From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Mon Mar 3 10:05:41 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:05:41 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] [Fwd: [Fiware] Delivery Awareness - Update] Message-ID: <133550c10225e520ddd6a97f7a49fa82.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Seems the GE Open Specification from October is still haunting us as not delivered - something that we need to do? -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [Fiware] Delivery Awareness - Update From: "MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE" Date: Mon, March 3, 2014 9:24 am To: "fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Additionally, we have 5 deliverables stalled - D10.2.2 delayed 215 days (7 months), D2.5.2, D10.1.3, D13.1.1 delayed 123 days (4 months); and D10.3.3 delayed 93 days (3 months). 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Otherwise we can perhaps discuss also tech & use case / demo topics in the Wednesday meet, I think I?ll organise anyhow so that can participate there. ~Toni On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:05, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote: > FYI all, > > Cyberlightning is moving to new (bigger) premises tomorrow, so we are not able to join. Our new address starting tomorrow will be Teknologiantie 2. See you later then! > > - jarkko > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Toni Alatalo wrote: > Hi, > > welcome again tomorrow for the Oulu bi-weekly, at 13 here at M?kelininkatu. Just a basic status check in the usually agile style: demos of things done, next plans and informing / discussion of possible problems. > > We can at least demo WebTundra client side physics(1) and Lasse just told on IRC that they?ve begun work on the custom components support(2). About others I don?t know of but hopefully we?ll hear latest in the meet then ? please do post agenda items or links to code / demos at will beforehand too. A little info about those two items from our standpoint: > > (1) Physics: The old standalone three.js Car demo is ported to Tundra & WebTundra now, to be used with the city or any other scene. Is a separate project with a minimal test scene. The idea is that because physics + custom physics code for a lot of objects is known to be a bottleneck in Tundra (from avatar apps & lots of users) it can be useful for mass apps on the web to avoid that by using client side physics. Client side logic & control of the ?own entity? (avatar, car, camera, ..) is nice also to avoid network latency with controls. The key is that the client deals with only the own single object, collisions of that with nearby objects, and not every collision in the whole scene (like the server typically does) ? that makes it relatively light for each client as well. The physics is ran in a Web worker so doesn?t block rendering. The code is on GitHub but there?s no demo on the web as we still don?t have Tundra servers up for public access (nor Meshmoon integration which would also solve this), https://github.com/playsign/WebTundraCar . > > This is all still custom code in that test app, to be refactored to a physics module for WebTundra in next steps. Then we could add support for reading rigidbody params from XML3D descriptions too to be able to run physics demos standalone (the only way currently to load a scene to WebTundra from a file, instead of a web socket connection to Tundra, is from a XML3D file ? like we use TXML with the c++ version). Also, with the physics module we could port the old standalone / offline version of Pong to use WebTundra?s physics abstraction instead of Ammo.js (Bullet) directly. > > (2) Custom components: Lasse from LudoCraft said they?ve began work with the previously discussed plan for better custom component support. AFAIK it boils down to JS code becoming able to define new component types: the data definition and a nice way to hook custom handling of the data. The Car from the Physics work seems like a good candidate as a test / demo case for that: WebTundraCar is currently implemented with the DynamicComponent system so that each car entity has a Car component which is handled by the app code to construct the cars from the body + wheels and create the physics etc. They don?t actually even use the Mesh component as the visualisation is a part of the Car component on the client side. So soon we?ll get to see how that works with the new system. > > Cheers, > ~Toni > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Mon Mar 3 11:47:19 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:47:19 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] [Fwd: [Fiware] Delivery Awareness - Update] In-Reply-To: <133550c10225e520ddd6a97f7a49fa82.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> References: <133550c10225e520ddd6a97f7a49fa82.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Message-ID: I share the concern. Christof, awaiting your response! On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:05 AM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: > Seems the GE Open Specification from October is still haunting us as not > delivered - something that we need to do? > > -- > Lasse ??rni > Game Programmer > LudoCraft Ltd. > > > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > Subject: [Fiware] Delivery Awareness - Update > From: "MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE" > Date: Mon, March 3, 2014 9:24 am > To: "fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu" > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Additionally, we have 5 deliverables stalled - D10.2.2 delayed 215 days (7 > months), D2.5.2, D10.1.3, D13.1.1 delayed 123 days (4 months); and D10.3.3 > delayed 93 days (3 months). > I think it is VERY IMPORTANT these documents are finished and delivered > with no further delay. > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What >>> would be the best choice of location, and what would be the best transit >>> method? Train, perhaps? >>> >> >> Accommodation is really difficult at CeBIT. But since its only a single >> day you can stay elsewhere and come in by train. Good cities should be >> Braunschweig, Hildesheim, Hamburg, Bremen, G?ttingen, Wolfsburg. It is >> probably good to check the train connections to the cities in parallel. >> >> Make sure that you also get a train ticket with a seat reservation as the >> trains to Hannover will likely be rather full. You can get the train >> tickets online at www.bahn.de (also in English). >> >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> > This was very helpful, thank you Philipp. :) I managed to book myself next > to Hamburg railway station, and I will arrive to Hannover by train. > > Thanks once again, > > - jarkko > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Philipp Am 04.03.2014 13:33, schrieb Tiina Hynninen: > Hi, > > I have a couple of questions related to practicalities: what time does > the exhibition start on Wednesday - we need to make sure that we'll be > there on time? > And do we get tickets or buy them? > > Best regards, > Tiina Hynninen > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Philipp Slusallek > > wrote: > > Hi, > > Am 26.02.2014 18 :50, schrieb Jarkko > Vatjus-Anttila: > > Are there any suggestions about the logistics? Hotels around > Cebit are > rather full, so we need to accommodate somewhere hopefully > nearby. What > would be the best choice of location, and what would be the > best transit > method? Train, perhaps? > > > Accommodation is really difficult at CeBIT. But since its only a > single day you can stay elsewhere and come in by train. Good > cities should be Braunschweig, Hildesheim, Hamburg, Bremen, > G?ttingen, Wolfsburg. It is probably good to check the train > connections to the cities in parallel. > > Make sure that you also get a train ticket with a seat > reservation as the trains to Hannover will likely be rather > full. You can get the train tickets online at www.bahn.de > (also in English). > > > Hope this helps, > > > This was very helpful, thank you Philipp. :) I managed to book > myself next to Hamburg railway station, and I will arrive to > Hannover by train. > > Thanks once again, > > - jarkko > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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We will get additional free (paper) > *exhibitor* tickets that will get us in earlier. We will arrange a meeting > place at one of the entrances near Hall 9. More information, when it gets > available. The current plan is to meet there at 8:15, I believe. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 04.03.2014 13:33, schrieb Tiina Hynninen: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a couple of questions related to practicalities: what time does >> the exhibition start on Wednesday - we need to make sure that we'll be >> there on time? >> And do we get tickets or buy them? >> >> Best regards, >> Tiina Hynninen >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Philipp Slusallek >> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Am 26.02.2014 18 :50, schrieb Jarkko >> >> Vatjus-Anttila: >> >> Are there any suggestions about the logistics? Hotels around >> Cebit are >> rather full, so we need to accommodate somewhere hopefully >> nearby. What >> would be the best choice of location, and what would be the >> best transit >> method? Train, perhaps? >> >> >> Accommodation is really difficult at CeBIT. But since its only a >> single day you can stay elsewhere and come in by train. Good >> cities should be Braunschweig, Hildesheim, Hamburg, Bremen, >> G?ttingen, Wolfsburg. It is probably good to check the train >> connections to the cities in parallel. >> >> Make sure that you also get a train ticket with a seat >> reservation as the trains to Hannover will likely be rather >> full. You can get the train tickets online at www.bahn.de >> (also in English). >> >> >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> >> This was very helpful, thank you Philipp. :) I managed to book >> myself next to Hamburg railway station, and I will arrive to >> Hannover by train. >> >> Thanks once again, >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards Christof From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Wed Mar 5 09:25:13 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 09:25:13 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Cancel MiWi meeting In-Reply-To: <1ECF3369-E8C9-4950-867D-FDD261FE7E29@zhaw.ch> References: <1ECF3369-E8C9-4950-867D-FDD261FE7E29@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <5316DF69.4040600@dfki.de> Hi, Sorry, I am at a short term meeting in FI-Content and cannot join einther, sorry. Best, Philipp Am 05.03.2014 08:34, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > Hi folks > > Sadly I have to cancel todays meeting. > I?m suffering from health problems already the whole week and this morning I feel really bad. > Thats also one of the reasons, why I am not very responsive at them moment. > > I will try to address the most important topics sometimes today, latest tomorrow. > - CeBit preparation > - Status of deliverables, ? > > Best regards > Christof > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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A minimal example with the canonical Duck is in the repo & on-line: http://playsign.tklapp.com:8000/WebTundra/examples/gltf/example-gltf.html We also have the old-optimised-9-blocks Oulu model as glTF but no demo of that configured to WebTundra on the web yet ? the original test with the non-threejs glTF web viewer from before is at http://playsign.tklapp.com:8000/glTF-webgl-viewer/ The WebTundra integration works now so that if the mesh ref is to a .gltf file, then the loader that was recently added to three.js is used. So the relevant xml3d snippet in that test is: .. the whole doc is https://github.com/realXtend/WebTundra/blob/dev/examples/gltf/xml3d-scene-gltf.html . (the test is standalone, doesn?t need Tundra server, but reads the scene from a xml3d file - that mesh tag there results in creation of a mesh component for the entity defined by that group, so the code that loads the mesh from the ref is the same also when connecting to Tundra) I invented that .gltf extension there myself to make it work, the default .json wouldn?t work with the current loading logic as also three?s mesh and scene files can have .json extensions. Mrdoob has pondered changing those to .3geom and .3scene etc in three?s tracker. I haven?t checked yet whether the Khronos folks have considered some more exact file suffix, but will do. Simultaneously, but just by coincidence, Jonne has been working on improving COLLADA .dae support in native Tundra now. A possible solution to our asset pipeline is to author as collada, then use the .dae files directly on the server for collision geom when necessary, and glTF to the browser clients. The larger size of .dae files perhaps doesn?t matter on the servers. Of course is nice if glTF is good otherwise if we can get support for that to native Tundra as well at some point (can come ~free if assimp adds it). Let?s return to this and other asset pipeline matters later but this just as a quick heads-up info now. Cheers, ~Toni On 10 Dec 2013, at 07:57, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi all, > > Important discussion -- thanks! > > My impression is that Khronos is open for better suggestions. I believe we have some and should bring them forward. This would be a great step for the project as well to be able to point active standardization work in this area as well. > > If people are interested we could maybe start Jan's implementation and the position paper as a starting point for such a proposal. It seems we now also have extensive models to test scenes with (probably we could even use our unit test framework for automating this). > > Having a solid transfer format is the main goal from my POV. Whether Collada ist the best intermediate option is up for debate (and testing!). Specifically, there are often many other data items associated with meshes that need to be transferred, where Collada is likely to loose quite a few of them (portable shader formats come to mind here, for example). > > One thing that would be good to include as well is the POP-Buffer idea from IGD (http://x3dom.org/pop/files/popbuffer2013.pdf). This is pretty much orthogonal and simply needs some sorting in the converter and a little bit of rounding computations in the vertex shader. If we can download the binary data in chunks, this is a great and automatic solution for LOD (based on the same idea as the best generic LOD algorithms from Georgia tech at the time), still my favorite today, despite all the others that were developed). > > Another issues that we could jointly address is the chunk loading of binary data. Here it might make sense to write a short paper (1-2 pages, maybe officially supported by the audio guys and the Dec3D group) highlighting the necessity (again we could use/reference the position paper for details). This could then be sent to our contacts at the browser vendors as well as W3C. > > I think we could really affect the industry as a whole here. > > What do you think? > > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 28.11.2013 11:03, schrieb Kristian Sons: >> Hi Toni, >>> There?s still way to go with the glTF pipeline so for now (probably >>> for a month still) our recommendation for getting scenes simply from >>> e.g. Blender to Three.js is the Three JSON format (used in the master >>> branch of the city rendering repo & live demo), and CTM for an >>> optimized solution (but it requires custom setup to set materials). Am >>> very curious to hear what the DFKI gfx / XML3D folks think of this ? >>> some of you perhaps attended the SIGGRAPH sessions even?. >> >> yes, we were really active in this area. I presented together with >> Fabrice Robinet at the WebGL and COLLADA BOF at Siggraph last year. We >> also had discussions with the transmission format group at the Ninth AR >> Standards Community Meeting this year and at Web3D2013 in San Sebastian. >> Especially the discussions with Neil in San Sebastian were really good. >> From our experiences of the XML3DRepo paper we created a position paper: >> http://www.perey.com/ARStandards/[Klein]3dtf-position-paper_Ninth_AR_Standards_Meeting.pdf >> >> >> As also mentioned in the paper, I see three issues: >> 1. The minimum of number of request is given by the number of meshes. >> For scenes with many meshes, this will be the bottleneck. Additionally, >> this minimum can only be reached if the attribute data is interleaved >> and not indexed. I don't know the status for current exporters, but I >> guess most exporters would just support interleaving for very specific >> signatures >> 2. The registry for compressors is way better than a fixed set of >> compression methods and Khronos has a good practice of extension >> registries. However, I think that 3D data is so inhomogeneous that even >> this is not flexible enough. Instead we propose to use a "Code on >> demand" appraoch, which means that a fallback decoder implementation >> could be downloaded if the rendering system has no built-in (possible HW >> accelerated) decompressor for a data set. Neil liked this idea, I don't >> know if maybe glTF has moved into this direction >> 3. Using the GL buffers as common ground for all mesh formats is a good >> idea. However, finding a suitable abstraction layer for materials and >> animations is way harder and not even solved in a high abstraction >> format such as COLLADA >> >> BTW, it would probably be easy (and interesting) to implement a glTF >> plug-in for XML3D. >> >> Jan (in CC) is a PhD student in our group who started to design and >> implement a transmission format that addresses the requirements we >> collected in the position paper above. It is very generic and allows to >> stream structured binary data and to decode the data in parallel. >> Currently it's not possible to chunks of a request if ArrayBuffers are >> requested (this is only possible for text requests). We identified this >> issue in the W3C CG together with Fraunhofer IGD (and some Audio guys >> who are interested in the same feature). If we had this, it would be >> perfect cause everything could be in one request. >> >> In a next step, we will implemnt some encoder/decoders. We want to show >> that some of the decoding could be achieved in the vertex shader (e.g. >> decoding of quantized vertex attributes) other could be decoded using >> Web Workers/Xflow and/or WebCL. Neil is also very open for good >> technical solutions. >> >> Best regards, >> Kristian >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Fri Mar 7 07:07:30 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 07:07:30 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] CeBIT entry ticket In-Reply-To: <531883DD.5060503@gmail.com> References: <1ECF3369-E8C9-4950-867D-FDD261FE7E29@zhaw.ch> <5316DF69.4040600@dfki.de> <531883DD.5060503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <53196222.20101@dfki.de> Hi, For all: There is a new page with all the CeBIT information now: http://goo.gl/JJLWi9 Please add any questions or info that you may have! For entry to CeBIT please use one of the tickets offered there for our visitors. Make sure that you register that ticket first. Best, Philipp Am 06.03.2014 15:19, schrieb Ari Okkonen: > Hi > > I'll arrive Hannover 10.3. evening. I would like to visit CeBIT already > 11.3. also. 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Best regards, Jonne Nauha Meshmoon developer at Adminotech Ltd. www.meshmoon.com On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi, > > For all: There is a new page with all the CeBIT information now: > http://goo.gl/JJLWi9 > > Please add any questions or info that you may have! > > For entry to CeBIT please use one of the tickets offered there for our > visitors. Make sure that you register that ticket first. > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 06.03.2014 15:19, schrieb Ari Okkonen: > >> Hi >> >> I'll arrive Hannover 10.3. evening. I would like to visit CeBIT already >> 11.3. also. How to get a ticket for entry? >> >> BR >> Ari Okkonen >> > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Sat Mar 8 15:32:55 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:32:55 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] CeBIT entry ticket In-Reply-To: References: <1ECF3369-E8C9-4950-867D-FDD261FE7E29@zhaw.ch> <5316DF69.4040600@dfki.de> <531883DD.5060503@gmail.com> <53196222.20101@dfki.de> Message-ID: <531B2A17.7020303@dfki.de> Hi, Yes, I will do the speaker part, no worry. We should not be too strict with the 10 min rule (unless someone insists of a fixed program) but switch between demos as needed by the visitors. One could always start with 1 minute overview of WP13/MiWi and then see what the person is most interested in. Ideally, we have thing running on the same machine and can quickly switch between demos. Best, Philipp Am 07.03.2014 16:29, schrieb Jonne Nauha: > I understood that we will just demo stuff on the screen with some 10 > minute intervals. Is this "speakers" sections for someone else or do we > need to speak for 10 minutes throughout the day? I thought Philipp will > do the talk for everyone? > > Should really know if we need to do presentation in addition to demoing > and answering questions on the demo table. > > Best regards, > Jonne Nauha > Meshmoon developer at Adminotech Ltd. > www.meshmoon.com > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Philipp Slusallek > > wrote: > > Hi, > > For all: There is a new page with all the CeBIT information now: > http://goo.gl/JJLWi9 > > Please add any questions or info that you may have! > > For entry to CeBIT please use one of the tickets offered there for > our visitors. Make sure that you register that ticket first. > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 06.03.2014 15:19, schrieb Ari Okkonen: > > Hi > > I'll arrive Hannover 10.3. evening. I would like to visit CeBIT > already > 11.3. also. 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Kind regards, Manuel *From:*fiware-ge-owners-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-ge-owners-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *On Behalf Of *MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE *Sent:* lunes, 10 de marzo de 2014 11:39 *To:* fiware-ge-owners at lists.fi-ware.eu *Cc:* fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu *Subject:* [Fiware-ge-owners] Backog content: Updated reviews - available Dear Partners, Find links to updated backlog reviews: Apps: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3541/FIWARE.backlog.apps.review.20140310.xlsx Cloud: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3542/FIWARE.backlog.cloud.review.20140310.xlsx IoT: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3545/FIWARE.backlog.iot.review.20140310.xlsx Data: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3543/FIWARE.backlog.data.review.20140310.xlsx I2ND: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3544/FIWARE.backlog.i2nd.review.20140310.xlsx Security: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3547/FIWARE.backlog.security.review.20140310.xlsx MiWi: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3546/FIWARE.backlog.miwi.review.20140310.xlsx If anything please don?t hesitate to let me know. 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Kind regards, Manuel *From:*fiware-ge-owners-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-ge-owners-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *On Behalf Of *MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE *Sent:* lunes, 10 de marzo de 2014 11:39 *To:* fiware-ge-owners at lists.fi-ware.eu *Cc:* fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu *Subject:* [Fiware-ge-owners] Backog content: Updated reviews - available Dear Partners, Find links to updated backlog reviews: Apps: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3541/FIWARE.backlog.apps.review.20140310.xlsx Cloud: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3542/FIWARE.backlog.cloud.review.20140310.xlsx IoT: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3545/FIWARE.backlog.iot.review.20140310.xlsx Data: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3543/FIWARE.backlog.data.review.20140310.xlsx I2ND: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3544/FIWARE.backlog.i2nd.review.20140310.xlsx Security: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3547/FIWARE.backlog.security.review.20140310.xlsx MiWi: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3546/FIWARE.backlog.miwi.review.20140310.xlsx If anything please don't hesitate to let me know. 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I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting to late. I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to the respecting GE owner) Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > Hi everbody > > Link to agenda/minutes: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# > > Hangout is already open: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de > > Best regards > Christof > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi From toni at playsign.net Wed Mar 12 09:21:57 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:21:57 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2E07F35F-107A-40A7-B4A9-9A3EC38FBDE9@playsign.net> Hi - i'm travelling and apparently could not join in with the hangouts app that did work previously, is just giving connection error with every attempt. Wanted to let you know that was fixing remaining wiki & tracker item naming missmatches on Monday, after Skype chats with Manuel where learned how. Basically renamed wiki pages for features by adding WebTundra GEi name to them: Manuel said that if many impls share feats they better still have own individual feat Pages, doesnt work to share them like we tried with xmld3d.js and WebTundra. After renames of the WT specific ones the roadmap is now probably broken for the xml3d.js links to the WT feats like EntitySystemIntegration: xml3d.js folks should either remove those or create new Pages for the GEI specific implementation. Hopefully it's clear for you now too, L?hetetty iPhonesta > Christof Marti kirjoitti Mar 12, 2014 kello 8:34 AM: > > Hi everbody > > Link to agenda/minutes: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# > > Hangout is already open: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de > > Best regards > Christof > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi From antti.kokko at adminotech.com Wed Mar 12 10:45:27 2014 From: antti.kokko at adminotech.com (Antti Kokko) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:45:27 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Wiki access Message-ID: Hello, I no longer have access to e.g. http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/WP13_Integration. So I cannot continue documenting the 3.3. release. Is there some other place we need to put the documentation or why there is no access anymore? Thanks, - Antti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Wed Mar 12 10:49:48 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:49:48 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Wiki access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65d7c4691ddaa41a417382a62f842c6c.