From mach at zhaw.ch Mon Feb 3 17:11:51 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:11:51 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] New Task - Review of Security Chapter Architecture Message-ID: <4DF2A7EB-8976-4FD4-9852-2A5FFFF6B360@zhaw.ch> Hi everybody After delivering the MIWI Architecture, we got as the task to review the Architecture of the Security Chapter WP8 (Similar, members of the Data Chapter will review our Architecture). To do this in a efficient way we have to distribute the work. Therefore I created a new sheet in the WP13 dashboard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=23 I assigned partners to specific chapters (GEs) of the Security Chapter. Next steps: Each partner assigns one or more specific persons to its chapter to review (fill in the name in column E of the dashboard) Grab the document from the FI-WARE private: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3338/D233_WP8_V1_generated.docx Enable change tracking mode in Word (!) and review your chapter fix spelling/gramatical errors add notes/comments if something is missing, wrong or not comprehensible. Send the document with your reviewed chapter(s) to me until Wednesday evening (5.2.2014 EOB) Comments: partners assigned to chapters is more or less random you can swap GEs, if you can find a partner who agrees (but let me know the changes). I know the deadline is tight. To keep the FI-WARE schedule we should not delay the feedback. Thanks for your support. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Tue Feb 4 07:33:28 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:33:28 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Oulu bi-weekly today at 13? Message-ID: <91B4C210-9268-45EE-94B6-1509516B2FB9@playsign.net> Hi and sorry about the late invite(*), would today 13 work for Oulu folks for the ~regular bi-weekly meet? You?re welcome at our fi-ware space if so. I think the bi-weekly schedule would have hit last week actually but I think everyone was busy with the releases then. Now would actually be a great time as there?s been a lot of planning for the next steps I think. And the end of this week is the deadline for plans in the tracker. Some plans from the scene & sync & 3d ui related that we?ve already discussed (with Lasse): - Ludocraft has scheduled adding proper hierarchy to Tundra ? i think the work is / has actually started and affects native Tundra, TXML, the protocol and WebTundra ? and XML3D support there. - Playsign has implemented client-side interpolation for movement changes, is nice and smooth now and works well for Pong. The optimized RigidBody update messages have been in the talks. But actually we?ve now investigated Physics more: should we integrate Bullet (as Ammo.js. or some other JS engine?) to WebTundra? I think it would be a physics module & RigidBody handling, similar to native (which is also similar to what DFKI?s xml3d physics article proposes). There are many aspects to this but one I think a key one for us is scaling: for the case of e.g. 100 avatars, does bullet on the server become a bottleneck and it would be actually lighter for every client to do the collision checks for their own object-of-control? Previous experience hints it might be so. We?ve now planned porting the Oulu city model + car driving demo to Tundra & WebTundra, for multiplayer, and have physics working there also for the collisions between different players? cars. (avatar apps exist already so is more interesting to have the car thing as a different kind of av, also cars and traffic is a big current topic in our city). Regarding the optimized movement messages to cut down bandwidth & enable extrapolation, client side physics are AFAIK a pre-requisite (to not go thru objects in the extrapolation) so adding a physics module first would also pave the way for that. Other motivations are standalone WebTundra use for single user apps (like ammo.js is used in the original non-Tundra Pong) ? Philipp also requested it back in the F2F meet when saw it in action. - Ludocraft has began implementing VirtualCharacters, also in the WebTundra repo (in a branch currently, adds EC_AnimationController + the view for it). Topics that haven?t been planned much yet recently: - integrated demo / use case, with GIS and POIs and AR and 3DUI and input and all? - smaller/simpler GIS & Xflow & 3d capture & real-virtual interaction (= Cyberlightning GEs) integrated demos with realXtend things? - 2dui ui widget & input handling & interface builder integrations (= Adminotech GEs) with realXtend things? Also everyone has ofc their topics that I don?t know about, the meeting is exactly to bring those to info & discussion if needed :) So see you then if you can make it, we?ll be there anyhow. Cheers, ~Toni (*) my excuse for late invite: our iOS game finally hit the Apple store for World Wide launch last Thu, and is now featured by Apple in many countries in ?best new games? :) .. and yesterday we submitted an update to it and there was a bug on the backend server we hunted & fixed in the evening still. Otherwise this mostly doesn?t harm the fi-ware / rex work otherwise as there are separate main teams for the two projects. But anyhow, iOS gamers please get Wizard Quest from the store ($1 launch campaign price, is a $3 type game now) and enjoy! http://www.managiant.com/ From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Tue Feb 4 17:06:40 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 18:06:40 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] New Task - Review of Security Chapter Architecture In-Reply-To: <4DF2A7EB-8976-4FD4-9852-2A5FFFF6B360@zhaw.ch> References: <4DF2A7EB-8976-4FD4-9852-2A5FFFF6B360@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello, Cyberlightning part of the review complete. I will send the document directly to you Christof, so that I do not little the mailing list with large attachments. - jarkko On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi everybody > > After delivering the MIWI Architecture, we got as the task to review the > Architecture of the Security Chapter WP8 (Similar, members of the Data > Chapter will review our Architecture). > To do this in a efficient way we have to distribute the work. Therefore I > created a new sheet in the WP13 dashboard: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=23 > > I assigned partners to specific chapters (GEs) of the Security Chapter. > Next steps: > > - Each partner *assigns one or more specific persons* to its chapter > to review umn E of the dashboard) > - Grab the document from the FI-WARE private: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3338/D233_WP8_V1_generated.docx > - Enable *change tracking mode* in Word* (!) *and review your chapter > - fix spelling/gramatical errors > - add notes/comments if something is missing, wrong or not > comprehensible. > - Send the document with your reviewed chapter(s) to me *until > Wednesday evening (5.2.2014 EOB)* > > Comments: > > - partners assigned to chapters is more or less random > - you can swap GEs, if you can find a partner who agrees (but let me > know the changes). > - I know the deadline is tight. To keep the FI-WARE schedule we should > not delay the feedback. > > Thanks for your support. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 5 09:45:25 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:45:25 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting agenda/minutes Message-ID: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> Hi Here is the agenda/minutes of todays WP13 call: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit Not to much items this week, but some, which are urgent. I will open the telco session at 10:00 CET. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From stefan.lemme at dfki.de Wed Feb 5 10:27:15 2014 From: stefan.lemme at dfki.de (Stefan Lemme) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:27:15 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on MiWi GEs at FIcontent Workshop at DFKI Message-ID: <52F203F3.1070304@dfki.de> Hi all, DFKI is currently organizing a three-day workshop for students from Nantes/France, which are part of the ICT & Art Connect program. The workshop starts on Monday, 10th February at 10am. On Monday we will give a hands-on to gaming relevant FI-WARE GEs (mainly all MiWi GEs) and the FIcontent Pervasive Games Platform. I know it is really short-term, but if somebody from Oulu is interested to join the workshop and may give a hands-on for few of the MiWi GEs, you are cordially invited. This will improve the quality and depth of the presentation and you might be rather in the position to answer questions than us. Moreover, this will give you the opportunity to make contact with FIcontent people that will uptake your FI-WARE contributions for their SEs of the Pervasive Games Platform. Let me know whether you are interested. Best, Stefan From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 5 13:29:41 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:29:41 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hi Following a short summary of the Action Points from todays meeting: (for details see the topics in todays minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit) [Today Wed February 5th] Assigned reviewers: Finish reviewing assigned section of WP8 (Security) Architecture Dashboard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=23I Each partner assigns one or more specific persons to its chapter to review (fill in the name in column E of the dashboard) Grab the document from the FI-WARE private: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3338/D233_WP8_V1_generated.docx Enable change tracking mode in Word (!) and review your chapter fix spelling/gramatical errors add notes/comments if something is missing, wrong or not comprehensible. Send the document with your reviewed chapter(s) to Christof (and mark in Dashboard as ?Review completed") [Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner: Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case description. Instructions & examples of other chapters: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan [Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th EOB] Affected GEi owners: Fix rejected guides from Miguels Dashbord: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqLSWp0KXaaDdGZ0ekFhREgyMFdoT1owZ1BYdFlnbGc&usp=docslist_api#gid=2 Update status on our Dashboard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE#gid=17 and send notice to Christof (mailt:mach at zhaw.ch) [Friday February 7th before 18:00] All GEi owner: Sprint 3.3.2 planning. Add/schedule entries for Sprint 3.3.2 (February) Thanks for keeping the Deadlines. Next week I will be out of office, but Philipp will initiate a meeting in the usual time-slot on discussing demonstrators for WP13. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti Am 05.02.2014 um 09:45 schrieb Christof Marti : > Hi > > Here is the agenda/minutes of todays WP13 call: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit > > Not to much items this week, but some, which are urgent. > > I will open the telco session at 10:00 CET. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Jonne Nauha Meshmoon developer at Adminotech Ltd. www.meshmoon.com On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi > > Following a short summary of the Action Points from todays meeting: > (for details see the topics in todays minutes: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit > ) > > > - *[Today Wed February 5th] Assigned reviewers*: Finish reviewing > assigned section of WP8 (Security) Architecture > - Dashboard: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=23 > I > - Each partner assigns one or more specific persons to its chapter > to review (fill in the name in column E of the dashboard) > - Grab the document from the FI-WARE private: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3338/D233_WP8_V1_generated.docx > - Enable change tracking mode in Word (!) and review your chapter > - fix spelling/gramatical errors > - add notes/comments if something is missing, wrong or not > comprehensible. > - Send the document with your reviewed chapter(s) to Christof (and > mark in Dashboard as "Review completed") > - *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner*: Add GE-Integration > chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration > wiki page: > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > - *I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You > only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case > description.* > - Instructions & examples of other chapters: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan > - *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th EOB] Affected GEi owners*: Fix rejected > guides from Miguels Dashbord: > - > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqLSWp0KXaaDdGZ0ekFhREgyMFdoT1owZ1BYdFlnbGc&usp=docslist_api#gid=2 > - Update status on our Dashboard: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE#gid=17 > - and send notice to Christof (mailt:mach at zhaw.ch) > - *[Friday February 7th before 18:00] All GEi owner*: Sprint 3.3.2 > planning. > - Add/schedule entries for Sprint 3.3.2 (February) > > > Thanks for keeping the Deadlines. > > *Next week I will be out of office, but Philipp will initiate a meeting in > the usual time-slot on discussing demonstrators for WP13.* > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > Am 05.02.2014 um 09:45 schrieb Christof Marti : > > Hi > > Here is the agenda/minutes of todays WP13 call: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit > > Not to much items this week, but some, which are urgent. > > I will open the telco session at 10:00 CET. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Wed Feb 5 15:01:20 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:01:20 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> > So we are looking at this page and if I understand correctly, there is > nothing to fill in there if you GE does not depend on other GEs? This page > is only for integration tests between GEs? All our tests/functionality > only > depend on the internal components on the GE. It was discussed in the weekly telco, basically that was the old interpretation, but was found out to be too strict. So rather think "what GE's can my GE be used with?" and imagine integration tests based on that. -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From antti.kokko at adminotech.com Thu Feb 6 07:41:57 2014 From: antti.kokko at adminotech.com (Antti Kokko) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 08:41:57 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Message-ID: Hi, I cannot access the links under "Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page". Thanks, - Antti On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: > > So we are looking at this page and if I understand correctly, there is > > nothing to fill in there if you GE does not depend on other GEs? This > page > > is only for integration tests between GEs? All our tests/functionality > > only > > depend on the internal components on the GE. > > It was discussed in the weekly telco, basically that was the old > interpretation, but was found out to be too strict. So rather think "what > GE's can my GE be used with?" and imagine integration tests based on that. > > -- > Lasse ??rni > Game Programmer > LudoCraft Ltd. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Thu Feb 6 07:44:39 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 08:44:39 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Message-ID: <8625D1B7-8E08-4BD7-8A61-8044F38498F9@playsign.net> worked for me now, supposing you mean these: [Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner: Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case description. Instructions & examples of other chapters: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan On 06 Feb 2014, at 08:41, Antti Kokko wrote: > Hi, > > I cannot access the links under "Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page". > > Thanks, > > - Antti > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: > > So we are looking at this page and if I understand correctly, there is > > nothing to fill in there if you GE does not depend on other GEs? This page > > is only for integration tests between GEs? All our tests/functionality > > only > > depend on the internal components on the GE. > > It was discussed in the weekly telco, basically that was the old > interpretation, but was found out to be too strict. So rather think "what > GE's can my GE be used with?" and imagine integration tests based on that. > > -- > Lasse ??rni > Game Programmer > LudoCraft Ltd. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antti.kokko at adminotech.com Thu Feb 6 09:44:21 2014 From: antti.kokko at adminotech.com (Antti Kokko) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 10:44:21 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: <8625D1B7-8E08-4BD7-8A61-8044F38498F9@playsign.net> References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> <8625D1B7-8E08-4BD7-8A61-8044F38498F9@playsign.net> Message-ID: Hmm. Is this about the missing IP address thing? I cannot access. - A On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Toni Alatalo wrote: > worked for me now, supposing you mean these: > > > - *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner*: Add GE-Integration > chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration > wiki page: > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > - *I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You > only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case > description.* > - Instructions & examples of other chapters: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan > > > On 06 Feb 2014, at 08:41, Antti Kokko wrote: > > Hi, > > I cannot access the links under "Add GE-Integration chain & Integration > test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page". > > Thanks, > > - Antti > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: > >> > So we are looking at this page and if I understand correctly, there is >> > nothing to fill in there if you GE does not depend on other GEs? This >> page >> > is only for integration tests between GEs? All our tests/functionality >> > only >> > depend on the internal components on the GE. >> >> It was discussed in the weekly telco, basically that was the old >> interpretation, but was found out to be too strict. 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URL: From arto.heikkinen at cie.fi Thu Feb 6 09:48:01 2014 From: arto.heikkinen at cie.fi (Arto Heikkinen) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:48:01 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> <8625D1B7-8E08-4BD7-8A61-8044F38498F9@playsign.net> Message-ID: <52F34C41.7070008@cie.fi> Hi, I believe you need to be a member of the FI-WARE Testbed project in the Forge (https://forge.fi-ware.eu/projects/testbed/) in order to access that document. -Arto On 6.2.2014 10:44, Antti Kokko wrote: > Hmm. Is this about the missing IP address thing? I cannot access. > > - A > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Toni Alatalo > wrote: > > worked for me now, supposing you mean these: > > * *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner*: Add > GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your > GE to the MIWI integration wiki page: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > o /I added the basic structure and template for the test > cases. You only need to add your integration chain and > update the test-case description./ > o Instructions & examples of other chapters: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan > > > On 06 Feb 2014, at 08:41, Antti Kokko > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I cannot access the links under "Add GE-Integration chain & >> Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI >> integration wiki page". >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Antti >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM, "Lasse ??rni" >> > wrote: >> >> > So we are looking at this page and if I understand >> correctly, there is >> > nothing to fill in there if you GE does not depend on other >> GEs? This page >> > is only for integration tests between GEs? All our >> tests/functionality >> > only >> > depend on the internal components on the GE. >> >> It was discussed in the weekly telco, basically that was the old >> interpretation, but was found out to be too strict. So rather >> think "what >> GE's can my GE be used with?" and imagine integration tests >> based on that. >> >> -- >> Lasse ??rni >> Game Programmer >> LudoCraft Ltd. