Hi all, I would say that we have to distinguish between a stretegic and a tactical decision (please do not mix the two): 1) Strategic: what happens after September? This is a question to be discussed and answered independently from the temporary (hopefully) problems we have at the moment. 2) Tactical: how to solve the current instability and malfunctioning of the federation. Said that, as a coach I want to know what to do with all the request that have been already approved on nodes different to Spain-2. Do I have to rollback them? This has a cost for the SMEs because probably they have to "migrate" their stuff (and we do not have any automatic procedure to do so). So a change of "strategy" should be clearly motivated explaining also why we decided to change it (new elements coming into account now that were not know one month ago). A telco is scheduled with the coaches this afternoon. Which is the message we want to convey? My 2 cents, silvio On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Federico Michele Facca < federico.facca at create-net.org> wrote: > hi, > sorry to answer so late, but the email was in my spam inbox. > > i think we should evaluate which nodes have the problem resolved and > consider them as well besides Spain-2. while for sure, we should not - > unless users really insist - assign them to a node while it has not yet > recovered (in which case they need to be patient - which is anyhow now the > case, also in Spain-2). but this should be only a temporary thing till > issues get resolved, not a permnanent one. > > i would take into consideration that what happened on thursday is not > surely responsability of the nodes. so excluding them at this stage would > sound like it's their fault, which I cannot support: it's not fair. some of > them may be crap, as we identified and, should get excluded without any > rethinking, others are not, and many of the issues they experienced are > beyond their responsability. > > said so, today at 17, me and silvio have an info day here in trento (i am > one of ther first speakers, so our presence in the afternoon call cannot > last very long). > > cheers, > federico > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Juanjo Hierro < > juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote: > >> >> Obviously, we will have to handle requests one by one and only accept >> those who ask for a number of resources that sound reasonable. >> >> I understand that, given said this, Fernando you agreed on the proposal >> (it was a little bit unclear with your wording, I have to say) >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> On 12/05/15 09:02, FERNANDO LOPEZ AGUILAR wrote: >> >> Juanjo, >> >> Agree with consider the revision of the assigning Community and Trial >> Users accounts, this should means what is the decision that we have to take >> related to the amount of resources that everyone ask from Spain2. I mean, >> it is important to know what is the policy that we want to follow in order >> to assign resources to the Community Users if everyone will be moved to >> Spain2. We will make this decision conditional on the efforts and place in >> which we have to apply them if we want to give support to all the new users >> that probably will come to Spain2. >> >> De: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> >> Fecha: Tuesday 12 May 2015 06:37 >> Para: "fiware-lab-recovery-tf at lists.fiware.org" < >> fiware-lab-recovery-tf at lists.fiware.org> >> Asunto: [Fiware-lab-recovery-tf] URGENT remediation action >> >> *IMHO, we should seriously consider to revise the "algorithm" for >> assigning Community and Trial User accounts* so that Community User >> accounts linked to FIWARE accelerator projects get assigned to the Spain-2 >> node (unless serious requirements about hosting data in a given country) >> and Trial User accounts or Community User accounts not linked to the FIWARE >> accelerator projects are assigned to the rest of nodes (maybe some space to >> be allocated in Spain if space remains). Trial Users are renewed every >> two weeks, so the fact that in September may be other different nodes will >> not be an issue with respect to them. Once the new nodes are federated, >> they may host some Community Users. *I would like to seriously discuss >> this matter in our daily confcall today. 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