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> > Hello, > > I no longer have access to e.g. > http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/WP13_Integration. > So I cannot continue documenting the 3.3. release. > > Is there some other place we need to put the documentation or why there is > no access anymore? Hi, just to let you know, I have this issue as well. Did a fresh login to the forge (as sometimes it times out your session) but it did not help. -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com Wed Mar 12 10:56:33 2014 From: sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com (Sami) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:56:33 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Wiki access In-Reply-To: <65d7c4691ddaa41a417382a62f842c6c.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> References: <65d7c4691ddaa41a417382a62f842c6c.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Message-ID: <53202F51.8080005@cyberlightning.com> Hi, eu domain has been changed to org. So change "http://forge.fi-ware.eu/" to "http://forge.fi-ware.org/" -Sami On 12.03.2014 11:49, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I no longer have access to e.g. >> http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/WP13_Integration. >> So I cannot continue documenting the 3.3. release. >> >> Is there some other place we need to put the documentation or why there is >> no access anymore? > Hi, > just to let you know, I have this issue as well. Did a fresh login to the > forge (as sometimes it times out your session) but it did not help. > -- Sami Jylkk? Software Designer Cyberlightning Ltd. Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Wed Mar 12 11:01:16 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:01:16 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> Hi, Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with the quite interested visitors. best, Philipp Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > Hi > > Only three people at the meeting. > I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting to late. > > I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to the respecting GE owner) > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > >> Hi everbody >> >> Link to agenda/minutes: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >> >> Hangout is already open: >> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Thu Mar 13 17:10:41 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:10:41 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> Message-ID: Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago: "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 review. Thus, the project officer could not send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final review and such rejection may include some definite rejections." Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting. Now, given that we *have made* the deliverables and actually I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses. Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. *I seriously suggest* that we are going to have a google hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. Thank you, - jarkko On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek < Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with > the quite interested visitors. > > best, > > Philipp > > Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > > Hi >> >> Only three people at the meeting. >> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting >> to late. >> >> I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to >> the respecting GE owner) >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : >> >> Hi everbody >>> >>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_ >>> gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>> >>> Hangout is already open: >>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Mar 14 08:04:27 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 08:04:27 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> Message-ID: <2A66FAD5-BE3D-4EE6-9C11-84C3715D802B@zhaw.ch> Hi Jarkko I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns. Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons. The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find solutions to handle this better. Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. Best regards Christof Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila : > Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. > > The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago: > > "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 review. Thus, the project officer could not send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final review and such rejection may include some definite rejections." > > Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting. > > Now, given that we have made the deliverables and actually I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses. > > Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. > > I seriously suggest that we are going to have a google hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. > > Thank you, > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with the quite interested visitors. > > best, > > Philipp > > Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > > Hi > > Only three people at the meeting. > I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting to late. > > I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to the respecting GE owner) > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : > > Hi everbody > > Link to agenda/minutes: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# > > Hangout is already open: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de > > Best regards > Christof > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Mar 14 08:08:50 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:08:50 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Updating OpenSpecification and OpenSpecification APIs Message-ID: Hi The below followup email of wednesdays meeting was somehow stuck on the outbox of our email system. I was already wondering, why I got no feedback or questions and could not find it in my inbox. Sorry for this. Christof ------ Dear WP13 GE owners A short reminder and instructions regarding the update of the Open Specifications and Open Specification APIs for FI-WARE Release 3. As announced a few weeks back, the OpenSpecification updates for those GE owners extending work until M40 should be ready by this Friday, March 14th. (those not extending are already overdue). I created a Dashboard to track the current status of all the OpenSpec v3 Documents here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=21 It contains direct links to the documents to be updated: * OpenSpec (per GE): update in the same document as before The document is mostly a wrapper page for some subpages (Architecture, Details page,?), but you can update the detail pages with the section-edit (link next to the heading). Especially the detailed pages should not anymore declare the APIs as Draft. * OpenSpec APIs: update the copies of the old documents (without the DRAFT extension) The FI-WARE Overview wiki page for OpenSpec v3 can be found here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/OpenSpecs_v3 If you have not updated your page yet, I guess/hope you have all the documentation ready and only need to transfer it to the wiki-page. Please do so latest until coming Sunday March 16th 18:00. (I have to do a short overall review and create a Word Document of all the wiki pages until Monday, which also takes me some time) Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Fri Mar 14 08:37:15 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:37:15 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: <2A66FAD5-BE3D-4EE6-9C11-84C3715D802B@zhaw.ch> References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> <2A66FAD5-BE3D-4EE6-9C11-84C3715D802B@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one for starters and begin the discussion. Jarkko On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" wrote: > Hi Jarkko > > I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns. > Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad > from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons. > The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides, > OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. > > I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find > solutions to handle this better. > Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET > I would be available for a hangout. > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < > jarkko at cyberlightning.com>: > > Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. > Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. > > The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and > reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the > meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we > are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair > that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up > to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate > so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been > myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the > past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not > visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be > the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else > matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago: > > "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries > of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for > review in the last month 30 review. Thus, the project officer could not > send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to > give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in > risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final > review and such rejection may include some definite rejections." > > Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said > that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable > result of poor reporting. > > Now, given that we *have made* the deliverables and actually I was > yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS > and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above > summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately > with no excuses. > > Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the > inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. > > *I seriously suggest* that we are going to have a google hangout > tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. > > Thank you, > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek < > Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with >> the quite interested visitors. >> >> best, >> >> Philipp >> >> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >> >> Hi >>> >>> Only three people at the meeting. >>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting >>> to late. >>> >>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to >>> the respecting GE owner) >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : >>> >>> Hi everbody >>>> >>>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_ >>>> gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>>> >>>> Hangout is already open: >>>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> >> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Mar 14 11:13:19 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:13:19 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Updating OpenSpecification and OpenSpecification APIs In-Reply-To: <04d19cc2ae134d4caf89f8066b3df4e1@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <04d19cc2ae134d4caf89f8066b3df4e1@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <57E6C0B1-6ED2-4FBB-BB7F-CD79E255B3C0@zhaw.ch> Hi again Some comments coming up, while checking some of the OpenSpec pages. * Please also change the link to the updated Open Specification APIs (by removing " (DRAFT)? at the end of the link name) * OpenSpecs have to be product neutral. So references e.g. to "RealXtend ? should go to the respective GE (not the product), (except maybe in the References sections to external specs). * Also the page "RealXtend Scene and EC model? should be renamed to ? Scene and EC model? and kept product neutral. This model should also be reference in the API section of the responsible GE Specification (Synchronization?) * Please also check the consistency of the heading structure of the API page. Here no template is given, but the headings within the document should be consistent. Also consider to use headings instead of bold text for titles. * Some of the GEs had comments/suggestions to enhance the description in the R3 Architecture review. Please consider these comments for updates to enhance the Open Spec . Finally please mark the status updated (incl. date) in the dashboard for each of the documents, when it is ready for my review and let me know if you have additional documents Thanks. Best regards Christof Am 14.03.2014 um 08:08 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) >: Hi The below followup email of wednesdays meeting was somehow stuck on the outbox of our email system. I was already wondering, why I got no feedback or questions and could not find it in my inbox. Sorry for this. Christof ------ Dear WP13 GE owners A short reminder and instructions regarding the update of the Open Specifications and Open Specification APIs for FI-WARE Release 3. As announced a few weeks back, the OpenSpecification updates for those GE owners extending work until M40 should be ready by this Friday, March 14th. (those not extending are already overdue). I created a Dashboard to track the current status of all the OpenSpec v3 Documents here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=21 It contains direct links to the documents to be updated: * OpenSpec (per GE): update in the same document as before The document is mostly a wrapper page for some subpages (Architecture, Details page,?), but you can update the detail pages with the section-edit (link next to the heading). Especially the detailed pages should not anymore declare the APIs as Draft. * OpenSpec APIs: update the copies of the old documents (without the DRAFT extension) The FI-WARE Overview wiki page for OpenSpec v3 can be found here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/OpenSpecs_v3 If you have not updated your page yet, I guess/hope you have all the documentation ready and only need to transfer it to the wiki-page. Please do so latest until coming Sunday March 16th 18:00. (I have to do a short overall review and create a Word Document of all the wiki pages until Monday, which also takes me some time) Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti _______________________________________________ Fiware-miwi mailing list Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Fri Mar 14 13:17:34 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (toni at playsign.net) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:17:34 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] =?utf-8?q?Updating_OpenSpecification_and_OpenSpecif?= =?utf-8?q?ication_APIs?= In-Reply-To: <57E6C0B1-6ED2-4FBB-BB7F-CD79E255B3C0@zhaw.ch> References: <04d19cc2ae134d4caf89f8066b3df4e1@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch>, <57E6C0B1-6ED2-4FBB-BB7F-CD79E255B3C0@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <20140314123235.4607A18003A@dionysos.netplaza.fi> Hi - I started to fix this but in the end could not figure out how in a sensible way. It is difficult to think of specific things without using their names. The gut of the matter is that in the architecture we use a specific previously defined entity-component model and refer to it. It is a standard proposal which is not necessarily tied to any product -- any product is free to adopt the model. We already do not refer to products, such as Tundra or Meshmoon?s Rocket -- realXtend is not software but just an organization (like W3C but for VWs and million times more modest ofc) In my understanding changing the reference to ?realXtend Scene and EC model? to just ?Scene and EC model? is like changing a reference to ?HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP)? to plain ?transfer protocol (TP)? so that it would not be tied to a product (the web) anymore. Both those edits would loose all information. In the same way XML3D is a specific standard proposal, an xml scheme, not tied to a product (also WebTundra implements a part of it now). I check more if can however edit the refs etc according to the suggestions. Lasse or anyone do feel free too if get a good idea. ~Toni From: mach (mach) Sent: ?Friday?, ?March? ?14?, ?2014 ?12?:?13? ?PM To: FI-WARE, MiWi Hi again Some comments coming up, while checking some of the OpenSpec pages. Please also change the link to the updated Open Specification APIs (by removing " (DRAFT)? at the end of the link name) OpenSpecs have to be product neutral. So references e.g. to "RealXtend ? should go to the respective GE (not the product), (except maybe in the References sections to external specs). Also the page "RealXtend Scene and EC model? should be renamed to ? Scene and EC model? and kept product neutral. This model should also be reference in the API section of the responsible GE Specification (Synchronization?) Please also check the consistency of the heading structure of the API page. Here no template is given, but the headings within the document should be consistent. Also consider to use headings instead of bold text for titles. Some of the GEs had comments/suggestions to enhance the description in the R3 Architecture review. Please consider these comments for updates to enhance the Open Spec . Finally please mark the status updated (incl. date) in the dashboard for each of the documents, when it is ready for my review and let me know if you have additional documents Thanks. Best regards Christof Am 14.03.2014 um 08:08 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : Hi The below followup email of wednesdays meeting was somehow stuck on the outbox of our email system. I was already wondering, why I got no feedback or questions and could not find it in my inbox. Sorry for this. Christof ------ Dear WP13 GE owners A short reminder and instructions regarding the update of the Open Specifications and Open Specification APIs for FI-WARE Release 3. As announced a few weeks back, the OpenSpecification updates for those GE owners extending work until M40 should be ready by this Friday, March 14th. (those not extending are already overdue). I created a Dashboard to track the current status of all the OpenSpec v3 Documents here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=21 It contains direct links to the documents to be updated: OpenSpec (per GE): update in the same document as before The document is mostly a wrapper page for some subpages (Architecture, Details page,?), but you can update the detail pages with the section-edit (link next to the heading). Especially the detailed pages should not anymore declare the APIs as Draft. OpenSpec APIs: update the copies of the old documents (without the DRAFT extension) The FI-WARE Overview wiki page for OpenSpec v3 can be found here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/OpenSpecs_v3 If you have not updated your page yet, I guess/hope you have all the documentation ready and only need to transfer it to the wiki-page. Please do so latest until coming Sunday March 16th 18:00. (I have to do a short overall review and create a Word Document of all the wiki pages until Monday, which also takes me some time) Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti _______________________________________________ Fiware-miwi mailing list Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Fri Mar 14 13:40:30 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:40:30 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Updating OpenSpecification and OpenSpecification APIs In-Reply-To: <20140314123235.4607A18003A@dionysos.netplaza.fi> References: <04d19cc2ae134d4caf89f8066b3df4e1@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch>, <57E6C0B1-6ED2-4FBB-BB7F-CD79E255B3C0@zhaw.ch> <20140314123235.4607A18003A@dionysos.netplaza.fi> Message-ID: <909f4f843d78db1c1b3c35d3d080e563.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> > I check more if can however edit the refs etc according to the > suggestions. Lasse or anyone do feel free too if get a good idea. > > > ~Toni Well, I went ahead and removed "realXtend" from the Synchronization GE docs as suggested. Now the scene model is in places referred to as Entity-Component-Attribute scene model, which is not fully unambiguous, as there are several different kinds of entity/component-based scene models in different game engines etc. -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Fri Mar 14 13:46:57 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:46:57 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> <2A66FAD5-BE3D-4EE6-9C11-84C3715D802B@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe someone else manages do this? On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" wrote: > Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one for > starters and begin the discussion. > > Jarkko > On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" wrote: > >> Hi Jarkko >> >> I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns. >> Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad >> from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons. >> The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides, >> OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. >> >> I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find >> solutions to handle this better. >> Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET >> I would be available for a hangout. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> >> Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < >> jarkko at cyberlightning.com>: >> >> Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. >> Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. >> >> The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and >> reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the >> meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we >> are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair >> that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up >> to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate >> so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been >> myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the >> past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not >> visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be >> the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else >> matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago: >> >> "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries >> of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for >> review in the last month 30 review. Thus, the project officer could not >> send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to >> give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in >> risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final >> review and such rejection may include some definite rejections." >> >> Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said >> that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable >> result of poor reporting. >> >> Now, given that we *have made* the deliverables and actually I was >> yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS >> and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above >> summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately >> with no excuses. >> >> Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the >> inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. >> >> *I seriously suggest* that we are going to have a google hangout >> tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. >> >> Thank you, >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek < >> Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with >>> the quite interested visitors. >>> >>> best, >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >>> >>> Hi >>>> >>>> Only three people at the meeting. >>>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting >>>> to late. >>>> >>>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to >>>> the respecting GE owner) >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> ---- >>>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>>> School of Engineering >>>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>>> Skype: christof-marti >>>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) : >>>> >>>> Hi everbody >>>>> >>>>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_ >>>>> gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>>>> >>>>> Hangout is already open: >>>>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Christof >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>> >>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Mar 14 14:00:00 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:00:00 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: <1bc63770c0bd433fb4a49a9e72a9fbd3@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> <2A66FAD5-BE3D-4EE6-9C11-84C3715D802B@zhaw.ch> <1bc63770c0bd433fb4a49a9e72a9fbd3@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <464DD1FA-5E3E-405F-BF8F-6D73B04A4B16@zhaw.ch> I created a hangout: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=de Christof Am 14.03.2014 um 13:46 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >: For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe someone else manages do this? On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" > wrote: Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one for starters and begin the discussion. Jarkko On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" > wrote: Hi Jarkko I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns. Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons. The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find solutions to handle this better. Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. Best regards Christof Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >: Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago: "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 review. Thus, the project officer could not send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final review and such rejection may include some definite rejections." Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting. Now, given that we have made the deliverables and actually I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses. Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. I seriously suggest that we are going to have a google hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. Thank you, - jarkko On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek > wrote: Hi, Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with the quite interested visitors. best, Philipp Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): Hi Only three people at the meeting. I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting to late. I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to the respecting GE owner) Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) >: Hi everbody Link to agenda/minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# Hangout is already open: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de Best regards Christof _______________________________________________ Fiware-miwi mailing list Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi _______________________________________________ Fiware-miwi mailing list Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Mar 14 16:50:40 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:50:40 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page Message-ID: Dear WP13 GEi owners As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: * Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) * Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. * Links to Features your GEi is implementing. * The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. If you have done this. Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: * In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi * In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. 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The previous release can be found here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+?+Emerging+Technologies.pdf Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do only required updates on the existing chapters. Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last deliverable I took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried to put together a WP13 contribution for this deliverable. It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a proposal is a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I would like to ask Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their part) to review the attached document (in change tracking mode), add missing content and in particular also add missing entries in the ?Reference" section. Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was today (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review roundtrip, this will not be feasible. If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am eye on the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be minimal. Thanks for your contributions. @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of Philipp and the domain experts. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: D.2.6.3 State of the Art Analysis ? Emerging Technologies - WP13.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 415766 bytes Desc: D.2.6.3 State of the Art Analysis ? Emerging Technologies - WP13.docx URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Sat Mar 15 08:13:01 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:13:01 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] D.2.6.3 SotA Analysis - Emerging technologies WP13 contribution (internal review roundtrip) In-Reply-To: <73EA1F59-A252-4548-9890-5D66EA566C55@zhaw.ch> References: <73EA1F59-A252-4548-9890-5D66EA566C55@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello, I read through the paper in my behalf, and the text seems to be pretty much collected from the text that has been formulated already earlier. I my opinion, it gives an overview of the state of the art and as such I would guess it works as a deliverable for this purpose. However, having said that, I may not know all exact requirements what this deliverable is expected to fulfill. I made minor changes here and there, mainly fixing misspellings and word ordering. The modified document is attached here, with track changes enabled. - jarkko On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > Hi Philipp, dear WP13 GE Owners > > Also due in M36 is an updated version (D.2.6.3) of the "State of the art > analysis - emerging technologies" deliverable. The previous release can be > found here: > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+-+Emerging+Technologies.pdf > > Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do only > required updates on the existing chapters. > Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last deliverable I > took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried to put together a WP13 > contribution for this deliverable. > It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a proposal is > a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I would like to ask > Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their part) to review the attached > document (in change tracking mode), add missing content and in particular > also add missing entries in the "Reference" section. > > Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was today > (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review roundtrip, this > will not be feasible. > If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am eye on > the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be minimal. > > Thanks for your contributions. > > @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of Philipp > and the domain experts. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > Dear WP13 GEi owners > > As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your > GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces > in FI-WARE" page. > You can find the page here: > https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE > (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi > integration page) > > Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: > > - Information about your *Baseline Assets*. This is general Infos of > the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a > separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on > the example page below) > - Links to *Epics* your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of > the Epics have to start with "*FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.*" So you may have to > copy the Epics from "*FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.*" If you do so, please also > change the chapter field to."*Advanced Middleware and Web UI*". > - Links to *Features* your GEi is implementing. > - The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as > soon they are published in the public wiki. > > If you have done this.* Please also update the links for your GEi on the > roadmap page*: > > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI > There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: > > - In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title > of your GEi > - In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your > GEi's row > > Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing > page: e.g. like for the Middleware : > https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE > *#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA* > (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) > > > As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline > Assets, Epics, Features, ...) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: > > https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE > > This should be done *ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening]*, so we > can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix > the remaining tracker issues. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Sat Mar 15 09:20:33 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 10:20:33 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh, and one question for Manuel: Now that we have the materializing page formulating, do we need to do something special for the tracker at the same time to resolve all those remaining issues? Let us know if there is something! Thanks for the info - jarkko On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < jarkko at cyberlightning.com> wrote: > Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) managed > to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need to be > polished, but will be done by Monday. > > One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents > (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private > wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this > point? > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > >> Dear WP13 GEi owners >> >> As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup >> your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User >> Interfaces in FI-WARE" page. >> You can find the page here: >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >> (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi >> integration page) >> >> Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: >> >> - Information about your *Baseline Assets*. This is general Infos of >> the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a >> separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on >> the example page below) >> - Links to *Epics* your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of >> the Epics have to start with "*FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.*" So you may have to >> copy the Epics from "*FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.*" If you do so, please also >> change the chapter field to."*Advanced Middleware and Web UI*". >> - Links to *Features* your GEi is implementing. >> - The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as >> soon they are published in the public wiki. >> >> If you have done this.* Please also update the links for your GEi on the >> roadmap page*: >> >> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI >> There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: >> >> - In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title >> of your GEi >> - In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of >> your GEi's row >> >> Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing >> page: e.g. like for the Middleware : >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >> *#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA* >> (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) >> >> >> As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline >> Assets, Epics, Features, ...) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: >> >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE >> >> This should be done *ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening]*, so we >> can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix >> the remaining tracker issues. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Sat Mar 15 09:24:14 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:24:14 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <643FDF3B-DCEE-4951-827E-4426A5FFF496@zhaw.ch> Hi Jarkko Only documents in the public wiki should be linked. So we can not yet link the Guides and UTPs. As soon they are released to the public wiki, we have to add the links. Next goal is to get them through the review as fast as possible. Thanks for your immediate work and fast reaction. Have a nice weekend. Christof Am 15.03.2014 um 09:14 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila : > Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) managed to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need to be polished, but will be done by Monday. > > One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this point? > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > Dear WP13 GEi owners > > As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. > You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE > (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) > > Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: > Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) > Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. > Links to Features your GEi is implementing. > The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. > If you have done this. Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI > There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: > In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi > In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row > Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA > (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) > > > As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: > https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE > > This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Philipp Am 15.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Hello, > > I read through the paper in my behalf, and the text seems to be pretty > much collected from the text that has been formulated already earlier. I > my opinion, it gives an overview of the state of the art and as such I > would guess it works as a deliverable for this purpose. However, having > said that, I may not know all exact requirements what this deliverable > is expected to fulfill. > > I made minor changes here and there, mainly fixing misspellings and word > ordering. The modified document is attached here, with track changes > enabled. > > - jarkko > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Marti Christof (mach) > wrote: > > Hi Philipp, dear WP13 GE Owners > > Also due in M36 is an updated version (D.2.6.3) of the ?State of the > art analysis - emerging technologies? deliverable. The previous > release can be found here: > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+?+Emerging+Technologies.pdf > > > Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do > only required updates on the existing chapters. > Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last > deliverable I took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried > to put together a WP13 contribution for this deliverable. > It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a > proposal is a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I > would like to ask Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their > part) to review the attached document (in change tracking mode), add > missing content and in particular also add missing entries in the > ?Reference" section. > > Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was > today (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review > roundtrip, this will not be feasible. > If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am > eye on the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be > minimal. > > Thanks for your contributions. > > @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of > Philipp and the domain experts. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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I?ve also recently implemented an experimental XML3D.JS view for WebTundra, which is fun enough (and the proof of concept was really simple to do) .. will post about that separately after get these byro things in shape From: mach (mach) Sent: ?Saturday?, ?March? ?15?, ?2014 ?10?:?24? ?AM To: Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila Cc: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE, FI-WARE, MiWi Hi Jarkko Only documents in the public wiki should be linked. So we can not yet link the Guides and UTPs. As soon they are released to the public wiki, we have to add the links. Next goal is to get them through the review as fast as possible. Thanks for your immediate work and fast reaction. Have a nice weekend. Christof Am 15.03.2014 um 09:14 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila : Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) managed to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need to be polished, but will be done by Monday. One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this point? On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: Dear WP13 GEi owners As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. Links to Features your GEi is implementing. The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. If you have done this.Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. 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Best, Philipp Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > I created a hangout: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=de > > Christof > > Am 14.03.2014 um 13:46 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > >: > >> For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe >> someone else manages do this? >> >> On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" >> > wrote: >> >> Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one >> for starters and begin the discussion. >> >> Jarkko >> >> On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" > > wrote: >> >> Hi Jarkko >> >> I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the >> concerns. Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, >> which was handled bad from my side and delayed way to much, by >> various reasons. >> The availability, up to date status and quality of the >> documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. >> >> I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and >> maybe find solutions to handle this better. >> Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting >> from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> >: >> >>> Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in >>> Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. >>> >>> The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the >>> deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to >>> see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so >>> I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite >>> alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair >>> that we have made functional software releases, open >>> specifications are up to date with no known issues to be >>> fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can >>> influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been >>> myself asking several times about the progress of the >>> deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other >>> parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have >>> quite much failed here, and this should be the number one >>> topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else >>> matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few >>> days ago: >>> >>> "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with >>> beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't >>> submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 >>> review. Thus, the project officer could not send any >>> message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed >>> to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we >>> would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their >>> deliverables get rejected in the final review and such >>> rejection may include some definite rejections." >>> >>> Also after this there was the interim payment list, which >>> clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 >>> SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting. >>> >>> Now, given that we _have made_ the deliverables and actually >>> I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end >>> solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find >>> it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of >>> others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses. >>> >>> Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing >>> the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. >>> >>> _I seriously suggest_ that we are going to have a google >>> hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, >>> and chatting with the quite interested visitors. >>> >>> best, >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Only three people at the meeting. >>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did >>> announce the meeting to late. >>> >>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the >>> list or directly to the respecting GE owner) >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) >>> >: >>> >>> Hi everbody >>> >>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>> https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1v3Nbpl___mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ___gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>> >>> >>> Hangout is already open: >>> https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=__de >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz >>> (DFKI) GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>> >>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >>> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 >>> ------------------------------__------------------------------__--------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> VP, Technology >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> >>> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich >>> your presentations! >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >> > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Lasse or anyone do feel free too if get a good idea. >> >> >> ~Toni > > Well, I went ahead and removed "realXtend" from the Synchronization GE > docs as suggested. Now the scene model is in places referred to as > Entity-Component-Attribute scene model, which is not fully unambiguous, as > there are several different kinds of entity/component-based scene models > in different game engines etc. > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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However thanks to applying the model-view-controller pattern the three.js dependency is limited to a view module in WebTundra: the networking and the internal core scene model, the entity-components which hold the data, don?t know anything about it. This was done mostly to allow running headless clients for example in node.js based simulation services. Erno is actually developing such bots now for the car & physics test/demo -- and as discussed this way the WebTundra codebase (without the view part) is an implementation of the Scene API epic too: it enables services to connect to a scene and modify it efficiently. However the MVC arch makes it also very straightforward to use xml3d.js for rendering instead, to get XFlow and Shade.js etc. support, and Philipp recommended in an email earlier that we?d implement that. I gave it a shot recently and am very happy to tell you that a simple proof-of-concept XML3DJSView was indeed quite straightforward to write and works enough now to initialize the view and show a test object in WebTundra. I used DFKI?s FiVES WebClient code as a reference for populating a scene from network data for xml3d.js to run. As also discussed already before the FiVES WebClient and WebTundra architectures are basically identical. It seemed that with some thought we might even share parts of the same code for FiVES WebClient and WebTundra?s XML3DJSView. Now I did it by copy-pasting and modifying appropriately. This brings up the question about FiVES licensing. It is currently GPL which we can not use in realXtend due to absolutely requiring support for also closed source proprietary applications. GPL requires any code that uses the library, in this case apps made on top of the FiVES WebClient framework, to provide the source code and AFAIK unlimited modification & redistribution rights for any user of the app. Even at Playsign where we use open source tech for basically everything and and happily participate in open source tool & platform development this is not possible for the applications: open sourcing our games and especially the graphics for them is out of the question (for one it would make it all too easy and legal to clone the games). I?m sure everyone knows how this is completely normal all around, both in games and other apps companies. I asked about the FiVES license previously at the F2F meet in Oulu and DFKI folks said they?d return to it but I suppose it has just fallen off the table due to other duties. So, is it possible to change the license? Do people find WebTundra with Tundra connectivity & XML3D.JS rendering interesting? What are the FiVES WebClient development plans, should we check if can reuse code in these two quite similar web clients? The little experimental code with the minimal required changes to get xml3d.js to run inside WebTundra are in a branch in Playsign?s fork of the repo. If the license is not changed I?ll never push this work to realXtend?s repo to keep the permissive licensing there absolutely clear. The current code is partly copy-pasted which AFAIK carries the license over. If the license is never changed but we need this functionality we?ll rewrite it somehow so that it is not a copy (some other person writes it without reading the FiVES code or so). Links for the curious tech folks who are not afraid of the GPL virus(*): https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/tree/xml3djs https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/blob/xml3djs/src/view/XML3DJSView.js https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/compare/realXtend:dev...xml3djs I used the WebTundra XML3D-reading OpenCTM asset test, which is a copy of the original XML3D.JS OpenCTM demo (the ambulance) as the test -- so did not test by connecting to a Tundra server yet but populated the scene from a file instead (is faster to dev like that). The code should work for the networked case too though as the data source is almost completely invisible for the view module. Unfortunately I had trouble with xml3d.js openctm loading in my local dev setup (also for the normal xml3d.js ctm demo, which does work on-line) so had to hack the code just to show Suzanne for now. As the comparison against dev shows I just did all sorts of hardcoded mods for this now, there is no way to properly switch between the view implementations etc -- this was just a first stab to verify the idea and see what places would required changes etc. ~Toni (*) previously when we worked with OpenSimulator and the Linden labs Second Life viewer code, which was GPL back then (is largely LGPL now), we were taught to be quite paranoid about GPL. The OpenSim contributor agreement stated that no one who had looked at the SL viewer code in 6 months is allowed to commit code to OpenSim. This was due to advice by some mysterious lawyers (I suspect IBM, they did OpenSim dev at that time). I think it actually made sense: otherwise Linden labs could come and claim that OpenSim is derived work from SL (viewer) and that it should hence be GPLed as well (which again Opensim does not want due to supporting proprietary apps, like realXtend). 