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antti.karhu at cie.fi Thu Feb 6 09:48:38 2014 From: antti.karhu at cie.fi (Antti Karhu) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 10:48:38 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Action Points from todays WP13 weekly meeting In-Reply-To: References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <4f470bb43912f3034b41954b8917edc0.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> <8625D1B7-8E08-4BD7-8A61-8044F38498F9@playsign.net> Message-ID: You cannot access the page before you join the Test bed project https://forge.fi-ware.eu/projects/testbed/ 2014-02-06 Antti Kokko : > Hmm. Is this about the missing IP address thing? I cannot access. > > - A > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Toni Alatalo wrote: > >> worked for me now, supposing you mean these: >> >> >> - *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner*: Add >> GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the >> MIWI integration wiki page: >> >> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 >> - *I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. >> You only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case >> description.* >> - Instructions & examples of other chapters: >> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan >> >> >> On 06 Feb 2014, at 08:41, Antti Kokko wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I cannot access the links under "Add GE-Integration chain & Integration >> test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page". >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Antti >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:01 PM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: >> >>> > So we are looking at this page and if I understand correctly, there is >>> > nothing to fill in there if you GE does not depend on other GEs? This >>> page >>> > is only for integration tests between GEs? All our tests/functionality >>> > only >>> > depend on the internal components on the GE. >>> >>> It was discussed in the weekly telco, basically that was the old >>> interpretation, but was found out to be too strict. So rather think "what >>> GE's can my GE be used with?" and imagine integration tests based on >>> that. >>> >>> -- >>> Lasse ??rni >>> Game Programmer >>> LudoCraft Ltd. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Feb 7 09:31:26 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:31:26 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases In-Reply-To: References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> Hi Thanks to all who contributed to the Integration Test-Cases. I did not expect so many test-cases. While checking the page I found some errors and missing/week parts, we should fix urgently. I2 3D-UI WebTundra ? POI Data Provider) : Description for Integration-Test I2 is missing (still template). I7 3D-UI XML3D ? MIWI Dataflow process (WebCL) GE : Dataflow process (WebCL) is not a GE Also I find the description of the Test-Cases is to unspecific in most cases and lacks some details Input Specification should describe what is the input for the test case (data format description, inline examples, file references, ?) Output Specification describes what will be the result of the process (data format description, inline examples, textual description what is displayed, ?) Environmental needs describes the prerequisites to start the test (Services/GEs installed and running, references to other tests which have to be executed before, other infrastructure needed (Android, or human operator doing something). In the steps section, the detailed steps through the process should be described: Details contains the short description, what will be done (examples: "Login to xy?, ?Load scene file?, ?Navigate to demos section?, ?) Input Data gives instructions, what has to be entered in this step (examples: concrete data to be entered (string, xml, ?), ?load file from http://xy?, ?Click on demo x?,?) Expected Result shows what will be the result at the end of this step (examples: concrete data returned, what page will be shown, Description of something happening in a scene,?) For the steps expect that the GEs (specified in Environmental Needs) are already installed and running according to the Installation Guide. So here only the steps to execute the test are required. In general we need more specific data in the input sections (Files to be loaded from where, URLs to be accessed, Data to be entered, ?) I prefer to have less Integration tests, but better quality of the description (approx 3-5 tests with good detailed description) If the details of a test-case are not yet available, we better add the dependency chain to the "Planned dependencies for further versions? table. The first two problems have to be fixed immediately. And we should enhance the description of test cases which are mature enough until noon (or move the Test-Case to Planned table). Who is able to enhance which tests until noon? Best regards Christof Am 05.02.2014 um 13:29 schrieb Christof Marti : > [Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner: Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case description. > Instructions & examples of other chapters: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Fri Feb 7 10:01:15 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:01:15 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases In-Reply-To: <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: On 07 Feb 2014, at 10:31, Christof Marti wrote: > I2 3D-UI WebTundra ? POI Data Provider) : Description for Integration-Test I2 is missing (still template). I don?t know whether the POI folks want to have this up there or not. If it?s only up to us on the 3D-UI side, let?s just delete it (for now). If the POI team wants to have that there we can help with documenting it if needed. We can fill in more details to the 3D-UI - Sync one if needed. The details are already in the manuals which are linked, do you suggest we copy-paste and not link? ~Toni > I7 3D-UI XML3D ? MIWI Dataflow process (WebCL) GE : Dataflow process (WebCL) is not a GE > Also I find the description of the Test-Cases is to unspecific in most cases and lacks some details > Input Specification should describe what is the input for the test case (data format description, inline examples, file references, ?) > Output Specification describes what will be the result of the process (data format description, inline examples, textual description what is displayed, ?) > Environmental needs describes the prerequisites to start the test (Services/GEs installed and running, references to other tests which have to be executed before, other infrastructure needed (Android, or human operator doing something). > In the steps section, the detailed steps through the process should be described: > Details contains the short description, what will be done (examples: "Login to xy?, ?Load scene file?, ?Navigate to demos section?, ?) > Input Data gives instructions, what has to be entered in this step (examples: concrete data to be entered (string, xml, ?), ?load file from http://xy?, ?Click on demo x?,?) > Expected Result shows what will be the result at the end of this step (examples: concrete data returned, what page will be shown, Description of something happening in a scene,?) > For the steps expect that the GEs (specified in Environmental Needs) are already installed and running according to the Installation Guide. So here only the steps to execute the test are required. > > In general we need more specific data in the input sections (Files to be loaded from where, URLs to be accessed, Data to be entered, ?) > I prefer to have less Integration tests, but better quality of the description (approx 3-5 tests with good detailed description) > If the details of a test-case are not yet available, we better add the dependency chain to the "Planned dependencies for further versions? table. > > The first two problems have to be fixed immediately. > And we should enhance the description of test cases which are mature enough until noon (or move the Test-Case to Planned table). > Who is able to enhance which tests until noon? > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 05.02.2014 um 13:29 schrieb Christof Marti : > >> [Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner: Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page: >> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 >> I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case description. >> Instructions & examples of other chapters: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arto.heikkinen at cie.fi Fri Feb 7 10:18:00 2014 From: arto.heikkinen at cie.fi (Arto Heikkinen) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:18:00 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases In-Reply-To: References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <52F4A4C8.80001@cie.fi> On 7.2.2014 11:01, Toni Alatalo wrote: > On 07 Feb 2014, at 10:31, Christof Marti > wrote: >> >> * I2 3D-UI WebTundra ? POI Data Provider) : Description for >> Integration-Test I2 is missing (still template). >> > I don't know whether the POI folks want to have this up there or not. > If it's only up to us on the 3D-UI side, let's just delete it (for > now). If the POI team wants to have that there we can help with > documenting it if needed. You can freely delete this if you want. This was not added by us. -Arto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antti.kokko at adminotech.com Fri Feb 7 10:39:26 2014 From: antti.kokko at adminotech.com (Antti Kokko) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:39:26 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases In-Reply-To: <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hi, I9 enhanced. - Antti On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi > > Thanks to all who contributed to the Integration Test-Cases. I did not > expect so many test-cases. > While checking the page I found some errors and missing/week parts, we > should fix urgently. > > - I2 3D-UI WebTundra ? POI Data Provider) : Description for > Integration-Test I2 is missing (still template). > - I7 3D-UI XML3D ? MIWI Dataflow process (WebCL) GE : Dataflow > process (WebCL) is not a GE > > Also I find the description of the Test-Cases is to unspecific in most > cases and lacks some details > > - *Input Specification* should describe what is the input for the test > case (data format description, inline examples, file references, ?) > - *Output Specification* describes what will be the result of the > process (data format description, inline examples, textual description what > is displayed, ?) > - *Environmental needs* describes the prerequisites to start the test > (Services/GEs installed and running, references to other tests which have > to be executed before, other infrastructure needed (Android, or human > operator doing something). > > In the steps section, the detailed steps through the process should be > described: > > - *Details* contains the short description, what will be done > (examples: "Login to xy?, ?Load scene file?, ?Navigate to demos section?, ?) > - I*nput Data* gives instructions, what has to be entered in this step > (examples: concrete data to be entered (string, xml, ?), ?load file from > http://xy?, ?Click on demo x?,?) > - *Expected Result* shows what will be the result at the end of this > step (examples: concrete data returned, what page will be shown, > Description of something happening in a scene,?) > > For the steps expect that the GEs (specified in Environmental Needs) are > already installed and running according to the Installation Guide. So here > only the steps to execute the test are required. > > In general we need more specific data in the input sections (Files to be > loaded from where, URLs to be accessed, Data to be entered, ?) > I prefer to have less Integration tests, but better quality of the > description (approx 3-5 tests with good detailed description) > If the details of a test-case are not yet available, we better add the > dependency chain to the "Planned dependencies for further versions? table. > > *The first two problems have to be fixed immediately. * > *And we should enhance the description of test cases which are mature > enough until noon (or move the Test-Case to Planned table).* > *Who is able to enhance which tests until noon?* > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 05.02.2014 um 13:29 schrieb Christof Marti : > > > - *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner*: Add GE-Integration > chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration > wiki page: > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > - *I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You > only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case > description.* > - Instructions & examples of other chapters: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Fri Feb 7 11:11:23 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 12:11:23 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases In-Reply-To: <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> References: <3956B883-0B42-4D7F-A682-AA092F07E263@zhaw.ch> <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <6ff73a849ffc72fba0b628bb94b7b322.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> > The first two problems have to be fixed immediately. > And we should enhance the description of test cases which are mature > enough until noon (or move the Test-Case to Planned table). > Who is able to enhance which tests until noon? > > Best regards > Christof Hi, I've moved the Virtual Characters test to the Planned table, as it cannot at this point be clarified with actual URLs etc. -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Feb 7 11:28:25 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:28:25 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases WP13 In-Reply-To: <2735FD3D-5841-40FB-885E-3D103592AFCB@zhaw.ch> References: <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> <2735FD3D-5841-40FB-885E-3D103592AFCB@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <70E1EB5B-D180-42AE-8DBD-D72B6B677811@zhaw.ch> Hi Stefano, Mauro I fixed the errors (removing or commenting out parts) and renumbered the test-cases. There were also some enhancement of some descriptions. Hope this is enough for a first delivery. We will continue to enhance the quality of the descriptions next week after the server migration. Best regards Christof Am 07.02.2014 um 10:01 schrieb Christof Marti : > Hi Stefano, Mauro > > There is now content on the WP13 Integration test case page > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > > There are still 2 errors, which have to be fixed immediately and generally I am not yet satisfied with the quality of the test descriptions. > I pushed again to fix and enhance the descriptions (see mail below), but I doubt this will be done until noon. > Worst case I will remove the two test cases with errors at 11:00 and fix what I find. And enhance the other descriptions after the delivery. > > Best regards > Christof > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: > >> Von: Christof Marti >> Betreff: Status Integraton Test-Cases >> Datum: 7. Februar 2014 [6] 09:31:26 MEZ >> An: "FI-WARE, MiWi" >> >> Hi >> >> Thanks to all who contributed to the Integration Test-Cases. I did not expect so many test-cases. >> When checking the page I found some errors and missing/weak parts, we should fix urgently. >> I2 3D-UI WebTundra ? POI Data Provider) : Description for Integration-Test I2 is missing (still template). >> I7 3D-UI XML3D ? MIWI Dataflow process (WebCL) GE : Dataflow process (WebCL) is not a GE >> Also I find the description of the Test-Cases is to unspecific in most cases and lacks some details >> Input Specification should describe what is the input for the test case (data format description, inline examples, file references, ?) >> Output Specification describes what will be the result of the process (data format description, inline examples, textual description what is displayed, ?) >> Environmental needs describes the prerequisites to start the test (Services/GEs installed and running, references to other tests which have to be executed before, other infrastructure needed (Android, or human operator doing something). >> In the steps section, the detailed steps through the process should be described: >> Details contains the short description, what will be done (examples: "Login to xy?, ?Load scene file?, ?Navigate to demos section?, ?) >> Input Data gives instructions, what has to be entered in this step (examples: concrete data to be entered (string, xml, ?), ?load file from http://xy?, ?Click on demo x?,?) >> Expected Result shows what will be the result at the end of this step (examples: concrete data returned, what page will be shown, Description of something happening in a scene,?) >> For the steps expect that the GEs (specified in Environmental Needs) are already installed and running according to the Installation Guide. So here only the steps to execute the test are required. >> >> In general we need more specific data in the input sections (Files to be loaded from where, URLs to be accessed, Data to be entered, ?) >> I prefer to have less Integration tests, but better quality of the description (approx 3-5 tests with good detailed description) >> If the details of a test-case are not yet available, we better add the dependency chain to the "Planned dependencies for further versions? table. >> >> The first two problems have to be fixed immediately. >> And we should enhance the description of test cases which are mature enough until noon (or move the Test-Case to Planned table). >> Who is able to enhance which tests until noon? >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> >> From: Christof Marti : >> >>> [Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner: Add GE-Integration chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration wiki page: >>> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 >>> I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case description. >>> Instructions & examples of other chapters: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Fri Feb 7 13:01:50 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:01:50 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status Integraton Test-Cases WP13 In-Reply-To: <70E1EB5B-D180-42AE-8DBD-D72B6B677811@zhaw.ch> References: <63795A62-9FBB-42CC-B9AC-42F3F74DC47E@zhaw.ch> <2735FD3D-5841-40FB-885E-3D103592AFCB@zhaw.ch> <70E1EB5B-D180-42AE-8DBD-D72B6B677811@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello, I just got next to my email. Noon has already gone, and forge is down. So, regarding to the fix mentioned below, we will take alook at that on monday. - jarkko On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi Stefano, Mauro > > I fixed the errors (removing or commenting out parts) and renumbered the > test-cases. > There were also some enhancement of some descriptions. > Hope this is enough for a first delivery. > > We will continue to enhance the quality of the