Dear Luis, thank you for the valuable draft declaration. I think that the license grants need to be further clarified. I would like to distinguish between copyright and patent licenses. The patent licenses should be either completely disclaimed, or in case there is a common understanding that we are obliged to grant patent licenses, then they should be limited along the lines indicated in the attached. Please note that this language is for discussion purposes only, and only addresses the license provisions in Sections 1 to 3. Please let me know what you think - 1. Use Of Specification - Terms, Conditions & Notices The material in this document details a FI-WARE Generic Enabler Specification ("GES") in accordance with the terms, conditions and notices set forth below. This document does not represent a commitment to implement any portion of this specification in any company's products. The information contained in this document is subject to change without notice. 2. Copyright License Each of the FI-WARE Project Partners<http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Project_Partners> hereby grants you a personal, nonexclusive, non transferable, non sub-licensable, royalty-free, paid up, worldwide license, under its respective copyrights incorporated in the GES, to copy and display the GES and to create derivative works thereof, solely for the purposes of developing derivative specifications of the GES and developing and commercializing software implementations conforming to the GES. 3. Patent License (1) "GES Essential Patents" shall mean patents and patent applications with priority date not later than the first public disclosure of the GES, the subject-matter of which is disclosed by the GES in their unmodified form, which are necessarily and unavoidably infringed by any implementation of the GES and which are owned by any of the FI-WARE Project Partners and can be licensed by the same without any obligation to seek consent of or compensate or otherwise account to a third party. (2) Each of the FI-WARE Project Partners<http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Project_Partners> hereby grant you a personal, nonexclusive, non transferable, non sub-licensable, royalty-free, paid up, worldwide license, under their respective GES Essential Patents, to make, use and sell software implementations conforming to the GES. (3) Each of the FI-WARE Project Partners<http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Project_Partners> reserve their right to request the payment of royalties, or to seek any other remedy under applicable law, with respect to any patents other than GES Essential Patents, or for any use of the GES Essential Patents not falling under (2). (4) The FI-WARE Project Partners<http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Project_Partners> shall not be responsible for identifying patents for which a license may be required in the course of implementing any of the GES, or for conducting legal inquiries into the legal validity or scope of those patents that are brought to its attention. The GES are prospective and advisory only. Prospective users are responsible for protecting themselves against liability for infringement of patents. Dr. Jonas Heitto, LL.M. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us and delete all copies of the transmission. ________________________________ From: fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of robert.sarrazin at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2012 18:46 To: lgg at tid.es; fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thierry.nagellen at orange.com Subject: Re: [Fiware-legal] FI-WARE LEGAL TERMS FOR PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS Dear luis and all, In addition to my previous comments below, I think it should be useful ( to avoid any misunderstanding ) to add at the end of Section " License " the following wording: " For avoidance of doubt, the rights granted are only those expressly stated in this Section . No other rights of any kind are granted by implication, waiver, or otherwise " Best regards ________________________________ De : SARRAZIN Robert DJ-DJ-ISS Envoyé : mardi 22 mai 2012 18:55 À : 'LUIS GARCIA GARCIA'; fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc : NAGELLEN Thierry RD-BIZZ-SOP Objet : RE: [Fiware-legal] FI-WARE LEGAL TERMS FOR PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS Dear Luis and all, Please find below somme first comments on my side . - Concerning the Section " General Use Restrictions " I wonder if there is a possible contradiction between the second sentence beginning : " No part of this work .. " and the terms of the License granted ( In the Section " License " ) Is it intended to allow a copy of the specification itself ( as per License terms ) but not a part of this specification , without the permission of the copyright owner( s) ( according to the second sentence of " General Use Restrictions" ) ? -Concerning the first para, second sentence of Section " Disclaimer of Warranty " I suggest to complete it as follows: THE FI-WARE PARTNER MAKE NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH REGARD TO THIS PUBLICATION, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY OF TITLE OR OWNERSHIP, WARRANTY OF NON INFRINGEMENT OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS, IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR USE. Best regards ________________________________ De : fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de LUIS GARCIA GARCIA Envoyé : jeudi 17 mai 2012 10:43 À : fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-legal] FI-WARE LEGAL TERMS FOR PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS Dear all, We´ve prepared the applicable terms for the preliminary specifications that are now published in FI-WARE. http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Open_Specifications_Legal_Notice#Copyright_Information We understand that these terms and conditions are in line with clause 4.1 of the CA. Notwithstanding, we invite you to send us your comments/ inputs in order to prepare the final version of these terms. This final version will be applicable to the final FI-WARE specifications. 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