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URL: From toni at playsign.net Sun Mar 16 17:14:26 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (toni at playsign.net) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:14:26 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] =?utf-8?q?Updating_OpenSpecification_and_OpenSpecif?= =?utf-8?q?ication_APIs?= In-Reply-To: <5325C1B8.6050804@dfki.de> References: <04d19cc2ae134d4caf89f8066b3df4e1@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch>, <57E6C0B1-6ED2-4FBB-BB7F-CD79E255B3C0@zhaw.ch> <20140314123235.4607A18003A@dionysos.netplaza.fi> <909f4f843d78db1c1b3c35d3d080e563.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com>, <5325C1B8.6050804@dfki.de> Message-ID: <20140316161610.86394180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> That sounds good, thanks! I can?t unfortunately work on it now, please feel free anyone who has a chance. Perhaps Erno has time tomorrow unless someone else has gotten to it? Otherwise I will at some point but don?t know yet when could. From: Philipp Slusallek Sent: ?Sunday?, ?March? ?16?, ?2014 ?5?:?22? ?PM To: Lasse ??rni, toni at playsign.net Cc: FI-WARE, MiWi Hi, I think that the best compromise is to use the "ECA model" as the main term and mention at the beginning that its modeled after that developed in realXtend somewhere at the beginning. Best, Philipp Am 14.03.2014 13:40, schrieb "Lasse ??rni": >> I check more if can however edit the refs etc according to the >> suggestions. Lasse or anyone do feel free too if get a good idea. >> >> >> ~Toni > > Well, I went ahead and removed "realXtend" from the Synchronization GE > docs as suggested. 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URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Sun Mar 16 17:32:46 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 18:32:46 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda In-Reply-To: <5325C0FC.6050709@dfki.de> References: <5ec5740e6da34d65b699dad2d8e60bf7@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <9887B343-3F80-4F60-9A79-F437F4251B60@zhaw.ch> <5320306C.4010307@dfki.de> <2A66FAD5-BE3D-4EE6-9C11-84C3715D802B@zhaw.ch> <1bc63770c0bd433fb4a49a9e72a9fbd3@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <464DD1FA-5E3E-405F-BF8F-6D73B04A4B16@zhaw.ch> <5325C0FC.6050709@dfki.de> Message-ID: Philipp, all, The summary of Friday's discussion was pretty much summarized with Christof's email Friday afternoon. It tells where to do the short term updates in order for us to push the documentation release outwards. One version of that was released to Miquel already, but as have issue with the tracker status and open spec update status in general. So, to pull together the short term topic (i.e. need to be completed by tomorrow) 1) Create materializing page for all GE's. This is mainly collecting about links all around to the one page. 2) Make sure any remaining changes are done to open specs by tomorrow. We have received two rounds of review comments so far from outside, those need to be incorporated accordingly. 3) Make minor (link) updates to road map wiki page 4) Correct all remaining tracker issues, once the materializing page is crystal clear Now, all the links to the above tasks are in Christof's email and/or our wp13 dashboard. To me it sound that the delivery must be made as a whole, hence if someone refuses to update the docs and wiki, we cannot make it. I urge all parties to make the required changes. Now that we settle this by Monday, I at least expect a larger review from Telefonica, hence I expect bigger comments that we've seen so far. Also, once the release proceeds the guys/gals at test bed and they start testing our deliverables, no doubt we will encounter issues there. These anticipated bigger changes need to be in place by the end of April. To squeeze still a little bit: 1) all those (minor) things by the end of monday, and 2) larger things by the end of April. Maybe this summarizes it properly? - jarkko On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Philipp Slusallek < Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, I was traveling Friday afternoon. I very much see the issues Jarkko > has raised. Can someone summarize the discussions? > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > >> I created a hangout: >> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=de >> >> Christof >> >> Am 14.03.2014 um 13:46 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> >: >> >> For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe >>> someone else manages do this? >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one >>> for starters and begin the discussion. >>> >>> Jarkko >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jarkko >>> >>> I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the >>> concerns. Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, >>> which was handled bad from my side and delayed way to much, by >>> various reasons. >>> The availability, up to date status and quality of the >>> documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very >>> mixed. >>> >>> I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and >>> maybe find solutions to handle this better. >>> Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting >>> from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> >: >>> >>> Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in >>>> Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. >>>> >>>> The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the >>>> deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to >>>> see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so >>>> I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite >>>> alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair >>>> that we have made functional software releases, open >>>> specifications are up to date with no known issues to be >>>> fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can >>>> influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been >>>> myself asking several times about the progress of the >>>> deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other >>>> parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have >>>> quite much failed here, and this should be the number one >>>> topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else >>>> matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few >>>> days ago: >>>> >>>> "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with >>>> beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't >>>> submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 >>>> review. Thus, the project officer could not send any >>>> message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed >>>> to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we >>>> would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their >>>> deliverables get rejected in the final review and such >>>> rejection may include some definite rejections." >>>> >>>> Also after this there was the interim payment list, which >>>> clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 >>>> SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting. >>>> >>>> Now, given that we _have made_ the deliverables and actually >>>> >>>> I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end >>>> solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find >>>> it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of >>>> others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses. >>>> >>>> Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing >>>> the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. >>>> >>>> _I seriously suggest_ that we are going to have a google >>>> >>>> hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> - jarkko >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, >>>> and chatting with the quite interested visitors. >>>> >>>> best, >>>> >>>> Philipp >>>> >>>> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Only three people at the meeting. >>>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did >>>> announce the meeting to late. >>>> >>>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the >>>> list or directly to the respecting GE owner) >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> ---- >>>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>>> School of Engineering >>>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> 2063> >>>> >>>> Skype: christof-marti >>>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) >>>> >: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi everbody >>>> >>>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>>> https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1v3Nbpl___ >>>> mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ___gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>>> >>>> >>> mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit#> >>>> >>>> Hangout is already open: >>>> https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__ >>>> 7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=__de >>>> >>>> >>> 7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de> >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> __------------------------------__------------- >>>> >>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz >>>> (DFKI) GmbH >>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>>> >>>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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URL: From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Sun Mar 16 19:08:13 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:08:13 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] xml3d.js view to WebTundra & FiVES license question In-Reply-To: <20140316161033.6C6BA180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> References: <20140316161033.6C6BA180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> Message-ID: <5325E88D.10709@dfki.de> Hi Toni, I think we have no issues going to LGPL if that is all that is needed. for now. Let me know and we will discuss this internally and get back to you. I think it would be great to merge the code bases and get to a common joint code that is much easier to maintain (particularly now in FI-Core). Also there are very interesting options to use this code to base Phase-3 project on, once we can commit them and make them more broadly available. Regarding further develoment, Torsten plan to soon start on a full KIARA implementation for FIVES (currently a lot is hardcoded), so we can have all the advantages of KIARA soon. We are also getting to the point where KIARA will become usable on the C/C++ side (for example, the latest benchmarks show that we can do roundtrip RPCs in less than 200 us on Gigabit Ethernet with it). This would allow the C/C++ Tundra to eventually switch to it as well. A number of other DFKI projects will also be porting to KIARA/FIVES in the upcoming weeks/months, so that we will get a lot more testing and extensions, where needed. It would be great to have you on board here as well. On a related note, we are working on large scene support right now using various techniques (this is needed for a nuber of automotive projects we are working on). We just got the first version of BLAST running which is a new highly efficient transfer format for XML3D (and also other formats). Jonne saw some demos at CeBIT, smoothly rendering a 5.7 Mtris city scene). We plan to publish this soon and submit it to Khronos as an alternative to their current glTF activities. At CeBIT we also showed first results of our new render pipeline implementation. Specifically it allowed to switch on Screen Space Ambient Occlusion (SSAO) as a post processing option. Other related effects should be realtively straight forward to implement. Let us know, if you are interested in adding your own extensions here. Best, Philipp Am 16.03.2014 16:11, schrieb toni at playsign.net: > As discussed often we are using three.js for rendering in WebTundra, > mostly due to compatibility with existing realXtend requirements and > applications for example on meshmoon.com. The requirement for > declarative authoring is delivered by WebTundra?s SceneParser which can > read an XML3D description and populate a reX EC scene from it. However > thanks to applying the model-view-controller pattern the three.js > dependency is limited to a view module in WebTundra: the networking and > the internal core scene model, the entity-components which hold the > data, don?t know anything about it. This was done mostly to allow > running headless clients for example in node.js based simulation > services. Erno is actually developing such bots now for the car & > physics test/demo -- and as discussed this way the WebTundra codebase > (without the view part) is an implementation of the Scene API epic too: > it enables services to connect to a scene and modify it efficiently. > However the MVC arch makes it also very straightforward to use xml3d.js > for rendering instead, to get XFlow and Shade.js etc. support, and > Philipp recommended in an email earlier that we?d implement that. > > I gave it a shot recently and am very happy to tell you that a simple > proof-of-concept XML3DJSView was indeed quite straightforward to write > and works enough now to initialize the view and show a test object in > WebTundra. I used DFKI?s FiVES WebClient code as a reference for > populating a scene from network data for xml3d.js to run. As also > discussed already before the FiVES WebClient and WebTundra architectures > are basically identical. It seemed that with some thought we might even > share parts of the same code for FiVES WebClient and WebTundra?s > XML3DJSView. Now I did it by copy-pasting and modifying appropriately. > > This brings up the question about FiVES licensing. It is currently GPL > which we can not use in realXtend due to absolutely requiring support > for also closed source proprietary applications. GPL requires any code > that uses the library, in this case apps made on top of the FiVES > WebClient framework, to provide the source code and AFAIK unlimited > modification & redistribution rights for any user of the app. Even at > Playsign where we use open source tech for basically everything and and > happily participate in open source tool & platform development this is > not possible for the applications: open sourcing our games and > especially the graphics for them is out of the question (for one it > would make it all too easy and legal to clone the games). I?m sure > everyone knows how this is completely normal all around, both in games > and other apps companies. I asked about the FiVES license previously at > the F2F meet in Oulu and DFKI folks said they?d return to it but I > suppose it has just fallen off the table due to other duties. > > So, is it possible to change the license? Do people find WebTundra with > Tundra connectivity & XML3D.JS rendering interesting? What are the FiVES > WebClient development plans, should we check if can reuse code in these > two quite similar web clients? > > The little experimental code with the minimal required changes to get > xml3d.js to run inside WebTundra are in a branch in Playsign?s fork of > the repo. If the license is not changed I?ll never push this work to > realXtend?s repo to keep the permissive licensing there absolutely > clear. The current code is partly copy-pasted which AFAIK carries the > license over. If the license is never changed but we need this > functionality we?ll rewrite it somehow so that it is not a copy (some > other person writes it without reading the FiVES code or so). > > Links for the curious tech folks who are not afraid of the GPL virus(*): > > * > https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/tree/xml3djs > * > https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/blob/xml3djs/src/view/XML3DJSView.js > * > https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/compare/realXtend:dev...xml3djs > > > I used the WebTundra XML3D-reading OpenCTM asset test, which is a copy > of the original XML3D.JS OpenCTM demo (the ambulance) as the test -- so > did not test by connecting to a Tundra server yet but populated the > scene from a file instead (is faster to dev like that). The code should > work for the networked case too though as the data source is almost > completely invisible for the view module. Unfortunately I had trouble > with xml3d.js openctm loading in my local dev setup (also for the normal > xml3d.js ctm demo, which does work on-line) so had to hack the code just > to show Suzanne for now. As the comparison against dev shows I just did > all sorts of hardcoded mods for this now, there is no way to properly > switch between the view implementations etc -- this was just a first > stab to verify the idea and see what places would required changes etc. > > ~Toni > > (*) previously when we worked with OpenSimulator and the Linden labs > Second Life viewer code, which was GPL back then (is largely LGPL now), > we were taught to be quite paranoid about GPL. The OpenSim contributor > agreement stated that no one who had looked at the SL viewer code in 6 > months is allowed to commit code to OpenSim. This was due to advice by > some mysterious lawyers (I suspect IBM, they did OpenSim dev at that > time). I think it actually made sense: otherwise Linden labs could come > and claim that OpenSim is derived work from SL (viewer) and that it > should hence be GPLed as well (which again Opensim does not want due to > supporting proprietary apps, like realXtend). So the solution within > realXtend organization was to separate viewer and server development to > different teams, in different companies at different locations .. Admino > worked with Opensim and Ludocraft on the SL viewer based first realXtend > viewer prototype. Now with our new codebases all that is luckily gone, > and also for Opensim devs the SLViewer change to LGPL helped and IIRC > they?ve dropped the contributor agreement so same people can work on > server&clients there too. I?ve also encountered unrelated cases where > professional programmers have steered away from even looking at GPL code > for help / reference when implementing something to avoid problems (in a > small completely not legalese database company, not related to 3d or VWs). > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Philipp Am 16.03.2014 17:32, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Philipp, all, > > The summary of Friday's discussion was pretty much summarized with > Christof's email Friday afternoon. It tells where to do the short term > updates in order for us to push the documentation release outwards. One > version of that was released to Miquel already, but as have issue with > the tracker status and open spec update status in general. So, to pull > together the short term topic (i.e. need to be completed by tomorrow) > > 1) Create materializing page for all GE's. This is mainly collecting > about links all around to the one page. > 2) Make sure any remaining changes are done to open specs by tomorrow. > We have received two rounds of review comments so far from outside, > those need to be incorporated accordingly. > 3) Make minor (link) updates to road map wiki page > 4) Correct all remaining tracker issues, once the materializing page is > crystal clear > > Now, all the links to the above tasks are in Christof's email and/or our > wp13 dashboard. > > To me it sound that the delivery must be made as a whole, hence if > someone refuses to update the docs and wiki, we cannot make it. I urge > all parties to make the required changes. > > Now that we settle this by Monday, I at least expect a larger review > from Telefonica, hence I expect bigger comments that we've seen so far. > Also, once the release proceeds the guys/gals at test bed and they start > testing our deliverables, no doubt we will encounter issues there. These > anticipated bigger changes need to be in place by the end of April. > > To squeeze still a little bit: 1) all those (minor) things by the end of > monday, and 2) larger things by the end of April. Maybe this summarizes > it properly? > > - jarkko > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Philipp Slusallek > > wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry, I was traveling Friday afternoon. I very much see the issues > Jarkko has raised. Can someone summarize the discussions? > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > > I created a hangout: > https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=__de > > > Christof > > Am 14.03.2014 um 13:46 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > > >>: > > For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe > someone else manages do this? > > On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" > > >> wrote: > > Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule > that one > for starters and begin the discussion. > > Jarkko > > On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" > >> wrote: > > Hi Jarkko > > I can very well follow your arguments and share > some of the > concerns. Especially with the first release of the > OpenSpec, > which was handled bad from my side and delayed way > to much, by > various reasons. > The availability, up to date status and quality of the > documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is > still very mixed. > > I am very willing to discuss the issues and make > sure and > maybe find solutions to handle this better. > Morning is packed already with with meetings, but > starting > from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. > > Best regards > Christof > Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > > >>: > > Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and > most of us in > Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the > situation earlier. > > The most important topic for the meeting agenda > was the > deliverables and reviews of our project. > However, I fail to > see enough information in the meeting minutes > about this, so > I take this was not discussed. I think we are > in quite > alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a > little unfair > that we have made functional software releases, > open > specifications are up to date with no known > issues to be > fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far > as we can > influence it. Given all this, and given that I > have been > myself asking several times about the progress > of the > deliverables for the past months, I still see > that how other > parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I > feel we have > quite much failed here, and this should be the > number one > topic for the project to fix. In the end, > nothing else > matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim > payments a few > days ago: > > "Please note that we cannot follow a similar > approach with > beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact > that they didn't > submit any deliverable for review in the last > month 30 > review. Thus, the project officer could not > send any > message confirming acceptance of deliverables. > If we proceed > to