descriptions next week > after the server migration. > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 07.02.2014 um 10:01 schrieb Christof Marti : > > Hi Stefano, Mauro > > There is now content on the WP13 Integration test case page > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > > There are still 2 errors, which have to be fixed immediately and generally > I am not yet satisfied with the quality of the test descriptions. > I pushed again to fix and enhance the descriptions (see mail below), but I > doubt this will be done until noon. > Worst case I will remove the two test cases with errors at 11:00 and fix > what I find. And enhance the other descriptions after the delivery. > > Best regards > Christof > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: > > *Von: *Christof Marti > *Betreff: **Status Integraton Test-Cases* > *Datum: *7. Februar 2014 [6] 09:31:26 MEZ > *An: *"FI-WARE, MiWi" > > Hi > > Thanks to all who contributed to the Integration Test-Cases. I did not > expect so many test-cases. > When checking the page I found some errors and missing/weak parts, we > should fix urgently. > > - I2 3D-UI WebTundra ? POI Data Provider) : Description for > Integration-Test I2 is missing (still template). > - I7 3D-UI XML3D ? MIWI Dataflow process (WebCL) GE : Dataflow > process (WebCL) is not a GE > > Also I find the description of the Test-Cases is to unspecific in most > cases and lacks some details > > - *Input Specification* should describe what is the input for the test > case (data format description, inline examples, file references, ?) > - *Output Specification* describes what will be the result of the > process (data format description, inline examples, textual description what > is displayed, ?) > - *Environmental needs* describes the prerequisites to start the test > (Services/GEs installed and running, references to other tests which have > to be executed before, other infrastructure needed (Android, or human > operator doing something). > > In the steps section, the detailed steps through the process should be > described: > > - *Details* contains the short description, what will be done > (examples: "Login to xy?, ?Load scene file?, ?Navigate to demos section?, ?) > - I*nput Data* gives instructions, what has to be entered in this step > (examples: concrete data to be entered (string, xml, ?), ?load file from > http://xy? , ?Click on demo x?,?) > - *Expected Result* shows what will be the result at the end of this > step (examples: concrete data returned, what page will be shown, > Description of something happening in a scene,?) > > For the steps expect that the GEs (specified in Environmental Needs) are > already installed and running according to the Installation Guide. So here > only the steps to execute the test are required. > > In general we need more specific data in the input sections (Files to be > loaded from where, URLs to be accessed, Data to be entered, ?) > I prefer to have less Integration tests, but better quality of the > description (approx 3-5 tests with good detailed description) > If the details of a test-case are not yet available, we better add the > dependency chain to the "Planned dependencies for further versions? table. > > *The first two problems have to be fixed immediately. * > *And we should enhance the description of test cases which are mature > enough until noon (or move the Test-Case to Planned table).* > *Who is able to enhance which tests until noon?* > > Best regards > Christof > > From: Christof Marti : > > > - *[Tomorrow Thu Feb 6th 12:00 CET] All GEi owner*: Add GE-Integration > chain & Integration test description using your GE to the MIWI integration > wiki page: > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Advanced_Middleware_and_Web-based_User_Interface_enablers_-_Test_Cases_-_V3 > - *I added the basic structure and template for the test cases. You > only need to add your integration chain and update the test-case > description.* > - Instructions & examples of other chapters: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V3_Integration_Plan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was not the only GE that got this kind of comments. *"Serious rejection. Extremely shallow and it does not cover what a user manual should have (also, it fails to provide a programmers manual and a "hello world" example)"* I really am of the opinion that our GE and GEi are not software components that can be programmed against. Its about a spec you implement if you wish this kind of functionality to your application. Not a library that you can add this functionality to your application by reading a wiki page. This is a pretty complicated multi part system with a lot of moving parts. Yes, the client side can be changed by the programmer and there is some kind of JS lib that has an API. You can tweak the client to change the look and feel if you wish. I just don't see a easy way to boil this down to a trivial ~10-20 line "hello world" example. Are all fiware GEs/GEis really required to have a "hello world" example and be so trivial that this is actually feasible? I was under the impression that GEis are just examples on how the GE works. And that the GE spec is the important part that is the guide for developers to make their own implementations. I think our GE spec is solid and it does what was promised. Any comments? Anyone else having trouble figuring out on what to improve with the provided feedback? I'm sure the feedback is correct and I do need to work on the pages a bit more, but there is no direction. For me as a developer the pages are pretty straight forward and have already had other devs running Cloud Rendering successfully with my wiki pages. Best regards, Jonne Nauha Meshmoon developer at Adminotech Ltd. www.meshmoon.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Upfront, let me suggest that we share the table with demos and take turns (either at fixed intervals or (probably better) on demand as people ask for specific things). Regarding the talk, I would be happy to take that responsibility. I would plan to give an overview of the GEs (probably using some of the slides we have created for our workshop last week). I would then add a couple of slides for the applications that have been realized already. Please send me any material (slides and videos) that you think should be shown. Best, Philipp -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Best, Philipp -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [AR Standards Announcements] First mobile AR browser interoperability demonstration to take place Feb 25 Datum: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:01:43 +0100 Von: Christine Perey Antwort an: cperey at perey.com Organisation: PEREY Research & Consulting An: news at arstandards.org, discussion at arstandards.org Hello, It's official! The results of a collaborative effort involving metaio, Layar and Wikitude based on a jointly-defined architecture, a Common AR Interchange Format (CARIF) based on candidate OGC standard ARML 2.0 and an AR Launch URL scheme, will be publicly demonstrated on February 25. The AR Community's browser interoperability engineering group's proof of concept "custom browser" implementations will be demonstrated as part of the OGC "Location Standards for a Mobile World" seminar and reception at the ICC in Barcelona. Event information and agenda are found here . Register by completing this form . When using one of these custom AR browsers, content that was originally authored to work using one of the other AR browsers based on geospatial coordinates will load and support pre-defined functions. For more information about the architecture: http://www.perey.com/ARStandards/AR_Browser_Interoperability_Architecture_Jan_21_2014_v1_2.pdf The announcement was also picked up by Bruce Sterling and posted on his blog: http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2014/02/augmented-reality-interoperability-demo/ Congratulations to metaio, Layar and Wikitude! -- Christine Spime Wrangler cperey at perey.com @cperey Skype Christine_Perey Swiss mobile +41 (0) 79 436 6869 VoIP from anywhere +1 (617) 848-8159 bloghttp://www.spimewrangler.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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A little info about those two items from our standpoint: (1) Physics: The old standalone three.js Car demo is ported to Tundra & WebTundra now, to be used with the city or any other scene. Is a separate project with a minimal test scene. The idea is that because physics + custom physics code for a lot of objects is known to be a bottleneck in Tundra (from avatar apps & lots of users) it can be useful for mass apps on the web to avoid that by using client side physics. Client side logic & control of the ?own entity? (avatar, car, camera, ..) is nice also to avoid network latency with controls. The key is that the client deals with only the own single object, collisions of that with nearby objects, and not every collision in the whole scene (like the server typically does) ? that makes it relatively light for each client as well. The physics is ran in a Web worker so doesn?t block rendering. The code is on GitHub but there?s no demo on the web as we still don?t have Tundra servers up for public access (nor Meshmoon integration which would also solve this), https://github.com/playsign/WebTundraCar . This is all still custom code in that test app, to be refactored to a physics module for WebTundra in next steps. Then we could add support for reading rigidbody params from XML3D descriptions too to be able to run physics demos standalone (the only way currently to load a scene to WebTundra from a file, instead of a web socket connection to Tundra, is from a XML3D file ? like we use TXML with the c++ version). Also, with the physics module we could port the old standalone / offline version of Pong to use WebTundra?s physics abstraction instead of Ammo.js (Bullet) directly. (2) Custom components: Lasse from LudoCraft said they?ve began work with the previously discussed plan for better custom component support. AFAIK it boils down to JS code becoming able to define new component types: the data definition and a nice way to hook custom handling of the data. The Car from the Physics work seems like a good candidate as a test / demo case for that: WebTundraCar is currently implemented with the DynamicComponent system so that each car entity has a Car component which is handled by the app code to construct the cars from the body + wheels and create the physics etc. They don?t actually even use the Mesh component as the visualisation is a part of the Car component on the client side. So soon we?ll get to see how that works with the new system. Cheers, ~Toni From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Mon Feb 17 11:05:50 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:05:50 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Oulu bi-weekly tomorrow at 13 again In-Reply-To: <7C32ABC5-28CF-4634-BB86-12C1EA330EE8@playsign.net> References: <7C32ABC5-28CF-4634-BB86-12C1EA330EE8@playsign.net> Message-ID: FYI all, Cyberlightning is moving to new (bigger) premises tomorrow, so we are not able to join. Our new address starting tomorrow will be Teknologiantie 2. See you later then! - jarkko On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Toni Alatalo wrote: > Hi, > > welcome again tomorrow for the Oulu bi-weekly, at 13 here at > M?kelininkatu. Just a basic status check in the usually agile style: demos > of things done, next plans and informing / discussion of possible problems. > > We can at least demo WebTundra client side physics(1) and Lasse just told > on IRC that they've begun work on the custom components support(2). About > others I don't know of but hopefully we'll hear latest in the meet then -- > please do post agenda items or links to code / demos at will beforehand > too. A little info about those two items from our standpoint: > > (1) Physics: The old standalone three.js Car demo is ported to Tundra & > WebTundra now, to be used with the city or any other scene. Is a separate > project with a minimal test scene. The idea is that because physics + > custom physics code for a lot of objects is known to be a bottleneck in > Tundra (from avatar apps & lots of users) it can be useful for mass apps on > the web to avoid that by using client side physics. Client side logic & > control of the 'own entity' (avatar, car, camera, ..) is nice also to avoid > network latency with controls. The key is that the client deals with only > the own single object, collisions of that with nearby objects, and not > every collision in the whole scene (like the server typically does) -- that > makes it relatively light for each client as well. The physics is ran in a > Web worker so doesn't block rendering. The code is on GitHub but there's no > demo on the web as we still don't have Tundra servers up for public access > (nor Meshmoon integration which would also solve this), > https://github.com/playsign/WebTundraCar . > > This is all still custom code in that test app, to be refactored to a > physics module for WebTundra in next steps. Then we could add support for > reading rigidbody params from XML3D descriptions too to be able to run > physics demos standalone (the only way currently to load a scene to > WebTundra from a file, instead of a web socket connection to Tundra, is > from a XML3D file -- like we use TXML with the c++ version). Also, with the > physics module we could port the old standalone / offline version of Pong > to use WebTundra's physics abstraction instead of Ammo.js (Bullet) directly. > > (2) Custom components: Lasse from LudoCraft said they've began work with > the previously discussed plan for better custom component support. AFAIK it > boils down to JS code becoming able to define new component types: the data > definition and a nice way to hook custom handling of the data. The Car from > the Physics work seems like a good candidate as a test / demo case for > that: WebTundraCar is currently implemented with the DynamicComponent > system so that each car entity has a Car component which is handled by the > app code to construct the cars from the body + wheels and create the > physics etc. They don't actually even use the Mesh component as the > visualisation is a part of the Car component on the client side. So soon > we'll get to see how that works with the new system. > > Cheers, > ~Toni > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Tue Feb 18 17:37:09 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:37:09 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 13:00CET ?! Message-ID: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> Hi I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 already from tomorrow. Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 with lectures. So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the weekly meeting. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Tue Feb 18 17:42:44 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:42:44 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 13:00CET ?! In-Reply-To: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: For tomorrow, a timeslot of 12-13 CET (hence 13-14 Finnish time) would work for me. Otherwise I am tied up. - jarkko On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > Hi > > I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. > (If 13h does not work for the majority I'm open for other proposals > anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) > > The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 > already from tomorrow. > Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 > with lectures. > So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the > weekly meeting. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Tue Feb 18 17:49:00 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:49:00 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 13:00CET ?! In-Reply-To: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: > Hi > > I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. > (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals > anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) > > The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 > already from tomorrow. > Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 > with lectures. > So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the > weekly meeting. Hi, all those times are OK for me tomorrow. -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From Carmen at grassroots-arts.eu Mon Feb 17 10:15:53 2014 From: Carmen at grassroots-arts.eu (carmen mac williams) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:15:53 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] [AR Standards Announcements] First mobile AR browser interoperability demonstration to take place Feb 25 In-Reply-To: <5300F799.9000704@dfki.de> References: <52FA1F37.7020202@perey.com> <5300F799.9000704@dfki.de> Message-ID: <00a801cf2bc0$dc3f12b0$94bd3810$@grassroots-arts.eu> Great news Best carmen Von: Philipp Slusallek [mailto:Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de] Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Februar 2014 18:39 An: FI-WARE, MiWi; FI-Content2, WP4 Cc: XML3D mailing list Betreff: Fwd: [AR Standards Announcements] First mobile AR browser interoperability demonstration to take place Feb 25 Hi, Here is a nice announcement from the big "AR browser" vendors. It seems to me that we should be able to replicate the same experience with our GEs in a couple of days or so :-). Should be take this as a challenge and publish the results on a smartphone? Would be a nice story for CeBIT. Also, I am sure that Christine woul be happy to post the result and we might even be able to get mentioned at the event (even though the big players will probable not be very happy about it :-). Best, Philipp -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [AR Standards Announcements] First mobile AR browser interoperability demonstration to take place Feb 25 Datum: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:01:43 +0100 Von: Christine Perey Antwort an: cperey at perey.com Organisation: PEREY Research & Consulting An: news at arstandards.org , discussion at arstandards.org Hello, It's official! The results of a collaborative effort involving metaio, Layar and Wikitude based on a jointly-defined architecture, a Common AR Interchange Format (CARIF) based on candidate OGC standard ARML 2.0 and an AR Launch URL scheme, will be publicly demonstrated on February 25. The AR Community's browser interoperability engineering group's proof of concept "custom browser" implementations will be demonstrated as part of the OGC "Location Standards for a Mobile World" seminar and reception at the ICC in Barcelona. Event information and agenda are found here . Register by completing this form . When using one of these custom AR browsers, content that was originally authored to work using one of the other AR browsers based on geospatial coordinates will load and support pre-defined functions. For more information about the architecture: http://www.perey.com/ARStandards/AR_Browser_Interoperability_Architecture_Ja n_21_2014_v1_2.pdf The announcement was also picked up by Bruce Sterling and posted on his blog: http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2014/02/augmented-reality-interoperab ility-demo/ Congratulations to metaio, Layar and Wikitude! -- Christine Spime Wrangler cperey at perey.com @cperey Skype Christine_Perey Swiss mobile +41 (0) 79 436 6869 VoIP from anywhere +1 (617) 848-8159 blog http://www.spimewrangler.