Hi all,
we implemented something that could fit with solution 3: if a node doesn't
send data, then it is grayed and a tool tip is showed providing the
timestamp of the last update.
Please have a look here:
http://infographic.lab.fi-ware.eu//
Please let us know if it is ok and if it could be moved in production.
Best regards,
silvio
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Federico Michele Facca <
federico.facca at create-net.org> wrote:
> dear stefano and juanjo,
> attilio already fixed the APIs, he is now updating the graphics. when
> ready on the demo url, he will inform you.
>
> best,
> federico
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:39 PM, stefano de panfilis <
> stefano.depanfilis at eng.it> wrote:
>
>> dear federico and juanjo,
>>
>>
>> i also prefer option 3, but avoiding to be too punishing/negative, the
>> sentence should be something like:
>>
>> "last updated at hh:mm:ss on dd/mm"
>>
>> ciao,
>> stefano
>>
>>
>> 2015-05-22 16:24 GMT+02:00 Federico Michele Facca <
>> federico.facca at create-net.org>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 22/mag/2015, at 16:17, Juanjo Hierro <
>>> juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Did you announce the availability of the infographic recently on
>>> Basecamp? Just to be on sync.
>>>
>>>
>>> not really, i can do in the weekend, unless you prefer to do it!
>>>
>>> >
>>> > To answer your question: I believe that when a node doesn't provide
>>> data, at least the node should be listed with either:
>>> > • showing a message ("unable to gather data"); or
>>> > • showing the last gathered data (this would require marking the
>>> message with some special color or note)
>>> > • showing a message ("unable to gather data (latest gathered
>>> data from <date>/<time> here)", 'here' being a link that would retrive
>>> latest gathered data) and then explain a the very beginning of the page
>>> that sometimes the nodes may not be providing data in which case the latest
>>> gathered data is made available but cannot be taken as accurate)
>>> >
>>> > I would personally go for option 3. I would go even for a phased
>>> development. First supporting 1 and then with time and resources, provide
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>
>>> we should be able to achieve 3 quite quickly, but let me check
>>>
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > -- Juanjo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 20/05/15 13:37, Federico Michele Facca wrote:
>>> >> Hi Juanjo,
>>> >>
>>> >> a couple of input:
>>> >> 1) infographic is already public and it was also advertised to users
>>> and ec;
>>> >> 2) data are almost real time (5 min delay) and depends on what nodes
>>> provides to the monitoring layer;
>>> >> 3) when - for any reasons - data collector service on the node stops,
>>> there is a timeout of 2 hours, after that data are not showed. this
>>> behaviour can be changed, but we set the timeout because the overall point
>>> is to have a real and actual data;
>>> >>
>>> >> we ask nodes to daily check that everything is ok. but of course we
>>> do not have access to nodes, so we cannot restart data collector service on
>>> their behalf (and this is part of the karma status check).
>>> >>
>>> >> please advise what is your preferred way to handle the thing, e.g.:
>>> >> - live with the fact that nodes may not provide data;
>>> >> - enabled indefinite time caching of data when a node is not
>>> providing them;
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks,
>>> >> federico
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Juanjo Hierro <
>>> juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote:
>>> >> Dear Federico,
>>> >>
>>> >> Any news?
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess we cannot show this yet because there is info missing (as
>>> an example, Waterford has disappeared ...)
>>> >>
>>> >> Please confirm what the status is ...
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> -- Juanjo
>>> >>
>>> >> On 19/05/15 18:28, Juanjo Hierro wrote:
>>> >>> Dear Federico,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I understand you have addressed this during the daily FIWARE Lab
>>> Recovery Task Force follow-up confcall, but I wanted to confirm that the
>>> Infographic tool is now ready to be made avaliable to FIWARE Lab users:
>>> >>> http://infographic.lab.fiware.org/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you agree, I would like to announce its availability. Of
>>> course, users should be aware of what nodes are actually working. For
>>> that, the fi-health dashboard tool would be available.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> BTW, I remember that we wanted to be able to show the number of
>>> Basic, Trial and Community users ... When do you believe that
>>> functionality would be available ? I would suggest we add the request to
>>> have this functionality implemented as an action point.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -- Juanjo
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