >> Juno.* >> >> This step will start May 1st. Then, we will deploy the new version of >> the IdM/Keystone component. >> >> Users whose application to become Community Users has been approved >> will become Community Users. Environments of those Trial users who has >> overpass the 2 weeks trial period will be cleaned out. From then on, the >> new user account management policies will be in place, with the new >> IdM/keystone component supporting the ability to distinguish between kind >> of users and the nodes each will be able to get access to. >> >> In parallel, Spain-1 and Prague nodes should start their migration to >> Juno. Once they migrate, they will be made available as part of the >> federation (maybe the physical resources allocated to the Spain-1 node will >> be assigned to the Spain-2 node). >> >> >> *Step 6: Assessment of nodes in the FIWARE Lab federation. Bringing >> FIWARE Lab nodes into quarantine.* >> >> After April 23th, performance of the several nodes in the FIWARE Lab >> federation will be weekly assessed. Those nodes who exhibit a bad >> performance (instability, low response to request for help by users) will >> be put into quarantine and their users (Community Users) will be asked to >> migrate to the Spain-2 node. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> >> Coordinator and Chief Architect, FIWARE platform >> CTO Industrial IoT, Telefónica >> >> email: juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com >> twitter: @JuanjoHierro >> >> You can follow FIWARE at: >> website: http://www.fiware.org >> twitter: @FIWARE >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, >> puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso >> exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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