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Otherwise I am tied up. > > - jarkko > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Marti Christof (mach) > wrote: > > Hi > > I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. > (If 13h does not work for the majority I'm open for other > proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) > > The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from > 10-12 already from tomorrow. > Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed > 10-16:45 with lectures. > So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for > the weekly meeting. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Wed Feb 19 09:28:19 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:28:19 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 13:00CET ?! In-Reply-To: <53046825.8080002@dfki.de> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> <53046825.8080002@dfki.de> Message-ID: <7640AF9B-41A6-405F-9A8D-AE706FF8018E@playsign.net> same here. On 19 Feb 2014, at 10:15, Torsten Spieldenner wrote: > Hello, > > Both 12 and 13 CET work for me. > > ~Torsten > > Am 2/18/2014 5:42 PM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> For tomorrow, a timeslot of 12-13 CET (hence 13-14 Finnish time) would work for me. Otherwise I am tied up. >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. >> (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) >> >> The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 already from tomorrow. >> Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 with lectures. >> So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the weekly meeting. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 19 09:53:44 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:53:44 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 12:00CET ?! In-Reply-To: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> Hi OK. Lets do the meeting at 12:00 CET. Cheers Christof Am 18.02.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > Hi > > I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. > (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) > > The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 already from tomorrow. > Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 with lectures. > So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the weekly meeting. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Wed Feb 19 10:49:24 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:49:24 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 12:00CET ?! In-Reply-To: <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <53047E24.70702@cie.fi> 12:00 CET is Ok for CIE. Could we, please, have the meeting by Google Hangout. We have found that it is much easier to follow the conversation in Hangout because the quality of voice is significantly better. BR Ari, Arto, & Antti On 19.2.2014 10:53, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > Hi > > OK. Lets do the meeting at 12:00 CET. > > Cheers > Christof > > Am 18.02.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > >> Hi >> >> I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. >> (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) >> >> The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 already from tomorrow. >> Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 with lectures. >> So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the weekly meeting. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Wed Feb 19 12:03:00 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:03:00 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone MIWI meeting to 12:00CET ?! In-Reply-To: <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Christof, Did you make the minutes template already? Thanks, - jarkko On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > Hi > > OK. Lets do the meeting at 12:00 CET. > > Cheers > Christof > > Am 18.02.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > > > Hi > > > > I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. > > (If 13h does not work for the majority I'm open for other proposals > anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) > > > > The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 > already from tomorrow. > > Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed > 10-16:45 with lectures. > > So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the > weekly meeting. > > > > Best regards > > Christof > > ---- > > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch > > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > > School of Engineering > > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > > Skype: christof-marti > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have found that > it is much easier to follow the conversation in Hangout because the > quality of voice is significantly better. > > BR > Ari, Arto, & Antti > > On 19.2.2014 10:53, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: >> Hi >> >> OK. Lets do the meeting at 12:00 CET. >> >> Cheers >> Christof >> >> Am 18.02.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. >>> (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) >>> >>> The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 already from tomorrow. >>> Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 with lectures. >>> So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the weekly meeting. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > > -- > Ari Okkonen > CIE, University of Oulu > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Wed Feb 19 15:37:12 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:37:12 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes aganda & hangout In-Reply-To: <2EC10D05-84F6-4168-BAF6-98B8B9724637@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> <5a3d450509a4456f8617deb3c06190fd@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <2EC10D05-84F6-4168-BAF6-98B8B9724637@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hi, Question about reacting to the comments in the WP13 architecture deliverable review. Do we make the fixes in the original wiki documents? - Lasse > Hi > > We can try. Sorry I am a bit late. > > Here is the link to the minutes: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit > and a Hangout-Link: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpi358pd6hk9k5m8hiaaqgpk?hl=de > > Christof -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 19 16:08:19 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:08:19 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes aganda & hangout In-Reply-To: <35d24613d20145c2bc920e83a5c426c4@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> <5a3d450509a4456f8617deb3c06190fd@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <2EC10D05-84F6-4168-BAF6-98B8B9724637@zhaw.ch> <35d24613d20145c2bc920e83a5c426c4@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <2B17DB26-C5EB-4AAD-8EEE-45B558FF1B34@zhaw.ch> yes - Christof Am 19.02.2014 um 15:37 schrieb Lasse ??rni : > Hi, > Question about reacting to the comments in the WP13 architecture > deliverable review. Do we make the fixes in the original wiki documents? > > - Lasse > >> Hi >> >> We can try. Sorry I am a bit late. >> >> Here is the link to the minutes: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit >> and a Hangout-Link: >> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpi358pd6hk9k5m8hiaaqgpk?hl=de >> >> Christof > > -- > Lasse ??rni > Game Programmer > LudoCraft Ltd. > > From antti.kokko at adminotech.com Thu Feb 20 07:11:25 2014 From: antti.kokko at adminotech.com (Antti Kokko) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:11:25 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes aganda & hangout In-Reply-To: <2B17DB26-C5EB-4AAD-8EEE-45B558FF1B34@zhaw.ch> References: <9C743187-FEBB-420E-8210-52D79C307B52@zhaw.ch> <046AE010-AD39-4815-9681-A717A6FC5406@zhaw.ch> <5a3d450509a4456f8617deb3c06190fd@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <2EC10D05-84F6-4168-BAF6-98B8B9724637@zhaw.ch> <35d24613d20145c2bc920e83a5c426c4@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <2B17DB26-C5EB-4AAD-8EEE-45B558FF1B34@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello, >>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqLSWp0KXaaDdGZ0ekFhREgyMFdoT1owZ1BYdFlnbGc&usp=docslist_api#gid=2 2D-UI part fixed. Best, - Antti On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > yes > - Christof > Am 19.02.2014 um 15:37 schrieb Lasse ??rni : > > > Hi, > > Question about reacting to the comments in the WP13 architecture > > deliverable review. Do we make the fixes in the original wiki documents? > > > > - Lasse > > > >> Hi > >> > >> We can try. Sorry I am a bit late. > >> > >> Here is the link to the minutes: > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit > >> and a Hangout-Link: > >> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpi358pd6hk9k5m8hiaaqgpk?hl=de > >> > >> Christof > > > > -- > > Lasse ??rni > > Game Programmer > > LudoCraft Ltd. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry I am a bit late. > > Here is the link to the minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WNW1SHTI87XEr9ZvBzE23555HzYHtMMsryy-XI_7868/edit > and a Hangout-Link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpi358pd6hk9k5m8hiaaqgpk?hl=de > > Christof > > > > Am 19.02.2014 um 10:49 schrieb Ari Okkonen CIE : > >> 12:00 CET is Ok for CIE. >> >> Could we, please, have the meeting by Google Hangout. We have found that >> it is much easier to follow the conversation in Hangout because the >> quality of voice is significantly better. >> >> BR >> Ari, Arto, & Antti >> >> On 19.2.2014 10:53, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> OK. Lets do the meeting at 12:00 CET. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Christof >>> >>> Am 18.02.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I have to postpone tomorrows MIWI meeting to 13:00 CET. >>>> (If 13h does not work for the majority I?m open for other proposals anything between 12-16 CET is OK for me) >>>> >>>> The timetable for my lectures changed and I have classes from 10-12 already from tomorrow. >>>> Starting next week (until end of May) I will be blocked every Wed 10-16:45 with lectures. >>>> So one topic of tomorrows meeting will be to find a new slot for the weekly meeting. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> ---- >>>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch >>>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>>> School of Engineering >>>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>>> Skype: christof-marti >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ari Okkonen >> CIE, University of Oulu >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Thu Feb 20 12:11:04 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:11:04 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Cebit In-Reply-To: <53012EBE.50107@dfki.de> References: <53012EBE.50107@dfki.de> Message-ID: Hello, Regarding to the Cebit schedule, it seems doable for CYberlightning. We will provide our contribution to the demonstration part. I take all this is happening at the exhibition side, not in the conference? Exhibition ticket is 120 EURO and conference pass is 1000 EURO for the whole time, so which one we should pick for this purpose? - jarkko On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Philipp Slusallek < Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for the delay: Here is the link for the official CeBIT Program for > the Future Talk. The FI-C2/FI-WARE day is Wednesday (easy to spot): > http://www.cebit.de/event/future-talk/SON/56233 > > I attached plots of the space for your reference. > > Also attached is an email Juanjo sent to the WPL/WPA which apparently did > not get forwarded to all because Christof is not available (and I did not > read it until today :-( ). > > As discussed in the call on Wednesday, we should plan the demos and the > one speaker slot in our next call. Unfortunately, I am on a conference on > Wednesday but hope to be able to call in somehow. > > Upfront, let me suggest that we share the table with demos and take turns > (either at fixed intervals or (probably better) on demand as people ask for > specific things). > > Regarding the talk, I would be happy to take that responsibility. I would > plan to give an overview of the GEs (probably using some of the slides we > have created for our workshop last week). I would then add a couple of > slides for the applications that have been realized already. > > Please send me any material (slides and videos) that you think should be > shown. > > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Which way we go? - jarkko ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Date: Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM Subject: [Fiware-ge-owners] Backlog content - updated reviews available - request for action To: "fiware-ge-owners at lists.fi-ware.eu" Cc: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , " fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" Dear Partners, Find linked updated reviews of the backlog content. The number of criteria applied has reached the same level before Christmas, except wiki descriptions. Before implementing descriptions I'm trying to reach synchronization with Technical Roadmap and Unit Tests. *CONGRATULATIONS TO* the following GE Owners for having ERROR-FREE reviews *Javier Lucio for Apps - RSSS* *Markus Laumer for Data - Codoan* *Susana G. Zarzosa for Security - PRRS* Although reviewers aren't complete, I think it's possible to take advantage of current reviewers. Apps: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3431/FIWARE.backlog.apps.review.20140219.xlsx Cloud: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3432/FIWARE.backlog.cloud.review.20140219.xlsx IoT: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3435/FIWARE.backlog.iot.review.20140219.xlsx Data: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3433/FIWARE.backlog.data.review.20140219.xlsx I2ND: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3434/FIWARE.backlog.i2nd.review.20140219.xlsx Security: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3437/FIWARE.backlog.security.review.20140219.xlsx MiWi: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/3436/FIWARE.backlog.miwi.review.20140219.xlsx If any explanation or support were needed, please, don't hesitate to let me know. 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URL: From stefan.lemme at dfki.de Thu Feb 20 19:32:26 2014 From: stefan.lemme at dfki.de (Stefan Lemme) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:32:26 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: POI Data Provider GE Message-ID: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> Hello, after our workshop last week a few questions about the POI Data Provider raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. * Is there a GE implementation available beside the one packaged at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/frs/?group_id=7#title_miwi-poidataprovider and the probably same in the github repository at https://github.com/Chiru/WeX/tree/master/poi ? * Is there further specification of the data components available beside the draft of the open API specification at http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/POI_Data_Provider_Open_API_Specification_(DRAFT)#Data_Component_Structures**? * There is a mismatch between the JSON schema and data provided by the POI-DP implementation regarding the "name" of a POI, for instance. * How to realize relative POIs? * Where is the incoming data validated to comply with the specification, e.g. JSON schema? * Wouldn't it be better to reference a remote xml3d element directly by URI instead of string-encode dom elements? * Which ontology is used for the category of a POI? How to handle POIs referring to multiple categories? And what about tags? (All with regard to multi-lingual content) * What entities are referred by UUIDs through source.id and last_update.responsible? I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open questions. Best regards, Stefan -- ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 66123 Saarbr?cken Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 5391 Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web ******************************************************** Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Stra?e 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ ******************************************************** ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agents and Simulated Reality Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 D-66123 Saarbruecken Germany Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 5391 Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web ******************************************************** German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Management Board: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) Dr. Walter Olthoff Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ******************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Thu Feb 20 19:48:46 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:48:46 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: POI Data Provider GE In-Reply-To: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> References: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> Message-ID: <83bc4e55e77d1a0b63a6eb22b10fd8ed@mailserver8.nebula.fi> Thank you! Very good questions. We try to figure out answers to them very soon. BR Ari On 2014-02-20 20:32, Stefan Lemme wrote: > Hello, > > after our workshop last week a few questions about the POI Data > Provider raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. > > * Is there a GE implementation available beside the one packaged at > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/frs/?group_id=7#title_miwi-poidataprovider > [2] and the probably same in the github repository at > https://github.com/Chiru/WeX/tree/master/poi [3] ? > * Is there further specification of the data components available > beside the draft of the open API specification at > http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/POI_Data_Provider_Open_API_Specification_(DRAFT)#Data_Component_Structures > [4] ? > * There is a mismatch between the JSON schema and data provided by > the POI-DP implementation regarding the "name" of a POI, for instance. > * How to realize relative POIs? > * Where is the incoming data validated to comply with the > specification, e.g. JSON schema? > * Wouldn't it be better to reference a remote xml3d element directly > by URI instead of string-encode dom elements? > * Which ontology is used for the category of a POI? How to handle > POIs referring to multiple categories? And what about tags? (All with > regard to multi-lingual content) > > * What entities are referred by UUIDs through source.id and > last_update.responsible? > > I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open > questions. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web [1] > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web [1] > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ******************************************************** > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.dfki.de/web > [2] https://forge.fi-ware.eu/frs/?group_id=7#title_miwi-poidataprovider > [3] https://github.com/Chiru/WeX/tree/master/poi > [4] > http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/POI_Data_Provider_Open_API_Specification_(DRAFT)#Data_Component_Structures -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu From stefan.lemme at dfki.de Thu Feb 20 19:58:09 2014 From: stefan.lemme at dfki.de (Stefan Lemme) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:58:09 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: Augmented Reality GE Message-ID: <53065041.9010605@dfki.de> Hello, after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented Reality GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript and hopefully also Xflow? * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in particular to be used on mobile devices? I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open questions. Best regards, Stefan -- ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 66123 Saarbr?cken Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 5391 Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web ******************************************************** Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Stra?e 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ ******************************************************** ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agents and Simulated Reality Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 D-66123 Saarbruecken Germany Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 5391 Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web ******************************************************** German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Management Board: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) Dr. Walter Olthoff Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ******************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Fri Feb 21 00:45:13 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:45:13 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: POI Data Provider GE In-Reply-To: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> References: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> Message-ID: <4161BE74-9F3E-4C0A-898B-9BDD1B031475@playsign.net> On 20 Feb 2014, at 20:32, Stefan Lemme wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to reference a remote xml3d element directly by URI instead of string-encode dom elements? I?m not involved with the POI work but from a 3D-UI perspective I wonder whether both ways have merits. I imagine embedding some simple for example icon type graphics or why not even simple meshes might be handy in the same JSON. It is then simply a part of the POI data .. POIs can have long textual descriptions embedded, the text for those is I imagine typically not gotten from a separate sources. Seems sensible to allow including also 3D vis data the same way, no? On the other hand I imagine images are always references? ? then again those tend to be big, except exactly simple icons and so. A simple 3D thing can be tiny, not much different from a long text desc. Hm, and with XML3D it can be anything basically, no? For example: . Or perhaps more interestingly: or: That is: the xml3d elements can be a self-contained declaration of the 3d for the POI, using only the POI data. Yet perhaps such visualisation template / logic doesn?t belong to the POI data. This old POI - 3D-UI demo / test online, has that kind of POI 3D visualisation, with just simple bubble plates for name texts: http://playsign.tklapp.com:8000/POIThreeJS/POI.html (best with chrome, the mouse handling there has a quirk on firefox). So here the 3d for the POI is just the visualisation style (the city buildings are in the 3d scene, not from POI data there). I think we don?t want such vis logic in the POI data but in the whatever views the apps have. I mean the red bubbles, that sort of things you?d get with the etc. So yes I also figure the idea in the POI data is to ref to external 3d vis data which often further uses a mesh, textures, shaders etc. But it may be the case for the practicality of just embedding e.g. simple mesh geom still holds - I?m too tired to think through now really. Anyhow I?d also think that URIs there are necessary. That is in fact how we were planning the use of the 3d city models in a city AR setting, in the prev Tue meet: we'll make POIs for the buildings which then ref to the Oulu3D buildings which are on the Web otherwise already. Definitely good that the POI & AR biz doesn?t need to touch the 3d data in such (hopefully normal) case that they can just happily use the normal city service web version?s data. We probably need to deal with LoD levels there etc anyhow also for the VW use so is probably a good idea to use the same system also for the mobile devices for the single-house (a POI) use case we discussed then. poor disclaimer: i?m not sure if i understood your point correctly as haven?t read the specs and all - just commenting as it is then the 3D-UI's job to deal with that data .. make it show, either from the given string or uri. Anyway that?s probably trivial for the guys to go either way in the spec and easy enough to deal with in the codes etc so I?m sure there are no problems with this. But seems like a good catch, thanks from our part as well! ~Toni P.S. Was fun to test the looks of reX ECs as XML3D there again. Because those two example xml elements, ?hoveringtext? and ?billboard? are not standard xml3d elements, not in those specs. But they are existing realXtend components so with the reX EC <-> xml3d mapping we have that?s about how they look. http://doc.meshmoon.com/doxygen/component_base.html is the list of current in native Tundra is someone?s curious to check those or others out. > Which ontology is used for the category of a POI? How to handle POIs referring to multiple categories? And what about tags? (All with regard to multi-lingual content) > What entities are referred by UUIDs through source.id and last_update.responsible? > I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open questions. > Best regards, > Stefan > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ******************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Thu Feb 20 20:04:36 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:04:36 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-cebit] Locations for the demo tables, Re: Catching-up with the CeBIT Future Internet event In-Reply-To: <18F0705A-B8E5-42E2-9C1E-6A5651140B5C@dfki.de> References: <18F0705A-B8E5-42E2-9C1E-6A5651140B5C@dfki.de> Message-ID: <530651C4.3040703@dfki.de> Hi, Here is some important information for the CeBIT event for those that are preparing/coming. Best, Philipp -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Fiware-cebit] Locations for the demo tables, Re: Catching-up with the CeBIT Future Internet event Datum: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:07:49 +0100 Von: Reinhard Karger An: fiware-cebit at lists.fi-ware.eu Hi all, Nga Tran sent me numerous questions and the answers could be of value for all members of the list. > Dear Reinhard, > > Please find hereafter our questions regarding the logistic and exhibition for the CEBIT. It would be great appreciated if you could give us the answer before next Monday (24 Feb. EOB) > > 1. We would need in total 3 flat screens for FIcontent (plus one for the shared information table FI-WARE/FIcontent/FI-PPP if FI-WARE confirmed). We updated the google doc. Thank you for confirming the order. I passed the order to Panel 5. It seems 6 flat screens + 1 Smart TV are needed. Panel 5 said that they cannot provide Smart TVs and I understood that in this situation in total 7 screens + pedestals are needed. But I do not understand who will get the invoice and exactly who will pay for the rented screens. What can we do? The best would be: 1 address! > 2. We would like to track the registrations with the links you sent us as we might need to do the last promotion. Would you let us know if it is possible? > > https://www.cebit.de/en/applikation/secure/registration/tickets/?code=uoofv > https://www.cebit.de/en/applikation/secure/registration/tickets/?code=yahhn > https://www.cebit.de/en/applikation/secure/registration/tickets/?code=t68xc > https://www.cebit.de/en/applikation/secure/registration/tickets/?code=cwh7u > https://www.cebit.de/en/applikation/secure/registration/tickets/?code=a55hh It will be possible, I will find out and keep you posted. > 3. What is included in the package for the catering i.e welcome breakfast, lunch buffet, drinks, coffee during the whole day for juste for the breaks? Where the catering will be placed (Stehtische, next to the demo tables)? Catering was never ordered. This was decided during the telco we had back in January 6th. > 4. Will we have access to the referenten/kuche/technik spaces? We might need to stock our boxes, some materials during the day, any room is planned for that? Yes. > 5. Do you have the delivery address/procedure/timing of CEBIT? I am not sure that I understand the question. future talk forum has coordinates: Hall 9, F44 Postal address is: CeBIT future talk 2014 Hall 9, F44 Messegel?nde D-30521 Hannover Germany You find lots of English information visiting: http://www.cebit.de/home > 6. Is there any panels next to the demo tables where we hang our posters on? Not to my knowledge. The best would be to bring roll-ups and to use the rented screens to present content. > 7. The demo tables will be fixed on the floor? What is provided with table (how many chairs, sockets, Internet cables?) The demo tables are not fixed to the floor. The tables are bar-height bistro tables and come with two bistro chairs each. Electricity and Internet is provided. Multiple socket-outlets with - I guess - 3 sockets per table are available. > 8. Would it be possible to have some pictures of the Hall 9? It will help us to organise our decoration. I attached a picture of Hall 9. Of course I do not have pictures of all the booths that are surrounding the future talk forum. DFKI will look like this: http://www.dfki.de/web/aktuelles/cebit2014/index_html/plonearticle_image_popup?image_id=951ea5bd59f70fa348d21bb18813c389 > 9. How are oriented the tables, towards the inside of the conference room or facing the corridors? future talk is an open forum so the tables are facing the corridors to attract visitors. Attached you find the floor plan of hall 9. > 10. Who will be our on-site contact in case there is any problem? Depends on the problem. I will take care... but there are limits! ;-) Please remember: Everybody that wants to enter the fairground needs a ticket for himself! So do not forget to register in advance! The CeBIT ticket works as a ticket for public transportation in Hannover - so it will bring you from Hannover city to the fair ground. If you want to leave the train in walking distance to the fair ground the name of the station is: Hannover Messe/Laatzen. > 11. Would it be possible to fill in the agenda Future Talk on the CeBIT website? Please update the shared document - and I take care - but please update first. Deadline is March 3rd! Some slots are still looking for their presenter: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNGoA5Ii_6cdC1XRVZnVnp1TFhUcktUaUROMldKQ3c#gid=0 Hope that helps! Greetings from Germany! Reinhard > Thank you very much in advance for your help, > > Best regards, > > Nga > > On 18 Feb 2014, at 07:54, Roger Torrenti wrote: > >> A vous de jouer >> >> De : Juanjo Hierro >> Date : mardi 18 f?vrier 2014 07:21 >> ? : Reinhard Karger , Roger Torrenti , "Prof.,Dr. Philipp Slusallek" , "Sekretariat FB ASR, DFKI" , ATOS - Nuria de Lama , CARLOS RALLI UCENDO , "jhierro >> \"Juan J. Hierro\"" >> Objet : Re: Locations for the demo tables, Re: Catching-up with the CeBIT Future Internet event >> >> On 13/02/14 11:08, Reinhard Karger wrote: >>> Hi Juanjo and all, >>> >>> I forwarded your mail to CeBIT so they will get in touch with you regarding the invoice. >>> >>> I will pass on the flat screen rental info. It seems that there are 3 flat screens for FI-WARE. In this case Juanjo would get the invoice from Panel 5 (the company that rents out the flat screens including logistics, installation, pedestals). Correct? >> >> I guess each project should take care of the invoice associated to >> the flat screens it's going to rent. Otherwise, it may lead to >> difficulties when dealing with justification of costs to the EC. >>> >>> I will talk to Panel 5 to find out whether they can provide a recent Samsung smart TV Set for: Social Connected TV (if they can Roger Torrenti would get the invoice?). >>> >>> Attached you see the planned locations for the demo tables (Internet (LAN) and power is provided). In this moment they are labeled: FI Demo Table 1-7. >>> >>> We should make an assignment of the demos in the spreadsheet to the indicated locations. >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNGoA5Ii_6cdC1XRVZnVnp1TFhUcktUaUROMldKQ3c#gid=0 >>> 1 Project Information about FI-WARE & FI-Content & FI-PPP >>> 2 FI-WARE Cloud Hosting services >>> 3 Media and Streaming in FI-WARE >>> 4 Building Interactive 3D Application in HTML-5 (XML3D) with FI-WARE >>> 5 Social Connected TV >>> 6 Media-oriented smart city services based on FI-Content >>> 7 Pervasive Games: Gaming in the Real World with Augmented Reality >>> >>> I would propose the following mapping: >>> >>> FI Demo Table 1 -> FI-WARE Cloud Hosting services >>> FI Demo Table 2 -> Media and Streaming in FI-WARE >>> FI Demo Table 3 -> Building Interactive 3D Application in HTML-5 (XML3D) with FI-WARE >>> FI Demo Table 4 -> Project Information about FI-WARE & FI-Content & FI-PPP >>> FI Demo Table 5 -> Social Connected TV >>> FI Demo Table 6 -> Media-oriented smart city services based on FI-Content >>> FI Demo Table 7 -> Pervasive Games: Gaming in the Real World with Augmented Reality >>> >>> Please have a look and feel free to rearrange the mapping. >> >> Sorry but the rationale of the locations it's completely unclear to >> me ... Are we going to have tables right at the side where people is >> seated hearing the speeches ? That is what seems to be suggested >> regarding position of tables 1, 2, 6 and 7 ... That would go against the >> main purpose for the tables, i.e., be able to receive further >> explanations about any topic addressed at a high-level during the >> speeches ... Is people going to live with someone providing explanations >> in a table close to him while he is trying to hear any of the >> speeches. Maybe it is because I don't interpret well the map, but >> that looks absolutely non-sense to me. >> >> I thought we have to live with placing all the tables in the space >> labeled as "Stehtische" where the "Infotheke" is placed (whatever these >> two words means :-) Doesn't make more sense ? As far as I >> understand, this is a space 8m x 8,5m = 68 m2 where I guess we shall be >> able to place 3 tables on each side, then placing the table providing >> info about FI-WARE, FI-Content2 and the FI-PPP in the area labeled as >> "Infotheke" ... Doesn't this have more sense ? >> >> Last but not least, I would like to suggest that we setup a mailing >> list to carry out further discussion. Otherwise, we may miss some >> people in copy of some messages ... And I can anticipate that exchange >> of mails will be intensive in the following weeks ... We can create such >> mailing list in a matter of seconds ... although it may need to be >> titled as fiware-xxxx at lists.fi-ware.eu (I suggest >> fiware-cebit at lists.fi-ware.eu). Let me know if it would be ok for you >> and I will create it right away. Please copy Carlos Ralli on the >> discussions until a mailing list is created. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Reinhard >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 13.02.2014 um 05:41 schrieb Juanjo Hierro : >>> >>>> Hi Reinhard, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your response. >>>> >>>> Could you advise us whom from the CeBIT organization should we contact in order to deal with the payments ? Javier de Pedro, in copy, should take care of it. >>>> >>>> With regards to the rental of flat screens, I filled the shared google docs spreadsheet asking for three flat screens for the three tables assigned to FI-WARE ... It was a surprise for me that you don't plan to have flat screens regarding the tables on media-oriented smart city services and gaming ... don't you plan to have any sort of demo in these tables ? >>>> >>>> BTW ... Do we have any ideas regarding where the tables will be located ? Will it be the space labeled/titled as "Stehtische" in the maps you forwarded to us ? I guess we need to find out how that space should be arranged. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> -- Juanjo >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------- >>>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>>> website: >>>> www.tid.es >>>> >>>> email: >>>> jhierro at tid.es >>>> >>>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>>> >>>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >>>> and Chief Architect >>>> >>>> FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >>>> >>>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>>> website: >>>> http://www.fi-ware.eu >>>> >>>> facebook: >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>>> >>>> twitter: >>>> http://twitter.com/FIware >>>> >>>> linkedIn: >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>>> On 11/02/14 17:30, Reinhard Karger wrote: >>>>> Dear Juanjo and all, >>>>> >>>>> the latest agenda for March 12 you find at: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cebit.de/event/future-talk/SON/56233 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> CeBIT still needs your postal address at Telefonica and the VAT number - they have everything from Sigma Orionis :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> CeBIT needs the postal addresses for the invoices and the VAT numbers to prove that your companies are outside of the German VAT tax region. I sent them what I had. For Telefonica they need the postal address and the VAT number; for Sigma Orionis they only need the VAT number: >>>>>> >>>>>> Juanjo Hierro >>>>>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>>>>> website: >>>>>> www.tid.es >>>>>> >>>>>> email: >>>>>> jhierro at tid.es >>>>> Attached you find sort of ?iOS7-style? visualizations of the future talk forum. I will talk with CeBIT where we can place the 7 demo tables. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Whom should we contact to deal with dressing of the booths (renting flat screens, producing vinyls for walls, etc) >>>>>> >>>>> Please use the Google spreadsheet to indicate the number of flat screens to rent. I added a field in the shared document to collect information about the number of flat screens that should be rented - would be good to get the information sort of fast: >>>>> -> Yes / No: Rented flat screen needed - Samsung 40" full HD - (ads 420 Euro per screen, excl.of VAT) >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNGoA5Ii_6cdC1XRVZnVnp1TFhUcktUaUROMldKQ3c#gid=0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You asked for "producing vinyls for walls". Honestly I don?t know. Remember that we will have demo tables not demo booths. I would recommend to use roll-ups that you probably have produced and used in presentations before. >>>>> >>>>> Greetings >>>>> >>>>> Reinhard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 11.02.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Juanjo Hierro >>>>> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Reinhard and all, >>>>>> >>>>>> We have been very busy the last couple of weeks dealing with several issues and I would like now to catch up regarding the CeBIT event. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm copying Nuria de Lama from ATOS whom I would like to involve on our side. >>>>>> >>>>>> May someone summarize where we are and what we need to prepare/provide on our side (FI-WARE) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Some first questions to ask: >>>>>> ? Where can we find the latest draft of the agenda ? >>>>>> ? Do we have a layout design for the space so that we understand how many and what kind of spaces/booths we have to "dress" ? Whom should we contact to deal with dressing of the booths (renting flat screens, producing vinyls for walls, etc) >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> -- Juanjo >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>>>>> website: >>>>>> >>>>>> www.tid.es >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> email: >>>>>> >>>>>> jhierro at tid.es >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>>>>> >>>>>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator >>>>>> and Chief Architect >>>>>> >>>>>> FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman >>>>>> >>>>>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>>>>> website: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.fi-ware.eu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> facebook: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> twitter: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/FIware >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> linkedIn: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Except for the Security Data Handling GE API (Ch 16) I would ask Adminotech to take over the review, because the rest of the ZHAW part is quite extensive. The first chapter is always equivalent to the Architecture (marked with an A in the dashboard), where you already did the review. So goal is to focus on the Open API Chapters. But if you find some inconsistency with the architecture it should be remarked. Deadline: Monday noon (The earlier the better). If this is not possible for you, please let me know. Best regards Christof ---- Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Feb 21 07:54:59 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:54:59 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Coordination meeting for WP13 CeBit participation Message-ID: Hi Philipp, hi everybody We discussed in the weekly meeting, that we should have a short dedicated meeting with all interested partner to coordinate the CeBIT contribution of WP13. Do you have any time for a short hangout. @Philipp: I heard you are busy today, but maybe Monday morning or later afternoon? Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Fri Feb 21 07:58:32 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:58:32 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Coordination meeting for WP13 CeBit participation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, short hangout works for me. Just let me know the timing. - jarkko On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi Philipp, hi everybody > > We discussed in the weekly meeting, that we should have a short dedicated > meeting with all interested partner to coordinate the CeBIT contribution of > WP13. 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(3) Natural Feature Image: A natural feature image is simply an image, it might be computer generated or taken by a camera. The image doesn't have any borders nor doesn't necessarily have to be square or rectangular. There are multiple versions of ALVAR with different level of features supported. The one that have been ported to javascript is called ALVAR MOBILE. It supports detecting and tracking markers(1) and image markers(2). The image markers must have a clearly recognizable border and the contents must not have too much detail but rather be made up of solid shapes or big block letters. The ideal resolution for image markers is spanning from 8x8 to 32x32. There is already a version that exposes the detecting and tracking image markers through Xflow: https://github.com/Cyberlightning/Cyber-WeX/blob/master/DataflowProcessing/demos/xflowAR/index.php. I haven't included this to the AR GE yet, because there is serious problems with accuracy and performance with mobile devices. There is also an another version called ALVAR Tracker, that implements a generic 6DOF tracker but can also be adapted to detect and track (3) natural feature images. This version is not ported to javascript nor won't be ported in near future. The ALVAR Mobile was ported to javascript using emscripten and this was quite an easy process because the ALVAR Mobile doesn't have any third party dependencies. However this isn't the case with the ALVAR Tracker. The guys on VTT thought that trying to port it to javascript is much bigger task, and because it has a multi-threaded AR pipeline with hardware acceleration(SIMD, NEON) that can't be currently achieved with javascript, it is basically just waste of time. - To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in particular to be used on mobile devices? There is no hardware acceleration used now, and no plans to use it for next release 3.3. The situation is that the emscripten ported ALVAR is machine generated javascript, so it's pretty much a black box, you put the video frame in and get the transform matrix out. Trying to identify which part of the code could benefit from hardware acceleration is hard. Even harder would be to replace parts of the javascript code with an equivalent GLSL or WebCL parts. Obviously someone have to write the shaders of those parts first. Because of the limited resources, unfortunately there is no change that this will happen at any time soon. -Antti- 2014-02-20 20:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme : > > Hello, > > after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented Reality > GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. > > - There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined > image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the utilized ALVAR > library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript and hopefully also > Xflow? > - To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in > particular to be used on mobile devices? > > I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open > questions. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 2235http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Fri Feb 21 15:42:22 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:42:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: POI Data Provider GE In-Reply-To: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> References: <53064A3A.5070503@dfki.de> Message-ID: <530765CE.1060908@cie.fi> On 20.2.2014 20:32, Stefan Lemme wrote: > > Hello, > > after our workshop last week a few questions about the POI Data > Provider raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. > > * Is there a GE implementation available beside the one packaged at > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/frs/?group_id=7#title_miwi-poidataprovider and > the probably same in the github repository at > https://github.com/Chiru/WeX/tree/master/poi ? > We will deploy one soon to some public server. > > * Is there further specification of the data components available > beside the draft of the open API specification at > http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/POI_Data_Provider_Open_API_Specification_(DRAFT)#Data_Component_Structures**? > Not yet. > > * There is a mismatch between the JSON schema and data provided by > the POI-DP implementation regarding the "name" of a POI, for instance. > We had some phase difference between specification and implementation. http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php?title=POI_Data_Provider_Open_API_Specification_(DRAFT)&oldid=28502 (13.2.2014 14:12) is the version corresponding the release 3.2. > > * How to realize relative POIs? > Not yet specified. Will be in the next release. > > * Where is the incoming data validated to comply with the > specification, e.g. JSON schema? > Validation in server is currently under development. > > * Wouldn't it be better to reference a remote xml3d element directly > by URI instead of string-encode dom elements? > Currently we need to do it that way. Remote URI to group does not work in XML3D. There is a related issue under development in https://github.com/xml3d/xml3d.js/issues/54 . > > * Which ontology is used for the category of a POI? How to handle > POIs referring to multiple categories? And what about tags? (All > with regard to multi-lingual content) > We took directly the value of amenity key in OpenStreetMap for fast start. This will be reconsidered to next release. > > * What entities are referred by UUIDs through source.id and > last_update.responsible? > They are references to source and person-profile descriptions not yet specified. > > * > > I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open > questions. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 -- 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ******************************************************** -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stefan.lemme at dfki.de Fri Feb 21 16:02:12 2014 From: stefan.lemme at dfki.de (Stefan Lemme) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:02:12 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: Augmented Reality GE Message-ID: <9aylfkr44bflhcwas6vw4402.1392993988790@email.android.com> Hi, well, I asked exactly about natural feature tracking of predefined images (3). However, as far as I understand, this will not be delivered as part of the Augmented Reality GE? Is the respective version of ALVAR Tracker publicitly available that is capable of this feature? What about an integration through Google Chrome's Native Client, for instance? I'm really sad about such a limited feature set of the Augmented Reality GE. From the perspective of Xflow, I cannot see any added value over the Marker Tracking SE, which is based on jsARToolkit and already available since September 2013. Kind regards, Stefan Sent from Samsung Mobile
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From: Antti Karhu
Date:2014/02/21 10:08 (GMT+01:00)
To: Stefan Lemme
Cc: Arto Heikkinen ,Ari Okkonen ,"FI-WARE, MiWi"
Subject: Re: Hands-on: Augmented Reality GE
Hi, Good questions, hope this answer will clear things There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript and hopefully also Xflow? Let?s start with some definitions: (1) Marker: A fiducial marker is defined as a square box that is divided into a grid. The outside cells of the grid are always black and the inside cells can be either white or black. (2) Image Marker: An image marker is very similar to the Marker with the difference being that the resolution of the grid is a bit larger and the inside cells can form a shape or logo. (3) Natural Feature Image: A natural feature image is simply an image, it might be computer generated or taken by a camera. The image doesn?t have any borders nor doesn't necessarily have to be square or rectangular. There are multiple versions of ALVAR with different level of features supported. The one that have been ported to javascript is called ALVAR MOBILE. It supports detecting and tracking markers(1) and image markers(2). The image markers must have a clearly recognizable border and the contents must not have too much detail but rather be made up of solid shapes or big block letters. The ideal resolution for image markers is spanning from 8x8 to 32x32. There is already a version that exposes the detecting and tracking image markers through Xflow: https://github.com/Cyberlightning/Cyber-WeX/blob/master/DataflowProcessing/demos/xflowAR/index.php . I haven?t included this to the AR GE yet, because there is serious problems with accuracy and performance with mobile devices. There is also an another version called ALVAR Tracker, that implements a generic 6DOF tracker but can also be adapted to detect and track (3) natural feature images. This version is not ported to javascript nor won?t be ported in near future. The ALVAR Mobile was ported to javascript using emscripten and this was quite an easy process because the ALVAR Mobile doesn?t have any third party dependencies. However this isn?t the case with the ALVAR Tracker. The guys on VTT thought that trying to port it to javascript is much bigger task, and because it has a multi-threaded AR pipeline with hardware acceleration(SIMD, NEON) that can?t be currently achieved with javascript, it is basically just waste of time. To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in particular to be used on mobile devices? There is no hardware acceleration used now, and no plans to use it for next release 3.3. The situation is that the emscripten ported ALVAR is machine generated javascript, so it?s pretty much a black box, you put the video frame in and get the transform matrix out. Trying to identify which part of the code could benefit from hardware acceleration is hard. Even harder would be to replace parts of the javascript code with an equivalent GLSL or WebCL parts. Obviously someone have to write the shaders of those parts first. Because of the limited resources, unfortunately there is no change that this will happen at any time soon. -Antti- 2014-02-20 20:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme : Hello, after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented Reality GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript and hopefully also Xflow? To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in particular to be used on mobile devices? I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open questions. Best regards, Stefan -- ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 66123 Saarbr?cken Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web ******************************************************** Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Stra?e 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ ******************************************************** ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agents and Simulated Reality Campus, Build. 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URL: From antti.karhu at cie.fi Fri Feb 21 17:18:17 2014 From: antti.karhu at cie.fi (Antti Karhu) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:18:17 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Hands-on: Augmented Reality GE In-Reply-To: <9aylfkr44bflhcwas6vw4402.1392993988790@email.android.com> References: <9aylfkr44bflhcwas6vw4402.1392993988790@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hi again, Answers to new questions. However, as far as I understand, this will not be delivered as part of the Augmented Reality GE? Yes you are correct, it won't be delivered as a part of the AR GE. Is the respective version of ALVAR Tracker publicitly available that is capable of this feature? As far as I know it's not. What about an integration through Google Chrome's Native Client, for instance? That sounds a reasonable possibility. That's all I can say, because I have no further knowledge about VTTs future plans regarding ALVAR. I'm really sad about such a limited feature set of the Augmented Reality GE. From the perspective of Xflow, I cannot see any added value over the Marker Tracking SE, which is based on jsARToolkit and already available since September 2013. Me too, unfortunately the ALVAR approach didn't work out that well. -Antti- 2014-02-21 17:02 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme : > Hi, > > well, I asked exactly about natural feature tracking of predefined images > (3). > > However, as far as I understand, this will not be delivered as part of the > Augmented Reality GE? > > Is the respective version of ALVAR Tracker publicitly available that is > capable of this feature? > What about an integration through Google Chrome's Native Client, for > instance? > > I'm really sad about such a limited feature set of the Augmented Reality > GE. From the perspective of Xflow, I cannot see any added value over the > Marker Tracking SE, which is based on jsARToolkit and already available > since September 2013. > > Kind regards, > Stefan > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Antti Karhu > Date:2014/02/21 10:08 (GMT+01:00) > To: Stefan Lemme > Cc: Arto Heikkinen ,Ari Okkonen ,"FI-WARE, MiWi" > Subject: Re: Hands-on: Augmented Reality GE > > Hi, > > Good questions, hope this answer will clear things > > - There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined > image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the utilized ALVAR > library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript and hopefully also > Xflow? > > Let's start with some definitions: > > (1) Marker: A fiducial marker is defined as a square box that is divided > into a grid. The outside cells of the grid are always black and the inside > cells can be either white or black. > > (2) Image Marker: An image marker is very similar to the Marker with the > difference being that the resolution of the grid is a bit larger and the > inside cells can form a shape or logo. > > (3) Natural Feature Image: A natural feature image is simply an image, it > might be computer generated or taken by a camera. The image doesn't have > any borders nor doesn't necessarily have to be square or rectangular. > > There are multiple versions of ALVAR with different level of features > supported. The one that have been ported to javascript is called ALVAR > MOBILE. It supports detecting and tracking markers(1) and image > markers(2). The image markers must have a clearly recognizable border and > the contents must not have too much detail but rather be made up of solid > shapes or big block letters. The ideal resolution for image markers is > spanning from 8x8 to 32x32. > > There is already a version that exposes the detecting and tracking image > markers through Xflow: > https://github.com/Cyberlightning/Cyber-WeX/blob/master/DataflowProcessing/demos/xflowAR/index.php. I haven't included this to the AR GE yet, because there is serious > problems with accuracy and performance with mobile devices. > > There is also an another version called ALVAR Tracker, that implements a > generic 6DOF tracker but can also be adapted to detect and track (3) > natural feature images. This version is not ported to javascript nor won't > be ported in near future. > > The ALVAR Mobile was ported to javascript using emscripten and this was > quite an easy process because the ALVAR Mobile doesn't have any third party > dependencies. However this isn't the case with the ALVAR Tracker. The guys > on VTT thought that trying to port it to javascript is much bigger task, > and because it has a multi-threaded AR pipeline with hardware > acceleration(SIMD, NEON) that can't be currently achieved with javascript, > it is basically just waste of time. > > > - To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in > particular to be used on mobile devices? > > There is no hardware acceleration used now, and no plans to use it for > next release 3.3. The situation is that the emscripten ported ALVAR is > machine generated javascript, so it's pretty much a black box, you put the > video frame in and get the transform matrix out. Trying to identify which > part of the code could benefit from hardware acceleration is hard. Even > harder would be to replace parts of the javascript code with an equivalent > GLSL or WebCL parts. Obviously someone have to write the shaders of those > parts first. Because of the limited resources, unfortunately there is no > change that this will happen at any time soon. > > > -Antti- > > > 2014-02-20 20:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme : > >> >> Hello, >> >> after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented Reality >> GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. >> >> - There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined >> image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the utilized ALVAR >> library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript and hopefully also >> Xflow? >> - To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in >> particular to be used on mobile devices? >> >> I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the open >> questions. >> >> Best regards, >> Stefan >> >> -- >> ******************************************************** >> Stefan Lemme >> >> DFKI GmbH >> Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t >> Campus, Geb. 