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From: Federico Michele Facca <federico.facca at create-net.org>
Date: Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Cloud Hosting R4 requirements for FIWARE Lab nodes
To: Alex Glikson <GLIKSON at il.ibm.com>
Cc: Ezra Silvera <EZRA at il.ibm.com>, fernando <
fernando.lopezaguilar at telefonica.com>, "Hierro, Juanjo" <
juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>, Kenneth Nagin <NAGIN at il.ibm.com>, Miguel
Carrillo <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>, silvio <
silvio.cretti at create-net.org>, Stefano Depanfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it
>
hi alex,
surely the disconnected projects didn't help, but it is also about the
difference on deploying and testing in a single and then making it in
production on 18 regions, with legal constraints (user data only in spain),
security and whatever other concerns come from multi-region "production"
set-up.
regardless, i totally agree that bi-later communication should improve
(requirements may be double side). maybe we can even dedicate calls every
month?
I also agree totally for the open call, i will stress again the people
assigned to this to provide the information asap.
federico
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Alex Glikson <GLIKSON at il.ibm.com> wrote:
> Fair enough, but part of the 'status quo' (in particular, the disconnect
> from what is actually happening in the FIWARE development -- both in Cloud
> and Ops) is due to historical reasons (different projects, lack of
> communication, etc), and since now we are in a major transition ('old'
> FIWARE Lab nodes being discontinues, new ones ramping up within FI-Core
> plus the open call) -- it is the time to revisit this -- and more
> importantly, to make it more transparent.
> I am particularly concerned by the open call. What documentation is
> available *NOW* for open call applicants who want to offer cloud hosting
> services? The call closes in 2 weeks, so IMO we *have* to make something
> simple enough published ASAP -- this week, if possible.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Federico Michele Facca <federico.facca at create-net.org>
> To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL
> Cc: Ezra Silvera/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, fernando <
> fernando.lopezaguilar at telefonica.com>, "Hierro, Juanjo" <
> juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>, Kenneth Nagin/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, Miguel
> Carrillo <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>, silvio <
> silvio.cretti at create-net.org>, Stefano Depanfilis <
> stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>
> Date: 13/10/2015 10:46 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Cloud Hosting R4 requirements for FIWARE Lab nodes
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> hi alex,
> some aspects may be procedures, for others I think it is question to adapt
> the status quo of the lab to requirements (code you have developed) in a
> pragmatic way. for this probably - and i am thinking about the "novel
> parts" (magnum, murano+heat, storlets) it would better to set up a call so
> we can understand what's the best way to bring them in production
> considering status quo of the architecture.
>
> federico
>
> Br,
> Federico
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> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Alex Glikson <*GLIKSON at il.ibm.com*
> <GLIKSON at il.ibm.com>> wrote:
> By all means, I am not an expert in FIWARE Lab procedures, so whatever
> approach seems most reasonable -- fine with me. Just trying to reduce some
> of the confusion that currently exists.
> Regarding per-region versus centralized services -- I am not sure how
> mature the multi-region support is in Heat and derived projects, and
> whether there are any hidden nuances in having such configuration (e.g.,
> what about quota enforcement and its implications on ability to deploy
> complex workloads?).
> Regarding Swarm -- we need to experiment with it. It might be sensitive to
> latencies. If not, maybe labels can be used to encode placement preferences
> in a specific region.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
>
> ====================================================================================
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>
> From: Federico Michele Facca <*federico.facca at create-net.org*
> <federico.facca at create-net.org>>
> To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL
> Cc: "Hierro, Juanjo" <*juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com*
> <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>>, Miguel Carrillo <
> *miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com*
> <miguel.carrillopacheco at telefonica.com>>, fernando <
> *fernando.lopezaguilar at telefonica.com*
> <fernando.lopezaguilar at telefonica.com>>, silvio <
> *silvio.cretti at create-net.org* <silvio.cretti at create-net.org>>, Stefano
> Depanfilis <*stefano.depanfilis at eng.it* <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>>,
> Kenneth Nagin/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, Ezra Silvera/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL
> Date: 12/10/2015 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Cloud Hosting R4 requirements for FIWARE Lab nodes
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> ps: regarding the installation, given that the idea should be to start
> from fi-deploy, it may be good that ansible scripts or other installation
> needed on top of a basic openstack are tested as well. not sure when
> alessandro and the team will release the first version of FI-Deploy based
> on Kilo (it was released by mirantis 10 days ago), i know they are working
> on the porting of the previous version plugins and on the new swift plugin,
> but that's all i know.
>
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> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Federico Michele Facca <
> *federico.facca at create-net.org* <federico.facca at create-net.org>> wrote:
> Dear Alex,
> I think the summary is a good starting point, but for me it's a bit
> confusing and some aspects are not even clear - at least to me - at the
> moment:
> - so far there is only one keystone, so except for ensuring initially that
> the node works properly stand-alone, there should not be any local
> installation.
> - in the current status the blueprint manager is a centralized service as
> well, will this apply as well for murano and heat?
> - same question for magnum and swarm.
>
> I suspect that it should be possible to use a single centralized instance
> (simplifying a lot the work to nodes attached to the lab) and avoiding
> wrong configurations.
>
> As part of the 2.2 activities we are releasing an up-to-date installation
> guide, which - at least for the well defined parts - such as network
> configuration and so on, provide better insights. Maybe we could converge
> or link the documentation.
>
> Br,
> Federico
>
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> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Alex Glikson <*GLIKSON at il.ibm.com*
> <GLIKSON at il.ibm.com>> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> In order to clarify some repeating questions regarding expected Cloud
> Hosting capabilities in FIWARE Lab nodes, we came up with a brief summary
> in the wiki [1]. Given the ongoing open call as well as several existing
> partners working on setting up FIWARE Lab nodes, we thought that it is
> important to disseminate this information to all the relevant parties.
> Would appreciate your comments and suggestions on how to proceed. Given
> that the open call is expected to close soon, this might be urgent, so
> would appreciate prompt response.
>
> Thanks,
> Kenneth & Alex
>
> [1]
> *https://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Cloud_Hosting_R4_FIWARE_Lab_Requirements*
> <https://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Cloud_Hosting_R4_FIWARE_Lab_Requirements>
>
>
> ====================================================================================
> Alex Glikson
> Manager, Cloud Infrastructure Solutions, IBM Haifa Research Lab; FIWARE
> Cloud Leader & Architect
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