[Fiware-legal] FI-WARE LEGAL TERMS FOR PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

[Juanjo Hierro]

Dear Robert,

  Thanks for your constructive comments towards a single redaction of the Legal Notice to be attached to all FI-WARE Open Specifications.   That is the right direction.

  There are several reasons why we rather need a single redaction of the Legal Notice:

  *   Operationally, it would become a mess to come to an agreement for each an every FI-WARE Open Specification.   We have just started and we have 25 open specifications.   And there would be different combinations of FI-WARE partners behind almost each ... are you going to run 25 parallel discussions groups to agree on Legal Notices, when the fact is that ALL those Legal Notices should have the same ingredients (license to use and general use restrictions, disclaimer on patents, disclaimer of warranty) ?   Come on ...
  *   It will lead to easy criticism about "collaborative" work ... Showing this "as a result" of our "cooperation" would be a disaster.   Honestly speaking, something to make jokes about ("This people in Europe cannot even agree into a single legal notice for the specifications of what they intend will be the Future Internet Core Platform.  This initiative will go nowhere").
  *   Looking for the impact of the project, it will simply jeopardize the whole intend of our project.   How can we pretend that people will seriously consider adopting our results if we cannot give them confidence on the legal terms that will accompany any specification we produce ?    People would not get any confidence that the terms to use the next specification to come will be appropriate for them because the lesson would be that the legal notice for each and every specification would be different.   As a result, they will simply not follow us nor take us seriously.   You know that creating confidence on legal terms is something you need to "invest" and we need to convince people outside our consortia that they can invest adopting FI-WARE results.

  We are not inventing anything new.  It is what ALL industry consortia aiming to generate Open Specification that can be adopted worldwide do: create a legal notice that accompany their published spec, generated from the active contribution of their members (W3C, OMG, OASIS, OMA, ...).   Why should we make it different and more complicated ?   I resist to admit that the reason why we cannot is because we are in Europe and all successful industry consortia have headquarters in the US ...

  Thanks again for your collaboration.

  Best regards,

-- Juanjo

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On 22/05/12 18:55, robert.sarrazin at orange.com<mailto:robert.sarrazin at orange.com> wrote:
Dear Luis and all,

 Please find below somme first comments on my side  .

- Concerning the Section " General Use Restrictions "   I wonder if there is a possible contradiction between the second sentence beginning : " No part of this work .. " and the terms of the License granted (  In  the Section " License " )  Is it intended to allow a copy of the specification itself ( as per License terms ) but not a part of this specification , without the permission of the copyright owner( s) ( according to the second sentence of " General Use Restrictions"  )  ?


-Concerning the first para, second sentence  of Section " Disclaimer of Warranty "  I suggest to complete it as follows:



THE FI-WARE PARTNER MAKE NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH REGARD TO THIS PUBLICATION, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY OF TITLE OR OWNERSHIP,  WARRANTY OF NON INFRINGEMENT OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS,  IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR USE.


Best regards

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Objet : [Fiware-legal] FI-WARE LEGAL TERMS FOR PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

Dear all,

We´ve prepared the applicable terms for  the preliminary specifications that are now published in FI-WARE.

http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Open_Specifications_Legal_Notice#Copyright_Information

We understand that these terms and conditions are in line with clause 4.1 of the CA. Notwithstanding, we invite you to send us your comments/ inputs in order to prepare the final version of these terms.

This final version will be applicable to the final FI-WARE specifications.

Best regards

Luis García García
Asesoria  Jurídica // Legal Department
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Telefónica Investigación y Desarrollo, S.A.Unipersonal
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