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Not only for this reason but also for offering a solid platform for Phase-3 and the rest of the world, where AR will be a major component, I suggest that you evaluate all possibilities to still significantly improve the capabilities and performance of the AR aspect for WP13 in the remaining (extended) period of the project. One possible solution could be to use the Native Client functionality of Chrome together with the extended version of ALVAR (or another AR library). Best, Philipp Am 21.02.2014 10:08, schrieb Antti Karhu: > Hi, > > Good questions, hope this answer will clear things > > * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined > image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the > utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript > and hopefully also Xflow? > > Let?s start with some definitions: > > > (1) Marker: A fiducial marker is defined as a square box that is divided > into a grid. The outside cells of the grid are always black and the > inside cells can be either white or black. > > > (2) Image Marker: An image marker is very similar to the Marker with the > difference being that the resolution of the grid is a bit larger and the > inside cells can form a shape or logo. > > > (3) Natural Feature Image: A natural feature image is simply an image, > it might be computer generated or taken by a camera. The image doesn?t > have any borders nor doesn't necessarily have to be square or rectangular. > > > There are multiple versions of ALVAR with different level of features > supported. The one that have been ported to javascript is called ALVAR > MOBILE. It supports detecting and tracking markers(1) and image > markers(2). The image markers must have a clearly recognizable border > and the contents must not have too much detail but rather be made up of > solid shapes or big block letters. The ideal resolution for image > markers is spanning from 8x8 to 32x32. > > > There is already a version that exposes the detecting and tracking image > markers through Xflow: > https://github.com/Cyberlightning/Cyber-WeX/blob/master/DataflowProcessing/demos/xflowAR/index.php. > I haven?t included this to the AR GE yet, because there is serious > problems with accuracy and performance with mobile devices. > > > There is also an another version called ALVARTracker, that implements a > generic 6DOF tracker but can also be adapted to detect and track (3) > natural feature images. This version is not ported to javascript nor > won?t be ported in near future. > > > The ALVAR Mobile was ported to javascript using emscripten and this was > quite an easy process because the ALVAR Mobile doesn?t have any third > party dependencies. However this isn?t the case with the ALVAR Tracker. > The guys on VTT thought that trying to port it to javascript is much > bigger task, and because it has a multi-threaded AR pipeline with > hardware acceleration(SIMD, NEON) that can?t be currently achieved with > javascript, it is basically just waste of time. > > > * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in > particular to be used on mobile devices? > > There is no hardware acceleration used now, and no plans to use it for > next release 3.3. The situation is that the emscripten ported ALVAR is > machine generated javascript, so it?s pretty much a black box, you put > the video frame in and get the transform matrix out. Trying to identify > which part of the code could benefit from hardware acceleration is hard. > Even harder would be to replace parts of the javascript code with an > equivalent GLSL or WebCL parts. Obviously someone have to write the > shaders of those parts first. Because of the limited resources, > unfortunately there is no change that this will happen at any time soon. > > > -Antti- > > > > 2014-02-20 20:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme >: > > > Hello, > > after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented > Reality GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. > > * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using > predefined image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features > of the utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through > JavaScript and hopefully also Xflow? > * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, > in particular to be used on mobile devices? > > I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the > open questions. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.:+49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax:+49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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How I have understood it, the plan was mainly to focus on location-based registration and tracking, AR browser type functionality, which was based on some of the other epics (POI). The vision-based registration and tracking was a side track, a chance to see if the ALVAR can provide some additional functionality over the xflow JSARtoolkit implementation. The result was disappointment. I'm not happy with it and have expressed my disappointment of the outcome to our contact in VTT. Regarding to a possibility to provide natural feature tracking through Chrome Native Client with ALVAR. Well, that depends on VTTs interests, do they want to go that route, and more importantly do they want to do it with us. This also involves contractual issues which are out of my hand . Lastly, how do we proceed with the issues regarding to the functionality of AR GE. Is the public opinion that the functionality is too limited? What are the exact features that should be included? Also, you speak the AR GE as a major component of MIWI, is this really the case? If the other parties agree with you, then we must have some serious discussions at the CIE, about how our resources will be directed in the future. -Antti- 2014-02-23 12:21 GMT+02:00 Philipp Slusallek : > Hi, > > I am quite a bit disappointed by the current state of affairs regarding > the AR functionality in MiWi. > > The goal was definitely to significantly improve the functionality and > performance over what was already available. This seems not to be the case! > In particular, it sounds as if the key contribution has been to recompile > ALVAR with Emscripten, which does not seem like a major effort. > > We need to be careful that this is not seen the same way by the reviewers. > As you probably have seen the in similar cases the reviewers/commission > have rejected significant costs from the original FI-WARE partners already. > They may possibly end up doing do the same here if they see more > deficiencies. > > Not only for this reason but also for offering a solid platform for > Phase-3 and the rest of the world, where AR will be a major component, I > suggest that you evaluate all possibilities to still significantly improve > the capabilities and performance of the AR aspect for WP13 in the remaining > (extended) period of the project. > > One possible solution could be to use the Native Client functionality of > Chrome together with the extended version of ALVAR (or another AR library). > > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 21.02.2014 10:08, schrieb Antti Karhu: > >> Hi, >> >> Good questions, hope this answer will clear things >> >> * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined >> >> image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the >> utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript >> and hopefully also Xflow? >> >> Let's start with some definitions: >> >> >> (1) Marker: A fiducial marker is defined as a square box that is divided >> into a grid. The outside cells of the grid are always black and the >> inside cells can be either white or black. >> >> >> (2) Image Marker: An image marker is very similar to the Marker with the >> difference being that the resolution of the grid is a bit larger and the >> inside cells can form a shape or logo. >> >> >> (3) Natural Feature Image: A natural feature image is simply an image, >> it might be computer generated or taken by a camera. The image doesn't >> have any borders nor doesn't necessarily have to be square or rectangular. >> >> >> There are multiple versions of ALVAR with different level of features >> supported. The one that have been ported to javascript is called ALVAR >> MOBILE. It supports detecting and tracking markers(1) and image >> markers(2). The image markers must have a clearly recognizable border >> and the contents must not have too much detail but rather be made up of >> solid shapes or big block letters. The ideal resolution for image >> markers is spanning from 8x8 to 32x32. >> >> >> There is already a version that exposes the detecting and tracking image >> markers through Xflow: >> https://github.com/Cyberlightning/Cyber-WeX/blob/ >> master/DataflowProcessing/demos/xflowAR/index.php. >> I haven't included this to the AR GE yet, because there is serious >> problems with accuracy and performance with mobile devices. >> >> >> There is also an another version called ALVARTracker, that implements a >> >> generic 6DOF tracker but can also be adapted to detect and track (3) >> natural feature images. This version is not ported to javascript nor >> won't be ported in near future. >> >> >> The ALVAR Mobile was ported to javascript using emscripten and this was >> quite an easy process because the ALVAR Mobile doesn't have any third >> party dependencies. However this isn't the case with the ALVAR Tracker. >> The guys on VTT thought that trying to port it to javascript is much >> bigger task, and because it has a multi-threaded AR pipeline with >> hardware acceleration(SIMD, NEON) that can't be currently achieved with >> javascript, it is basically just waste of time. >> >> >> * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in >> >> particular to be used on mobile devices? >> >> There is no hardware acceleration used now, and no plans to use it for >> next release 3.3. The situation is that the emscripten ported ALVAR is >> machine generated javascript, so it's pretty much a black box, you put >> the video frame in and get the transform matrix out. Trying to identify >> which part of the code could benefit from hardware acceleration is hard. >> Even harder would be to replace parts of the javascript code with an >> equivalent GLSL or WebCL parts. Obviously someone have to write the >> shaders of those parts first. Because of the limited resources, >> unfortunately there is no change that this will happen at any time soon. >> >> >> -Antti- >> >> >> >> 2014-02-20 20:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme > >: >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented >> Reality GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. >> >> * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using >> >> predefined image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features >> of the utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through >> JavaScript and hopefully also Xflow? >> * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, >> >> in particular to be used on mobile devices? >> >> I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the >> open questions. >> >> Best regards, >> Stefan >> >> >> -- >> ******************************************************** >> Stefan Lemme >> >> DFKI GmbH >> Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t >> Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 >> 66123 Saarbr?cken >> >> Tel.:+49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 5391 > 2F%2085775%20%E2%80%93%205391> >> Fax:+49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 2235 > 2F%2085775%20%E2%80%93%202235> >> >> http://www.dfki.de/web >> ******************************************************** >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Stra?e 122 >> D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 >> Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ >> ******************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> ******************************************************** >> Stefan Lemme >> >> DFKI GmbH >> Agents and Simulated Reality >> Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 >> D-66123 Saarbruecken >> Germany >> >> Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 5391 >> Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 - 2235 >> http://www.dfki.de/web >> ******************************************************** >> German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Management Board: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Chairman of the Supervisory Board: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ******************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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We already have use cases for the current functionality with the location + compass orientation POI things ? there the current AR impl(s) already work and we expect will serve fine now, in February and March etc. But certainly would be good to get feature based sooner than later. I think is good to consider the situation and alternatives etc., for example CIE can examine internally if they have other areas of activity from where could also fund AR work or something. On the other hand, was it so that the original budget for AR was higher but it was then cut, or something? I don?t remember, am not affiliated with the AR work itself. At and near the university the CSE (the computer science dept., where the city model project also is) also does machine vision etc. I haven?t been in the talks with the VTT but I suppose there are possibilities too, supposing their use of AR also elsewhere etc. Regarding ARToolkit and Alvar etc. I figure with realXtend we just use whatever works and is nice enough etc., Antti told us about the artoolkit web thing in one of the meets too. So far I?ve tested ?image markers? / feature based tracking (or what the correct term was again) with the MetaIO SDK in their Junaio browser, we made a location based RTS with it in a workshop last june (?Town Craft?). In the game we ended up using just location+compass POI showing + custom 2d gui stuff, but had ideas for using posters in the city as markers etc. too. That runs fine on iOS and Android with the native code. What?s the state of NaCl on mobile btw, works in Android? Thanks Stefan for highlighting this here! ? let?s see what would be good to do. Cheers, ~Toni P.S. in Playsign?s early planning for FI-CONTENT in December I also told our designers to just assume that feature based tracking is there ? was thinking that if not otherwise, it could be delivered as a GE/SE from the game project. But we were then unfortunately too busy in Dec&Jan with the launch of our iOS game that didn?t have time for the proposal. The two that were proposed around the city model from Oulu, by other parties, would probably benefit from it too, though. On 23 Feb 2014, at 14:35, Antti Karhu wrote: > Hi, > > Ok lets start about the expected functionality of the AR GE, what it should be, and where exactly your expectations come from? Neither, in the epic description http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE.Epic.AdvUI.AdvWebUI.AugmentedReality of the AR GE, nor in the original proposal, the vision-based registration or tracking is not mentioned at all. Yeah the epic description is vague and you probably can understand it in different ways. How I have understood it, the plan was mainly to focus on location-based registration and tracking, AR browser type functionality, which was based on some of the other epics (POI). The vision-based registration and tracking was a side track, a chance to see if the ALVAR can provide some additional functionality over the xflow JSARtoolkit implementation. The result was disappointment. I?m not happy with it and have expressed my disappointment of the outcome to our contact in VTT. > > > Regarding to a possibility to provide natural feature tracking through Chrome Native Client with ALVAR. Well, that depends on VTTs interests, do they want to go that route, and more importantly do they want to do it with us. This also involves contractual issues which are out of my hand . > > Lastly, how do we proceed with the issues regarding to the functionality of AR GE. Is the public opinion that the functionality is too limited? What are the exact features that should be included? Also, you speak the AR GE as a major component of MIWI, is this really the case? If the other parties agree with you, then we must have some serious discussions at the CIE, about how our resources will be directed in the future. > > -Antti- > > > 2014-02-23 12:21 GMT+02:00 Philipp Slusallek : > Hi, > > I am quite a bit disappointed by the current state of affairs regarding the AR functionality in MiWi. > > The goal was definitely to significantly improve the functionality and performance over what was already available. This seems not to be the case! In particular, it sounds as if the key contribution has been to recompile ALVAR with Emscripten, which does not seem like a major effort. > > We need to be careful that this is not seen the same way by the reviewers. As you probably have seen the in similar cases the reviewers/commission have rejected significant costs from the original FI-WARE partners already. They may possibly end up doing do the same here if they see more deficiencies. > > Not only for this reason but also for offering a solid platform for Phase-3 and the rest of the world, where AR will be a major component, I suggest that you evaluate all possibilities to still significantly improve the capabilities and performance of the AR aspect for WP13 in the remaining (extended) period of the project. > > One possible solution could be to use the Native Client functionality of Chrome together with the extended version of ALVAR (or another AR library). > > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 21.02.2014 10:08, schrieb Antti Karhu: > Hi, > > Good questions, hope this answer will clear things > > * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using predefined > > image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features of the > utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through JavaScript > and hopefully also Xflow? > > Let?s start with some definitions: > > > (1) Marker: A fiducial marker is defined as a square box that is divided > into a grid. The outside cells of the grid are always black and the > inside cells can be either white or black. > > > (2) Image Marker: An image marker is very similar to the Marker with the > difference being that the resolution of the grid is a bit larger and the > inside cells can form a shape or logo. > > > (3) Natural Feature Image: A natural feature image is simply an image, > it might be computer generated or taken by a camera. The image doesn?t > have any borders nor doesn't necessarily have to be square or rectangular. > > > There are multiple versions of ALVAR with different level of features > supported. The one that have been ported to javascript is called ALVAR > MOBILE. It supports detecting and tracking markers(1) and image > markers(2). The image markers must have a clearly recognizable border > and the contents must not have too much detail but rather be made up of > solid shapes or big block letters. The ideal resolution for image > markers is spanning from 8x8 to 32x32. > > > There is already a version that exposes the detecting and tracking image > markers through Xflow: > https://github.com/Cyberlightning/Cyber-WeX/blob/master/DataflowProcessing/demos/xflowAR/index.php. > I haven?t included this to the AR GE yet, because there is serious > problems with accuracy and performance with mobile devices. > > > There is also an another version called ALVARTracker, that implements a > > generic 6DOF tracker but can also be adapted to detect and track (3) > natural feature images. This version is not ported to javascript nor > won?t be ported in near future. > > > The ALVAR Mobile was ported to javascript using emscripten and this was > quite an easy process because the ALVAR Mobile doesn?t have any third > party dependencies. However this isn?t the case with the ALVAR Tracker. > The guys on VTT thought that trying to port it to javascript is much > bigger task, and because it has a multi-threaded AR pipeline with > hardware acceleration(SIMD, NEON) that can?t be currently achieved with > javascript, it is basically just waste of time. > > > * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, in > > particular to be used on mobile devices? > > There is no hardware acceleration used now, and no plans to use it for > next release 3.3. The situation is that the emscripten ported ALVAR is > machine generated javascript, so it?s pretty much a black box, you put > the video frame in and get the transform matrix out. Trying to identify > which part of the code could benefit from hardware acceleration is hard. > Even harder would be to replace parts of the javascript code with an > equivalent GLSL or WebCL parts. Obviously someone have to write the > shaders of those parts first. Because of the limited resources, > unfortunately there is no change that this will happen at any time soon. > > > -Antti- > > > > 2014-02-20 20:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Lemme >: > > > > Hello, > > after our workshop last week a few questions about the Augmented > Reality GE raised and hopefully you can provide some insights. > > * There is the crucial need for markerless tracking using > > predefined image markers in FIcontent. It is one of the features > of the utilized ALVAR library. When will it be exposed through > JavaScript and hopefully also Xflow? > * To what degree do you take advantage of hardware acceleration, > > in particular to be used on mobile devices? > > I would really appreciate to get some more informations about the > open questions. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.:+49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax:+49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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I prepared a minutes document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYjc5iIUWsUfbfbLN4xuJPM6ZyNkLmEAQ18mGXjyMXc/edit?usp=sharing Best regards Christof Am 21.02.2014 um 07:58 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila : > Yes, short hangout works for me. Just let me know the timing. > > - jarkko > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi Philipp, hi everybody > > We discussed in the weekly meeting, that we should have a short dedicated meeting with all interested partner to coordinate the CeBIT contribution of WP13. 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URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Mon Feb 24 15:34:55 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:34:55 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Coordination meeting for WP13 CeBit participation In-Reply-To: <9f786498b83d400d8d34340bc085d8bb@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <9f786498b83d400d8d34340bc085d8bb@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <0E3D360E-46D7-4D4D-A912-B13EBEF69B48@zhaw.ch> Hi Here is the hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpifg8m0m8tn02m85g3ourag?hl=de Cheers Christof Am 24.02.2014 um 14:17 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > Hi > > Sorry for short notice. The only available time-slot for Philipp is today from 15:30 CET. > > If this is OK for you I will open a hangout and send an invitation by email. > I prepared a minutes document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYjc5iIUWsUfbfbLN4xuJPM6ZyNkLmEAQ18mGXjyMXc/edit?usp=sharing > > Best regards > Christof > > > > Am 21.02.2014 um 07:58 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila : > >> Yes, short hangout works for me. Just let me know the timing. >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Christof Marti wrote: >> Hi Philipp, hi everybody >> >> We discussed in the weekly meeting, that we should have a short dedicated meeting with all interested partner to coordinate the CeBIT contribution of WP13. Do you have any time for a short hangout. >> @Philipp: I heard you are busy today, but maybe Monday morning or later afternoon? >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Each GE-owner will contribute 2 slides describing (1) the functionality and features of the GEi and (2) use-cases/demos using the GE (preferably pictures) Template for the slides can be found here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/1056/FI-WARE+presentation+template+13-08-30.pptx Demos WP13 is sharing a table for demos with the Streaming GEi (WP6). We plan to have several demos showing different functionalities. Please add the description of your demo to the above document. Demo Coordinator: We need somebody attending the CeBIT, which is responsible to organize and coordinate the demos (Tommi is checking with UOULU/CIE and Cyberlighning who could take this role). Action Points: CeBIT Attendees [Wednesday EOB]: Add your name to the WP13 Attendees list (I will check with Juanjo/Nuria about the free tickets) GE owner [March 4th]: Prepare slides about GE and send them to Philipp CeBIT Attendees [Wednesday noon]: Volunteer responsible organizing & coordinating demos Friday Feb 28th: Add short description of Demo available in above document Best regards Christof Am 25.02.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Tommi Hollstr?m : > Oulu teams have at least two demo's: > > Adminotech: > > Meshmoon demo. How to create own 3d space. Existing uses cases depending audience intrests. > Cyber: > > Interactive 3D maps for Smart Cities (more details will be specified later) > CIE: - ? > > Do we need buy own personal tickets to Cebit? > > > > > -- > Tommi Hollstr?m, Adminotech Oy > M?kelininkatu 15 > 90100 Oulu, Finland > +358 40 747 8886 > http://twitter.com/meshmoon1/ > > Create your own 3D space, Meshmoon.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Tue Feb 25 17:53:21 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:53:21 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone tomorrows WP13 meeting to 12:00 CET Message-ID: <2793108C-846D-40E1-AF95-D0503AB04E34@zhaw.ch> Dear GE owners, dear WP13 members As last week, I have to postpone tomorrows weekly meeting to 12:00 CET. Sorry for short notice. If you can not attend please check the minutes after the meeting. Proposal for the new time-slot starting from next week (March 5th) is Wednesday 08:30 - 09:30 CET We discussed this last week and among the attendees Wednesday early morning was the best slot available. Please contact me if this is not possible for you. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Tue Feb 25 17:55:35 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:55:35 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone tomorrows WP13 meeting to 12:00 CET In-Reply-To: <2793108C-846D-40E1-AF95-D0503AB04E34@zhaw.ch> References: <2793108C-846D-40E1-AF95-D0503AB04E34@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Everybody, I will be travelling back from Mobile World Conference tomorrow, so I will not be able to attend the meeting. I will update the requested information offline for you. - jarkko On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > Dear GE owners, dear WP13 members > > As last week, I have to postpone tomorrows weekly meeting to 12:00 CET. > Sorry for short notice. If you can not attend please check the minutes > after the meeting. > > > Proposal for the new time-slot starting from next week (March 5th) is > Wednesday 08:30 - 09:30 CET > We discussed this last week and among the attendees Wednesday early > morning was the best slot available. > Please contact me if this is not possible for you. > > Best regards > Christof > > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you can not attend please check the minutes after the meeting. > > > Proposal for the new time-slot starting from next week (March 5th) is Wednesday 08:30 - 09:30 CET > We discussed this last week and among the attendees Wednesday early morning was the best slot available. > Please contact me if this is not possible for you. > > Best regards > Christof > > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Thanks, - Antti On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:32 PM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: > > Hello, > > > >>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqLSWp0KXaaDdGZ0ekFhREgyMFdoT1owZ1BYdFlnbGc&usp=docslist_api#gid=2 > > > > 2D-UI part fixed. > > > > Best, > > > > - Antti > > Hi, > I've fixed the header level issues and added sequence diagrams according > to the suggestion to Synchronization & VirtualCharacters architecture. > > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/FIWARE.OpenSpecification.MiWi.Synchronization > > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/FIWARE.OpenSpecification.MiWi.VirtualCharacters > > -- > Lasse ??rni > Game Programmer > LudoCraft Ltd. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 26 12:00:25 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:00:25 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone tomorrows WP13 meeting to 12:00 CET In-Reply-To: <2793108C-846D-40E1-AF95-D0503AB04E34@zhaw.ch> References: <2793108C-846D-40E1-AF95-D0503AB04E34@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hi I just arrived from lecturing. Give me 15 min to setup document and hangout. Christof Am 25.02.2014 um 17:53 schrieb Christof Marti : > Dear GE owners, dear WP13 members > > As last week, I have to postpone tomorrows weekly meeting to 12:00 CET. > Sorry for short notice. If you can not attend please check the minutes after the meeting. > > > Proposal for the new time-slot starting from next week (March 5th) is Wednesday 08:30 - 09:30 CET > We discussed this last week and among the attendees Wednesday early morning was the best slot available. > Please contact me if this is not possible for you. > > Best regards > Christof > > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 26 12:26:46 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:26:46 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Postpone tomorrows WP13 meeting to 12:00 CET In-Reply-To: References: <2793108C-846D-40E1-AF95-D0503AB04E34@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <6DEF9A7D-3C65-489D-9174-778BCFB23FC6@zhaw.ch> Hi Here is the agenda/minutes for todays meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit Link for Hangout: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpidu4qhnnd5c57s4q7jb0ik? Cheers Christof Am 26.02.2014 um 12:00 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > Hi > > I just arrived from lecturing. Give me 15 min to setup document and hangout. > > Christof > > Am 25.02.2014 um 17:53 schrieb Christof Marti : > >> Dear GE owners, dear WP13 members >> >> As last week, I have to postpone tomorrows weekly meeting to 12:00 CET. >> Sorry for short notice. If you can not attend please check the minutes after the meeting. >> >> >> Proposal for the new time-slot starting from next week (March 5th) is Wednesday 08:30 - 09:30 CET >> We discussed this last week and among the attendees Wednesday early morning was the best slot available. >> Please contact me if this is not possible for you. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Wed Feb 26 18:50:52 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:50:52 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Cebit preparations In-Reply-To: References: <16838e6ccacd4f73aa505eccc276c795@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello, Are there any suggestions about the logistics? Hotels around Cebit are rather full, so we need to accommodate somewhere hopefully nearby. What would be the best choice of location, and what would be the best transit method? Train, perhaps? - jarkko On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi > > Sorry. I forgot to send this email after yesterdays CeBIT preparation > hangout. > > Let's use the following document for WP13 to prepare the CeBIT event: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYjc5iIUWsUfbfbLN4xuJPM6ZyNkLmEAQ18mGXjyMXc/edit?usp=sharing > > *Presentation* > We decided that Philipp will do the presentation for the WP13 part. > (13:00-13:30). > Each GE-owner will contribute 2 slides describing > (1) the functionality and features of the GEi and > (2) use-cases/demos using the GE (preferably pictures) > Template for the slides can be found here: > > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/1056/FI-WARE+presentation+template+13-08-30.pptx > > *Demos* > WP13 is sharing a table for demos with the Streaming GEi (WP6). > We plan to have several demos showing different functionalities. > Please add the description of your demo to the above document. > Demo Coordinator: We need somebody attending the CeBIT, which is > responsible to organize and coordinate the demos > (Tommi is checking with UOULU/CIE and Cyberlighning who could take this > role). > > > *Action Points:* > > - *CeBIT Attendees [Wednesday EOB]*: Add your name to the WP13 > Attendees list > (I will check with Juanjo/Nuria about the free tickets) > - *GE owner [March 4th]*: Prepare slides about GE and send them to > Philipp > - *CeBIT Attendees [Wednesday noon]*: Volunteer responsible organizing > & coordinating demos > - *Friday Feb 28th*: Add short description of Demo available in above > document > > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 25.02.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Tommi Hollstr?m : > > Oulu teams have at least two demo's: > > Adminotech: > > - Meshmoon demo. How to create own 3d space. Existing uses cases > depending audience intrests. > > Cyber: > > - Interactive 3D maps for Smart Cities (more details will be specified > later) > > CIE: - ? > > Do we need buy own personal tickets to Cebit? > > > > -- > Tommi Hollstr?m, Adminotech Oy > M?kelininkatu 15 > 90100 Oulu, Finland > +358 40 747 8886 > http://twitter.com/meshmoon1/ > > Create your own 3D space, Meshmoon.com > > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Feb 26 18:57:58 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 18:57:58 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Possible FI-LAB packages for WP13 Message-ID: <0514FB50-7FB7-41FB-A907-0A057CB0EC6B@zhaw.ch> Dear WP13 GEi owners We discussed the following on todays WP13 meeting. I send this conclusion to the whole MIWI list, because we have to deliver ASAP to Juanjo (resp. to PO this week) All WP13 GEi owners have a chance to send corrections or a veto until tomorrow Thursday 10:00 CET. Then this will go officially to Juanjo. As a result of the FI-WARE M30 review we have to define a number of packages we will provide and support in R3. A package is an (integrated) combination of GEi, which make sense to deploy in common. Provide means, have it available in FI-LAB (VM image or better blueprints) for R3 (before end of March) and support means to provide support to UC projects and FI-PPP phase 3 users. Idea is to have only a few packages and combine as many GEis possible and reasonable. (Sidenote: Users can always install combinations of individual GEis themselves) As discussed in todays meeting I see the following two packages for WP13: Package 1: WebTundra (3D-UI, Synchronization), GIS & POI Data Provider, 2D-3D-Capture, CloudRendering (except HW acceleration) always including Server- and Client-Side parts. HW acceleration can be redirected to dedicated infrastructure. + all Application oriented GEis (Real/Virtual-Interaction, InterfaceDesigner, AugmentedReality, VirtualCharacters) delivered on a shared webserver Package 2: XML3D (3D-UI), KIARA-MW, POI Data Provider, Integration-Demo-Application Package 2 might be extended with GIS Data Provider, VirtualCharacters & AugmentedReality after March 2014 Best Regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Thu Feb 27 06:43:44 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 06:43:44 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Cebit preparations In-Reply-To: References: <16838e6ccacd4f73aa505eccc276c795@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <530ED090.5090105@dfki.de> Hi, Am 26.02.2014 18:50, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Are there any suggestions about the logistics? Hotels around Cebit are > rather full, so we need to accommodate somewhere hopefully nearby. What > would be the best choice of location, and what would be the best transit > method? Train, perhaps? Accommodation is really difficult at CeBIT. But since its only a single day you can stay elsewhere and come in by train. Good cities should be Braunschweig, Hildesheim, Hamburg, Bremen, G?ttingen, Wolfsburg. It is probably good to check the train connections to the cities in parallel. Make sure that you also get a train ticket with a seat reservation as the trains to Hannover will likely be rather full. You can get the train tickets online at www.bahn.de (also in English). Hope this helps, Philipp > - jarkko > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Christof Marti > wrote: > > Hi > > Sorry. I forgot to send this email after yesterdays CeBIT > preparation hangout. > > Let?s use the following document for WP13 to prepare the CeBIT event: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYjc5iIUWsUfbfbLN4xuJPM6ZyNkLmEAQ18mGXjyMXc/edit?usp=sharing > > *Presentation* > We decided that Philipp will do the presentation for the WP13 part. > (13:00-13:30). > Each GE-owner will contribute 2 slides describing > (1) the functionality and features of the GEi and > (2) use-cases/demos using the GE (preferably pictures) > Template for the slides can be found here: > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/1056/FI-WARE+presentation+template+13-08-30.pptx > > *Demos* > WP13 is sharing a table for demos with the Streaming GEi (WP6). > We plan to have several demos showing different functionalities. > Please add the description of your demo to the above document. > Demo Coordinator: We need somebody attending the CeBIT, which is > responsible to organize and coordinate the demos > (Tommi is checking with UOULU/CIE and Cyberlighning who could take > this role). > > > *Action Points:* > > * *CeBIT Attendees [Wednesday EOB]*: Add your name to the WP13 > Attendees list > (I will check with Juanjo/Nuria about the free tickets) > * *GE owner [March 4th]*: Prepare slides about GE and send them to > Philipp > * *CeBIT Attendees [Wednesday noon]*: Volunteer responsible > organizing & coordinating demos > * *Friday Feb 28th*: Add short description of Demo available in > above document > > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 25.02.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Tommi Hollstr?m >: > >> Oulu teams have at least two demo's: >> >> Adminotech: >> >> * Meshmoon demo. How to create own 3d space. Existing uses cases >> depending audience intrests. >> >> Cyber: >> >> * Interactive 3D maps for Smart Cities (more details will be >> specified later) >> >> CIE: - ? >> >> Do we need buy own personal tickets to Cebit? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tommi Hollstr?m, Adminotech Oy >> M?kelininkatu 15 >> 90100 Oulu, Finland >> +358 40 747 8886 >> http://twitter.com/meshmoon1/ >> >> Create your own 3D space, Meshmoon.com >> > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Hotels around Cebit are >> rather full, so we need to accommodate somewhere hopefully nearby. What >> would be the best choice of location, and what would be the best transit >> method? Train, perhaps? >> > > Accommodation is really difficult at CeBIT. But since its only a single > day you can stay elsewhere and come in by train. Good cities should be > Braunschweig, Hildesheim, Hamburg, Bremen, G?ttingen, Wolfsburg. It is > probably good to check the train connections to the cities in parallel. > > Make sure that you also get a train ticket with a seat reservation as the > trains to Hannover will likely be rather full. You can get the train > tickets online at www.bahn.de (also in English). > > > Hope this helps, > > This was very helpful, thank you Philipp. :) I managed to book myself next to Hamburg railway station, and I will arrive to Hannover by train. Thanks once again, - jarkko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: