dear federico and juanjo,
i also prefer option 3, but avoiding to be too punishing/negative, the
sentence should be something like:
"last updated at hh:mm:ss on dd/mm"
ciao,
stefano
2015-05-22 16:24 GMT+02:00 Federico Michele Facca <
federico.facca at create-net.org>:
>
>
> > On 22/mag/2015, at 16:17, Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Did you announce the availability of the infographic recently on
> Basecamp? Just to be on sync.
>
>
> not really, i can do in the weekend, unless you prefer to do it!
>
> >
> > To answer your question: I believe that when a node doesn't provide
> data, at least the node should be listed with either:
> > • showing a message ("unable to gather data"); or
> > • showing the last gathered data (this would require marking the
> message with some special color or note)
> > • showing a message ("unable to gather data (latest gathered data
> from <date>/<time> here)", 'here' being a link that would retrive latest
> gathered data) and then explain a the very beginning of the page that
> sometimes the nodes may not be providing data in which case the latest
> gathered data is made available but cannot be taken as accurate)
> >
> > I would personally go for option 3. I would go even for a phased
> development. First supporting 1 and then with time and resources, provide
> 3.
>
>
> we should be able to achieve 3 quite quickly, but let me check
>
> > Best regards,
> > -- Juanjo
> >
> >
> > On 20/05/15 13:37, Federico Michele Facca wrote:
> >> Hi Juanjo,
> >>
> >> a couple of input:
> >> 1) infographic is already public and it was also advertised to users
> and ec;
> >> 2) data are almost real time (5 min delay) and depends on what nodes
> provides to the monitoring layer;
> >> 3) when - for any reasons - data collector service on the node stops,
> there is a timeout of 2 hours, after that data are not showed. this
> behaviour can be changed, but we set the timeout because the overall point
> is to have a real and actual data;
> >>
> >> we ask nodes to daily check that everything is ok. but of course we do
> not have access to nodes, so we cannot restart data collector service on
> their behalf (and this is part of the karma status check).
> >>
> >> please advise what is your preferred way to handle the thing, e.g.:
> >> - live with the fact that nodes may not provide data;
> >> - enabled indefinite time caching of data when a node is not providing
> them;
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> federico
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Juanjo Hierro <
> juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote:
> >> Dear Federico,
> >>
> >> Any news?
> >>
> >> I guess we cannot show this yet because there is info missing (as an
> example, Waterford has disappeared ...)
> >>
> >> Please confirm what the status is ...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> -- Juanjo
> >>
> >> On 19/05/15 18:28, Juanjo Hierro wrote:
> >>> Dear Federico,
> >>>
> >>> I understand you have addressed this during the daily FIWARE Lab
> Recovery Task Force follow-up confcall, but I wanted to confirm that the
> Infographic tool is now ready to be made avaliable to FIWARE Lab users:
> >>> http://infographic.lab.fiware.org/
> >>>
> >>> If you agree, I would like to announce its availability. Of
> course, users should be aware of what nodes are actually working. For
> that, the fi-health dashboard tool would be available.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, I remember that we wanted to be able to show the number of
> Basic, Trial and Community users ... When do you believe that
> functionality would be available ? I would suggest we add the request to
> have this functionality implemented as an action point.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> -- Juanjo
> >>>
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> > ______________________________________________________
> >
> > Coordinator and Chief Architect, FIWARE platform
> > CTO Industrial IoT, Telefónica
> >
> > email:
> > juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com
> >
> > twitter: @JuanjoHierro
> >
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