give a second payment to these other > beneficiaries we > would be incurring in risks since it may happen > that their > deliverables get rejected in the final review > and such > rejection may include some definite rejections." > > Also after this there was the interim payment > list, which > clearly said that there will be no payments for > the WP13 > SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor > reporting. > > Now, given that we _have made_ the deliverables > and actually > > I was yesterday demonstrating a full working > end-to-end > solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data > collection, I find > it very alarming how the above summarizes us in > the view of > others. This needs to be fixed immediately with > no excuses. > > Christof, I want to start clarifying what > exactly is causing > the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue > to fix them. > > _I seriously suggest_ that we are going to have > a google > > hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time > for that. > > Thank you, > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek > > >> wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving > demos, talks, > and chatting with the quite interested > visitors. > > best, > > Philipp > > Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof > (mach): > > Hi > > Only three people at the meeting. > I guess most folks are at CeBIT today > and/or I did > announce the meeting to late. > > I will send out emails for the open > points (to the > list or directly to the respecting GE > owner) > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information > Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - > ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > > > > Skype: christof-marti > Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti > Christof (mach) > > >>: > > > Hi everbody > > Link to agenda/minutes: > https://docs.google.com/____document/d/1v3Nbpl_____mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_____gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# > > > > > > > Hangout is already open: > https://plus.google.com/____hangouts/_/____7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=____de > > > > > > > Best regards > Christof > > ___________________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/____listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/____listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------____----------------------------__--__------------- > > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche > Intelligenz > (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 > Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang > Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB > 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: > 19/673/0060/3 > > ------------------------------____----------------------------__--__--------------- > > > > _________________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > > > > Go to www.cybersli.de > and enrich > your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------__------------------------------__--------------- > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Help..? - jarkko On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi Jarkko > > Only documents in the public wiki should be linked. So we can not yet link > the Guides and UTPs. > As soon they are released to the public wiki, we have to add the links. > Next goal is to get them through the review as fast as possible. > > Thanks for your immediate work and fast reaction. > Have a nice weekend. > > Christof > > Am 15.03.2014 um 09:14 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < > jarkko at cyberlightning.com>: > > Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) > managed to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need > to be polished, but will be done by Monday. > > One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents > (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private > wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this > point? > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: > >> Dear WP13 GEi owners >> >> As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup >> your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User >> Interfaces in FI-WARE" page. >> You can find the page here: >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >> (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi >> integration page) >> >> Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: >> >> - Information about your *Baseline Assets*. This is general Infos of >> the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a >> separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on >> the example page below) >> - Links to *Epics* your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of >> the Epics have to start with "*FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.*" So you may have to >> copy the Epics from "*FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.*" If you do so, please also >> change the chapter field to."*Advanced Middleware and Web UI*". >> - Links to *Features* your GEi is implementing. >> - The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as >> soon they are published in the public wiki. >> >> If you have done this.* Please also update the links for your GEi on the >> roadmap page*: >> >> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI >> There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: >> >> - In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title >> of your GEi >> - In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of >> your GEi's row >> >> Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing >> page: e.g. like for the Middleware : >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >> *#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA* >> (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) >> >> >> As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline >> Assets, Epics, Features, ...) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: >> >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE >> >> This should be done *ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening]*, so we >> can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix >> the remaining tracker issues. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antti.karhu at cie.fi Mon Mar 17 08:48:59 2014 From: antti.karhu at cie.fi (Antti Karhu) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:48:59 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page In-Reply-To: References: <643FDF3B-DCEE-4951-827E-4426A5FFF496@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hi, You probably just have an old link, try to change the .eu to .org in the url. 2014-03-17 9:39 GMT+02:00 Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila : > All, > > Tried to start doing the final modifications to the roadmap page, but > noticed that we do not have editing rights there. Help..? > > - jarkko > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Christof Marti wrote: > >> Hi Jarkko >> >> Only documents in the public wiki should be linked. So we can not yet >> link the Guides and UTPs. >> As soon they are released to the public wiki, we have to add the links. >> Next goal is to get them through the review as fast as possible. >> >> Thanks for your immediate work and fast reaction. >> Have a nice weekend. >> >> Christof >> >> Am 15.03.2014 um 09:14 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < >> jarkko at cyberlightning.com>: >> >> Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) >> managed to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need >> to be polished, but will be done by Monday. >> >> One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents >> (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private >> wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this >> point? >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: >> >>> Dear WP13 GEi owners >>> >>> As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup >>> your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User >>> Interfaces in FI-WARE" page. >>> You can find the page here: >>> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >>> (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi >>> integration page) >>> >>> Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: >>> >>> - Information about your *Baseline Assets*. This is general Infos of >>> the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a >>> separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on >>> the example page below) >>> - Links to *Epics* your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of >>> the Epics have to start with "*FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.*" So you may have >>> to copy the Epics from "*FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.*" If you do so, please >>> also change the chapter field to."*Advanced Middleware and Web UI*". >>> - Links to *Features* your GEi is implementing. >>> - The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as >>> soon they are published in the public wiki. >>> >>> If you have done this.* Please also update the links for your GEi on >>> the roadmap page*: >>> >>> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI >>> There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: >>> >>> - In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the >>> title of your GEi >>> - In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of >>> your GEi's row >>> >>> Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing >>> page: e.g. like for the Middleware : >>> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >>> *#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA* >>> (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) >>> >>> >>> As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline >>> Assets, Epics, Features, ...) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: >>> >>> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE >>> >>> This should be done *ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening]*, so >>> we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and >>> fix the remaining tracker issues. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Mon Mar 17 09:35:32 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:35:32 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page In-Reply-To: References: <643FDF3B-DCEE-4951-827E-4426A5FFF496@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Oh, that is right :) I just clicked the link in Christof's email, and did not notice this. Thanks! -jarkko On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Antti Karhu wrote: > Hi, > > You probably just have an old link, try to change the .eu to .org in the > url. > > > 2014-03-17 9:39 GMT+02:00 Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >: > > All, >> >> Tried to start doing the final modifications to the roadmap page, but >> noticed that we do not have editing rights there. Help..? >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Christof Marti wrote: >> >>> Hi Jarkko >>> >>> Only documents in the public wiki should be linked. So we can not yet >>> link the Guides and UTPs. >>> As soon they are released to the public wiki, we have to add the links. >>> Next goal is to get them through the review as fast as possible. >>> >>> Thanks for your immediate work and fast reaction. >>> Have a nice weekend. >>> >>> Christof >>> >>> Am 15.03.2014 um 09:14 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < >>> jarkko at cyberlightning.com>: >>> >>> Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) >>> managed to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need >>> to be polished, but will be done by Monday. >>> >>> One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents >>> (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private >>> wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this >>> point? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) wrote: >>> >>>> Dear WP13 GEi owners >>>> >>>> As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup >>>> your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User >>>> Interfaces in FI-WARE" page. >>>> You can find the page here: >>>> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >>>> (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi >>>> integration page) >>>> >>>> Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following >>>> information: >>>> >>>> - Information about your *Baseline Assets*. This is general Infos >>>> of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a >>>> separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on >>>> the example page below) >>>> - Links to *Epics* your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of >>>> the Epics have to start with "*FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.*" So you may have >>>> to copy the Epics from "*FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.*" If you do so, please >>>> also change the chapter field to."*Advanced Middleware and Web UI*". >>>> - Links to *Features* your GEi is implementing. >>>> - The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as >>>> soon they are published in the public wiki. >>>> >>>> If you have done this.* Please also update the links for your GEi on >>>> the roadmap page*: >>>> >>>> https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI >>>> There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: >>>> >>>> - In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the >>>> title of your GEi >>>> - In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of >>>> your GEi's row >>>> >>>> Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the >>>> Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : >>>> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE >>>> *#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA* >>>> (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) >>>> >>>> >>>> As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline >>>> Assets, Epics, Features, ...) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: >>>> >>>> https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE >>>> >>>> This should be done *ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening]*, so >>>> we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and >>>> fix the remaining tracker issues. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> ---- >>>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>>> School of Engineering >>>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>>> Skype: christof-marti >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> VP, Technology >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mev at tid.es Mon Mar 17 09:55:56 2014 From: mev at tid.es (MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:55:56 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65CDBE2E7E5A964BB8BC5F4328FDE90BB31B66FF@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> Hi Jarkko, No, nothing else. I configure the materializing url in the tool and the reports will inform about the matching. Kind regards, Manuel From: jvatjusanttila at gmail.com [mailto:jvatjusanttila at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila Sent: s?bado, 15 de marzo de 2014 9:21 To: Marti Christof (mach) Cc: FI-WARE, MiWi; MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Subject: Re: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page Oh, and one question for Manuel: Now that we have the materializing page formulating, do we need to do something special for the tracker at the same time to resolve all those remaining issues? Let us know if there is something! Thanks for the info - jarkko On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > wrote: Thanks for the instructions Christof. I think we (Cyber at least) managed to do pretty much all of those almost, some small things still need to be polished, but will be done by Monday. One clarification: I take we do not add yet the links to the documents (user guide, install guide, unittest plan) yet, since they are in private wiki. I left those blank, but should we still put something there at this point? On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Marti Christof (mach) > wrote: Dear WP13 GEi owners As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page. You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: * Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) * Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi." So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI." If you do so, please also change the chapter field to."Advanced Middleware and Web UI". * Links to Features your GEi is implementing. * The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. If you have done this. Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: * In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi * In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi's row Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ...) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. 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I did a minor edit (games engines -> game engines) which is attached. - Lasse > Hi, > > I did go through the text and fixed quite a few missing references and > marked some others that are still missing (please can some of the people > involved in those GEs fix them). > > In general, there is a lack of references to previous work in quite a > few of the GE descriptions. Please follow the model we have done in the > middleware section and add some more references to previous work and > then position your work in FI-WARE in relation to that. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 15.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> Hello, >> >> I read through the paper in my behalf, and the text seems to be pretty >> much collected from the text that has been formulated already earlier. I >> my opinion, it gives an overview of the state of the art and as such I >> would guess it works as a deliverable for this purpose. However, having >> said that, I may not know all exact requirements what this deliverable >> is expected to fulfill. >> >> I made minor changes here and there, mainly fixing misspellings and word >> ordering. The modified document is attached here, with track changes >> enabled. >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Marti Christof (mach) > > wrote: >> >> Hi Philipp, dear WP13 GE Owners >> >> Also due in M36 is an updated version (D.2.6.3) of the ?State of the >> art analysis - emerging technologies? deliverable. The previous >> release can be found here: >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+?+Emerging+Technologies.pdf >> >> >> Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do >> only required updates on the existing chapters. >> Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last >> deliverable I took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried >> to put together a WP13 contribution for this deliverable. >> It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a >> proposal is a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I >> would like to ask Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their >> part) to review the attached document (in change tracking mode), add >> missing content and in particular also add missing entries in the >> ?Reference" section. >> >> Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was >> today (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review >> roundtrip, this will not be feasible. >> If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am >> eye on the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be >> minimal. >> >> Thanks for your contributions. >> >> @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of >> Philipp and the domain experts. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your >> presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Name: D.2.6.3 State of the Art Analysis - Emerging Technologies - WP13-1-phs-l?.docx Type: application/binary Size: 433067 bytes Desc: not available URL: From torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de Mon Mar 17 10:44:02 2014 From: torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de (Torsten Spieldenner) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:44:02 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] xml3d.js view to WebTundra & FiVES license question In-Reply-To: <5325E88D.10709@dfki.de> References: <20140316161033.6C6BA180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> <5325E88D.10709@dfki.de> Message-ID: <5326C3E2.4010600@dfki.de> Hi Toni, sorry for not having replied earlier. I was spending Sunday with recovering from CeBIT, and am now about to catch up with the FI-Ware emails that arrived during the last days. I'm happy to hear that you could made use of the FiVES code and that it worked to turn it to a WebTundra view. :) This development is definitely interesting. With just a bit more of work on both client and server side (by introducing a slim KIARA layer in realXtend, for example), I can even see a use case where Synchronisation- and 3D-UI-Implementations are fully exchangeable, i.e. our FiVES client can connect to realXtend, and WebTundra GEi can connect to FiVES without any modifications. Concerning licensing, I also think that LGPL should be no problem. If this is a suitable choice for you, we're going to discuss this with Sergiy and release the client code respectively. I am also starting to think about separating the client code from the FiVES repo and put it in a repo of its own (with possibly a different, less restrictive license). We have to think about this anyway, as further plans about FiVES are involving more the client side rather than the server side. And for client development, a repository on its own means that one would not have to check out the whole server code as well when being interested only in the client frameworks. Our plans concerning the Web client are currently to get rid of the few remaining hard coded hacks (e.g. fixed set of components to be initialised with new entities on client side, fixed set of plugins the client expects from the server to run, and some more minor things), and provide a Web Client skeleton without any plugin specific code (i.e. only communication and XML3D scene management) to build upon, in addition to the current client that implements more or less most of the features the server offers. As Philipp already mentioned, I am moreover going to improve C# KIARA implementation. Background of this is also that in addition to XML3D / JavaScript WebClient, we would like to have basic client implementations for C# and, with the improvements introduced in C++ KIARA, also in C++, to derive distinct client implementations from. Best, Torsten Am 3/16/2014 7:08 PM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: > Hi Toni, > > I think we have no issues going to LGPL if that is all that is needed. > for now. Let me know and we will discuss this internally and get back > to you. > > I think it would be great to merge the code bases and get to a common > joint code that is much easier to maintain (particularly now in > FI-Core). Also there are very interesting options to use this code to > base Phase-3 project on, once we can commit them and make them more > broadly available. > > Regarding further develoment, Torsten plan to soon start on a full > KIARA implementation for FIVES (currently a lot is hardcoded), so we > can have all the advantages of KIARA soon. > > We are also getting to the point where KIARA will become usable on the > C/C++ side (for example, the latest benchmarks show that we can do > roundtrip RPCs in less than 200 us on Gigabit Ethernet with it). This > would allow the C/C++ Tundra to eventually switch to it as well. > > A number of other DFKI projects will also be porting to KIARA/FIVES in > the upcoming weeks/months, so that we will get a lot more testing and > extensions, where needed. It would be great to have you on board here > as well. > > On a related note, we are working on large scene support right now > using various techniques (this is needed for a nuber of automotive > projects we are working on). We just got the first version of BLAST > running which is a new highly efficient transfer format for XML3D (and > also other formats). Jonne saw some demos at CeBIT, smoothly rendering > a 5.7 Mtris city scene). We plan to publish this soon and submit it to > Khronos as an alternative to their current glTF activities. > > At CeBIT we also showed first results of our new render pipeline > implementation. Specifically it allowed to switch on Screen Space > Ambient Occlusion (SSAO) as a post processing option. Other related > effects should be realtively straight forward to implement. Let us > know, if you are interested in adding your own extensions here. > > > Best, > > Philipp > Am 16.03.2014 16:11, schrieb toni at playsign.net: >> As discussed often we are using three.js for rendering in WebTundra, >> mostly due to compatibility with existing realXtend requirements and >> applications for example on meshmoon.com. The requirement for >> declarative authoring is delivered by WebTundra's SceneParser which can >> read an XML3D description and populate a reX EC scene from it. However >> thanks to applying the model-view-controller pattern the three.js >> dependency is limited to a view module in WebTundra: the networking and >> the internal core scene model, the entity-components which hold the >> data, don't know anything about it. This was done mostly to allow >> running headless clients for example in node.js based simulation >> services. Erno is actually developing such bots now for the car & >> physics test/demo -- and as discussed this way the WebTundra codebase >> (without the view part) is an implementation of the Scene API epic too: >> it enables services to connect to a scene and modify it efficiently. >> However the MVC arch makes it also very straightforward to use xml3d.js >> for rendering