Dear Luis, we fully endorse the opinion of NSN that the actual text in the version "explicit" for Patent licenses is inconsistent. A license can be under FRAND-conditions or it can be royalty-free but not both at the same time. However our consequences out of this inconsistency are not the same. Our proposal is to leave "on fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory conditions" in as it is, but to delete "royalty-free, paid up" In our view there should be no obligation to grant patent licenses royalty-free. Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards Irene Glück-Otte Siemens AG Corporate Legal and Compliance CL CS CU CT&IP Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 81739 München, Deutschland Tel.: +49 89 636-33276 Fax: +49 89 636-50441 Mobil: +49 1522 2797796 mailto:irene.glueck-otte at siemens.com Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Gerhard Cromme; Vorstand: Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Roland Busch, Brigitte Ederer, Klaus Helmrich, Joe Kaeser, Barbara Kux, Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. Solmssen, Michael Süß; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und München, Deutschland; Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684; WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322 Von: fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Im Auftrag von Mohr, Werner (NSN - DE/Munich) Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. März 2013 13:13 An: ext LUIS GARCIA GARCIA; fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu Betreff: Re: [Fiware-legal] FIWARE LEGAL NOTICE Dear Luis, please find attached the commented versions from Nokia Siemens Networks including text changes to improve clarity on the explicit and the implicit legal notice. There are some questions included for clarification. There are two general comments from the Nokia Siemens Networks perspective as follows: · The NSN preference would be (always) to use the implicit grant. · Any use of the explicit patent grant would need case by case assessment. We are looking forward for a revised version. Best regards, Werner Dr. Werner Mohr Head of Research Alliances Nokia Siemens Networks Management International GmbH CEF T&S IE Research Alliances St. Martin Strasse 76 81541 Munich Germany Office phone: +49-89-5159-35117 Office fax: +49-89-5159-35121 Mobile phone: +49-171-3340 788 e-Mail: werner.mohr at nsn.com<mailto:werner.mohr at nsn.com> Nokia Siemens Networks Management International GmbH Geschäftsleitung / Board of Directors: Andreas Sauer, Ralf Dietzel Sitz der Gesellschaft: München / Registered office: Munich Registergericht: München / Commercial registry: Munich, HRB 198081 From: fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext LUIS GARCIA GARCIA Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:12 PM To: fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu> Subject: [Fiware-legal] FIWARE LEGAL NOTICE Dear all, Find enclosed the two legal notices that have been produced by the Task Force Working Group launched by the FI-WARE PCC for this purpose. These Legal Notices will govern the FI-WARE specifications generated under FI-WARE. There are two models: with explicit patent grant and implicit patent grant. You may choose the one you prefer for your Specifications as both, in our opinion, perfectly fits with the provisions of the FI-WARE CA and GA. Notwithstanding, if you have any question or remarks, send them to me before next 20th March, as we must have this FIWARE Legal Notice definitively finished during April. Best regards Luis García García Asesoria Jurídica // Legal Department Tfnos: +34 914832614 // +34913129666 Telefónica Investigación y Desarrollo, S.A.Unipersonal DISTRITO C- Edificio Oeste 1, 5ª planta Ronda de la Comunicación s/n 28050-Madrid (España) [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE2589.E00A9420] ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.fiware.org/private/fiware-legal/attachments/20130320/deb2e016/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5330 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: <https://lists.fiware.org/private/fiware-legal/attachments/20130320/deb2e016/attachment.jpg>
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