instead, to get XFlow and Shade.js etc. support, and >> Philipp recommended in an email earlier that we'd implement that. >> >> I gave it a shot recently and am very happy to tell you that a simple >> proof-of-concept XML3DJSView was indeed quite straightforward to write >> and works enough now to initialize the view and show a test object in >> WebTundra. I used DFKI's FiVES WebClient code as a reference for >> populating a scene from network data for xml3d.js to run. As also >> discussed already before the FiVES WebClient and WebTundra architectures >> are basically identical. It seemed that with some thought we might even >> share parts of the same code for FiVES WebClient and WebTundra's >> XML3DJSView. Now I did it by copy-pasting and modifying appropriately. >> >> This brings up the question about FiVES licensing. It is currently GPL >> which we can not use in realXtend due to absolutely requiring support >> for also closed source proprietary applications. GPL requires any code >> that uses the library, in this case apps made on top of the FiVES >> WebClient framework, to provide the source code and AFAIK unlimited >> modification & redistribution rights for any user of the app. Even at >> Playsign where we use open source tech for basically everything and and >> happily participate in open source tool & platform development this is >> not possible for the applications: open sourcing our games and >> especially the graphics for them is out of the question (for one it >> would make it all too easy and legal to clone the games). I'm sure >> everyone knows how this is completely normal all around, both in games >> and other apps companies. I asked about the FiVES license previously at >> the F2F meet in Oulu and DFKI folks said they'd return to it but I >> suppose it has just fallen off the table due to other duties. >> >> So, is it possible to change the license? Do people find WebTundra with >> Tundra connectivity & XML3D.JS rendering interesting? What are the FiVES >> WebClient development plans, should we check if can reuse code in these >> two quite similar web clients? >> >> The little experimental code with the minimal required changes to get >> xml3d.js to run inside WebTundra are in a branch in Playsign's fork of >> the repo. If the license is not changed I'll never push this work to >> realXtend's repo to keep the permissive licensing there absolutely >> clear. The current code is partly copy-pasted which AFAIK carries the >> license over. If the license is never changed but we need this >> functionality we'll rewrite it somehow so that it is not a copy (some >> other person writes it without reading the FiVES code or so). >> >> Links for the curious tech folks who are not afraid of the GPL virus(*): >> >> * >> https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/tree/xml3djs >> * >> https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/blob/xml3djs/src/view/XML3DJSView.js >> * >> https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/compare/realXtend:dev...xml3djs >> >> >> I used the WebTundra XML3D-reading OpenCTM asset test, which is a copy >> of the original XML3D.JS OpenCTM demo (the ambulance) as the test -- so >> did not test by connecting to a Tundra server yet but populated the >> scene from a file instead (is faster to dev like that). The code should >> work for the networked case too though as the data source is almost >> completely invisible for the view module. Unfortunately I had trouble >> with xml3d.js openctm loading in my local dev setup (also for the normal >> xml3d.js ctm demo, which does work on-line) so had to hack the code just >> to show Suzanne for now. As the comparison against dev shows I just did >> all sorts of hardcoded mods for this now, there is no way to properly >> switch between the view implementations etc -- this was just a first >> stab to verify the idea and see what places would required changes etc. >> >> ~Toni >> >> (*) previously when we worked with OpenSimulator and the Linden labs >> Second Life viewer code, which was GPL back then (is largely LGPL now), >> we were taught to be quite paranoid about GPL. The OpenSim contributor >> agreement stated that no one who had looked at the SL viewer code in 6 >> months is allowed to commit code to OpenSim. This was due to advice by >> some mysterious lawyers (I suspect IBM, they did OpenSim dev at that >> time). I think it actually made sense: otherwise Linden labs could come >> and claim that OpenSim is derived work from SL (viewer) and that it >> should hence be GPLed as well (which again Opensim does not want due to >> supporting proprietary apps, like realXtend). So the solution within >> realXtend organization was to separate viewer and server development to >> different teams, in different companies at different locations .. Admino >> worked with Opensim and Ludocraft on the SL viewer based first realXtend >> viewer prototype. Now with our new codebases all that is luckily gone, >> and also for Opensim devs the SLViewer change to LGPL helped and IIRC >> they've dropped the contributor agreement so same people can work on >> server&clients there too. I've also encountered unrelated cases where >> professional programmers have steered away from even looking at GPL code >> for help / reference when implementing something to avoid problems (in a >> small completely not legalese database company, not related to 3d or >> VWs). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erno at playsign.net Mon Mar 17 11:57:03 2014 From: erno at playsign.net (Erno Kuusela) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:57:03 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Updating OpenSpecification and OpenSpecification APIs In-Reply-To: <20140316161610.86394180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> References: <04d19cc2ae134d4caf89f8066b3df4e1@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <57E6C0B1-6ED2-4FBB-BB7F-CD79E255B3C0@zhaw.ch> <20140314123235.4607A18003A@dionysos.netplaza.fi> <909f4f843d78db1c1b3c35d3d080e563.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> <5325C1B8.6050804@dfki.de> <20140316161610.86394180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> Message-ID: <20140317105703.GB8733@ee.oulu.fi> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 04:14:26PM +0000, toni at playsign.net wrote: > That sounds good, thanks! I can???t unfortunately work on it now, > please feel free anyone who has a chance. Perhaps Erno has time > tomorrow unless someone else has gotten to it? Otherwise I will at > some point but don???t know yet when could. Ok, I made chaged the realXtend EC model references to -> "the EC model" in the OpenSpecification at https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/FIWARE.OpenSpecification.MiWi.3D-UI and removed a mention of Tundra. I left in the link to https://github.com/realXtend/tundra/wiki/Scene-and-EC-Model (with just "the Entity-Component model" as the link text. I also put "Updated" in the relevant cockpit status field. Erno From mach at zhaw.ch Mon Mar 17 17:14:11 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:14:11 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] D.2.6.3 SotA Analysis - Emerging technologies WP13 contribution (internal review roundtrip) In-Reply-To: <651885cad7d242269b82641bda628eb6@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <73EA1F59-A252-4548-9890-5D66EA566C55@zhaw.ch> <651885cad7d242269b82641bda628eb6@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <785BCA63-A4ED-4E3D-8CFE-A2A7CF3A573B@zhaw.ch> Hi Philipp Can I delegate the finalization of the D.2.6.3 WP13 SoTA contribution to you? I am very busy going through OpenSpecs v3 and create the D.13.1.3 Deliverable and also checking all the Release 3 comments (Guides, UTP) and prepare feedback for Miguel, to get the release-review process going again. Important: In todays WPL/WPA call it was pointed out, that we also have to provide a management summary (~ 1 page), containing only the newest developments. (For the other chapters this are the changes since last release of the deliverable) (For us this could be a compilation from the last part of all the GEs sota) Best regards Christof Am 16.03.2014 um 10:48 schrieb Philipp Slusallek : > Hi, > > I did go through the text and fixed quite a few missing references and > marked some others that are still missing (please can some of the people > involved in those GEs fix them). > > In general, there is a lack of references to previous work in quite a > few of the GE descriptions. Please follow the model we have done in the > middleware section and add some more references to previous work and > then position your work in FI-WARE in relation to that. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > Am 15.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> Hello, >> >> I read through the paper in my behalf, and the text seems to be pretty >> much collected from the text that has been formulated already earlier. I >> my opinion, it gives an overview of the state of the art and as such I >> would guess it works as a deliverable for this purpose. However, having >> said that, I may not know all exact requirements what this deliverable >> is expected to fulfill. >> >> I made minor changes here and there, mainly fixing misspellings and word >> ordering. The modified document is attached here, with track changes >> enabled. >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Marti Christof (mach) > > wrote: >> >> Hi Philipp, dear WP13 GE Owners >> >> Also due in M36 is an updated version (D.2.6.3) of the ?State of the >> art analysis - emerging technologies? deliverable. The previous >> release can be found here: >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+?+Emerging+Technologies.pdf >> >> >> Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do >> only required updates on the existing chapters. >> Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last >> deliverable I took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried >> to put together a WP13 contribution for this deliverable. >> It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a >> proposal is a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I >> would like to ask Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their >> part) to review the attached document (in change tracking mode), add >> missing content and in particular also add missing entries in the >> ?Reference" section. >> >> Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was >> today (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review >> roundtrip, this will not be feasible. >> If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am >> eye on the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be >> minimal. >> >> Thanks for your contributions. >> >> @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of >> Philipp and the domain experts. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your >> presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From toni at playsign.net Tue Mar 18 11:57:50 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (toni at playsign.net) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] =?utf-8?q?xml3d=2Ejs_view_to_WebTundra_=26_FiVES_li?= =?utf-8?q?cense_question?= In-Reply-To: <5326C3E2.4010600@dfki.de> References: <20140316161033.6C6BA180037@dionysos.netplaza.fi> <5325E88D.10709@dfki.de>,<5326C3E2.4010600@dfki.de> Message-ID: <20140318113839.1BB0118003A@dionysos.netplaza.fi> Yes I think LGPL is fine. I think it might be even simpler with a BSD-style (i.e. ?do whatever?) license that Tundra, WebTundra (with Apache license), three.js and signals.js (with MIT) use, but really at least when limited to the xml3d.js view support in WebTundra, LGPL should be completely ok. We have happily used LGPL libs on the native side too, as Ogre used that earlier(*) and Qt uses it now (when Nokia bought it they changed it from dual-licensed GPL/commercial to LGPL which was great as it enabled anyone to use it freely and a lot of open source projects like IPython adopted it then). About separate vs. combined repositories for server & client, I?ve been going a bit back&forth but again and I think finally settled on finding separate repositories for server & client good. At least when they are written for different platforms (e.g. native & web in case of Tundra & WebTundra) and hence don?t share code. They are really separate software projects then. One big reason is that using feature and other branches works sensibly then: for example a branch to refactor something in the client internals is then a branch with just the client code, doesn?t carry over the server code in vain. I actually don?t know if this is a real issue but have somehow felt that it?s clearer this way. An obvious downside is that when changing something in the protocol or in core component definitions it?s not straightforward to keep the versions in sync when the changes to client & server sides are in separate repos. I suppose this is the reason why you?ve found it good for FiVES to work in a single repo .. and as the whole project is quite small still it has probably been good. For Tundra WebSocket things, Lasse first also considered putting the JS client side also to the repo of the C++ server side .. in a client/ directory of the WebSocket server side module. I figured then a separate repo would be good for the js+browser based project and still find it the right call, based on how we?ve managed the branching and tagging etc. of the client then. Also because WebRocket is a separate client impl against the same server code I find this certainly the right setup in realXtend now. If with KIARA we get a setup where the messages and component data structure definitions are shared by both server & client code then I think the situation changes. An option then would be an elaborate setup with multiple repos and git submodules: for example an own repo for the message / component definitions, touched when the protocol changes, and then the server & client implementations would have that protocol repo as a submodule. Git submodules seem great in theory for dependencies as we can control which exact version should be used where, getting the dep is nicely automated etc. In practice however I?m personally not at all comfortable with them yet. IPython is using them and had bugs in the beginning, IIRC due to bugs in the then new submodule functionality in git. I think they are doing ok now though. Blender switched to Git recently and also started using submodules and it seems problematic, someone said due to misuse of the feature. We are testing use of submodules in some of the WebTundra app repos, to get the WebTunda lib dependency, so are gaining more experience here. Thanks for the info about the plans -- seems all sensible and good to me! BTW one thing I?m curious about with the C# server side is possibility to add web client support to OpenSimulator. It is what the Intel guys at Opensim Community Conference found interesting when I presented our web client plans back in September. All Opensim devs have always liked the reX ECA model and it might work ok to add support for such protocol for web clients there. Opensim remains somewhat technically problematic and marginal but also very interesting with the kind of large user base, innovate configurations with the Hypergrid and a nice demanding experienced VW user crowd used to creating both content and functionality by scripting themselves. Cheers, ~Toni From: torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de Sent: ?Monday?, ?March? ?17?, ?2014 ?11?:?44? ?AM To: FI-WARE, MiWi Hi Toni, sorry for not having replied earlier. I was spending Sunday with recovering from CeBIT, and am now about to catch up with the FI-Ware emails that arrived during the last days. I'm happy to hear that you could made use of the FiVES code and that it worked to turn it to a WebTundra view. :) This development is definitely interesting. With just a bit more of work on both client and server side (by introducing a slim KIARA layer in realXtend, for example), I can even see a use case where Synchronisation- and 3D-UI-Implementations are fully exchangeable, i.e. our FiVES client can connect to realXtend, and WebTundra GEi can connect to FiVES without any modifications. Concerning licensing, I also think that LGPL should be no problem. If this is a suitable choice for you, we're going to discuss this with Sergiy and release the client code respectively. I am also starting to think about separating the client code from the FiVES repo and put it in a repo of its own (with possibly a different, less restrictive license). We have to think about this anyway, as further plans about FiVES are involving more the client side rather than the server side. And for client development, a repository on its own means that one would not have to check out the whole server code as well when being interested only in the client frameworks. Our plans concerning the Web client are currently to get rid of the few remaining hard coded hacks (e.g. fixed set of components to be initialised with new entities on client side, fixed set of plugins the client expects from the server to run, and some more minor things), and provide a Web Client skeleton without any plugin specific code (i.e. only communication and XML3D scene management) to build upon, in addition to the current client that implements more or less most of the features the server offers. As Philipp already mentioned, I am moreover going to improve C# KIARA implementation. Background of this is also that in addition to XML3D / JavaScript WebClient, we would like to have basic client implementations for C# and, with the improvements introduced in C++ KIARA, also in C++, to derive distinct client implementations from. Best, Torsten Am 3/16/2014 7:08 PM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: Hi Toni, I think we have no issues going to LGPL if that is all that is needed. for now. Let me know and we will discuss this internally and get back to you. I think it would be great to merge the code bases and get to a common joint code that is much easier to maintain (particularly now in FI-Core). Also there are very interesting options to use this code to base Phase-3 project on, once we can commit them and make them more broadly available. Regarding further develoment, Torsten plan to soon start on a full KIARA implementation for FIVES (currently a lot is hardcoded), so we can have all the advantages of KIARA soon. We are also getting to the point where KIARA will become usable on the C/C++ side (for example, the latest benchmarks show that we can do roundtrip RPCs in less than 200 us on Gigabit Ethernet with it). This would allow the C/C++ Tundra to eventually switch to it as well. A number of other DFKI projects will also be porting to KIARA/FIVES in the upcoming weeks/months, so that we will get a lot more testing and extensions, where needed. It would be great to have you on board here as well. On a related note, we are working on large scene support right now using various techniques (this is needed for a nuber of automotive projects we are working on). We just got the first version of BLAST running which is a new highly efficient transfer format for XML3D (and also other formats). Jonne saw some demos at CeBIT, smoothly rendering a 5.7 Mtris city scene). We plan to publish this soon and submit it to Khronos as an alternative to their current glTF activities. At CeBIT we also showed first results of our new render pipeline implementation. Specifically it allowed to switch on Screen Space Ambient Occlusion (SSAO) as a post processing option. Other related effects should be realtively straight forward to implement. Let us know, if you are interested in adding your own extensions here. Best, Philipp Am 16.03.2014 16:11, schrieb toni at playsign.net: As discussed often we are using three.js for rendering in WebTundra, mostly due to compatibility with existing realXtend requirements and applications for example on meshmoon.com. The requirement for declarative authoring is delivered by WebTundra?s SceneParser which can read an XML3D description and populate a reX EC scene from it. However thanks to applying the model-view-controller pattern the three.js dependency is limited to a view module in WebTundra: the networking and the internal core scene model, the entity-components which hold the data, don?t know anything about it. This was done mostly to allow running headless clients for example in node.js based simulation services. Erno is actually developing such bots now for the car & physics test/demo -- and as discussed this way the WebTundra codebase (without the view part) is an implementation of the Scene API epic too: it enables services to connect to a scene and modify it efficiently. However the MVC arch makes it also very straightforward to use xml3d.js for rendering instead, to get XFlow and Shade.js etc. support, and Philipp recommended in an email earlier that we?d implement that. I gave it a shot recently and am very happy to tell you that a simple proof-of-concept XML3DJSView was indeed quite straightforward to write and works enough now to initialize the view and show a test object in WebTundra. I used DFKI?s FiVES WebClient code as a reference for populating a scene from network data for xml3d.js to run. As also discussed already before the FiVES WebClient and WebTundra architectures are basically identical. It seemed that with some thought we might even share parts of the same code for FiVES WebClient and WebTundra?s XML3DJSView. Now I did it by copy-pasting and modifying appropriately. This brings up the question about FiVES licensing. It is currently GPL which we can not use in realXtend due to absolutely requiring support for also closed source proprietary applications. GPL requires any code that uses the library, in this case apps made on top of the FiVES WebClient framework, to provide the source code and AFAIK unlimited modification & redistribution rights for any user of the app. Even at Playsign where we use open source tech for basically everything and and happily participate in open source tool & platform development this is not possible for the applications: open sourcing our games and especially the graphics for them is out of the question (for one it would make it all too easy and legal to clone the games). I?m sure everyone knows how this is completely normal all around, both in games and other apps companies. I asked about the FiVES license previously at the F2F meet in Oulu and DFKI folks said they?d return to it but I suppose it has just fallen off the table due to other duties. So, is it possible to change the license? Do people find WebTundra with Tundra connectivity & XML3D.JS rendering interesting? What are the FiVES WebClient development plans, should we check if can reuse code in these two quite similar web clients? The little experimental code with the minimal required changes to get xml3d.js to run inside WebTundra are in a branch in Playsign?s fork of the repo. If the license is not changed I?ll never push this work to realXtend?s repo to keep the permissive licensing there absolutely clear. The current code is partly copy-pasted which AFAIK carries the license over. If the license is never changed but we need this functionality we?ll rewrite it somehow so that it is not a copy (some other person writes it without reading the FiVES code or so). Links for the curious tech folks who are not afraid of the GPL virus(*): * https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/tree/xml3djs * https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/blob/xml3djs/src/view/XML3DJSView.js * https://github.com/playsign/WebTundra/compare/realXtend:dev...xml3djs I used the WebTundra XML3D-reading OpenCTM asset test, which is a copy of the original XML3D.JS OpenCTM demo (the ambulance) as the test -- so did not test by connecting to a Tundra server yet but populated the scene from a file instead (is faster to dev like that). The code should work for the networked case too though as the data source is almost completely invisible for the view module. Unfortunately I had trouble with xml3d.js openctm loading in my local dev setup (also for the normal xml3d.js ctm demo, which does work on-line) so had to hack the code just to show Suzanne for now. As the comparison against dev shows I just did all sorts of hardcoded mods for this now, there is no way to properly switch between the view implementations etc -- this was just a first stab to verify the idea and see what places would required changes etc. ~Toni (*) previously when we worked with OpenSimulator and the Linden labs Second Life viewer code, which was GPL back then (is largely LGPL now), we were taught to be quite paranoid about GPL. The OpenSim contributor agreement stated that no one who had looked at the SL viewer code in 6 months is allowed to commit code to OpenSim. This was due to advice by some mysterious lawyers (I suspect IBM, they did OpenSim dev at that time). I think it actually made sense: otherwise Linden labs could come and claim that OpenSim is derived work from SL (viewer) and that it should hence be GPLed as well (which again Opensim does not want due to supporting proprietary apps, like realXtend). So the solution within realXtend organization was to separate viewer and server development to different teams, in different companies at different locations .. Admino worked with Opensim and Ludocraft on the SL viewer based first realXtend viewer prototype. Now with our new codebases all that is luckily gone, and also for Opensim devs the SLViewer change to LGPL helped and IIRC they?ve dropped the contributor agreement so same people can work on server&clients there too. 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Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Wed Mar 19 08:31:58 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:31:58 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Agenda and minutes of todays meeting In-Reply-To: <7F7F450C-150B-4B02-89CF-D13761411167@zhaw.ch> References: <7F7F450C-150B-4B02-89CF-D13761411167@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <532947EE.9020002@dfki.de> Hi, Sorry, I am at in Athens today. Unfortunately, my Hotel's Internet failed tonight and I have not been able to get a fast connection yet in order to join (I am on an expensive mobile connection now, certainly not to be used for Telcos :-). Sorry, Philipp Am 19.03.2014 08:28, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > Hi > > I prepared Agenda and Minutes of todays meeting: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JlsLMBRpf-LiByNVlMBvwlsVFarcwjRJ_TdZJVsPLuo/edit?usp=sharing > > Hangout session: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjj145vkjskeff1941hah78?hl=de > > See you at 08:30. > > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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I understood while ago that we just update the wiki pages we already have there for the previous release so I have already been continuing documentation related to 3.3 release in those. Thanks, - Antti On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Philipp Slusallek < Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, I am at in Athens today. Unfortunately, my Hotel's Internet failed > tonight and I have not been able to get a fast connection yet in order to > join (I am on an expensive mobile connection now, certainly not to be used > for Telcos :-). > > Sorry, > > Philipp > > > Am 19.03.2014 08:28, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > > Hi >> >> I prepared Agenda and Minutes of todays meeting: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JlsLMBRpf-LiByNVlMBvwlsVFarcwjRJ_ >> TdZJVsPLuo/edit?usp=sharing >> >> Hangout session: >> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjj145vkjskeff1941hah78?hl=de >> >> See you at 08:30. >> >> Christof >> ---- >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> School of Engineering >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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But this you already know. All the links the instructions for R3.3 documentation are in Miquel's previous email. Check there. - jarkko On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Antti Kokko wrote: > Hi, > > Regarding to Minutes doc section 5. > > Do we write all installation/admin guide, programmers guide and test plan > separately for release 3.3? I understood while ago that we just update the > wiki pages we already have there for the previous release so I have already > been continuing documentation related to 3.3 release in those. > > Thanks, > > - Antti > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Philipp Slusallek < > Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Sorry, I am at in Athens today. Unfortunately, my Hotel's Internet failed >> tonight and I have not been able to get a fast connection yet in order to >> join (I am on an expensive mobile connection now, certainly not to be used >> for Telcos :-). >> >> Sorry, >> >> Philipp >> >> >> Am 19.03.2014 08:28, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >> >> Hi >>> >>> I prepared Agenda and Minutes of todays meeting: >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JlsLMBRpf-LiByNVlMBvwlsVFarcwjRJ_ >>> TdZJVsPLuo/edit?usp=sharing >>> >>> Hangout session: >>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjj145vkjskeff1941hah78?hl=de >>> >>> See you at 08:30. >>> >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> >> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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This way your working copy is different than > the version in review, and hopefully funny conflicts are avoided. > > R3.3 document deadline is then 11th Apr, so the final changes need to be > done before that. But this you already know. > > All the links the instructions for R3.3 documentation are in Miquel's > previous email. Check there. > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Antti Kokko wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Regarding to Minutes doc section 5. >> >> Do we write all installation/admin guide, programmers guide and test plan >> separately for release 3.3? I understood while ago that we just update the >> wiki pages we already have there for the previous release so I have already >> been continuing documentation related to 3.3 release in those. >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Antti >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Philipp Slusallek < >> Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Sorry, I am at in Athens today. Unfortunately, my Hotel's Internet >>> failed tonight and I have not been able to get a fast connection yet in >>> order to join (I am on an expensive mobile connection now, certainly not to >>> be used for Telcos :-). >>> >>> Sorry, >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> >>> Am 19.03.2014 08:28, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >>> >>> Hi >>>> >>>> I prepared Agenda and Minutes of todays meeting: >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JlsLMBRpf-LiByNVlMBvwlsVFarcwjRJ_ >>>> TdZJVsPLuo/edit?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> Hangout session: >>>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjj145vkjskeff1941hah78?hl=de >>>> >>>> See you at 08:30. >>>> >>>> Christof >>>> ---- >>>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>>> School of Engineering >>>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>>> Skype: christof-marti >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>> >>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >>> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> --------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Mar 19 13:32:08 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Christof Marti) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:32:08 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Agenda and minutes of todays meeting In-Reply-To: <96fe11fcf4c34d79bb942b0c803fe483@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <7F7F450C-150B-4B02-89CF-D13761411167@zhaw.ch> <532947EE.9020002@dfki.de> <96fe11fcf4c34d79bb942b0c803fe483@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hi Antti I guess the important differentiation is: R3.2 version is delivered with the R3.2 Softwarepackage to the public wiki (ASAP, hopefully still this month) Updates (fixes, review feedback) you edit here, have to work with the Software of R3.2 R3.3 Guides are delivered with the R3.3 Softwarepackage to the public wiki (End of April) Updates not compatible with R3.2 should go to the new page Best regards Christof Am 19.03.2014 um 13:14 schrieb Antti Kokko : > Yes, thank you! > > - Antti > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote: > Logistically, if you edit one wiki page at the same time when the reviews are ongoing, each of the 30 review persons will see a different version of your document depending on the time of the review. Hence, fixing the review comments in this scenario might be an interesting task for you. > > Hence, it has been suggested to leave the R3.2 doc as-is, and deliver it to the review. If you continue editin,, make a copy of that page for R3.3 and continue editing there. This way your working copy is different than the version in review, and hopefully funny conflicts are avoided. > > R3.3 document deadline is then 11th Apr, so the final changes need to be done before that. But this you already know. > > All the links the instructions for R3.3 documentation are in Miquel's previous email. Check there. > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Antti Kokko wrote: > Hi, > > Regarding to Minutes doc section 5. > > Do we write all installation/admin guide, programmers guide and test plan separately for release 3.3? I understood while ago that we just update the wiki pages we already have there for the previous release so I have already been continuing documentation related to 3.3 release in those. > > Thanks, > > - Antti > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, I am at in Athens today. Unfortunately, my Hotel's Internet failed tonight and I have not been able to get a fast connection yet in order to join (I am on an expensive mobile connection now, certainly not to be used for Telcos :-). > > Sorry, > > Philipp > > > Am 19.03.2014 08:28, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > > Hi > > I prepared Agenda and Minutes of todays meeting: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JlsLMBRpf-LiByNVlMBvwlsVFarcwjRJ_TdZJVsPLuo/edit?usp=sharing > > Hangout session: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjj145vkjskeff1941hah78?hl=de > > See you at 08:30. > > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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URL: From cvetan at adminotech.com Wed Mar 19 14:13:47 2014 From: cvetan at adminotech.com (Cvetan Stefanovski) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:13:47 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] D.2.6.3 SotA Analysis - Emerging technologies WP13 contribution (internal review roundtrip) In-Reply-To: <785BCA63-A4ED-4E3D-8CFE-A2A7CF3A573B@zhaw.ch> References: <73EA1F59-A252-4548-9890-5D66EA566C55@zhaw.ch> <651885cad7d242269b82641bda628eb6@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <785BCA63-A4ED-4E3D-8CFE-A2A7CF3A573B@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Hello, Here's Adminotech part of the internal review for SotA On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > Hi Philipp > > Can I delegate the finalization of the D.2.6.3 WP13 SoTA contribution to > you? > > I am very busy going through OpenSpecs v3 and create the D.13.1.3 > Deliverable > and also checking all the Release 3 comments (Guides, UTP) and prepare > feedback > for Miguel, to get the release-review process going again. > > Important: In todays WPL/WPA call it was pointed out, that we also have to > provide a management summary (~ 1 page), containing only the newest > developments. > (For the other chapters this are the changes since last release of the > deliverable) > (For us this could be a compilation from the last part of all the GEs sota) > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 16.03.2014 um 10:48 schrieb Philipp Slusallek < > Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de>: > > > Hi, > > > > I did go through the text and fixed quite a few missing references and > > marked some others that are still missing (please can some of the people > > involved in those GEs fix them). > > > > In general, there is a lack of references to previous work in quite a > > few of the GE descriptions. Please follow the model we have done in the > > middleware section and add some more references to previous work and > > then position your work in FI-WARE in relation to that. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Philipp > > > > > > Am 15.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I read through the paper in my behalf, and the text seems to be pretty > >> much collected from the text that has been formulated already earlier. I > >> my opinion, it gives an overview of the state of the art and as such I > >> would guess it works as a deliverable for this purpose. However, having > >> said that, I may not know all exact requirements what this deliverable > >> is expected to fulfill. > >> > >> I made minor changes here and there, mainly fixing misspellings and word > >> ordering. The modified document is attached here, with track changes > >> enabled. > >> > >> - jarkko > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Marti Christof (mach) >> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Philipp, dear WP13 GE Owners > >> > >> Also due in M36 is an updated version (D.2.6.3) of the "State of the > >> art analysis - emerging technologies" deliverable. The previous > >> release can be found here: > >> > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+-+Emerging+Technologies.pdf > >> < > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+%E2%80%93+Emerging+Technologies.pdf > > > >> > >> Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do > >> only required updates on the existing chapters. > >> Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last > >> deliverable I took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried > >> to put together a WP13 contribution for this deliverable. > >> It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a > >> proposal is a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I > >> would like to ask Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their > >> part) to review the attached document (in change tracking mode), add > >> missing content and in particular also add missing entries in the > >> "Reference" section. > >> > >> Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was > >> today (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review > >> roundtrip, this will not be feasible. > >> If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am > >> eye on the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be > >> minimal. > >> > >> Thanks for your contributions. > >> > >> @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of > >> Philipp and the domain experts. > >> > >> Best regards > >> Christof > >> ---- > >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > >> School of Engineering > >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > >> Skype: christof-marti > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fiware-miwi mailing list > >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > >> VP, Technology > >> Cyberlightning Ltd. > >> > >> mobile. +358 405245142 > >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > >> > >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > >> presentations! > >> > >> www.cyberlightning.com > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Hence, fixing >> the review comments in this scenario might be an interesting task for you. >> >> Hence, it has been suggested to leave the R3.2 doc as-is, and deliver it >> to the review. If you continue editin,, make a copy of that page for R3.3 >> and continue editing there. This way your working copy is different than >> the version in review, and hopefully funny conflicts are avoided. >> >> R3.3 document deadline is then 11th Apr, so the final changes need to be >> done before that. But this you already know. >> >> All the links the instructions for R3.3 documentation are in Miquel's >> previous email. Check there. >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Antti Kokko > > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Regarding to Minutes doc section 5. >>> >>> Do we write all installation/admin guide, programmers guide and test >>> plan separately for release 3.3? I understood while ago that we just update >>> the wiki pages we already have there for the previous release so I have >>> already been continuing documentation related to 3.3 release in those. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> - Antti >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Philipp Slusallek < >>> Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Sorry, I am at in Athens today. Unfortunately, my Hotel's Internet >>>> failed tonight and I have not been able to get a fast connection yet in >>>> order to join (I am on an expensive mobile connection now, certainly not to >>>> be used for Telcos :-). >>>> >>>> Sorry, >>>> >>>> Philipp >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 19.03.2014 08:28, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >>>> >>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I prepared Agenda and Minutes of todays meeting: >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JlsLMBRpf-LiByNVlMBvwlsVFarcwjRJ_ >>>>> TdZJVsPLuo/edit?usp=sharing >>>>> >>>>> Hangout session: >>>>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjj145vkjskeff1941hah78?hl=de >>>>> >>>>> See you at 08:30. >>>>> >>>>> Christof >>>>> ---- >>>>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>>>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>>>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>>>> School of Engineering >>>>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>>>> Skype: christof-marti >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------------- >>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>>> >>>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Therefore I prepared the Dashboard to track the status of the Install&Admin, User&Programmers Guide, UTP and Software-Package: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=24 Deadline to have R3.3 ready for review is April 11th WP internal schedule: * [Thu March 20th] R3.3 dashboard available (Christof) (done) * [Fri March 21st] GEi owners declare if update planned -> Status: (no) new release planned * [Mon March 24th] Wiki pages for R3.3 available (Christof) (done) * [Wed April 2nd] Updated Guides & UTP available (GEi owner) * [Wed April 9th] Reviewed Guides & UTP available AP [Friday March 21st] GEi Owner: Set the correct status for Guides, UTP & SW according to the following table: (select from the pulldown-list; at the moment only the first 3 entries should be used) NO update in R3.3 Not planned to update for R3.3 Updating for R3.3 Working on update for R3.3 Internal review Ready for internal review (please notify also reviewer) Int review & NOK Reviewed* & fixes required (review doc) Int review & OK Reviewed* & OK Coord review Ready for review by coordinator Coord review & NOK Reviewed & fixes required (->cockpit) Coord review & OK Reviewed & OK Delivered Delivered Public In public wiki *) set by reviewer When is an update for a Guide/UTP required? * When you deliver a new software release you should also provide updated Guides and UTP * Bugfixes, minor updates and enhancements, which are R3.2 compatible can be done directly in the R3.2 documents * Updates NOT compatible with the R3.2 version only in the R3.3 version. The links in the Dashboard already point to the new (empty) R3.3 pages. To start the R3.3 version simply copy the content from the R3.2 page. If you have questions on this process, please do not hesitate to ask. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Fri Mar 21 10:25:34 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (toni at playsign.net) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:25:34 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] =?utf-8?q?chapter_name=3F_=28Re=3A__Setting_up_the_?= =?utf-8?q?=22Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in?= =?utf-8?q?_FI-WARE=22_page=29?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140321093031.0E9BA1E8840@dionysos.netplaza.fi> What is the right chapter name for our feature wiki pages? I tried to fix all WebTundra issues a couple of days ago and mostly succeeded but those chapter names are still wrong. Ended up following the instruction in that message below: to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. But based on the latest report that is wrong. I did not find info from Manuel?s mails nor in the wiki - tried to search for valid chapter names there etc. Also failed to find correct ones in any of the other MiWi entries. I put my next guess now, the short version of that human sentence one that Christof said: AdvWebUI. ~Toni From: Christof Marti Sent: ?Friday?, ?March? ?14?, ?2014 ?5?:?50? ?PM To: FI-WARE, MiWi Cc: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Dear WP13 GEi owners As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. Links to Features your GEi is implementing. The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. If you have done this.Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mev at tid.es Fri Mar 21 10:49:43 2014 From: mev at tid.es (MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:49:43 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] chapter name? (Re: Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) In-Reply-To: <20140321093031.0E9BA1E8840@dionysos.netplaza.fi> References: <20140321093031.0E9BA1E8840@dionysos.netplaza.fi> Message-ID: <65CDBE2E7E5A964BB8BC5F4328FDE90BB31B7822@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> Hi Toni, The official name I know for your chapter is MiWi, so I check against it. Yesterday I asked Christof to clarify it urgently but no replay came to me. The day before I had explored the most common value, which was MiWi. Kind regards, Manuel From: toni at playsign.net [mailto:toni at playsign.net] Sent: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 10:26 To: Christof Marti; FI-WARE, MiWi; MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Subject: chapter name? (Re: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) What is the right chapter name for our feature wiki pages? I tried to fix all WebTundra issues a couple of days ago and mostly succeeded but those chapter names are still wrong. Ended up following the instruction in that message below: * to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. But based on the latest report that is wrong. I did not find info from Manuel?s mails nor in the wiki - tried to search for valid chapter names there etc. Also failed to find correct ones in any of the other MiWi entries. I put my next guess now, the short version of that human sentence one that Christof said: AdvWebUI. ~Toni From: Christof Marti Sent: ?Friday?, ?March? ?14?, ?2014 ?5?:?50? ?PM To: FI-WARE, MiWi Cc: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Dear WP13 GEi owners As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: * Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) * Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. * Links to Features your GEi is implementing. * The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. If you have done this. Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: * In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi * In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. 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(Re: Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) In-Reply-To: <4f17aae6edbb45449f6a1ee99ce97974@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <20140321093031.0E9BA1E8840@dionysos.netplaza.fi> <4f17aae6edbb45449f6a1ee99ce97974@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <1D4C00F3-42AF-4893-A0A3-314EE24DECDA@zhaw.ch> Hi Manuel, hi Toni Chapter name is MiWi. (Did overlook this one sentence in the load of emails yesterday) When I wrote the instructions last week I was checking how the other chapters handled this and they were not uniform (e.g, Data or Data/Context or Data and Context Management, ?). So I thought it is not checked and to take the full name. In the meantime the policy changed and it is checked and typically the short name is used. So we follow the same rule. Best regards Christof Am 21.03.2014 um 10:49 schrieb MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE : > Hi Toni, > > The official name I know for your chapter is MiWi, so I check against it. > Yesterday I asked Christof to clarify it urgently but no replay came to me. > The day before I had explored the most common value, which was MiWi. > > Kind regards, > Manuel > > From: toni at playsign.net [mailto:toni at playsign.net] > Sent: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 10:26 > To: Christof Marti; FI-WARE, MiWi; MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE > Subject: chapter name? (Re: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) > > What is the right chapter name for our feature wiki pages? > > I tried to fix all WebTundra issues a couple of days ago and mostly succeeded but those chapter names are still wrong. > > Ended up following the instruction in that message below: > to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. > > But based on the latest report that is wrong. > > I did not find info from Manuel?s mails nor in the wiki - tried to search for valid chapter names there etc. > > Also failed to find correct ones in any of the other MiWi entries. > > I put my next guess now, the short version of that human sentence one that Christof said: AdvWebUI. > > ~Toni > > From: Christof Marti > Sent: ?Friday?, ?March? ?14?, ?2014 ?5?:?50? ?PM > To: FI-WARE, MiWi > Cc: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE > > Dear WP13 GEi owners > > As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. > You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE > (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) > > Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: > Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) > Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. > Links to Features your GEi is implementing. > The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. > If you have done this. Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: > https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI > There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: > In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi > In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row > Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA > (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) > > > As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: > https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE > > This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > Skype: christof-marti > > > > > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mev at tid.es Fri Mar 21 11:28:51 2014 From: mev at tid.es (MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:28:51 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] chapter name? (Re: Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) In-Reply-To: <1D4C00F3-42AF-4893-A0A3-314EE24DECDA@zhaw.ch> References: <20140321093031.0E9BA1E8840@dionysos.netplaza.fi> <4f17aae6edbb45449f6a1ee99ce97974@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <1D4C00F3-42AF-4893-A0A3-314EE24DECDA@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <65CDBE2E7E5A964BB8BC5F4328FDE90BB31B7858@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> Ok, thanks!! From: Christof Marti [mailto:mach at zhaw.ch] Sent: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 11:23 To: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Cc: toni at playsign.net; FI-WARE, MiWi Subject: Re: chapter name? (Re: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) Hi Manuel, hi Toni Chapter name is MiWi. (Did overlook this one sentence in the load of emails yesterday) When I wrote the instructions last week I was checking how the other chapters handled this and they were not uniform (e.g, Data or Data/Context or Data and Context Management, ?). So I thought it is not checked and to take the full name. In the meantime the policy changed and it is checked and typically the short name is used. So we follow the same rule. Best regards Christof Am 21.03.2014 um 10:49 schrieb MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE >: Hi Toni, The official name I know for your chapter is MiWi, so I check against it. Yesterday I asked Christof to clarify it urgently but no replay came to me. The day before I had explored the most common value, which was MiWi. Kind regards, Manuel From: toni at playsign.net [mailto:toni at playsign.net] Sent: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 10:26 To: Christof Marti; FI-WARE, MiWi; MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Subject: chapter name? (Re: [Fiware-miwi] Setting up the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE" page) What is the right chapter name for our feature wiki pages? I tried to fix all WebTundra issues a couple of days ago and mostly succeeded but those chapter names are still wrong. Ended up following the instruction in that message below: * to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. But based on the latest report that is wrong. I did not find info from Manuel?s mails nor in the wiki - tried to search for valid chapter names there etc. Also failed to find correct ones in any of the other MiWi entries. I put my next guess now, the short version of that human sentence one that Christof said: AdvWebUI. ~Toni From: Christof Marti Sent: ?Friday?, ?March? ?14?, ?2014 ?5?:?50? ?PM To: FI-WARE, MiWi Cc: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Dear WP13 GEi owners As discussed in todays meeting, following the instructions to setup your GEi infos on the "Materializing Advanced Middleware and Web User Interfaces in FI-WARE? page. You can find the page here: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE (it is also linked from the WP13 Dashboard [GE/GEI Infos] and the MiWi integration page) Please go to this page and edit for your GEi the following information: * Information about your Baseline Assets. This is general Infos of the Software/Packages your GE implementation is based on. Please add a separate page for each product you describe here. (see also the entries on the example page below) * Links to Epics your GEi is implementing. Attention: The name of the Epics have to start with "FIWARE.Epic.MiWi.? So you may have to copy the Epics from "FIWARE.Epic.WebUI.? If you do so, please also change the chapter field to.?Advanced Middleware and Web UI?. * Links to Features your GEi is implementing. * The Unit Testing Plan and Product Guides have to added later, as soon they are published in the public wiki. If you have done this. Please also update the links for your GEi on the roadmap page: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI There are two links on the roadmap page, which need to be updated: * In the textual overview part (1st half of the page) below the title of your GEi * In the table part (2nd half of the page) in the first column of your GEi?s row Point the link directly to the section for your GEi in the Materializing page: e.g. like for the Middleware : https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_User_Interfaces_in_FI-WARE#Advanced_Middleware_-_KIARA (simply take the link from the Materializing pages TOC entry) As an example for the entries on the Materializing page (Baseline Assets, Epics, Features, ?) have a look at the Cloud Chapter page: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Materializing_Cloud_Hosting_in_FI-WARE This should be done ASAP [latest by Monday March 17th evening], so we can add the link to the WP13 materializing page to the public wiki and fix the remaining tracker issues. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Fri Mar 21 12:45:19 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:45:19 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] D.2.6.3 SotA Analysis - Emerging technologies WP13 contribution (internal review roundtrip) In-Reply-To: References: <73EA1F59-A252-4548-9890-5D66EA566C55@zhaw.ch> <651885cad7d242269b82641bda628eb6@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> <785BCA63-A4ED-4E3D-8CFE-A2A7CF3A573B@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: All, Here are all the missing references. I did not edit them directly to the document since I at the moment do not have an access to Microsoft Word. Libreoffice would have just screwed the document. Anyway, all missing references are here as formatted list, so if you can copy-paste the list to the end of document, it would be very nice. - Vergauwem 06: Vergauwen M. and Van Gool, L. (2006) "Web-based 3D reconstruction service". Machine Vision and Applications (2006) 17. pp. 411-426 - Milgram 94: Milgram P., Takemura H., Utsumi A. and Kishino F. (1994) "Augmented Reality: A class of displays on the reality-virtuality continuum". - Azuma 01: Azuma R., Baillot Y., Behringer R., Feiner S. and Julier S. (2001) "Recent Advances in Augmented Reality". IEEE Computer Graphics and Applications table of contents archive.Volume 21 Issue 6. pp. 34-47. ISSN 0272-1716 Blair MacIntyre - Lowe 04: Lowe D. G. (2004) "Distinctive Image Features from Scale-Invariant Keypoints". International Journal of Computer Vision table of contents archive Volume 60 Issue 2. pp. 91-110. ISSN 0920-5691 - Bay 08: Bay H., Ess, A., Tuytelaars T. and Van Gool, L. (2008) "Speeded-up robust features (SURF)". Journal Computer Vision and Image Understanding archive Volume 110 Issue 3, June, 2008 pp. 346-359 - Forssen 07: Forssen P. and Lowe D. G. (2007) "Shape Descriptors for Maximally Stable Extremal Regions". Computer Vision, 2007. ICCV 2007. IEEE 11th International Conference on. pp. 1 - 8. ISSN : 1550-5499 - Engels 06: Engels C., Stew?nius H. and Nist? D. (2006) "Bundle Adjustment Rules" *Photogrammetric Computer Vision (PCV).* - Holmes 07: Holmes, S., Sibley. G., Klein, G. and Murray, D. W. (2007) "A Relative Frame Representation for Fixed-Time Bundle Adjustment in SFM". CRA'09 Proceedings of the 2009 IEEE international conference on Robotics and Automation. pp 2631-2636 - Vilhjalmsson 07: Vilhjalmsson, H., Cantelmo, N., Cassell, J., Chafai, N. E., Kipp, M., Kopp, S., Manxini, M., Marsella, S., Marshall, A. N., Pelachaud, C., Ruttkay, Z., Thorinsson, K. R., Welbergen, H and Werf, R J. (2007) "The behavior markup language: Recent developments and challenges". Intelligent Virtual Agents Lecture Notes in Computer Science Volume 4722, 2007, pp 99-111. ISSN 0302-9743 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Cvetan Stefanovski wrote: > Hello, > > Here's Adminotech part of the internal review for SotA > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Christof Marti wrote: > >> Hi Philipp >> >> Can I delegate the finalization of the D.2.6.3 WP13 SoTA contribution to >> you? >> >> I am very busy going through OpenSpecs v3 and create the D.13.1.3 >> Deliverable >> and also checking all the Release 3 comments (Guides, UTP) and prepare >> feedback >> for Miguel, to get the release-review process going again. >> >> Important: In todays WPL/WPA call it was pointed out, that we also have to >> provide a management summary (~ 1 page), containing only the newest >> developments. >> (For the other chapters this are the changes since last release of the >> deliverable) >> (For us this could be a compilation from the last part of all the GEs >> sota) >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> >> Am 16.03.2014 um 10:48 schrieb Philipp Slusallek < >> Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de>: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I did go through the text and fixed quite a few missing references and >> > marked some others that are still missing (please can some of the people >> > involved in those GEs fix them). >> > >> > In general, there is a lack of references to previous work in quite a >> > few of the GE descriptions. Please follow the model we have done in the >> > middleware section and add some more references to previous work and >> > then position your work in FI-WARE in relation to that. >> > >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Philipp >> > >> > >> > Am 15.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I read through the paper in my behalf, and the text seems to be pretty >> >> much collected from the text that has been formulated already earlier. >> I >> >> my opinion, it gives an overview of the state of the art and as such I >> >> would guess it works as a deliverable for this purpose. However, having >> >> said that, I may not know all exact requirements what this deliverable >> >> is expected to fulfill. >> >> >> >> I made minor changes here and there, mainly fixing misspellings and >> word >> >> ordering. The modified document is attached here, with track changes >> >> enabled. >> >> >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Marti Christof (mach) > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Philipp, dear WP13 GE Owners >> >> >> >> Also due in M36 is an updated version (D.2.6.3) of the "State of the >> >> art analysis - emerging technologies" deliverable. The previous >> >> release can be found here: >> >> >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+-+Emerging+Technologies.pdf >> >> < >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/7/2667/D.2.6.2+State+of+the+Art+Analysis+%E2%80%93+Emerging+Technologies.pdf >> > >> >> >> >> Idea for all existing WPs is to provide a management summary and do >> >> only required updates on the existing chapters. >> >> Because there is no Web User Interfaces chapter in the last >> >> deliverable I took the content from the FI-Core proposal and tried >> >> to put together a WP13 contribution for this deliverable. >> >> It was more work than expected, because the writing style in a >> >> proposal is a little bit different than for this deliverable. So I >> >> would like to ask Philipp (and the respective GE owner for their >> >> part) to review the attached document (in change tracking mode), add >> >> missing content and in particular also add missing entries in the >> >> "Reference" section. >> >> >> >> Deadline for delivering updates to the coordinator for review is/was >> >> today (March 14th). Because of this additional internal review >> >> roundtrip, this will not be feasible. >> >> If each GE owner can review its 20 to 30 lines and Philipp keeps am >> >> eye on the overarching context until Monday noon, the delay would be >> >> minimal. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your contributions. >> >> >> >> @Miguel, Juanjo: I do not want to release this without the OK of >> >> Philipp and the domain experts. >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Christof >> >> ---- >> >> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >> >> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >> >> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >> >> School of Engineering >> >> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >> >> Skype: christof-marti >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >> >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> >> VP, Technology >> >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your >> >> presentations! >> >> >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> > >> > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >> > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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URL: From toni at playsign.net Tue Mar 25 08:38:57 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:38:57 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] no Oulu bi-weekly today, small WebTundra meet now at 10 at LudoCraft Message-ID: Hi, just a note for info that we?ve now not organised an overall Oulu bi-weekly / Tuesday meet for today, but are instead having just a small probably pretty short WebTundra release coordination meet with Lasse at LudoCraft - just agreed this on irc yesterday evening. Me, Erno and Tapani from the Playsign team are going to visit there for change. We have several feature branches from multiple GEs being merged there so need to coordinate, namely 3DUI & Sync & Virtual Chars (and discuss SceneAPI) too. I figure everyone else is busy with their GEs too for the release so not much time to sit in meetings for fun :p .. and that tomorrow weekly works to coordinate next steps overall. We?re certainly open to discuss web client & server etc. related things with others too but this is just happening like this now. Cheers, ~Toni From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Wed Mar 26 05:17:36 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 05:17:36 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Facebook buys Oculus for $2+ Billion Message-ID: <533254E0.90002@dfki.de> Wow! It seems that Facebook shares our vision that interactive 3D graphics and wants to drive VR/AR as a big factor for Future Internet communication: "While the applications for virtual reality technology beyond gaming are in their nascent stages, several industries are already experimenting with the technology," Facebook said in a blog post. "Facebook plans to extend Oculus' existing advantage in gaming to new verticals, including communications, media and entertainment, education, and other areas,". "The history of our industry is that every 10 or 15 years, there's a new major computing platform, whether it's the PC, the web, or now mobile," Zuckerberg continued on a conference call following the announcement. "History suggests that there will be more platforms to come, and that whoever builds and defines these will not only shape all of these experiences that our industry builds, but also benefit financially and strategically." He believe that "vision," in the form of virtual and augmented reality technologies, will form the basis of that next major platform. See: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/03/facebook-purchases-vr-headset-maker-oculus-for-2-billion/ However, we also need to be careful as Facebook is obviously very controversial. For example, Minecraft immediately stopped working on an Oculus version of their game (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/03/minecraft-dev-halts-talks-with-oculus-following-facebook-acquisition/). Still, this acquisition will give the entire field a big boost anyway in particular with respect to non-gaming applications. And the animosity relating to Facebook probably creates many new opportunities elsewhere -- including us. Just yesterday I had talked with Stefan Lemme and Torsten that we should organize a joint meeting discussing how to best drive our WP13 technology for the next two years in FI-Core also taking into account FI-Content and other activities that we are all involved in. We planed to invite for such an event pretty soon and this only makes such discussions much more relevant. Best, Philipp -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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My calendar said to me it was supposed to start 20 minutes ago, am I early? :D - jarkko 2014-03-26 8:26 GMT+02:00 Philipp Slusallek : > Hi all, > > I will be a bit late today and have to leave already at 10:45. > > > Sorry, > > Philipp > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcp at tid.es Wed Mar 26 09:27:21 2014 From: mcp at tid.es (Miguel Carrillo) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:27:21 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: Auto-discard notification In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53328F69.3030807@tid.es> Dear all, Please see the attached message. 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Best, Philipp Am 26.03.2014 08:49, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Hello, > > Are we having the meeting in the first place? My calendar said to me it > was supposed to start 20 minutes ago, am I early? :D > > - jarkko > > > 2014-03-26 8:26 GMT+02:00 Philipp Slusallek >: > > Hi all, > > I will be a bit late today and have to leave already at 10:45. > > > Sorry, > > Philipp > -- > > ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------__------------------------------__--------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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My calendar said to me it >> was supposed to start 20 minutes ago, am I early? :D >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> 2014-03-26 8:26 GMT+02:00 Philipp Slusallek > >: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I will be a bit late today and have to leave already at 10:45. >> >> >> Sorry, >> >> Philipp >> -- >> >> ------------------------------__---------------------------- >> --__------------- >> >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> >> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 >> ------------------------------__---------------------------- >> --__--------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> VP, Technology >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your >> presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > -- Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila VP, Technology Cyberlightning Ltd. mobile. +358 405245142 email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Wed Mar 26 09:38:32 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:38:32 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Miwi Call today In-Reply-To: References: <5332731D.2090900@dfki.de> <53329133.307@dfki.de> Message-ID: <53329208.4060805@dfki.de> Hi, Thanks, apparently missed that. Sorry, Philipp Am 26.03.2014 09:36, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Philipp, this was changed a while ago already due the Christof's lecture > schedule. Last week we had it 8:30 CET. > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Philipp Slusallek > > wrote: > > Hi, > > Our call is usally at 10h our time. This is also what is in my calendar. > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 26.03.2014 08 :49, schrieb Jarkko > Vatjus-Anttila: > > Hello, > > Are we having the meeting in the first place? My calendar said > to me it > was supposed to start 20 minutes ago, am I early? :D > > - jarkko > > > 2014-03-26 8:26 GMT+02:00 Philipp Slusallek > > >>: > > > Hi all, > > I will be a bit late today and have to leave already at 10:45. > > > Sorry, > > Philipp > -- > > > ------------------------------____----------------------------__--__------------- > > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz > (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > > ------------------------------____----------------------------__--__--------------- > > _________________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > > > > > https://lists.fi-ware.org/__listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > > > > Go to www.cybersli.de > and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------__------------------------------__--------------- > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > VP, Technology > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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I think we were going to preorder the Oculus DK2 model so we can get that working also ASAP, but I think now we'll have to wait and see what this facebook stuff actually does to the project. Hopefully they wont steer it too much away from the original goals of being a hackable device for the PC platform. I guess the horror case (that people seem to be assuming) would be that you need to login via facebook as a user to see anything, or popup ads or stuff like that :) Also Facebook has a history with user privacy violations etc. Ofc this will increase their budget and get a ton of devs working on it if they wish. And potentially they might make browsers work somehow nicer and maybe make the browser detect and interact with the Oculus device, as thats Facebooks main platform. Or they could do a native app for nicer experience, we'll have to wait and see. Best regards, Jonne Nauha Meshmoon developer at Adminotech Ltd. www.meshmoon.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Philipp Slusallek < Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Wow! > > It seems that Facebook shares our vision that interactive 3D graphics and > wants to drive VR/AR as a big factor for Future Internet communication: > > "While the applications for virtual reality technology beyond gaming are > in their nascent stages, several industries are already experimenting with > the technology," Facebook said in a blog post. "Facebook plans to extend > Oculus' existing advantage in gaming to new verticals, including > communications, media and entertainment, education, and other areas,". > > "The history of our industry is that every 10 or 15 years, there's a new > major computing platform, whether it's the PC, the web, or now mobile," > Zuckerberg continued on a conference call following the announcement. > "History suggests that there will be more platforms to come, and that > whoever builds and defines these will not only shape all of these > experiences that our industry builds, but also benefit financially and > strategically." He believe that "vision," in the form of virtual and > augmented reality technologies, will form the basis of that next major > platform. > > See: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/03/facebook- > purchases-vr-headset-maker-oculus-for-2-billion/ > > However, we also need to be careful as Facebook is obviously very > controversial. For example, Minecraft immediately stopped working on an > Oculus version of their game (https://arstechnica.com/ > gaming/2014/03/minecraft-dev-halts-talks-with-oculus-following-facebook- > acquisition/). > > Still, this acquisition will give the entire field a big boost anyway in > particular with respect to non-gaming applications. And the animosity > relating to Facebook probably creates many new opportunities elsewhere -- > including us. > > Just yesterday I had talked with Stefan Lemme and Torsten that we should > organize a joint meeting discussing how to best drive our WP13 technology > for the next two years in FI-Core also taking into account FI-Content and > other activities that we are all involved in. We planed to invite for such > an event pretty soon and this only makes such discussions much more > relevant. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The KIARA issues are in tab ?Middle?. https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/3677/FIWARE.backlog.miwi.review.20140327.xlsx I already fixed the remaining C1-C6 issues, but we still need to fix the 54 C7 issues: 2 are for missing Feature Descriptions in the public wiki - FIWARE.Feature.MiWi.Middleware.Security.ExampleSecurityPolicy - FIWARE.Feature.MiWi.Middleware.Security.TLSSupport The links to the empty pages can be found on the roadmap page and we simply need to add the Feature description: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Roadmap_of_Advanced_Middleware_and_Web_UI#List_of_new_features_for_this_release The remaining issues are about to less detailed descriptions in certain fields: - Goal field (>= 10 words) - Description field (>= 30 words) - Rationale field (>= 20 words) - Overall fields (<= 250 words) **Please enhance the descriptions of the requested Features/Epics assigned to you latest until Monday EOB.** Thanks, Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Mar 28 13:02:56 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:02:56 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] agenda/minutes of todays meeting Message-ID: <6974025E-B4F1-4C9D-835D-A48656F16B84@zhaw.ch> Hi I prepared the agenda/minutes of todays meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CHhRFEd_KgTrMsdf1rJ6WrEpI9xNQe3dKwToJAu4qTE/edit Here is the hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpjhshhtq2c2vjtpjv9d11p4?hl=de Please also add your availability for the F2F meeting in Winterthur to the following doodle. The polls open since 2 weeks and most you are still missing!!! http://doodle.com/qe7ufxfzua5ur3b9 If you can not attend the meeting please check the document and action points. At the moment it seams as all Deadlines are ignored. Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de Mon Mar 31 05:21:54 2014 From: Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 05:21:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] SIMD.js (Parallel-JS) in FF and in Chrome Message-ID: <5338DF52.2060808@dfki.de> Hi, It seems that he Paralle-Javascript work by Intel (Stephan Herhut et al.) is finally getting into browsers for real (apparently now called SIMD.js): http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/1ocPa94mBac/vr.php Probably the best short term option for acceleration, given the time OpenCL takes to become available in browsers. That is, unless we get Shade.js running for all of Xflow, such that we do not have to care any more. 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Best, Kristian Am 31.03.2014 05:21, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: > Hi, > > It seems that he Paralle-Javascript work by Intel (Stephan Herhut et > al.) is finally getting into browsers for real (apparently now called > SIMD.js): > http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/1ocPa94mBac/vr.php > > Probably the best short term option for acceleration, given the time > OpenCL takes to become available in browsers. > > That is, unless we get Shade.js running for all of Xflow, such that we > do not have to care any more. > > > Best, > > Philipp > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Kristian Sons Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH, DFKI Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t Campus, Geb. 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