From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Mon Sep 1 11:36:48 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 11:36:48 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: Re: Robotics and Web-Based 3D-UIs in FI-CORE? In-Reply-To: <54043D18.7050405@dfki.de> References: <54043D18.7050405@dfki.de> Message-ID: <54043E30.9010705@dfki.de> Hi all, I have suggested a joint session between WP1.4 (IoT), WP1.5 (UI), and WP1.8 (Robotics and Adv-Middleware) for the Kick-Off meeting of FI-Core. This was well supported by Thierry (IoT) so far and I expect also by the Robotics people. There is now also a proposal for a joint session with the Media guys, which makes a lot of sense to me. Anything else someone would like to see? You find all the data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jdKXMES-b4Vp3jb8612qn53psXzmyygP8yqAFmR2EJo/edit#gid=1273878550 Best, Philipp -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: Robotics and Web-Based 3D-UIs in FI-CORE? Datum: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 11:32:08 +0200 Von: Philipp Slusallek Organisation: DFKI, Saarland University, and Intel Visual Computing Institute An: thierry.nagellen at orange.com, ahernandez at ikergune.com , pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Hi Thierry, This does make a lot of sense to me. So, this would be a joint WP1.4, WP1.5, WP1.8 session, right. I have modified my entry to that effect and added you as a co-proposer >From my persective this would replace the one suggested session by me. If this this also true for your joint WP1.8 & WP1.4 session, you might want to delete that in the list. Piereangelo, Angel, feel free to add yourself to the list of proposers, if you agree on this approach. BTW, I called this session Joint Session between WP1.4, WP1.5, and WP1.8 on IoT, Robotics, and Real-time 3D Visualization and Control (Dual Reality) This is just a working titel for now and probably does not make much of a difference either. But feel free to suggest changes. Best, Philipp Am 01.09.2014 um 11:23 schrieb thierry.nagellen at orange.com: > Hi all, > > Maybe we could organize unique session? I think that it could be how Robotics could take benefit or interact with other Geris from other WPs, at least in a first step and to define a list of actions that could be managed separately, this is just to avoid too many // sessions which could be an organization nightmare and miss concrete and operational outputs at the end because people could not attend all the meetings. > > BR > Thierry > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Philipp Slusallek [mailto:philipp.slusallek at dfki.de] > Envoy? : lundi 1 septembre 2014 11:19 > ? : ahernandez at ikergune.com; pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it > Cc : NAGELLEN Thierry IMT/OLPS > Objet : Robotics and Web-Based 3D-UIs in FI-CORE? > > Hi Angel, Pierangelo, > > At the proposalwriting meeting in Madrid many month ago I had some discussions With Angel about the possible collaboration between our interactive 3D Visualization GEs in WP1.5 and the new Robotics work in of WP1.8 (where we are also active with respect to the Advanced Middleware KIARA that we are mostly responsible for at DFKI). > > I would like to invite you (and anyone that may be interested) to a joint session between WP1.5 and WP18. I have suggested such a joint session in the spreadsheet. Hope you agree. > > @Thierry: I think there are some direct connections also to your joint session with WP1.8. I will try to be attending that as well, and maybe it makes sense if you or others come to the joint WP1.3/WP1.8 session? > > > We are actually also using the Advanced Middleware GE (KIARA) from WP1.8 in our real-time virtual world scenario that we will be demonstrating at ECFI in Munich later this month. Integration of IoT devices is of high importance to us at DFKI but also for other WP1.5 partners, including CyberLighting. I can see a good potential for some nice collaboration between these WPs in FI-Core > > > Best, > > Philipp > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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Name: philipp_slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jarkko at cyberlightning.com Tue Sep 2 07:30:29 2014 From: jarkko at cyberlightning.com (Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:30:29 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] DFKI ECFI Demo In-Reply-To: <540025D1.1090808@dfki.de> References: <53FC4F1B.4020706@dfki.de> <53FEF21A.8030500@dfki.de> <540025D1.1090808@dfki.de> Message-ID: Torsten, We will take a look at the buildings, I think we manage to import them. Those will be silhouettes so they have to be extruded on the client side. Just to clarify, is this the place where we should pull the buildings for? https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2637405,11.6704774,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Torsten Spieldenner < torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: > Hello, > > I talked to Stefan again, and the most important part seems to be only the > building data, thus, the points from which the extruded buildings could be > generated. As for elevation, also the satellite data does not need to be > considered at this point. So if the GIS-provider could provide this > building data fur TU Campus in Munich in a format that allows to create > extruded buildings in XML3D representation - or even the extruded buildings > directly - , this would be awesome. > > ~ Torsten > > Am 8/28/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > > Hello, > > We dug this a little bit more. > > Elevation is available from SRTM set, but with 90m grid resolution. So it > would be very poor. Like you said, we can replace the elevation with > zeroes, hence producing artificial flat terrain. > > There are no buildings available as far as we know. Some could be > retrieved for testing from Open streetmap, but that requires some > programming and will not be a single day task. We may look at this approach > as well, though. > > Aerial images are available some instance in Germany, I guess it is > similar to Finnish geographical institute, but they say in their web page > we'd need to contact "Dienstleistungszentrum" before receiving the > material. < > http://www.bkg.bund.de/nn_159816/EN/FederalOffice/Products/Geo-Data/Geo__Data__node.html__nnn=true > > > > So, in summary: if you can point us to data in Germany, we'd be able to go > forward faster. Entschuldigen sie bitte aber wir sprechen nicht Deutsch. :) > > - jarkko > > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < > torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> actually, elevation data is not important. We are currently planning flat >> ground tiles as also shown in the example. The building data should >> publicly available from Bing Maps, same for nice satellite images. >> >> @Stefan: Feel free to clarify this further if I am talking non-sense here >> ;) >> >> Also the region of TU Munich, where ECFI will take place, would be >> sufficient. >> >> Best, >> Torsten >> >> Am 8/27/2014 8:47 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> >> Hello, >> >> Regarding for the German data I think that could be pulled from the SRTM >> data set. The elevation there is with 30m grid spacing, so it is not the >> most accurate data but at least it is free. Aerial images are uncertain >> whether they are available, and the same applies to the building >> information. >> >> In Finland our geographical institute provides the data for free, but do >> you have any information are the similar instances in Germany? That would >> help a lot. >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < >> torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that uses >>> Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, like GIS Data Provider and >>> possibly POI. >>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be explored by >>> users that are represented by avatars. I've uploaded a demonstration how >>> this may look like to the Testbed: >>> >>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >>> >>> The demo looks like this: >>> >>> >>> >>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the password field for >>> login. The demo may run a bit laggy when accessed from the testbed, but >>> runs perfectly fine when installed on local servers. >>> >>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland University with no >>> building data. >>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we could have data of >>> Munich, together with building data, available. >>> >>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider instance that >>> serves Munich, or even all of Germany, with building data of Munich campus >>> for the ECFI demo? Stefan may be able to give more information which data >>> is exactly needed. >>> >>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs located on the >>> campus area that is then visualized within the 3D representation. Would it >>> be possible to provide a POI Data Provider instance with a set POI together >>> with an XML3D visualization for the area of the campus? >>> >>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>> Torsten >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> CTO >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> See our new press release: >> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without >> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> >> -- >> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >> >> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >> >> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > CTO > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > See our new press release: > http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without > producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > > > -- > Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. > > Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 > Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 > > Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsfuehrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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A first draft of our agenda is now at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARSL4SG1APBYcvLC_o3Blz2UWv3N_MC_m7rgkT8DeFQ/edit#gid=76347424 >From my perspective after a general startup and review of what we plan to be doing, we should focus in the first part on how we would like to interact with the IoT, the Media, the App, and the Robotics/Middleware groups in FI-CORE, which seem to be the ones most relevant for us. This will also help us having a meaningful discussion in the joint sessions, which will take place between the first and the second time slot for our WP. I have set up a few joint session with those other groups already so we can first discuss this briefly internally, then go into the discussion with the other groups, and finally have a review and possible decisions intenally again. For more info on the Kickoff please see the (master) document at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jdKXMES-b4Vp3jb8612qn53psXzmyygP8yqAFmR2EJo/edit#gid=1273878550 Best, Philipp -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Ficore-kick-off] Proposed WPs Time Slots (Sessions) and Progressing on Agendas - request for action Datum: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:33:28 +0000 Von: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE An: ficore-kick-off at tid.es Dear Work Package Leaders, Please, access the link below to outline your WP's agenda. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARSL4SG1APBYcvLC_o3Blz2UWv3N_MC_m7rgkT8DeFQ/edit#gid=1429886323 Time slots: First proposal: WP 1.4 and WP 1.1 are running on Tuesday afternoon, in plenary sessions. Stream 1 - From WP1.2 to WP1.8 are running in parallel Wednesday and Thursday Morning. Their time slot is 8 hours, 4 hours each day. WP2.1, WP2.2, WP3.1, WP3.2 and WP3.3 are running in parallel Wednesday and Thursday Afternoon. Their time slot is 6 hours, 3 hours each day. WP 4.2 - 2 hours in plenary session, Friday morning, last day Cross Session, they are pending of allocation. Request: I need WP Leaders to assess the initial time slots are fine for you, or you wish to make them shorter (o... larger). Once WP session length are estimated, please, update the agendas "Time Slots" fields so that I can propose time slots for Cross work package sessions. Please, WP Leaders, you can state/propose topics for your Work Package. I assume on Tuesday Morning you'll be reviewing them with Juanjo during the WPL/WPA Work Session. Let me refresh that I plan to update the number of attendees, and allocate concrete room numbers depending on your input on the Attendee List (column E) in the link below read this afternoon at 16:00 CET as informed this morning. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jdKXMES-b4Vp3jb8612qn53psXzmyygP8yqAFmR2EJo/edit#gid=1953510570 Thanks for cooperation!! 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Name: philipp_slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de Tue Sep 2 11:52:10 2014 From: torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de (Torsten Spieldenner) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:52:10 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] DFKI ECFI Demo In-Reply-To: References: <53FC4F1B.4020706@dfki.de> <53FEF21A.8030500@dfki.de> <540025D1.1090808@dfki.de> Message-ID: <5405934A.6040306@dfki.de> Thank you very much! If I understood Stefan correctly, the silhouettes are sufficient, as as you already pointed out, client can take care of the extrusion. This place is exactly the one I am currently using, too, yes. Best, Torsten Am 9/2/2014 7:30 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Torsten, > > We will take a look at the buildings, I think we manage to import > them. Those will be silhouettes so they have to be extruded on the > client side. > > Just to clarify, is this the place where we should pull the buildings for? > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2637405,11.6704774,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US > > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Torsten Spieldenner > > wrote: > > Hello, > > I talked to Stefan again, and the most important part seems to be > only the building data, thus, the points from which the extruded > buildings could be generated. As for elevation, also the satellite > data does not need to be considered at this point. So if the > GIS-provider could provide this building data fur TU Campus in > Munich in a format that allows to create extruded buildings in > XML3D representation - or even the extruded buildings directly - , > this would be awesome. > > ~ Torsten > > Am 8/28/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> Hello, >> >> We dug this a little bit more. >> >> Elevation is available from SRTM set, but with 90m grid >> resolution. So it would be very poor. Like you said, we can >> replace the elevation with zeroes, hence producing artificial >> flat terrain. >> >> There are no buildings available as far as we know. Some could be >> retrieved for testing from Open streetmap, but that requires some >> programming and will not be a single day task. We may look at >> this approach as well, though. >> >> Aerial images are available some instance in Germany, I guess it >> is similar to Finnish geographical institute, but they say in >> their web page we'd need to contact "Dienstleistungszentrum" >> before receiving the material. >> >> >> So, in summary: if you can point us to data in Germany, we'd be >> able to go forward faster. Entschuldigen sie bitte aber wir >> sprechen nicht Deutsch. :) >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner >> > > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> actually, elevation data is not important. We are currently >> planning flat ground tiles as also shown in the example. The >> building data should publicly available from Bing Maps, same >> for nice satellite images. >> >> @Stefan: Feel free to clarify this further if I am talking >> non-sense here ;) >> >> Also the region of TU Munich, where ECFI will take place, >> would be sufficient. >> >> Best, >> Torsten >> >> Am 8/27/2014 8:47 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Regarding for the German data I think that could be pulled >>> from the SRTM data set. The elevation there is with 30m grid >>> spacing, so it is not the most accurate data but at least it >>> is free. Aerial images are uncertain whether they are >>> available, and the same applies to the building information. >>> >>> In Finland our geographical institute provides the data for >>> free, but do you have any information are the similar >>> instances in Germany? That would help a lot. >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that >>> uses Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, >>> like GIS Data Provider and possibly POI. >>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be >>> explored by users that are represented by avatars. I've >>> uploaded a demonstration how this may look like to the >>> Testbed: >>> >>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >>> >>> The demo looks like this: >>> >>> >>> >>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the >>> password field for login. The demo may run a bit laggy >>> when accessed from the testbed, but runs perfectly fine >>> when installed on local servers. >>> >>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland >>> University with no building data. >>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we >>> could have data of Munich, together with building data, >>> available. >>> >>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider >>> instance that serves Munich, or even all of Germany, >>> with building data of Munich campus for the ECFI demo? >>> Stefan may be able to give more information which data >>> is exactly needed. >>> >>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs >>> located on the campus area that is then visualized >>> within the 3D representation. Would it be possible to >>> provide a POI Data Provider instance with a set POI >>> together with an XML3D visualization for the area of the >>> campus? >>> >>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>> Torsten >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> CTO >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> >>> See our new press release: >>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and >>> may contain legally privileged information. If you are not >>> the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete >>> the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing >>> or retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> -- >> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >> >> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >> >> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> CTO >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> See our new press release: >> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may >> contain legally privileged information. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the >> e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or >> retaining copies thereof. > > > -- > Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. > > Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 > Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 > > Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsfuehrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > CTO > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > See our new press release: > http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system > without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -- Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. 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Now I want to re-project the ortho photos using EPSG:3857 and adapted the query. It should return this tile as aerial map: http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/16/37421/17057.png http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=25.559692382812,64.993295416111,25.565185546875,64.995617409235&srs=EPSG:3857&format=image%2Fpng&width=256&height=256&bgcolor=0xFF8000&transparent=false The bbox is in decimal degrees of lon/lat and inside the range of the layer. But unfortunately the re-projection seems not to work as the result image is empty. I haven't tried this yet for the elevation and building data, but there might be a similar problem. Do you have an idea, where this issue comes from? Is it possibly an issue of the geoserver instance? Thanks in advance! Best, Stefan On 02.09.2014 07:30, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote: > Torsten, > > We will take a look at the buildings, I think we manage to import > them. Those will be silhouettes so they have to be extruded on the > client side. > > Just to clarify, is this the place where we should pull the buildings for? > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2637405,11.6704774,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US > > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Torsten Spieldenner > > wrote: > > Hello, > > I talked to Stefan again, and the most important part seems to be > only the building data, thus, the points from which the extruded > buildings could be generated. As for elevation, also the satellite > data does not need to be considered at this point. So if the > GIS-provider could provide this building data fur TU Campus in > Munich in a format that allows to create extruded buildings in > XML3D representation - or even the extruded buildings directly - , > this would be awesome. > > ~ Torsten > > Am 8/28/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> Hello, >> >> We dug this a little bit more. >> >> Elevation is available from SRTM set, but with 90m grid >> resolution. So it would be very poor. Like you said, we can >> replace the elevation with zeroes, hence producing artificial >> flat terrain. >> >> There are no buildings available as far as we know. Some could be >> retrieved for testing from Open streetmap, but that requires some >> programming and will not be a single day task. We may look at >> this approach as well, though. >> >> Aerial images are available some instance in Germany, I guess it >> is similar to Finnish geographical institute, but they say in >> their web page we'd need to contact "Dienstleistungszentrum" >> before receiving the material. >> >> >> So, in summary: if you can point us to data in Germany, we'd be >> able to go forward faster. Entschuldigen sie bitte aber wir >> sprechen nicht Deutsch. :) >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner >> > > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> actually, elevation data is not important. We are currently >> planning flat ground tiles as also shown in the example. The >> building data should publicly available from Bing Maps, same >> for nice satellite images. >> >> @Stefan: Feel free to clarify this further if I am talking >> non-sense here ;) >> >> Also the region of TU Munich, where ECFI will take place, >> would be sufficient. >> >> Best, >> Torsten >> >> Am 8/27/2014 8:47 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Regarding for the German data I think that could be pulled >>> from the SRTM data set. The elevation there is with 30m grid >>> spacing, so it is not the most accurate data but at least it >>> is free. Aerial images are uncertain whether they are >>> available, and the same applies to the building information. >>> >>> In Finland our geographical institute provides the data for >>> free, but do you have any information are the similar >>> instances in Germany? That would help a lot. >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that >>> uses Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, >>> like GIS Data Provider and possibly POI. >>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be >>> explored by users that are represented by avatars. I've >>> uploaded a demonstration how this may look like to the >>> Testbed: >>> >>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >>> >>> The demo looks like this: >>> >>> >>> >>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the >>> password field for login. The demo may run a bit laggy >>> when accessed from the testbed, but runs perfectly fine >>> when installed on local servers. >>> >>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland >>> University with no building data. >>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we >>> could have data of Munich, together with building data, >>> available. >>> >>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider >>> instance that serves Munich, or even all of Germany, >>> with building data of Munich campus for the ECFI demo? >>> Stefan may be able to give more information which data >>> is exactly needed. >>> >>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs >>> located on the campus area that is then visualized >>> within the 3D representation. Would it be possible to >>> provide a POI Data Provider instance with a set POI >>> together with an XML3D visualization for the area of the >>> campus? >>> >>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>> Torsten >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> CTO >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> >>> See our new press release: >>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and >>> may contain legally privileged information. If you are not >>> the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete >>> the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing >>> or retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> -- >> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >> >> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >> >> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> CTO >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> See our new press release: >> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may >> contain legally privileged information. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the >> e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or >> retaining copies thereof. > > > -- > Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. > > Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 > Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 > > Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsfuehrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > CTO > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > See our new press release: > http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system > without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -- ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 66123 Saarbr?cken Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web ******************************************************** Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Stra?e 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ ******************************************************** ******************************************************** Stefan Lemme DFKI GmbH Agents and Simulated Reality Campus, Build. 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Best, Stefan On 9/2/2014 1:55 PM, Stefan Lemme wrote: > > Hi Jarkko, > > I'm currently playing with the GIS-DP and started with your sample > query for aerial imaging. > > http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=427481,7210400,428200,7211000&width=512&height=512&srs=EPSG:3067&format=image%2Fjpeg > > I received the following layer information from geoserver using the > GetCapabilities request: > > > terrain_texture_orto > terrain_texture_orto > > > WCS > ImageMosaic > orto > > EPSG:3067 > > miny="64.88964457393377" maxx="26.44560661674329" > maxy="68.21055274289459"/> > maxx="434000.0" maxy="7560000.0"/> > > > > It states that the layer is in the same CRS as your request (EPSG:3067). > > Now I want to re-project the ortho photos using EPSG:3857 and adapted > the query. > It should return this tile as aerial map: > http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/16/37421/17057.png > > http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=25.559692382812,64.993295416111,25.565185546875,64.995617409235&srs=EPSG:3857&format=image%2Fpng&width=256&height=256&bgcolor=0xFF8000&transparent=false > > The bbox is in decimal degrees of lon/lat and inside the range of the > layer. > But unfortunately the re-projection seems not to work as the result > image is empty. > > I haven't tried this yet for the elevation and building data, but > there might be a similar problem. > > Do you have an idea, where this issue comes from? > Is it possibly an issue of the geoserver instance? > > Thanks in advance! > > Best, > Stefan > > > On 02.09.2014 07:30, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote: >> Torsten, >> >> We will take a look at the buildings, I think we manage to import >> them. Those will be silhouettes so they have to be extruded on the >> client side. >> >> Just to clarify, is this the place where we should pull the buildings >> for? >> >> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2637405,11.6704774,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Torsten Spieldenner >> > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I talked to Stefan again, and the most important part seems to be >> only the building data, thus, the points from which the extruded >> buildings could be generated. As for elevation, also the >> satellite data does not need to be considered at this point. So >> if the GIS-provider could provide this building data fur TU >> Campus in Munich in a format that allows to create extruded >> buildings in XML3D representation - or even the extruded >> buildings directly - , this would be awesome. >> >> ~ Torsten >> >> Am 8/28/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>> Hello, >>> >>> We dug this a little bit more. >>> >>> Elevation is available from SRTM set, but with 90m grid >>> resolution. So it would be very poor. Like you said, we can >>> replace the elevation with zeroes, hence producing artificial >>> flat terrain. >>> >>> There are no buildings available as far as we know. Some could >>> be retrieved for testing from Open streetmap, but that requires >>> some programming and will not be a single day task. We may look >>> at this approach as well, though. >>> >>> Aerial images are available some instance in Germany, I guess it >>> is similar to Finnish geographical institute, but they say in >>> their web page we'd need to contact "Dienstleistungszentrum" >>> before receiving the material. >>> >>> >>> So, in summary: if you can point us to data in Germany, we'd be >>> able to go forward faster. Entschuldigen sie bitte aber wir >>> sprechen nicht Deutsch. :) >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> actually, elevation data is not important. We are currently >>> planning flat ground tiles as also shown in the example. The >>> building data should publicly available from Bing Maps, same >>> for nice satellite images. >>> >>> @Stefan: Feel free to clarify this further if I am talking >>> non-sense here ;) >>> >>> Also the region of TU Munich, where ECFI will take place, >>> would be sufficient. >>> >>> Best, >>> Torsten >>> >>> Am 8/27/2014 8:47 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Regarding for the German data I think that could be pulled >>>> from the SRTM data set. The elevation there is with 30m >>>> grid spacing, so it is not the most accurate data but at >>>> least it is free. Aerial images are uncertain whether they >>>> are available, and the same applies to the building >>>> information. >>>> >>>> In Finland our geographical institute provides the data for >>>> free, but do you have any information are the similar >>>> instances in Germany? That would help a lot. >>>> >>>> - jarkko >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI >>>> that uses Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other >>>> GE, like GIS Data Provider and possibly POI. >>>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be >>>> explored by users that are represented by avatars. I've >>>> uploaded a demonstration how this may look like to the >>>> Testbed: >>>> >>>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >>>> >>>> The demo looks like this: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the >>>> password field for login. The demo may run a bit laggy >>>> when accessed from the testbed, but runs perfectly fine >>>> when installed on local servers. >>>> >>>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland >>>> University with no building data. >>>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we >>>> could have data of Munich, together with building data, >>>> available. >>>> >>>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider >>>> instance that serves Munich, or even all of Germany, >>>> with building data of Munich campus for the ECFI demo? >>>> Stefan may be able to give more information which data >>>> is exactly needed. >>>> >>>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs >>>> located on the campus area that is then visualized >>>> within the 3D representation. Would it be possible to >>>> provide a POI Data Provider instance with a set POI >>>> together with an XML3D visualization for the area of >>>> the campus? >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>>> Torsten >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>>> >>>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>>> >>>> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>>> >>>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>>> >>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>>> >>>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>>> CTO >>>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>>> >>>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>>> >>>> >>>> See our new press release: >>>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>>> >>>> www.cyberlightning.com >>>> >>>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and >>>> may contain legally privileged information. If you are not >>>> the intended recipient, please contact the sender and >>>> delete the e-mail from your system without >>>> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> CTO >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> See our new press release: >>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may >>> contain legally privileged information. If you are not the >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the >>> e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or >>> retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> -- >> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >> >> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >> >> Internet:http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> CTO >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> See our new press release: >> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may >> contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your >> system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 > http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. 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On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Stefan Lemme wrote: > > Ok, solved! > > > > Let's go for elevation and building data ... > > Best, > Stefan > > > > On 9/2/2014 1:55 PM, Stefan Lemme wrote: > > > Hi Jarkko, > > I'm currently playing with the GIS-DP and started with your sample query > for aerial imaging. > > > http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=427481,7210400,428200,7211000&width=512&height=512&srs=EPSG:3067&format=image%2Fjpeg > > I received the following layer information from geoserver using the > GetCapabilities request: > > > terrain_texture_orto > terrain_texture_orto > > > WCS > ImageMosaic > orto > > EPSG:3067 > > miny="64.88964457393377" maxx="26.44560661674329" maxy="68.21055274289459"/> > maxx="434000.0" maxy="7560000.0"/> > > > > It states that the layer is in the same CRS as your request (EPSG:3067). > > Now I want to re-project the ortho photos using EPSG:3857 and adapted the > query. > It should return this tile as aerial map: > http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/16/37421/17057.png > > > http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=25.559692382812,64.993295416111,25.565185546875,64.995617409235&srs=EPSG:3857&format=image%2Fpng&width=256&height=256&bgcolor=0xFF8000&transparent=false > > The bbox is in decimal degrees of lon/lat and inside the range of the > layer. > But unfortunately the re-projection seems not to work as the result image > is empty. > > I haven't tried this yet for the elevation and building data, but there > might be a similar problem. > > Do you have an idea, where this issue comes from? > Is it possibly an issue of the geoserver instance? > > Thanks in advance! > > Best, > Stefan > > > On 02.09.2014 07:30, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote: > > Torsten, > > We will take a look at the buildings, I think we manage to import them. > Those will be silhouettes so they have to be extruded on the client side. > > Just to clarify, is this the place where we should pull the buildings for? > > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2637405,11.6704774,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US > > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Torsten Spieldenner < > torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I talked to Stefan again, and the most important part seems to be only >> the building data, thus, the points from which the extruded buildings could >> be generated. As for elevation, also the satellite data does not need to be >> considered at this point. So if the GIS-provider could provide this >> building data fur TU Campus in Munich in a format that allows to create >> extruded buildings in XML3D representation - or even the extruded buildings >> directly - , this would be awesome. >> >> ~ Torsten >> >> Am 8/28/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >> >> Hello, >> >> We dug this a little bit more. >> >> Elevation is available from SRTM set, but with 90m grid resolution. So it >> would be very poor. Like you said, we can replace the elevation with >> zeroes, hence producing artificial flat terrain. >> >> There are no buildings available as far as we know. Some could be >> retrieved for testing from Open streetmap, but that requires some >> programming and will not be a single day task. We may look at this approach >> as well, though. >> >> Aerial images are available some instance in Germany, I guess it is >> similar to Finnish geographical institute, but they say in their web page >> we'd need to contact "Dienstleistungszentrum" before receiving the >> material. < >> http://www.bkg.bund.de/nn_159816/EN/FederalOffice/Products/Geo-Data/Geo__Data__node.html__nnn=true >> > >> >> So, in summary: if you can point us to data in Germany, we'd be able to >> go forward faster. Entschuldigen sie bitte aber wir sprechen nicht Deutsch. >> :) >> >> - jarkko >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < >> torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> actually, elevation data is not important. We are currently planning >>> flat ground tiles as also shown in the example. The building data should >>> publicly available from Bing Maps, same for nice satellite images. >>> >>> @Stefan: Feel free to clarify this further if I am talking non-sense >>> here ;) >>> >>> Also the region of TU Munich, where ECFI will take place, would be >>> sufficient. >>> >>> Best, >>> Torsten >>> >>> Am 8/27/2014 8:47 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Regarding for the German data I think that could be pulled from the >>> SRTM data set. The elevation there is with 30m grid spacing, so it is not >>> the most accurate data but at least it is free. Aerial images are uncertain >>> whether they are available, and the same applies to the building >>> information. >>> >>> In Finland our geographical institute provides the data for free, but >>> do you have any information are the similar instances in Germany? That >>> would help a lot. >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < >>> torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that uses >>>> Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, like GIS Data Provider and >>>> possibly POI. >>>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be explored by >>>> users that are represented by avatars. I've uploaded a demonstration how >>>> this may look like to the Testbed: >>>> >>>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >>>> >>>> The demo looks like this: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the password field for >>>> login. The demo may run a bit laggy when accessed from the testbed, but >>>> runs perfectly fine when installed on local servers. >>>> >>>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland University with no >>>> building data. >>>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we could have data >>>> of Munich, together with building data, available. >>>> >>>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider instance that >>>> serves Munich, or even all of Germany, with building data of Munich campus >>>> for the ECFI demo? Stefan may be able to give more information which data >>>> is exactly needed. >>>> >>>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs located on the >>>> campus area that is then visualized within the 3D representation. Would it >>>> be possible to provide a POI Data Provider instance with a set POI together >>>> with an XML3D visualization for the area of the campus? >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>>> Torsten >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>>> >>>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>>> >>>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>>> >>>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>>> >>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>>> >>>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> CTO >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> See our new press release: >>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >>> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without >>> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> CTO >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> See our new press release: >> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without >> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> >> -- >> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >> >> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >> >> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > > -- > Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > CTO > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > mobile. +358 405245142 > email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com > > See our new press release: > http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without > producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > > -- > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t > Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 > 66123 Saarbr?cken > > Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Stra?e 122 > D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 > Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ > ******************************************************** > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Stefan Lemme > > DFKI GmbH > Agents and Simulated Reality > Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 > D-66123 Saarbruecken > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 > Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web > ******************************************************** > German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Management Board: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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For additional links and details from last weeks please go to the above document. 1. Fixed missing part in OpenSpec public wiki Details part of the OpenSpecs, which links to the Open API page, was missing in the public wiki. The API pages itself where there linked from the ?Summary of FI-WARE API Open Specifications? page. This is fixed now. 2. FIWARE @ ECFI Munich (Sept 17./18.) Currently we have now one demo from Torsten (DFKI). See description here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10z4Btr_NAHQ8lKyz9qiDEV6JRB714hhR-ZA5pfw9HC8/edit?usp=sharing It would be great to also have a demo for WebTundra and some additonal GEis and it is still possible to bring in another demo this week. ECFI is an important event for FIWARE to kick-off phase 3 of the FI-PPP and many representatives of accelerators will be there. Registraton to ECFI is extended to Sept. 10. Please let me know, if you attend. AP [Torsten]: Please let me know who will give the demo. AP [All]: Please let me know, who of you attends ECFI. 3. Catalogue Entries WP13-Catalogue-Dashboard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=26 Please update the status of your catalogue entries to the above dashboard. I can not see the entries until they are published and therefore have no chance to get the current status otherwise. Miguel sent an email last Friday with some instructions. The mail contained an important wiki-page, which shows all the components required to be present on FI-Lab. http://wiki.fi-ware.org/Procedure_to_publish_FI-WARE_software Important: According to this graphic, we need a cookbook/blueprint AND a VM image to get the approval for the catalogue. So please as soon you have the cookbook also create a VM (using the cookbook) and create an image of it. Please interact directly with the representative peoples to complete and fix the catalogue, cookbook and blueprints: Catalogue support * fiware-catalogue at lists.fi-ware.org * Pedro Rodriguez > (please CC Dalle Carbonare Davide >) * If it is really urgent and Pedro is on holidays, sometimes ?lvaro (aalonsog at dit.upm.es) can help. But please do not CC him by default, this person is always overloaded and very busy. This is theoretically not his work. As soon all the required components are there, the entry has to be approved by Stefano De Panfilis (stefano.depanfilis at eng.it) 4. Packaging (Cookbooks/Blueprints & images for FI-LAB) WP13 Status Dashboard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=25 I can see the following GEis in the SVN: * 3D-UI * xml3d/ * webtundra/ * gis_ge/ * poi_dp/ * 2D_3D-Capture/ * augmentedreality/ * Middleware * kiara/ * rpcdds/ Still many missing. What is the current status? AP [All]: Please update the status to the above dashboard. Please interact directly with the representative people to complete and fix the catalogue, cookbook and blueprints: * Henar (henar.munozfrutos at telefonica.com) * Creation of Recipes, images, blueprints. * Publication on FI-Lab Because I am traveling all week, my availability is limited. I will read and response to emails in the evening or early morning. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Wed Sep 3 11:39:20 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:39:20 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Weekly meeting In-Reply-To: <05AA452E-2AA5-4D13-8C8D-9D8CB905AEFA@zhaw.ch> References: <05AA452E-2AA5-4D13-8C8D-9D8CB905AEFA@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: Thanks again Christof. Just a quick note: I'll be there for demos. The oulu3dlive service and other realXtend &/ WP 13 things. Will send more info a bit later. 3.9.2014 8.43 kirjoitti "Marti Christof (mach)" : > Hi everybody > > *Because my travel plans changed short term this morning, I can not host > todays weekly meeting (sorry for short notice).* > > I already prepared an agenda/minutes for the meeting, which contains the > most important topics for this week: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFTzIcLu-869ND90OSuA8aJ77yIi3_pIYR6claSq2_k/edit > > I copied the summary of the topics to this email. For additional links > and details from last weeks please go to the above document. > > 1. Fixed missing part in OpenSpec public wiki > Details part of the OpenSpecs, which links to the Open API page, was > missing in the public wiki. The API pages itself where there linked from > the ?Summary of FI-WARE API Open Specifications? page. This is fixed now. > > > *2. FIWARE @ ECFI Munich (Sept 17./18.)* > > Currently we have now one demo from Torsten (DFKI). See description here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/10z4Btr_NAHQ8lKyz9qiDEV6JRB714hhR-ZA5pfw9HC8/edit?usp=sharing > > It would be great to also have a demo for WebTundra and some additonal > GEis and it is still possible to bring in another demo this week. > ECFI is an important event for FIWARE to kick-off phase 3 of the FI-PPP > and many representatives of accelerators will be there. > Registraton to ECFI is extended to Sept. 10. Please let me know, if you > attend. > > *AP** [Torsten]*: Please let me know who will give the demo. *AP [All]*: > Please let me know, who of you attends ECFI. > > *3. Catalogue Entries* > WP13-Catalogue-Dashboard: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=26 > > Please update the status of your catalogue entries to the above dashboard. > I can not see the entries until they are published and therefore have no > chance to get the current status otherwise. > > Miguel sent an email last Friday with some instructions. > The mail contained an important wiki-page, which shows all the components > required to be present on FI-Lab. > http://wiki.fi-ware.org/Procedure_to_publish_FI-WARE_software > Important: According to this graphic, we need a cookbook/blueprint AND a > VM image to get the approval for the catalogue. So please as soon you > have the cookbook also create a VM (using the cookbook) and create an image > of it. > > Please interact directly with the representative peoples to complete and > fix the catalogue, cookbook and blueprints: > *Catalogue support* > > - fiware-catalogue at lists.fi-ware.org > - Pedro Rodriguez (please CC Dalle Carbonare > Davide ) > - If it is really urgent and Pedro is on holidays, sometimes ?lvaro ( > aalonsog at dit.upm.es) can help. But please do not CC him by default, > this person is always overloaded and very busy. This is theoretically not > his work. > > As soon all the required components are there, the entry has to be > approved by Stefano De Panfilis (stefano.depanfilis at eng.it) > > > *4. Packaging (Cookbooks/Blueprints & images for FI-LAB)* > > *WP13 Status Dashboard*: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auieh_fs3EUxdFVvY19ab1lFRDRUaTBrUXlpYzBVRlE&usp=docslist_api#gid=25 > > I can see the following GEis in the SVN: > > - 3D-UI > - xml3d/ > > - webtundra/ > > - gis_ge/ > > - poi_dp/ > > - 2D_3D-Capture/ > > - augmentedreality/ > > - Middleware > - kiara/ > > - rpcdds/ > > > > Still many missing. What is the current status? > AP [All]: Please update the status to the above dashboard. > > Please interact directly with the representative people to complete and > fix the catalogue, cookbook and blueprints: > > - Henar (henar.munozfrutos at telefonica.com) > - Creation of Recipes, images, blueprints. > - Publication on FI-Lab > > > > > Because I am traveling all week, my availability is limited. 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URL: From juha.hyvarinen at cyberlightning.com Wed Sep 3 15:27:55 2014 From: juha.hyvarinen at cyberlightning.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juha_Hyv=C3=A4rinen?=) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:27:55 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] DFKI ECFI Demo In-Reply-To: References: <53FC4F1B.4020706@dfki.de> <53FEF21A.8030500@dfki.de> <540025D1.1090808@dfki.de> <5405B026.1050708@dfki.de> <5405B4FC.6020706@dfki.de> Message-ID: Hi, Building polygons extracted from OpenStreetMap are now also available to Munich campus region. Sample request: http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:OSM_polygons&styles=&bbox=11.6405172348022,48.2498054504395,11.6966161727905,48.2694778442383&width=941&height=330&srs=EPSG:4326&format=image%2Fjpeg On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Juha Hyv?rinen < juha.hyvarinen at cyberlightning.com> wrote: > Hi, > > How did you solve that problem? I just changed some reprojection > parameters at the server side and when we change srs from your request to > EPSG:4326 it works but not with the original one. Image reprojections are > bit problematic with Geoserver and I'm not sure why it's not working with > all supported srs values. > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Stefan Lemme wrote: > >> >> Ok, solved! >> >> >> >> Let's go for elevation and building data ... >> >> Best, >> Stefan >> >> >> >> On 9/2/2014 1:55 PM, Stefan Lemme wrote: >> >> >> Hi Jarkko, >> >> I'm currently playing with the GIS-DP and started with your sample query >> for aerial imaging. >> >> >> http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=427481,7210400,428200,7211000&width=512&height=512&srs=EPSG:3067&format=image%2Fjpeg >> >> I received the following layer information from geoserver using the >> GetCapabilities request: >> >> >> terrain_texture_orto >> terrain_texture_orto >> >> >> WCS >> ImageMosaic >> orto >> >> EPSG:3067 >> >> > miny="64.88964457393377" maxx="26.44560661674329" maxy="68.21055274289459"/> >> > maxx="434000.0" maxy="7560000.0"/> >> >> >> >> It states that the layer is in the same CRS as your request (EPSG:3067). >> >> Now I want to re-project the ortho photos using EPSG:3857 and adapted the >> query. >> It should return this tile as aerial map: >> http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/16/37421/17057.png >> >> >> http://130.206.80.182:8080/geoserver/fiware/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.0&request=GetMap&layers=fiware:terrain_texture_orto&styles=&bbox=25.559692382812,64.993295416111,25.565185546875,64.995617409235&srs=EPSG:3857&format=image%2Fpng&width=256&height=256&bgcolor=0xFF8000&transparent=false >> >> The bbox is in decimal degrees of lon/lat and inside the range of the >> layer. >> But unfortunately the re-projection seems not to work as the result image >> is empty. >> >> I haven't tried this yet for the elevation and building data, but there >> might be a similar problem. >> >> Do you have an idea, where this issue comes from? >> Is it possibly an issue of the geoserver instance? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Best, >> Stefan >> >> >> On 02.09.2014 07:30, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote: >> >> Torsten, >> >> We will take a look at the buildings, I think we manage to import them. >> Those will be silhouettes so they have to be extruded on the client side. >> >> Just to clarify, is this the place where we should pull the buildings >> for? >> >> >> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2637405,11.6704774,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Torsten Spieldenner < >> torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I talked to Stefan again, and the most important part seems to be only >>> the building data, thus, the points from which the extruded buildings could >>> be generated. As for elevation, also the satellite data does not need to be >>> considered at this point. So if the GIS-provider could provide this >>> building data fur TU Campus in Munich in a format that allows to create >>> extruded buildings in XML3D representation - or even the extruded buildings >>> directly - , this would be awesome. >>> >>> ~ Torsten >>> >>> Am 8/28/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> We dug this a little bit more. >>> >>> Elevation is available from SRTM set, but with 90m grid resolution. So >>> it would be very poor. Like you said, we can replace the elevation with >>> zeroes, hence producing artificial flat terrain. >>> >>> There are no buildings available as far as we know. Some could be >>> retrieved for testing from Open streetmap, but that requires some >>> programming and will not be a single day task. We may look at this approach >>> as well, though. >>> >>> Aerial images are available some instance in Germany, I guess it is >>> similar to Finnish geographical institute, but they say in their web page >>> we'd need to contact "Dienstleistungszentrum" before receiving the >>> material. < >>> http://www.bkg.bund.de/nn_159816/EN/FederalOffice/Products/Geo-Data/Geo__Data__node.html__nnn=true >>> > >>> >>> So, in summary: if you can point us to data in Germany, we'd be able to >>> go forward faster. Entschuldigen sie bitte aber wir sprechen nicht Deutsch. >>> :) >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < >>> torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> actually, elevation data is not important. We are currently planning >>>> flat ground tiles as also shown in the example. The building data should >>>> publicly available from Bing Maps, same for nice satellite images. >>>> >>>> @Stefan: Feel free to clarify this further if I am talking non-sense >>>> here ;) >>>> >>>> Also the region of TU Munich, where ECFI will take place, would be >>>> sufficient. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Torsten >>>> >>>> Am 8/27/2014 8:47 AM, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Regarding for the German data I think that could be pulled from the >>>> SRTM data set. The elevation there is with 30m grid spacing, so it is not >>>> the most accurate data but at least it is free. Aerial images are uncertain >>>> whether they are available, and the same applies to the building >>>> information. >>>> >>>> In Finland our geographical institute provides the data for free, but >>>> do you have any information are the similar instances in Germany? That >>>> would help a lot. >>>> >>>> - jarkko >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < >>>> torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that uses >>>>> Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, like GIS Data Provider and >>>>> possibly POI. >>>>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be explored by >>>>> users that are represented by avatars. I've uploaded a demonstration how >>>>> this may look like to the Testbed: >>>>> >>>>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >>>>> >>>>> The demo looks like this: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the password field for >>>>> login. The demo may run a bit laggy when accessed from the testbed, but >>>>> runs perfectly fine when installed on local servers. >>>>> >>>>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland University with no >>>>> building data. >>>>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we could have data >>>>> of Munich, together with building data, available. >>>>> >>>>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider instance that >>>>> serves Munich, or even all of Germany, with building data of Munich campus >>>>> for the ECFI demo? Stefan may be able to give more information which data >>>>> is exactly needed. >>>>> >>>>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs located on the >>>>> campus area that is then visualized within the 3D representation. Would it >>>>> be possible to provide a POI Data Provider instance with a set POI together >>>>> with an XML3D visualization for the area of the campus? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>>>> Torsten >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>>>> >>>>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>>>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>>>> >>>>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>>>> >>>>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>>>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>>>> >>>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>>>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>>>> >>>>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>>> CTO >>>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>>> >>>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>>> >>>> See our new press release: >>>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>>> >>>> www.cyberlightning.com >>>> >>>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may >>>> contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended >>>> recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system >>>> without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>>> >>>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>>> >>>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>>> >>>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>>> >>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>>> >>>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >>> CTO >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> mobile. +358 405245142 >>> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >>> >>> See our new press release: >>> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >>> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without >>> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> CTO >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> mobile. +358 405245142 >> email. jarkko at cyberlightning.com >> >> See our new press release: >> http://cyberlightning.com/blog/2014/05/13/cyberlightning-brings-3d-visualization-to-industrial-internet-of-things/ >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without >> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> -- >> ******************************************************** >> Stefan Lemme >> >> DFKI GmbH >> Agenten und Simulierte Realit?t >> Campus, Geb. D 3 4, Raum 0.75 >> 66123 Saarbr?cken >> >> Tel.: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 >> Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235http://www.dfki.de/web >> ******************************************************** >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Stra?e 122 >> D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973 >> Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/ >> ******************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> ******************************************************** >> Stefan Lemme >> >> DFKI GmbH >> Agents and Simulated Reality >> Campus, Build. D 3 4, room 0.75 >> D-66123 Saarbruecken >> Germany >> >> Phone: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 5391 >> Fax: +49 (0) 681 / 85775 ? 2235 http://www.dfki.de/web >> ******************************************************** >> German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Management Board: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Chairman) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Chairman of the Supervisory Board: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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In-Reply-To: <20140904121839.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> References: <20140904121839.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <54085918.1030607@cie.fi> This has worked for me in the testbed: https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V2_Operation_Cockpit#Creating_an_image_from_your_GE -Arto On 4.9.2014 15:18, Erno Kuusela wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone found out how to make the vm images? Snapshots seem > to work but no obvious way to turn them into images. > > Erno > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi From erno at playsign.net Thu Sep 4 14:41:29 2014 From: erno at playsign.net (Erno Kuusela) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 15:41:29 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] VM image instructions? In-Reply-To: <54085918.1030607@cie.fi> References: <20140904121839.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> <54085918.1030607@cie.fi> Message-ID: <20140904124129.GQ8543@ee.oulu.fi> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:20:40PM +0300, Arto Heikkinen wrote: | This has worked for me in the testbed: | https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V2_Operation_Cockpit#Creating_an_image_from_your_GE Thanks, logical place. Looks like I had it in the public image list already but the list scrolling doesn't work all the way down with scroll wheel, found it now :) From arto.heikkinen at cie.fi Thu Sep 4 14:43:21 2014 From: arto.heikkinen at cie.fi (Arto Heikkinen) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:43:21 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] VM image instructions? In-Reply-To: <20140904124129.GQ8543@ee.oulu.fi> References: <20140904121839.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> <54085918.1030607@cie.fi> <20140904124129.GQ8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <54085E69.3020904@cie.fi> Yep, I have also "lost" images a few times due to the scrolling-to-the-bottom problem in the image list. :) -Arto On 4.9.2014 15:41, Erno Kuusela wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 03:20:40PM +0300, Arto Heikkinen wrote: > | This has worked for me in the testbed: > | https://forge.fi-ware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/testbed/index.php/Testbed_V2_Operation_Cockpit#Creating_an_image_from_your_GE > > Thanks, logical place. > Looks like I had it in the public image list already but the list > scrolling doesn't work all the way down with scroll wheel, found it now :) From toni at playsign.net Thu Sep 4 15:02:50 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 16:02:50 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] realXtend ECFI demo Message-ID: Thanks for the demo infos folks, am looking forward to seeing these things both together and what we will then figure out to do next. Seems great to me so far. Also what we talked with Jarkko and others about GIS etc. Posting to a separate thread to not steal the other, here's a link to some info I put up in a similar vain about what we've planned to demo: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FHmhZaDjCj2INHD4wTzypEikz0EaZr9NpW-QjiHCueY/edit# also pasting the doc below for convenience: ---cut--- Here in Oulu, I?m preparing to present MiWi demos according to the plan we?ve had throughout the year and what we?ve collaborated / coordinated with DFKI as well: likewise an integrated demo with a city model / service. The live city service is available publicly on-line in alpha testing phase for entering to normal production use by late this year / early next year: oulu3dlive alpha - http://beta.adminotech.com/virtuaalioulu/ The service is built on realXtend's Open Source technologies and hence utilizes several MiWi GEs: 3D-UI, Synchronization, Virtual Characters, Interface Designer, 2D-UI. POI, GIS and Real-Virtual Interaction can be used and we have tested integration with POI. We are planning integrating with GIS and Real-Virtual Interaction as well (which are now featured in the DFKI demo). Regarding 3D-UI / graphics rendering, the externally available Creative Commons licensed Oulu3DLive city model is used as an example of hand-modelled detailed geometry and textures. ?Hello World? of multiplayer 3d apps: Pong - As a programming example, WebTundra Pong is a minimal game made with the SDK. It is described in detail in the User Manual Live demo server for multi-user play is now tested on the fi-ware testbed: http://130.206.81.111/pong/Pong.html For graphics effects we refer to the underlying three.js rendering library -- there is a gallery and examples on threejs.org. ---end--- ~Toni From toni at playsign.net Sun Sep 7 11:30:53 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 12:30:53 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Agenda for WP13 (now WP1.5) Meetings at Kickoff In-Reply-To: <54056534.30903@dfki.de> References: <5223bc9fe02249919190d981a5fdbd6f@DB4PR06MB489.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> <54056534.30903@dfki.de> Message-ID: Thanks Philipp for setting those up back then! The basic agenda seems good to me. We had a meeting with some of the Oulu fi-core folks during the week and it seemed that basics / main points for the work that's important for us are in the DoW (Jarkko noted that several times in the talks). There sure are many things to discuss .. asset formats, protocols, different integrations, good optimizations to do next etc. as you know, what we always talk about :) . Certainly good to think of relevant issues and how to organize work on them etc. And ok, we'll think now from the outreach / phase3 pov .. should be quite clear once get the head around it, i mean because an important part of realxtend activities also earlier has been to get adoption, make videos, organize courses, get pilots going etc. Now that happens in normal business already somewhat ok (also non-reX-core companies, but application companies like eVocons with UKI architects use in normal biz hospital planning etc.) and is sure interesting to see how we get things going with use case projects from elsewhere. And indeed to think how we should make things good for devs using the libs, there are many possibilities for improvements on all fronts I think, but also questions how the already good current things would be good to present and explain and doc etc. ~Toni On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi all, > > Below you find the current allocation of time for our WP1.5 sessions (2x > 4h). I actually have no idea what we should do in this long time frame > and would expect us to use more like 2x 2-3h, see agenda at the link > below, we can extend it if we expect to need more time). > > So please let me know if there are specific topics that you would like > to discuss for FI-Core. Remember that the focus in this project is on > support for Phase-3 partners. > > A first draft of our agenda is now at > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARSL4SG1APBYcvLC_o3Blz2UWv3N_MC_m7rgkT8DeFQ/edit#gid=76347424 > > From my perspective after a general startup and review of what we plan > to be doing, we should focus in the first part on how we would like to > interact with the IoT, the Media, the App, and the Robotics/Middleware > groups in FI-CORE, which seem to be the ones most relevant for us. This > will also help us having a meaningful discussion in the joint sessions, > which will take place between the first and the second time slot for our WP. > > I have set up a few joint session with those other groups already so we > can first discuss this briefly internally, then go into the discussion > with the other groups, and finally have a review and possible decisions > intenally again. > > For more info on the Kickoff please see the (master) document at: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jdKXMES-b4Vp3jb8612qn53psXzmyygP8yqAFmR2EJo/edit#gid=1273878550 > > > Best, > > Philipp > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: [Ficore-kick-off] Proposed WPs Time Slots (Sessions) and > Progressing on Agendas - request for action > Datum: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:33:28 +0000 > Von: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE > An: ficore-kick-off at tid.es > > Dear Work Package Leaders, > > Please, access the link below to outline your WP's agenda. > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARSL4SG1APBYcvLC_o3Blz2UWv3N_MC_m7rgkT8DeFQ/edit#gid=1429886323 > > Time slots: First proposal: > WP 1.4 and WP 1.1 are running on Tuesday afternoon, in plenary sessions. > Stream 1 - From WP1.2 to WP1.8 are running in parallel Wednesday and > Thursday Morning. Their time slot is 8 hours, 4 hours each day. > WP2.1, WP2.2, WP3.1, WP3.2 and WP3.3 are running in parallel Wednesday > and Thursday Afternoon. Their time slot is 6 hours, 3 hours each day. > WP 4.2 - 2 hours in plenary session, Friday morning, last day > > Cross Session, they are pending of allocation. > > Request: > I need WP Leaders to assess the initial time slots are fine for you, or > you wish to make them shorter (o... larger). > Once WP session length are estimated, please, update the agendas "Time > Slots" fields so that I can propose time slots for Cross work package > sessions. > Please, WP Leaders, you can state/propose topics for your Work Package. > I assume on Tuesday Morning you'll be reviewing them with Juanjo during > the WPL/WPA Work Session. > > Let me refresh that I plan to update the number of attendees, and > allocate concrete room numbers depending on your input on the Attendee > List (column E) in the link below read this afternoon at 16:00 CET as > informed this morning. > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jdKXMES-b4Vp3jb8612qn53psXzmyygP8yqAFmR2EJo/edit#gid=1953510570 > > Thanks for cooperation!! > > Kind regards, > Manuel > > > > ---------------------------- > Manuel Escriche Vicente > Agile Project Manager/Leader > FI-WARE Initiative > Telef?nica Digital > Parque Tecnol?gico > C/ Abraham Zacuto, 10 > 47151 - Boecillo > Valladolid - Spain > Tfno: +34.91.312.99.72 > Fax: +34.983.36.75.64 > http://www.tid.es > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > From torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de Mon Sep 8 14:44:17 2014 From: torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de (Torsten Spieldenner) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:44:17 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] DFKI ECFI Demo In-Reply-To: <1e2bde70df5cece18d0c48018e289b42@mailserver8.nebula.fi> References: <53FC4F1B.4020706@dfki.de> <1e2bde70df5cece18d0c48018e289b42@mailserver8.nebula.fi> Message-ID: <540DA4A1.8070809@dfki.de> Hello, we are proceeding with the ECFI-Demo, and we could start to add integration of POI provider now. For the moment, it would be sufficient to just have some POI data available that we can query to check the integration. Providing XML3D data would then be one of the next steps. For the covered region, we are currently considering Munich and surroundings. In particular, campus of TU munich, approximately this area: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2648547,11.6703057,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US @Ari & Team: Could you maybe setup a POI Data Provider Instance that covers that region, maybe accessible in the testbed? @Stefan: Such a first POI server would be sufficient for now, right? Best Regards, Torsten Am 8/26/2014 12:50 PM, schrieb Ari Okkonen CIE: > Hi > > It is relatively easy to set up a POI server having Munich area POIs > from OpenStreetMap. > Currently we do not have any automated means to provide XML3D data > to POIs. Provided there is XML3D data it can be linked to POIs > manually or somebody has to write some code. > > BR > Ari > > > On 2014-08-26 12:10, Torsten Spieldenner wrote: >> Hello, >> >> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that uses >> Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, like GIS Data Provider >> and possibly POI. >> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be explored by >> users that are represented by avatars. I've uploaded a demonstration >> how this may look like to the Testbed: >> >> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml [2] >> >> The demo looks like this: >> >> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the password field >> for login. The demo may run a bit laggy when accessed from the >> testbed, but runs perfectly fine when installed on local servers. >> >> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland University with no >> building data. >> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we could have data >> of Munich, together with building data, available. >> >> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider instance that >> serves Munich, or even all of Germany, with building data of Munich >> campus for the ECFI demo? Stefan may be able to give more information >> which data is exactly needed. >> >> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs located on the >> campus area that is then visualized within the 3D representation. >> Would it be possible to provide a POI Data Provider instance with a >> set POI together with an XML3D visualization for the area of the >> campus? >> >> Thanks a lot and best regards, >> Torsten >> >> -- >> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >> >> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >> >> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ [1] >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >> >> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >> [2] http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml > -- Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ------------------------------------------------------------- From mach at zhaw.ch Tue Sep 9 16:23:45 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:23:45 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Cancel weekly meeting Message-ID: <621BE82B-79EC-460D-A1E8-B747D95796ED@zhaw.ch> Hi Because many of the participants are in the FI-Core Kickoff meeting this week, I cancel the MIWI call of tomorrow morning. Important topics can be handled by email or on site here in Madrid. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Tue Sep 9 16:38:57 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:38:57 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] DFKI ECFI Demo In-Reply-To: <540DA4A1.8070809@dfki.de> References: <53FC4F1B.4020706@dfki.de> <1e2bde70df5cece18d0c48018e289b42@mailserver8.nebula.fi> <540DA4A1.8070809@dfki.de> Message-ID: <540F1101.6070403@cie.fi> Hi, You can start with our current test POI data provider with Finnish and Hanover with surroundings POI data: "http://dev.cie.fi/FI-WARE/poi_dp/". I try to arrange importing Munich and surroundings to that database. BR Ari On 2014-09-08 15:44, Torsten Spieldenner wrote: > Hello, > > we are proceeding with the ECFI-Demo, and we could start to add > integration of POI provider now. > For the moment, it would be sufficient to just have some POI data > available that we can query to check the integration. Providing XML3D > data would then be one of the next steps. > > For the covered region, we are currently considering Munich and > surroundings. In particular, campus of TU munich, approximately this > area: > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boltzmannstra%C3%9Fe+15,+Technical+University+Munich,+85748+Garching,+Germany/@48.2648547,11.6703057,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x479e7292d2090f9f:0x3755d4a5234e821b?hl=en-US > > > > @Ari & Team: Could you maybe setup a POI Data Provider Instance that > covers that region, maybe accessible in the testbed? > > @Stefan: Such a first POI server would be sufficient for now, right? > > Best Regards, > Torsten > > Am 8/26/2014 12:50 PM, schrieb Ari Okkonen CIE: >> Hi >> >> It is relatively easy to set up a POI server having Munich area POIs >> from OpenStreetMap. >> Currently we do not have any automated means to provide XML3D data >> to POIs. Provided there is XML3D data it can be linked to POIs >> manually or somebody has to write some code. >> >> BR >> Ari >> >> >> On 2014-08-26 12:10, Torsten Spieldenner wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> we at DFKI are planning an integrated demo for ECFI that uses >>> Synchronization and 3D-UI-XML3D among other GE, like GIS Data Provider >>> and possibly POI. >>> The idea is to provide a virtual campus map that can be explored by >>> users that are represented by avatars. I've uploaded a demonstration >>> how this may look like to the Testbed: >>> >>> http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml [2] >>> >>> The demo looks like this: >>> >>> You may enter any arbitrary username and ignore the password field >>> for login. The demo may run a bit laggy when accessed from the >>> testbed, but runs perfectly fine when installed on local servers. >>> >>> The testbed version uses the campus of Saarland University with no >>> building data. >>> As ECFI is located in Munich, it would be great if we could have data >>> of Munich, together with building data, available. >>> >>> @Jarkko: Is it possible to set up a GIS Data Provider instance that >>> serves Munich, or even all of Germany, with building data of Munich >>> campus for the ECFI demo? Stefan may be able to give more information >>> which data is exactly needed. >>> >>> @Ari: We are also thinking about adding a set of POIs located on the >>> campus area that is then visualized within the 3D representation. >>> Would it be possible to provide a POI Data Provider instance with a >>> set POI together with an XML3D visualization for the area of the >>> campus? >>> >>> Thanks a lot and best regards, >>> Torsten >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ [1] >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> [2] http://130.206.80.161/fives-client/client.xhtml >> > > -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu From jonne at adminotech.com Fri Sep 12 13:51:59 2014 From: jonne at adminotech.com (Jonne Nauha) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:51:59 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Meshmoon Web Rocket update + Unity plugin Message-ID: Hi, Thought it might be good to update people on our latest Web Rocket 1.1 release. This is after all a actual product we are shipping that is FIWARE GE based (actually has multiple GEs in it, and more on our servers). Recently we decided to start working on a Meshmoon Unity exporter/plugin. This is a C# addon to Unity that lets you export your scenes to Meshmoon formats with a single click. You can find more info from here doc.meshmoon.com/index.html?page=unity-plugin. We will be releasing the 1.0 shortly, but you can already download and use the RCs from that page. We have also been working on rendering improvements in our web browser client Web Rocket, as this is going to enable us to render more complex Meshmoon scenes one to one, the release is called 1.1. There are other big improvements that we will be doing soon after, some of them will be merged from Ludocrafts excellent work on the FIWARE MIWI Synchronization GE. This includes network/protocol level and framework support for CustomComponents and Entity level parenting. We rolled out Entity parenting to our server last week, so next its time to update WebRocket to support this feature. The result of this work is that we can now run Unity scenes in the web browser with FIWARE based technology stack :) Of course we cannot export your game logic automatically (Unity C#/JS), but we can absolutely export the game world geometry, materials and textures. Bringing those with a single drag and drop to a multi-user networked Meshmooon space that has both native desktop and web client support. Here some screenshots - http://download.meshmoon.com/press/screenshots/webrocket-robot-lab.png - http://download.meshmoon.com/press/screenshots/webrocket-angry-bots.png - http://download.meshmoon.com/press/screenshots/webrocket-christmas-canvas.png You can try out the robot lab yourself here http://www.meshmoon.com/webrocket/unity3d Its a public portal that requires no authentication, you can just hit the Connect button to give it a try. Best regards, Jonne Nauha Meshmoon developer at Adminotech Ltd. www.meshmoon.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Tue Sep 16 10:01:35 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:01:35 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] MiWi realXtend & DFKI tracks and consolidation Message-ID: Hi Juanjo, others - I promised to drop Juanjo a note about this in case we'll have a chance to talk at ECFI (am just arriving to Munich now). This is based on the discussions we had last week during the Madrid FI-CORE kickoff with Philipp, Tiina (Adminotech) and Sami (Cyberlightning): During the kickoff week, we discussed internally the consolidation and overall the situation with the alternative GEis from the MiWi chapter, now continued in the new WebUI chapter. Here are some notes from those talks to inform about possibilities and to base possible further talks now. Background and status ============== At the heart of WebUI are the interconnected client & server core packages, with the UI & Scene APIs and the Synchronization GE for connectivity. In our proposal for the 2nd open call, we presented a plan to realize that whole based on the pre-existing Tundra SDK from the realXtend open source organization. That is now the realXtend family of WebUI implementations: Synchronization GE with Tundra server & protocol (in C++), WebTundra client for 2D & 3D UI (Javascript), Virtual Characters, Interface Designer (scene editor) GEs etc. As a new feature for FIWARE goals specifically, WebTundra includes support for declarative authoring by implementing the XML3D spec for scene descriptions which can be embedded in the HTML DOM. Alternatively, there's the DFKI family: XML3D.js for 3DUI, FiVES as the synchronization server (in C#) and a FiVES web client that integrates XML3D.js similarily as WebTundra integrates three.js. FiVES design is a clone of realXtend Tundra in the sense that it applies the same Entity-Component model and is similarily modular being composed from plugins which implement the different components (such as avatars). I believe FiVES began (also) independently of FIWARE. A key to the puzzle is that, as DFKI participates also in the Middleware work, FiVES uses (/will use?) KIARA for the networking whereas Tundra & WebTundra use the traditional kNet library and the Tundra protocol with the codes that we had already before FIWARE. GIS, POI, Real-Virtual Interaction and other supporting services which are used via HTTP / REST APIs can be easily used from both families, either from web clients or from the server side in either case depending on the need. They are basically orthogonal to this discussion. Dealing with the present: document the alternatives ================================= A main worry with the situation is clarity for outside developers: we should have a clear message that state everywhere about how we envision FI WebUI apps to be developed. In practice it can be be useful to have options -- the different technologies here all have benefits and drawbacks, fitting different needs. One way to deal with the situation would be to simply present the alternatives and their suitabilities clearly. We do this already in the WebTundra manual when describe it's suitability and refer to xml3d.js and direct use of three.js for other needs. Something like this: - making a multiuser app? * does the Tundra server seem useful? Perhaps using Meshmoon hosting? go with Tundra & WebTundra, especially if three.js seems suitable * prefer the FiVES server? xml3d.js seems suitable? go with FiVES server & webclient (supposing they're mature enough) - making a singleuser app? or just a model / scene view? * something simple where just want to add a tag to html doc, perhaps with a click handler, no complex js? xml3d.js can be nice * a complex app like a game, need a lot of special effects, perhaps physics, programming lots of custom functionality in js? three.js is the best choice, with the nice API, polished optimized implementations due to widespread commercial normal on-the-market use and tons of examples for everything This is not an absolutely perfect formulation but I think has truth in it as a basic rationale for choices -- a first draft to be improved of course. Organizing work on future development ========================= Besides presenting the current offering to application developers we need a clear plan for development activities. We are now planning to continue both tracks but with an eye for consolidation especially concerning integration with other FIWARE chapters, especially the KIARA Middleware. DFKI continues with the FiVES implementation to develop, test and proof KIARA's suitability for our use. We can then analyze possible switch of networking in Tundra & WebTundra to that base. At this point WebTundra and FiVES web client may become very similar and can possibly share code, for example the networking module and perhaps the abstract scene API which apps use to benefit from the automatic attribute synchronization. It may become even possible to merge WebTundra and FiVES web client altogether. They both have a model-view-controller architecture where the graphics rendering is interchangeable. There's already an experimental XML3D.js renderer using view to WebTundra so we could have a unified common client core codebase and still provide both xml3d.js and three.js renderers as alternatives. One way to merge would be to add a Kiara-using networking module to WebTundra, porting from the FiVES web client work. Regarding work on graphics, there is very little overlap with DFKI's graphics rendering research and development (for example the shade.js shader generator, BLAST asset format and the planned photorealistic rendering) -- simply because we don't do graphics rendering development for WebTundra on the realXtend side. Three.js is basically complete already for what it does and very actively maintained and further developed by others. We test and improve it as necessary but don't plan large efforts for new functionality. However, if DFKI's new technologies with the reference implementations in XML3D.js prove useful / necessary for realXtend applications, it may become topical to port e.g. shade.js or BLAST to work in three.js if we need to continue using that for other reasons. Possibilities with the renderer independent Scene API / Entity System =========================================== Notably much of realXtend application development is already renderer independent: instead of using a renderer scenegraph directly, we typically program using the entity system / scene api to benefit from the automated network synchronization. It is similar to the XML3D approach of manipulating the DOM (and we have a mapping between DOM and the EC / Scene). WebTundra has this API in the Scene module, and FiVES is getting a similar module as the implementation proceeds. On this high level, for simple applications, the underlying renderer is an implementation detail not visible when making simple application logic, such as adding / moving / removing objects in the 3d scene etc. A good strategy for further work may be to recognize this and emphasize the entity system / scene API as the core of the system and the entry point for developers. Deep down graphics programming is anyhow easily renderer specific but I think that's fine. An issue here is that there's no GE for this API. We have the specification linked from the Synchronization GE now. There is the Scene API EPIC, but it refers to the HTTP interface to the synchronization server and not this Javascript API that application developers in our cases typically use. I posted about this 'missing GE' issue to the MiWi list about a year ago, naming it the Entity System then. Perhaps this is the problem we should solve now? ~Toni From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Sep 17 05:08:52 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 03:08:52 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Cancel WP13 telco Message-ID: <4E16375F-19CA-4C36-A96A-357B2BEC6849@zhaw.ch> Hi Everybody I am on my way to ECFI in Munich. Therefore I have to cancel this weeks telco. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From mach at zhaw.ch Wed Sep 24 08:25:39 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:25:39 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Transfer FI-WARE (MIWI) to FI-Core (WebUI) Message-ID: Hi everybody Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. I was caught by a flu end of last week and am just starting to get up to speed again. Philipp and I are organizing the transfer from FI-WARE (MIWI) to FI-Core (WebUI). Therefore we plan a transfer meeting next week on Wednesday Oct 1st 09:00-10:00. Please reserve the date. Regarding the remaining (urgent) work in FI-WARE (deliverables, etc.), I will send an email with instructions this afternoon. At the moment I am still checking and updating the current status. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From toni at playsign.net Wed Sep 24 09:39:03 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:39:03 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-ge-owners] FILAB - monitoring deployment - updated report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: forwarding this just for info, i think a minor point regarding how we put info to the catalogue ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Date: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [Fiware-ge-owners] FILAB - monitoring deployment - updated report To: Toni Alatalo Cc: Erno Kuusela , Philipp Slusallek , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Hi Toni, Thanks for letting me know. Please, discuss it with your chapter's architect, Philipp, and Juanjo. They should be able to determine it. I'll update the report accordingly. Cheers, Manuel -----Original Message----- From: toni.alatalo at gmail.com [mailto:toni.alatalo at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Toni Alatalo Sent: lunes, 22 de septiembre de 2014 13:14 To: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Cc: Erno Kuusela Subject: Re: [Fiware-ge-owners] FILAB - monitoring deployment - updated report Hi Manuel - was checking the statuses and we'll create the VM for WebTundra next (now that have the recipe), One question: I see the note "instantiable or single global GEri - still to be determined". How should that be determined - I mean by whom an where and how, should we do it somehow? Many of our things are Javascript libraries to execute in the browser .. so clearly not a single global instance but to be instantiated multiple times that way. On the other hand, the same library can be used my many client applications .. I mean often Javascript libs are loaded from common places on the net, in that sense there can be a single global instance of it (a place on the web which hosts the lib). Cheers, ~Toni On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:27 PM, MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE wrote: > Dear Partners, > > > > Please, find below the link to the updated report for FILAB deployment > monitoring: > > https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/4848/FILAB.monitoring.dep > loyment.20140917.xlsx > > > > Please, take into account these tasks should have been achieved by the > end of August. > > Remarks: > > > > IoT: missing artefacts from IDAS and MRCoAP > > Data: missing artifacts from Cosmos, Kurento (blueprints) > > > > All WebUI appears scheduled for Q42014. Although progress done for > Augmented Reality and POI Server is very appreciated. 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Se n?o ? vossa senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destrui??o From erno at playsign.net Wed Sep 24 09:44:03 2014 From: erno at playsign.net (Erno Kuusela) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:44:03 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Startup weekend trip costs Message-ID: <20140924074403.GL8543@ee.oulu.fi> Hello, I heard the startup weekend travel costs are covered by fi-ware, does anyone know details on how this works? Erno From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Wed Sep 24 09:52:35 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:52:35 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Startup weekend trip costs In-Reply-To: <20140924074403.GL8543@ee.oulu.fi> References: <20140924074403.GL8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <54227843.4020207@dfki.de> Hi, That is correct. Please add your estimated costs at the bottom of the main spreadsheet that contains the planning for the events. There is a small table for that. My understanding is that each participant will simply claim the additional cost as part of the normal FI-WARE cost reporting but in addition to any funding that has already been assigned to each of us. The coordinator/EU will reimburse the sum as part of the next amendment that is in preparation already. So not immediate but hopefully soon. Best, Philipp Am 24.09.2014 um 09:44 schrieb Erno Kuusela: > Hello, > > I heard the startup weekend travel costs are covered by fi-ware, > does anyone know details on how this works? > > Erno > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Wed Sep 24 10:07:13 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:07:13 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting Message-ID: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> Hi all, Just saw that the document with the minutes was not yet shared with all of you. It now is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d8E4fstDZgP01OT5kXxmxa5KcVc5lWaA6zMfc_52pwg/edit?usp=sharing Please update your attendance, a short statement of where you are with your preparation, and anything else that I might have missed during the meeting :-). Again the main link to the startup preparation is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1MgeqYN69h7pTCjyZ4NVNcMgI5xBiGu5LIpzKet_q0/edit#gid=0 I have sent mail to Manuel and others to get contact info for each of the events. Please also add your travel cost estimations to that document. Thanks a lot, Philipp -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: philipp_slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From erno at playsign.net Wed Sep 24 13:29:40 2014 From: erno at playsign.net (Erno Kuusela) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:29:40 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Weekend coaching vs presence? Message-ID: <20140924112940.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> Hello, I asked about the weekend in the telco, but I may have misunderstood... Let's try again in writing: So the idea is that for the coaching there is a hangout where people can ask about all our GEs and there should be people on call during the weekend to answer those. Does this mean that we (on site attendees of the startup weekend) stay there over the weekend to proxy this information to the locals, or do we just supply a remote hangout over the weekend? Erno From toni at playsign.net Wed Sep 24 13:53:52 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:53:52 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Weekend coaching vs presence? In-Reply-To: <20140924112940.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> References: <20140924112940.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: IIRC what Tiina (or someone) said in the meet was that as the weekends are simultaneous the idea is to have hangouts (also) between the different cities. That way we can cover all GEs as people from ~all the techs are available. I'm sure we can help with that from offices/homes etc. too if needed -- that's what I was originally thinking when hadn't noticed / heard of the simultaneity. ~Toni On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Erno Kuusela wrote: > Hello, > > I asked about the weekend in the telco, but I may have misunderstood... > Let's try again in writing: So the idea is that for the coaching there > is a hangout where people can ask about all our GEs and there should be > people on call during the weekend to answer those. Does this mean that > we (on site attendees of the startup weekend) stay there over the > weekend to proxy this information to the locals, or do we just supply a > remote hangout over the weekend? > > Erno > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Wed Sep 24 15:14:54 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:14:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Weekend coaching vs presence? In-Reply-To: References: <20140924112940.GP8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <5422C3CE.1090006@dfki.de> Hi, Just to make sure: There is at least one person from all of us physically present at the event to talk to people. But since we cannot expect that everyone can answer questions about all GEs/SEs, we set up links to the "coaches" at the other locations. So there are three people definitely available. Of course, its fine if others are available remotely as well. But since it is weekend, we should not commit more people then necessary. Best, Philipp Am 24.09.2014 um 13:53 schrieb Toni Alatalo: > IIRC what Tiina (or someone) said in the meet was that as the weekends > are simultaneous the idea is to have hangouts (also) between the > different cities. That way we can cover all GEs as people from ~all > the techs are available. > > I'm sure we can help with that from offices/homes etc. too if needed > -- that's what I was originally thinking when hadn't noticed / heard > of the simultaneity. > > ~Toni > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Erno Kuusela wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I asked about the weekend in the telco, but I may have misunderstood... >> Let's try again in writing: So the idea is that for the coaching there >> is a hangout where people can ask about all our GEs and there should be >> people on call during the weekend to answer those. Does this mean that >> we (on site attendees of the startup weekend) stay there over the >> weekend to proxy this information to the locals, or do we just supply a >> remote hangout over the weekend? >> >> Erno >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Philipp -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: StartupWeekend Contact Information Datum: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:12:30 +0100 Von: Federico Michele Facca An: Philipp Slusallek Kopie (CC): MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE , Nuria De-Lama Sanchez you got all the information for the bootcamp here: http://www.up.co/communities/italy/milan/bootcamp/4836 we have 20 registered people. try to push for more, but given when we got go from sw, it is not going to be easy? the situation for the weekend is gonna be worst, we hope to get 30 people? so i think it is not worth they stay for the SW On 24/set/2014, at 16:00, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi, > > Ch. 1.5 (which I lead) has to cover all the events so we need the > contact info for all, so people can arrange things. > > But Milan is a good start! > > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 24.09.2014 um 10:25 schrieb Federico Michele Facca: >> Hi Phillip, >> I have information only for Milan, but I saw you are not listed there as coacher. >> If you need details for milan, I can provide you anyhow :) >> >> Federico >> >> On 24/set/2014, at 09:21, Philipp Slusallek wrote: >> >>> Hi Manuel, Nuria, >>> >>> Do you have a list of the contact persons for each of the startup >>> weekends (or can point me to someone who has?). We need to contact them >>> to clarify details of our engagement there (timing, location,etc.) >>> >>> It probably makes sense to put this into the spreadsheet as well. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>> >>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >>> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> -- >> Future Internet is closer than you think! >> >> http://www.fiware.org >> http://lab.fiware.org >> http://ops.fiware.org >> > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Future Internet is closer than you think! http://www.fiware.org http://lab.fiware.org http://ops.fiware.org -- Dr. Federico M. Facca CREATE-NET Via alla Cascata 56/D 38123 Povo Trento (Italy) T +39 0461 408400 (1669) F +39 0461 421157 M +39 334 6049758 E federico.facca at create-net.org W www.create-net.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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This information would have been really valuable before we made flight plans, guidance which we got required us to stay also for start-up weekend session. Worksheet is now our main information source, pls update it to contain also *event coordinator information* and *event location info*. Or at least link where this information can be found. Milan has the link already, excellent. Others, e.g Valencia is missing that info. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1MgeqYN69h7pTCjyZ4NVNcMgI5xBiGu5LIpzKet_q0/edit#gid=496816126 It makes travel arrangements easier when exact event location is know. Best regards, Sami On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Philipp Slusallek < philipp.slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi, > > So far I only got the info for Milan. Hope to get the other info soon. > > (If you need it more urgendly, maybe we can tray finding the > StartupWeekend through Google?). Sorry. > > Philipp > > > > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: StartupWeekend Contact Information > Datum: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:12:30 +0100 > Von: Federico Michele Facca > An: Philipp Slusallek > Kopie (CC): MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE , Nuria De-Lama Sanchez > > > you got all the information for the bootcamp here: > > http://www.up.co/communities/italy/milan/bootcamp/4836 > > we have 20 registered people. try to push for more, but given when we > got go from sw, > it is not going to be easy? > > the situation for the weekend is gonna be worst, we hope to get 30 > people? so i think > it is not worth they stay for the SW > > > On 24/set/2014, at 16:00, Philipp Slusallek > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Ch. 1.5 (which I lead) has to cover all the events so we need the > > contact info for all, so people can arrange things. > > > > But Milan is a good start! > > > > > > Best, > > > > Philipp > > > > Am 24.09.2014 um 10:25 schrieb Federico Michele Facca: > >> Hi Phillip, > >> I have information only for Milan, but I saw you are not listed there > as coacher. > >> If you need details for milan, I can provide you anyhow :) > >> > >> Federico > >> > >> On 24/set/2014, at 09:21, Philipp Slusallek > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Manuel, Nuria, > >>> > >>> Do you have a list of the contact persons for each of the startup > >>> weekends (or can point me to someone who has?). We need to contact them > >>> to clarify details of our engagement there (timing, location,etc.) > >>> > >>> It probably makes sense to put this into the spreadsheet as well. > >>> > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Philipp > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > >>> > >>> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff > >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > >>> > >>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > >>> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Future Internet is closer than you think! > >> > >> http://www.fiware.org > >> http://lab.fiware.org > >> http://ops.fiware.org > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > Future Internet is closer than you think! > > http://www.fiware.org > http://lab.fiware.org > http://ops.fiware.org > > -- > Dr. Federico M. Facca > > CREATE-NET > Via alla Cascata 56/D > 38123 Povo Trento (Italy) > > T +39 0461 408400 (1669) > F +39 0461 421157 > M +39 334 6049758 > E federico.facca at create-net.org > W www.create-net.org > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Sami Jylkk? Software Designer Cyberlightning Ltd. Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Thu Sep 25 15:17:12 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:17:12 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Synchronization GE bootcamp slides Message-ID: <7d20ba56ad17319a80c3746a140df903.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Hi, initial version of Synchronization GE slides online. Comments welcome. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ap-3lxLM13MDBtwsc41U3A9a1JkelllZ1tzG6W7n5Kg -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com Fri Sep 26 09:09:37 2014 From: sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com (Sami J) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:09:37 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Synchronization GE bootcamp slides In-Reply-To: <7d20ba56ad17319a80c3746a140df903.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> References: <7d20ba56ad17319a80c3746a140df903.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Message-ID: Hi Lasse, nice presentation, gives good impression of the presented GE. I have 2 comments: - If network connection for some reason fails during presentation, we should have at least screenshots of the Pong game as backup. - Slides 9 & 10 (example and explanations) could perhaps be combined, either so that explanations are in the speaker notes area. If I'd present this slideset, I'd prefer more to have actual example and explanations available in the same time :) Cheers, Sami On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:17 PM, "Lasse ??rni" wrote: > Hi, > initial version of Synchronization GE slides online. Comments welcome. > > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ap-3lxLM13MDBtwsc41U3A9a1JkelllZ1tzG6W7n5Kg > > -- > Lasse ??rni > Game Programmer > LudoCraft Ltd. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Sami Jylkk? Software Designer Cyberlightning Ltd. 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URL: From lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com Fri Sep 26 10:41:53 2014 From: lasse.oorni at ludocraft.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lasse_=D6=F6rni=22?=) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:41:53 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Synchronization GE bootcamp slides In-Reply-To: References: <7d20ba56ad17319a80c3746a140df903.squirrel@urho.ludocraft.com> Message-ID: > Hi Lasse, > nice presentation, gives good impression of the presented GE. > > I have 2 comments: > - If network connection for some reason fails during presentation, we > should have at least screenshots of the Pong game as backup. > - Slides 9 & 10 (example and explanations) could perhaps be combined, > either so that explanations are in the speaker notes area. If I'd present > this slideset, I'd prefer more to have actual example and explanations > available in the same time :) Good points! Screenshot has been added, and the code slides now have code & explanations on the same page. -- Lasse ??rni Game Programmer LudoCraft Ltd. From mach at zhaw.ch Fri Sep 26 17:31:18 2014 From: mach at zhaw.ch (Marti Christof (mach)) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:31:18 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Status FIWARE Lab deployment of MiWi GEis Message-ID: <4B3E8EFE-C5D6-43CC-BE73-F955ACB35B84@zhaw.ch> Dear WP13 GEi owners I was checking the status of FI-Lab deployment for the WP13 GEi?s based on Manuels reports: - FI-LAB Deployment: https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/4848/FILAB.monitoring.deployment.20140917.xlsx - Catalogue Status: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdG83Y0dQVEFKSHFYWmtXdlpEdnVpaXc&usp=sharing#gid=0 I found some errors/fixes in the report, e.g: - the reported ?missing? Synchronization recipe is available in SVN - We have elearning content for 2D-UI, Cloud Rendering, Interface Designer, GIS Data Provider & Real Virtual Interaction But overall, none of our GEi?s is available in FI-LAB yet. I would like to find out, where the problems are. So please let me know in which of the following points you are currently stuck and what problems you are facing: - approval of recipe - creation or approval of GEi image - creation or approval of Blueprint - creation or approval of elearning content - creation or approval of catalogue entry - other For the following GEi?s the Catalogue Status report declares that the concrete Open Source License is not decided: 2D-UI, Cloud Rendering, 2D-3D-Capture and Augmented Reality. Is this true? If yes, when will it be resolved? Please let me know as soon as possible, so we can take required supporting actions. Best regards Christof ---- InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab http://cloudcomp.ch Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW School of Engineering Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 Skype: christof-marti From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Sat Sep 27 16:28:54 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:28:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-ge-owners] FILAB - monitoring deployment - updated report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5426C9A6.1040905@dfki.de> Hi, I think this is a moot issue for client-side libraries. We could install a single node in FILAb or the testbed and recomment people to point their browsers/JS code there. At the same time we can put the same code in a single VM that we use for that instance but also allow people to instantiate it themselves. Its not clear to me tha the latter even makes sense as you can just copy the files into any Web server anyway or simply point your browser at github directly. But since we have to set up a server anyway (I believe), why not setup the VM first and upload and instantiate it from that. Does that make sense? The question then is if we want to set up a single image that has all the WebUI software on it or several for each GE or group of GEs. The first would be more efficient in terms of space and work time while the latter is less work to manage. Opinions are welcome. I do not think that we need to involve Juano for such a minor details. We do that of someone at FIWARE disagrees with our decisions. Otherwise we just do it, I would say :-). Best, Philipp Am 24.09.2014 um 09:39 schrieb Toni Alatalo: > forwarding this just for info, i think a minor point regarding how we > put info to the catalogue > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE > Date: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM > Subject: RE: [Fiware-ge-owners] FILAB - monitoring deployment - updated report > To: Toni Alatalo > Cc: Erno Kuusela , Philipp Slusallek > , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA > > > > Hi Toni, > > > > Thanks for letting me know. > > Please, discuss it with your chapter's architect, Philipp, and Juanjo. > They should be able to determine it. > > > > I'll update the report accordingly. > > > > Cheers, > > Manuel > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: toni.alatalo at gmail.com [mailto:toni.alatalo at gmail.com] On Behalf > Of Toni Alatalo > Sent: lunes, 22 de septiembre de 2014 13:14 > To: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE > Cc: Erno Kuusela > Subject: Re: [Fiware-ge-owners] FILAB - monitoring deployment - updated report > > > > Hi Manuel - was checking the statuses and we'll create the VM for > WebTundra next (now that have the recipe), > > > > One question: I see the note "instantiable or single global GEri - > still to be determined". How should that be determined - I mean by > whom an where and how, should we do it somehow? > > > > Many of our things are Javascript libraries to execute in the browser > .. so clearly not a single global instance but to be instantiated > multiple times that way. On the other hand, the same library can be > used my many client applications .. I mean often Javascript libs are > loaded from common places on the net, in that sense there can be a > single global instance of it (a place on the web which hosts the lib). > > > > Cheers, > > ~Toni > > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:27 PM, MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE > wrote: > >> Dear Partners, > >> > >> > >> > >> Please, find below the link to the updated report for FILAB deployment > >> monitoring: > >> > >> https://forge.fi-ware.org/docman/view.php/27/4848/FILAB.monitoring.dep > >> loyment.20140917.xlsx > >> > >> > >> > >> Please, take into account these tasks should have been achieved by the > >> end of August. > >> > >> Remarks: > >> > >> > >> > >> IoT: missing artefacts from IDAS and MRCoAP > >> > >> Data: missing artifacts from Cosmos, Kurento (blueprints) > >> > >> > >> > >> All WebUI appears scheduled for Q42014. Although progress done for > >> Augmented Reality and POI Server is very appreciated. The sooner the better. > >> > >> > >> > >> BUNDLES: > >> > >> Missing Data Context Streams, Wirecloud Monetization, WebTundra 3D > >> Virtual Worlds. > >> > >> Obviously progress on them depend on their components being available > >> for bundling. > >> > >> > >> > >> If anything, please, let me know. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Manuel > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------- > >> > >> Manuel Escriche Vicente > >> Agile Project Manager/Leader > >> > >> FI-WARE Initiative > >> Telef?nica Digital > >> > >> Parque Tecnol?gico > >> > >> C/ Abraham Zacuto, 10 > >> 47151 - Boecillo > >> Valladolid - Spain > >> Tfno: +34.91.312.99.72 > >> Fax: +34.983.36.75.64 > >> http://www.tid.es > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su > >> destinatario, puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y > >> es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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This is getting really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this and join but no guarantees. Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? Best, Philipp -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 Von: Juanjo Hierro An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org Hi all, Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using available installation and admin guides. Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your chapter. Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. Best regards, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 From: To: , CC: , , , , (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) Dear Juanjo, Stefano, We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have similar experiences. Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: ? Documentation o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions that are no longer available. o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work correctly. o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. ? Installation o In many cases the download section or the download links in the installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the development repository. o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might break other software on the system. o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are often only working on very specific system configurations and are not able to automatically install the dependencies. o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required system is old and no longer supported with security updates. ? FI-Lab o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. o Several open source example applications must be included. They must be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive and knowledgeable community is active. o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is difficult to find. o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach the users to build complex applications from scratch. o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. Urgent action is necessary now. Therefore, the following is necessary: * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the people involved in the project will not have the authority to include them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the only option. * Documentation writers must be closely working with the developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions available for download. * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the installation documentation. * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot from the development repository. * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core activities. * FI-Lab * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. * Create several open source example applications. People will not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these applications and compile them. * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share experiences, improve applications, etc. * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your agenda. Best regards, Arian ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda a su destrucci?n. 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Name: philipp_slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From toni at playsign.net Mon Sep 29 07:30:17 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 08:30:17 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue In-Reply-To: <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> References: <5428A1C7.7050201@telefonica.com> <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> Message-ID: Ok I can be there. I checked quickly and for WebTundra it seems that the report states plain false information -- WT does not require undocumented installing of external dependencies ("such as three.js" the report says) but it bundles the version of three + extras it needs. I don't know where they got that false idea, the docs suggest nothing such AFAIK. Is of course good to check and add some clarification to the doc if needed. So far it seems as if the testers were just lazy and didn't actually try the instructions but just assumed something and skipped the test. If others could also check what their feedback is about before the meet it would be nice to know. ~Toni On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Philipp Slusallek wrote: > Hi all, > > I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor > details) non of our GEs has passed the test. > > It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting > really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. > > Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific > Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this > and join but no guarantees. > > Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a > guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest > that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? > > > Best, > > Philipp > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination > confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in > the Catalogue > Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 > Von: Juanjo Hierro > An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, > fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org > Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org > > Hi all, > > Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a > weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on > Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. > > In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do > with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS > by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. > > As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly > considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri > has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using > available installation and admin guides. > > Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your > chapter. > > Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only > be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an > overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the > subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle > the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the > experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent > assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting > on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. > > Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE > Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. > > Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated > slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 > From: > To: > , > > CC: , > , > , > , > > > > (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) > > > Dear Juanjo, Stefano, > > We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel > Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of > getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using > FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the > GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a > third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have > similar experiences. > > Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the > Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several > issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the > FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: > > > ? Documentation > > o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions > that are no longer available. > > o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install > the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work > correctly. > > o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides > follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. > > ? Installation > > o In many cases the download section or the download links in the > installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be > downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is > only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the > development repository. > > o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a > clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long > manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might > break other software on the system. > > o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are > often only working on very specific system configurations and are not > able to automatically install the dependencies. > > o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not > able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required > system is old and no longer supported with security updates. > > ? FI-Lab > > o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim > and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand > for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. > > o Several open source example applications must be included. They must > be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to > make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these > applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and > documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. > > o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where > everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share > experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to > use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive > and knowledgeable community is active. > > o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand > their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial > followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to > use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is > difficult to find. > > o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach > the users to build complex applications from scratch. > > o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with > the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface > of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. > > Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the > same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. > > Urgent action is necessary now. > > Therefore, the following is necessary: > > > * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers > for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such > professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the > people involved in the project will not have the authority to include > them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the > only option. > * Documentation writers must be closely working with the > developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. > * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and > fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail > within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps > and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions > available for download. > * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the > dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They > should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), > test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers > * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the > Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, > or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary > extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy > installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the > documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to > correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work > correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. > * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing > frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must > be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should > not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when > that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. > * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the > installation documentation. > * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot > from the development repository. > * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where > everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve > problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. > The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users > have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core > activities. > * FI-Lab > * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is > especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training > guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained > accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or > the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. > * Create several open source example applications. People will > not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must > be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to > make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these > applications and compile them. > * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users > where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, > share experiences, improve applications, etc. > * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating > Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. > > > Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever > resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have > we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The > credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at > risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the > accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. > > These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. > > We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. > Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your > agenda. > > Best regards, > Arian > > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el > destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, > divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud > de la legislaci?n vigente. 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Se n?o ? vossa > senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, > utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em > virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, > rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e > proceda a sua destrui??o > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Mon Sep 29 07:34:26 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:34:26 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue In-Reply-To: References: <5428A1C7.7050201@telefonica.com> <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> Message-ID: <5428EF62.40608@dfki.de> Hi Toni, Thanks! And yes, it would be good to quickly compile a feedback report to FIWARE about the document freom the perspective of WebUI. FIWARE can then compile an overall response and send it back to the PO. Best, Philipp Am 29.09.2014 um 07:30 schrieb Toni Alatalo: > Ok I can be there. > > I checked quickly and for WebTundra it seems that the report states > plain false information -- WT does not require undocumented installing > of external dependencies ("such as three.js" the report says) but it > bundles the version of three + extras it needs. I don't know where > they got that false idea, the docs suggest nothing such AFAIK. Is of > course good to check and add some clarification to the doc if needed. > > So far it seems as if the testers were just lazy and didn't actually > try the instructions but just assumed something and skipped the test. > > If others could also check what their feedback is about before the > meet it would be nice to know. > > ~Toni > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Philipp Slusallek > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor >> details) non of our GEs has passed the test. >> >> It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting >> really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. >> >> Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific >> Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this >> and join but no guarantees. >> >> Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a >> guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest >> that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? >> >> >> Best, >> >> Philipp >> >> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >> Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination >> confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in >> the Catalogue >> Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 >> Von: Juanjo Hierro >> An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, >> fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org >> Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org >> >> Hi all, >> >> Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a >> weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on >> Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. >> >> In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do >> with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS >> by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. >> >> As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly >> considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri >> has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using >> available installation and admin guides. >> >> Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your >> chapter. >> >> Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only >> be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an >> overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the >> subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle >> the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the >> experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent >> assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting >> on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. >> >> Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE >> Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. >> >> Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated >> slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED >> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 >> From: >> To: >> , >> >> CC: , >> , >> , >> , >> >> >> >> (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) >> >> >> Dear Juanjo, Stefano, >> >> We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel >> Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of >> getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using >> FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the >> GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a >> third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have >> similar experiences. >> >> Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the >> Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several >> issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the >> FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: >> >> >> ? Documentation >> >> o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions >> that are no longer available. >> >> o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install >> the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work >> correctly. >> >> o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides >> follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. >> >> ? Installation >> >> o In many cases the download section or the download links in the >> installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be >> downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is >> only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the >> development repository. >> >> o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a >> clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long >> manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might >> break other software on the system. >> >> o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are >> often only working on very specific system configurations and are not >> able to automatically install the dependencies. >> >> o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not >> able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required >> system is old and no longer supported with security updates. >> >> ? FI-Lab >> >> o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim >> and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand >> for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. >> >> o Several open source example applications must be included. They must >> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >> applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and >> documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. >> >> o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where >> everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share >> experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to >> use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive >> and knowledgeable community is active. >> >> o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand >> their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial >> followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to >> use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is >> difficult to find. >> >> o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach >> the users to build complex applications from scratch. >> >> o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with >> the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface >> of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >> >> Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the >> same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. >> >> Urgent action is necessary now. >> >> Therefore, the following is necessary: >> >> >> * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers >> for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such >> professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the >> people involved in the project will not have the authority to include >> them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the >> only option. >> * Documentation writers must be closely working with the >> developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. >> * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and >> fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail >> within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps >> and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions >> available for download. >> * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the >> dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They >> should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), >> test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers >> * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the >> Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, >> or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary >> extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy >> installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the >> documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to >> correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work >> correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. >> * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing >> frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must >> be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should >> not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when >> that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. >> * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the >> installation documentation. >> * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot >> from the development repository. >> * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where >> everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve >> problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. >> The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users >> have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core >> activities. >> * FI-Lab >> * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is >> especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training >> guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained >> accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or >> the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >> * Create several open source example applications. People will >> not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must >> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >> applications and compile them. >> * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users >> where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, >> share experiences, improve applications, etc. >> * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating >> Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. >> >> >> Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever >> resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have >> we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The >> credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at >> risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the >> accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. >> >> These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. >> >> We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. >> Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your >> agenda. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, >> puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso >> exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el >> destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, >> divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud >> de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le >> rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda >> a su destrucci?n. >> >> The information contained in this transmission is privileged and >> confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or >> entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution >> or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >> received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately >> reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error >> and then delete it. >> >> Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu >> destinat?rio, pode conter informa??o privilegiada ou confidencial e ? >> para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se n?o ? vossa >> senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, >> utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em >> virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, >> rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e >> proceda a sua destrui??o >> >> >> -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> >> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Name: philipp_slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de Mon Sep 29 09:22:16 2014 From: torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de (Torsten Spieldenner) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:22:16 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue In-Reply-To: <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> References: <5428A1C7.7050201@telefonica.com> <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> Message-ID: <542908A8.4020502@dfki.de> Hello, yes, I can join the meeting today. How is it arranged? Phone conference? Best, Torsten Am 9/29/2014 6:33 AM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: > Hi all, > > I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor > details) non of our GEs has passed the test. > > It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting > really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. > > Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific > Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this > and join but no guarantees. > > Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a > guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest > that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? > > > Best, > > Philipp > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination > confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in > the Catalogue > Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 > Von: Juanjo Hierro > An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, > fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org > Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org > > Hi all, > > Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a > weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on > Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. > > In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do > with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS > by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. > > As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly > considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri > has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using > available installation and admin guides. > > Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your > chapter. > > Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only > be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an > overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the > subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle > the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the > experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent > assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting > on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. > > Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE > Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. > > Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated > slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 > From: > To: > , > > CC: , > , > , > , > > > > (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) > > > Dear Juanjo, Stefano, > > We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel > Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of > getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using > FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the > GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a > third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have > similar experiences. > > Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the > Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several > issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the > FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: > > > ? Documentation > > o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions > that are no longer available. > > o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install > the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work > correctly. > > o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides > follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. > > ? Installation > > o In many cases the download section or the download links in the > installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be > downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is > only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the > development repository. > > o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a > clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long > manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might > break other software on the system. > > o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are > often only working on very specific system configurations and are not > able to automatically install the dependencies. > > o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not > able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required > system is old and no longer supported with security updates. > > ? FI-Lab > > o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim > and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand > for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. > > o Several open source example applications must be included. They must > be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to > make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these > applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and > documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. > > o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where > everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share > experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to > use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive > and knowledgeable community is active. > > o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand > their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial > followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to > use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is > difficult to find. > > o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach > the users to build complex applications from scratch. > > o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with > the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface > of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. > > Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the > same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. > > Urgent action is necessary now. > > Therefore, the following is necessary: > > > * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers > for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such > professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the > people involved in the project will not have the authority to include > them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the > only option. > * Documentation writers must be closely working with the > developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. > * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and > fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail > within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps > and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions > available for download. > * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the > dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They > should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), > test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers > * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the > Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, > or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary > extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy > installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the > documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to > correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work > correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. > * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing > frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must > be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should > not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when > that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. > * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the > installation documentation. > * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot > from the development repository. > * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where > everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve > problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. > The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users > have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core > activities. > * FI-Lab > * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is > especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training > guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained > accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or > the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. > * Create several open source example applications. People will > not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must > be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to > make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these > applications and compile them. > * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users > where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, > share experiences, improve applications, etc. > * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating > Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. > > > Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever > resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have > we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The > credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at > risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the > accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. > > These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. > > We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. > Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your > agenda. > > Best regards, > Arian > > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el > destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, > divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud > de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le > rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda > a su destrucci?n. > > The information contained in this transmission is privileged and > confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately > reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error > and then delete it. > > Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu > destinat?rio, pode conter informa??o privilegiada ou confidencial e ? > para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se n?o ? vossa > senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, > utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em > virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, > rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e > proceda a sua destrui??o > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi -- Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toni at playsign.net Mon Sep 29 10:03:11 2014 From: toni at playsign.net (Toni Alatalo) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:03:11 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue In-Reply-To: <542908A8.4020502@dfki.de> References: <5428A1C7.7050201@telefonica.com> <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> <542908A8.4020502@dfki.de> Message-ID: I also don't know - asked Philipp and Stefan, I also suppose it is some telephone based thing. Made a little doc / table where we could gather info about the reports & actions on our part, https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PVyt79c7gTmKIskg00opdhXXFdf1tYRBiF9fmSTMyg/edit?usp=sharing ~Toni On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Torsten Spieldenner wrote: > Hello, > > yes, I can join the meeting today. How is it arranged? Phone conference? > > Best, > Torsten > > > Am 9/29/2014 6:33 AM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: > > Hi all, > > I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor > details) non of our GEs has passed the test. > > It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting > really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. > > Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific > Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this > and join but no guarantees. > > Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a > guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest > that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? > > > Best, > > Philipp > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination > confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in > the Catalogue > Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 > Von: Juanjo Hierro > An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, > fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org > Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org > > Hi all, > > Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a > weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on > Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. > > In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do > with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS > by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. > > As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly > considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri > has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using > available installation and admin guides. > > Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your > chapter. > > Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only > be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an > overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the > subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle > the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the > experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent > assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting > on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. > > Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE > Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. > > Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated > slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 > From: > To: > , > > CC: , > , > , > , > > > > (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) > > > Dear Juanjo, Stefano, > > We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel > Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of > getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using > FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the > GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a > third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have > similar experiences. > > Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the > Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several > issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the > FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: > > > ? Documentation > > o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions > that are no longer available. > > o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install > the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work > correctly. > > o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides > follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. > > ? Installation > > o In many cases the download section or the download links in the > installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be > downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is > only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the > development repository. > > o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a > clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long > manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might > break other software on the system. > > o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are > often only working on very specific system configurations and are not > able to automatically install the dependencies. > > o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not > able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required > system is old and no longer supported with security updates. > > ? FI-Lab > > o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim > and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand > for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. > > o Several open source example applications must be included. They must > be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to > make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these > applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and > documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. > > o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where > everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share > experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to > use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive > and knowledgeable community is active. > > o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand > their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial > followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to > use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is > difficult to find. > > o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach > the users to build complex applications from scratch. > > o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with > the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface > of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. > > Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the > same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. > > Urgent action is necessary now. > > Therefore, the following is necessary: > > > * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers > for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such > professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the > people involved in the project will not have the authority to include > them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the > only option. > * Documentation writers must be closely working with the > developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. > * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and > fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail > within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps > and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions > available for download. > * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the > dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They > should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), > test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers > * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the > Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, > or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary > extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy > installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the > documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to > correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work > correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. > * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing > frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must > be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should > not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when > that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. > * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the > installation documentation. > * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot > from the development repository. > * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where > everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve > problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. > The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users > have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core > activities. > * FI-Lab > * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is > especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training > guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained > accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or > the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. > * Create several open source example applications. People will > not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must > be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to > make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these > applications and compile them. > * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users > where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, > share experiences, improve applications, etc. > * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating > Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. > > > Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever > resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have > we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The > credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at > risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the > accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. > > These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. > > We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. > Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your > agenda. > > Best regards, > Arian > > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el > destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, > divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud > de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le > rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda > a su destrucci?n. > > The information contained in this transmission is privileged and > confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately > reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error > and then delete it. > > Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu > destinat?rio, pode conter informa??o privilegiada ou confidencial e ? > para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se n?o ? vossa > senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, > utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em > virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, > rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e > proceda a sua destrui??o > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > -- > Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. > > Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 > Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 > > Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsfuehrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > From sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com Mon Sep 29 13:25:48 2014 From: sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com (Sami J) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 14:25:48 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> Message-ID: Hello all, how our bootcamp presentation preparation is going? There's few presentation available: Syncronization (LudoCraft): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ap-3lxLM13MDBtwsc41U3A9a1JkelllZ1tzG6W7n5Kg GIS (Cyber): https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1Ef96K41etIK8cqquQAo1zZSNeWb03xWqIJIgr9YNr7c RvI, few examples needs to be still added (Cyber) https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1oDM1vBM09l-Zu4snHYXkwO4lAwydqkFqo5wIqSqbJBI/edit#slide=id.p23 CIE will provide presentations for AR and POI, pls send links when available How about DFKI's 3D-UI presenation, are there already available somewhere? Demos as well? Also what presentations there will be form adminotech side and are there already available? Reason why I'm asking status and links is that as a presentator which is going to use these materials at Milan, I want to get familiar with the material before actual event :) Cheers, Sami On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Philipp Slusallek < philipp.slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > Just saw that the document with the minutes was not yet shared with all > of you. It now is: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d8E4fstDZgP01OT5kXxmxa5KcVc5lWaA6zMfc_52pwg/edit?usp=sharing > > Please update your attendance, a short statement of where you are with > your preparation, and anything else that I might have missed during the > meeting :-). > > Again the main link to the startup preparation is at > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1MgeqYN69h7pTCjyZ4NVNcMgI5xBiGu5LIpzKet_q0/edit#gid=0 > > I have sent mail to Manuel and others to get contact info for each of > the events. Please also add your travel cost estimations to that document. > > > Thanks a lot, > > Philipp > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -- Sami Jylkk? Software Designer Cyberlightning Ltd. Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de Mon Sep 29 13:40:31 2014 From: torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de (Torsten Spieldenner) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:40:31 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> Message-ID: <5429452F.8040409@dfki.de> Hello, Felix is currently working hard on preparing the presentation for the DFKI-Part of 3D-UI. This presentation will include XML3D and Xflow, as well as fitting demos. @Felix: Will you upload the slides somewhere when done? I assume they will be based on HTML / Reveal.js as usual? Best, Torsten Am 9/29/2014 1:25 PM, schrieb Sami J: > Hello all, > how our bootcamp presentation preparation is going? > There's few presentation available: > > Syncronization (LudoCraft): > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ap-3lxLM13MDBtwsc41U3A9a1JkelllZ1tzG6W7n5Kg > > GIS (Cyber): > https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1Ef96K41etIK8cqquQAo1zZSNeWb03xWqIJIgr9YNr7c > > RvI, few examples needs to be still added (Cyber) > https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1oDM1vBM09l-Zu4snHYXkwO4lAwydqkFqo5wIqSqbJBI/edit#slide=id.p23 > > CIE will provide presentations for AR and POI, pls send links when > available > > How about DFKI's 3D-UI presenation, are there already available > somewhere? Demos as well? > > Also what presentations there will be form adminotech side and are > there already available? > > Reason why I'm asking status and links is that as a presentator which > is going to use these materials at Milan, I want to get familiar with > the material before actual event :) > > Cheers, > Sami > > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Philipp Slusallek > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just saw that the document with the minutes was not yet shared > with all > of you. It now is: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d8E4fstDZgP01OT5kXxmxa5KcVc5lWaA6zMfc_52pwg/edit?usp=sharing > > Please update your attendance, a short statement of where you are with > your preparation, and anything else that I might have missed > during the > meeting :-). > > Again the main link to the startup preparation is at > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1MgeqYN69h7pTCjyZ4NVNcMgI5xBiGu5LIpzKet_q0/edit#gid=0 > > I have sent mail to Manuel and others to get contact info for each of > the events. Please also add your travel cost estimations to that > document. > > > Thanks a lot, > > Philipp > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) > USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Sami Jylkk? > Software Designer > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system > without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi -- Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. 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URL: From lachsen at cg.uni-saarland.de Mon Sep 29 13:47:03 2014 From: lachsen at cg.uni-saarland.de (Felix Klein) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:47:03 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: <5429452F.8040409@dfki.de> References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <5429452F.8040409@dfki.de> Message-ID: Hey, yes, the slides will be HTML / Reveal.js again. I'm working on them right now and will try to finish this today. Bye Felix On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Torsten Spieldenner < torsten.spieldenner at dfki.de> wrote: > Hello, > > Felix is currently working hard on preparing the presentation for the > DFKI-Part of 3D-UI. This presentation will include XML3D and Xflow, as well > as fitting demos. > > @Felix: Will you upload the slides somewhere when done? I assume they will > be based on HTML / Reveal.js as usual? > > Best, > Torsten > > Am 9/29/2014 1:25 PM, schrieb Sami J: > > Hello all, > how our bootcamp presentation preparation is going? > There's few presentation available: > > Syncronization (LudoCraft): > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ap-3lxLM13MDBtwsc41U3A9a1JkelllZ1tzG6W7n5Kg > > GIS (Cyber): > > https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1Ef96K41etIK8cqquQAo1zZSNeWb03xWqIJIgr9YNr7c > > RvI, few examples needs to be still added (Cyber) > > https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1oDM1vBM09l-Zu4snHYXkwO4lAwydqkFqo5wIqSqbJBI/edit#slide=id.p23 > > CIE will provide presentations for AR and POI, pls send links when > available > > How about DFKI's 3D-UI presenation, are there already available > somewhere? Demos as well? > > Also what presentations there will be form adminotech side and are there > already available? > > Reason why I'm asking status and links is that as a presentator which is > going to use these materials at Milan, I want to get familiar with the > material before actual event :) > > Cheers, > Sami > > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Philipp Slusallek < > philipp.slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just saw that the document with the minutes was not yet shared with all >> of you. It now is: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d8E4fstDZgP01OT5kXxmxa5KcVc5lWaA6zMfc_52pwg/edit?usp=sharing >> >> Please update your attendance, a short statement of where you are with >> your preparation, and anything else that I might have missed during the >> meeting :-). >> >> Again the main link to the startup preparation is at >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1MgeqYN69h7pTCjyZ4NVNcMgI5xBiGu5LIpzKet_q0/edit#gid=0 >> >> I have sent mail to Manuel and others to get contact info for each of >> the events. Please also add your travel cost estimations to that document. >> >> >> Thanks a lot, >> >> Philipp >> -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> >> Gesch?ftsf?hrung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) >> USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> > > > -- > Sami Jylkk? > Software Designer > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without > producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing listFiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.orghttps://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > -- > Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. > > Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 > Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 > > Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany > > Geschaeftsfuehrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erno at playsign.net Mon Sep 29 14:44:22 2014 From: erno at playsign.net (Erno Kuusela) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:44:22 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> Message-ID: <20140929124422.GA8543@ee.oulu.fi> Our 3D UI presentation is coming along here, still under construction: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10quTPTdoMWls_AGoXfgYhsMiWt96RP0dHHffwCcmFnY/edit#slide=id.p22 How much time approximately do you have use per presentation? Erno From sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com Mon Sep 29 14:55:36 2014 From: sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com (Sami J) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:55:36 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: <20140929124422.GA8543@ee.oulu.fi> References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <20140929124422.GA8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: Thanks Erno, used time pretty much depend amount of the available presentations. Friday morning presentation session from WebUI part is divided to 2 separate slots, coffee break will be held between presentations. 1st slot is ~2hours, second bit over 1 hour. So if we have e.g. 6 presentations for the morning, we are able to use max ~30minutes per presentation. Most likely presentation length will vary depending subject of the presentation, but I'd estimate that 15-30 minutes will be used for each slideset. Regards, Sami On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erno Kuusela wrote: > Our 3D UI presentation is coming along here, still under construction: > > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10quTPTdoMWls_AGoXfgYhsMiWt96RP0dHHffwCcmFnY/edit#slide=id.p22 > > How much time approximately do you have use per presentation? > > Erno > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Sami Jylkk? Software Designer Cyberlightning Ltd. Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Mon Sep 29 15:13:42 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:13:42 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue In-Reply-To: References: <5428A1C7.7050201@telefonica.com> <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> <542908A8.4020502@dfki.de> Message-ID: <54295B06.9070300@dfki.de> Hi, I have added a title and a summary assesment at the beginning. Toni, Torsten, (and others) can you please check, if you agree or we need to change it. I want to send the document ideally within the current call. Thanks, Philipp Am 29.09.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Toni Alatalo: > resend to help finding i hope.. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Toni Alatalo > Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: > FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by > HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue > To: Torsten Spieldenner > Cc: "FI-WARE, MiWi" > > > I also don't know - asked Philipp and Stefan, I also suppose it is > some telephone based thing. > > Made a little doc / table where we could gather info about the reports > & actions on our part, > https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PVyt79c7gTmKIskg00opdhXXFdf1tYRBiF9fmSTMyg/edit?usp=sharing > > ~Toni > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Torsten Spieldenner > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> yes, I can join the meeting today. How is it arranged? Phone conference? >> >> Best, >> Torsten >> >> >> Am 9/29/2014 6:33 AM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor >> details) non of our GEs has passed the test. >> >> It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting >> really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. >> >> Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific >> Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this >> and join but no guarantees. >> >> Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a >> guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest >> that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? >> >> >> Best, >> >> Philipp >> >> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >> Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination >> confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in >> the Catalogue >> Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 >> Von: Juanjo Hierro >> An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, >> fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org >> Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org >> >> Hi all, >> >> Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a >> weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on >> Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. >> >> In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do >> with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS >> by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. >> >> As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly >> considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri >> has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using >> available installation and admin guides. >> >> Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your >> chapter. >> >> Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only >> be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an >> overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the >> subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle >> the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the >> experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent >> assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting >> on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. >> >> Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE >> Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. >> >> Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated >> slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED >> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 >> From: >> To: >> , >> >> CC: , >> , >> , >> , >> >> >> >> (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) >> >> >> Dear Juanjo, Stefano, >> >> We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel >> Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of >> getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using >> FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the >> GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a >> third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have >> similar experiences. >> >> Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the >> Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several >> issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the >> FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: >> >> >> ? Documentation >> >> o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions >> that are no longer available. >> >> o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install >> the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work >> correctly. >> >> o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides >> follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. >> >> ? Installation >> >> o In many cases the download section or the download links in the >> installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be >> downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is >> only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the >> development repository. >> >> o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a >> clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long >> manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might >> break other software on the system. >> >> o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are >> often only working on very specific system configurations and are not >> able to automatically install the dependencies. >> >> o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not >> able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required >> system is old and no longer supported with security updates. >> >> ? FI-Lab >> >> o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim >> and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand >> for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. >> >> o Several open source example applications must be included. They must >> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >> applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and >> documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. >> >> o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where >> everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share >> experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to >> use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive >> and knowledgeable community is active. >> >> o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand >> their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial >> followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to >> use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is >> difficult to find. >> >> o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach >> the users to build complex applications from scratch. >> >> o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with >> the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface >> of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >> >> Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the >> same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. >> >> Urgent action is necessary now. >> >> Therefore, the following is necessary: >> >> >> * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers >> for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such >> professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the >> people involved in the project will not have the authority to include >> them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the >> only option. >> * Documentation writers must be closely working with the >> developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. >> * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and >> fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail >> within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps >> and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions >> available for download. >> * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the >> dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They >> should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), >> test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers >> * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the >> Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, >> or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary >> extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy >> installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the >> documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to >> correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work >> correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. >> * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing >> frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must >> be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should >> not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when >> that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. >> * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the >> installation documentation. >> * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot >> from the development repository. >> * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where >> everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve >> problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. >> The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users >> have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core >> activities. >> * FI-Lab >> * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is >> especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training >> guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained >> accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or >> the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >> * Create several open source example applications. People will >> not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must >> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >> applications and compile them. >> * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users >> where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, >> share experiences, improve applications, etc. >> * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating >> Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. >> >> >> Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever >> resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have >> we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The >> credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at >> risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the >> accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. >> >> These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. >> >> We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. >> Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your >> agenda. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, >> puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso >> exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el >> destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, >> divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud >> de la legislaci?n vigente. 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Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >> Dr. Walter Olthoff >> >> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >> >> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Torsten Am 9/29/2014 3:13 PM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: > Hi, > > I have added a title and a summary assesment at the beginning. > > Toni, Torsten, (and others) can you please check, if you agree or we > need to change it. > > I want to send the document ideally within the current call. > > > Thanks, > > Philipp > > Am 29.09.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Toni Alatalo: >> resend to help finding i hope.. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Toni Alatalo >> Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: >> FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by >> HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue >> To: Torsten Spieldenner >> Cc: "FI-WARE, MiWi" >> >> >> I also don't know - asked Philipp and Stefan, I also suppose it is >> some telephone based thing. >> >> Made a little doc / table where we could gather info about the reports >> & actions on our part, >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PVyt79c7gTmKIskg00opdhXXFdf1tYRBiF9fmSTMyg/edit?usp=sharing >> >> ~Toni >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Torsten Spieldenner >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> yes, I can join the meeting today. How is it arranged? Phone conference? >>> >>> Best, >>> Torsten >>> >>> >>> Am 9/29/2014 6:33 AM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor >>> details) non of our GEs has passed the test. >>> >>> It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting >>> really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing this, ASAP. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our Scientific >>> Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this >>> and join but no guarantees. >>> >>> Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a >>> guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest >>> that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >>> Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination >>> confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in >>> the Catalogue >>> Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 >>> Von: Juanjo Hierro >>> An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, >>> fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org >>> Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will have a >>> weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on >>> Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. >>> >>> In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do >>> with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS >>> by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. >>> >>> As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly >>> considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri >>> has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using >>> available installation and admin guides. >>> >>> Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your >>> chapter. >>> >>> Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can only >>> be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an >>> overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the >>> subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can handle >>> the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on the >>> experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent >>> assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, trusting >>> on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. >>> >>> Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE >>> Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. >>> >>> Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated >>> slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> -- Juanjo >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED >>> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 >>> From: >>> To: >>> , >>> >>> CC: , >>> , >>> , >>> , >>> >>> >>> >>> (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) >>> >>> >>> Dear Juanjo, Stefano, >>> >>> We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by Daniel >>> Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of >>> getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using >>> FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the >>> GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a >>> third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have >>> similar experiences. >>> >>> Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the >>> Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several >>> issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the >>> FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: >>> >>> >>> ? Documentation >>> >>> o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions >>> that are no longer available. >>> >>> o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to install >>> the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work >>> correctly. >>> >>> o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides >>> follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of detail. >>> >>> ? Installation >>> >>> o In many cases the download section or the download links in the >>> installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be >>> downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is >>> only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the >>> development repository. >>> >>> o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a >>> clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long >>> manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might >>> break other software on the system. >>> >>> o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are >>> often only working on very specific system configurations and are not >>> able to automatically install the dependencies. >>> >>> o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are not >>> able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the required >>> system is old and no longer supported with security updates. >>> >>> ? FI-Lab >>> >>> o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim >>> and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand >>> for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. >>> >>> o Several open source example applications must be included. They must >>> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >>> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >>> applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and >>> documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. >>> >>> o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where >>> everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share >>> experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more inclined to >>> use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive >>> and knowledgeable community is active. >>> >>> o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand >>> their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial >>> followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning how to >>> use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is >>> difficult to find. >>> >>> o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to teach >>> the users to build complex applications from scratch. >>> >>> o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly with >>> the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user interface >>> of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >>> >>> Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the >>> same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. >>> >>> Urgent action is necessary now. >>> >>> Therefore, the following is necessary: >>> >>> >>> * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers >>> for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such >>> professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the >>> people involved in the project will not have the authority to include >>> them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the >>> only option. >>> * Documentation writers must be closely working with the >>> developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. >>> * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and >>> fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail >>> within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation steps >>> and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions >>> available for download. >>> * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the >>> dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They >>> should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), >>> test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation writers >>> * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using the >>> Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when possible, >>> or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the necessary >>> extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy >>> installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the >>> documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to >>> correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work >>> correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. >>> * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing >>> frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must >>> be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users should >>> not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when >>> that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. >>> * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the >>> installation documentation. >>> * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code snapshot >>> from the development repository. >>> * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where >>> everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve >>> problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. >>> The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users >>> have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core >>> activities. >>> * FI-Lab >>> * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is >>> especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, training >>> guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained >>> accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or >>> the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >>> * Create several open source example applications. People will >>> not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must >>> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >>> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >>> applications and compile them. >>> * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users >>> where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, >>> share experiences, improve applications, etc. >>> * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating >>> Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. >>> >>> >>> Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, whatever >>> resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have >>> we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The >>> credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 are at >>> risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the >>> accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio report. >>> >>> These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. >>> >>> We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. >>> Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your >>> agenda. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Arian >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, >>> puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso >>> exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el >>> destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, >>> divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud >>> de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le >>> rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda >>> a su destrucci?n. >>> >>> The information contained in this transmission is privileged and >>> confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or >>> entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended >>> recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution >>> or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >>> received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately >>> reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error >>> and then delete it. >>> >>> Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu >>> destinat?rio, pode conter informa??o privilegiada ou confidencial e ? >>> para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se n?o ? vossa >>> senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, >>> utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em >>> virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, >>> rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e >>> proceda a sua destrui??o >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>> >>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>> >>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>> >>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> > -- Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ------------------------------------------------------------- From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Mon Sep 29 15:30:26 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:30:26 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue In-Reply-To: <54295BA9.3090601@dfki.de> References: <5428A1C7.7050201@telefonica.com> <5428E104.6010406@dfki.de> <542908A8.4020502@dfki.de> <54295B06.9070300@dfki.de> <54295BA9.3090601@dfki.de> Message-ID: <54295EF2.5030900@dfki.de> Hi, I have to leave now. I have just posted the link to FIWARE. Feel free to change the text as necessary, as most people will not read it until later. Best, Philipp Am 29.09.2014 um 15:16 schrieb Torsten Spieldenner: > Hi, > > ok for me. > > Torsten > > Am 9/29/2014 3:13 PM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: >> Hi, >> >> I have added a title and a summary assesment at the beginning. >> >> Toni, Torsten, (and others) can you please check, if you agree or we >> need to change it. >> >> I want to send the document ideally within the current call. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Philipp >> >> Am 29.09.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Toni Alatalo: >>> resend to help finding i hope.. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Toni Alatalo >>> Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Fiware-miwi] Fwd: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: >>> FIWARE coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by >>> HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue >>> To: Torsten Spieldenner >>> Cc: "FI-WARE, MiWi" >>> >>> >>> I also don't know - asked Philipp and Stefan, I also suppose it is >>> some telephone based thing. >>> >>> Made a little doc / table where we could gather info about the reports >>> & actions on our part, >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PVyt79c7gTmKIskg00opdhXXFdf1tYRBiF9fmSTMyg/edit?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> ~Toni >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Torsten Spieldenner >>> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> yes, I can join the meeting today. How is it arranged? Phone >>>> conference? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Torsten >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 9/29/2014 6:33 AM, schrieb Philipp Slusallek: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I got this tonight. It seems that except for VC and XML3D (with minor >>>> details) non of our GEs has passed the test. >>>> >>>> It seems that there is some work that needs to be done. This is getting >>>> really serious now and we should put specific emphasis on fixing >>>> this, ASAP. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, I will be at our twice-yearly meeting with our >>>> Scientific >>>> Architecture Board today and tomorrow. I will try to skip some of this >>>> and join but no guarantees. >>>> >>>> Torsten can you please join the meeting so we definitely have a >>>> guaranteed continuous presence there. Due to the importance, I suggest >>>> that maybe Toni can join as well for the Oulu partners? >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Philipp >>>> >>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >>>> Betreff: [Fiware-chapter-architects] URGENT: FIWARE coordination >>>> confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in >>>> the Catalogue >>>> Datum: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 +0200 >>>> Von: Juanjo Hierro >>>> An: fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org, >>>> fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org >>>> Kopie (CC): fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Starting today and as agreed during our Munich meeting, we will >>>> have a >>>> weekly coordination confcall involving FIWARE Chapter/WG leaders on >>>> Mondays from 14:30 until 16:00. >>>> >>>> In today's confcall, there is a hot topic to address that has to do >>>> with the response to a new technical assessment report produced by HLRS >>>> by request of the EC. Please find it attached to this mail. >>>> >>>> As you will see, the assessment cannot be more negative, mostly >>>> considering the crucial point at which we are. Almost no FIWARE GEri >>>> has passed the tests for the local installation of the software using >>>> available installation and admin guides. >>>> >>>> Please try to arrive with an analysis of the status of GEris in your >>>> chapter. >>>> >>>> Besides the implementation of immediate remediate action that can >>>> only >>>> be taken by each owner of FIWARE GEris, we would like to propose an >>>> overall 3% of cut on the budget/funding of partners to fund the >>>> subcontracting for aprox. 600 K? of some organization(s) that can >>>> handle >>>> the testing of manuals and tutorials linked to each GEri. Based on >>>> the >>>> experience from the previous phase (FI-WARE project) and the recent >>>> assessment nows look evident that we cannot continue like this, >>>> trusting >>>> on the internal QA procedures of partners as we had done in the past. >>>> >>>> Due to the inherent technical nature of the matter, FIWARE >>>> Architecture Chapter Leaders are also requested to join. >>>> >>>> Other topics will be covered if there is time during the allocated >>>> slot, from 14:30 to 16:00. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> -- Juanjo >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: FIWARE: Rubio report - IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED >>>> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:42:16 +0000 >>>> From: >>>> To: >>>> , >>>> >>>> >>>> CC: , >>>> , >>>> , >>>> , >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> (with apologies for the long email. Please read all) >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Juanjo, Stefano, >>>> >>>> We have received the FI-WARE Generic Enabler Assessment report by >>>> Daniel >>>> Rubio (attached). The report presents an assessment of the ease of >>>> getting started, i.e. downloading and installing the GEs or using >>>> FI-Lab, rather than an assessment of the actual functionality of the >>>> GEs. In other words, it assesses the FI-WARE GE implementations from a >>>> third party point of view; any phase 3 subgrantee could and would have >>>> similar experiences. >>>> >>>> Just like the previous report by Lutz Schubert one year ago and the >>>> Engineering report from April 2014, the Rubio report highlights several >>>> issues that question the readiness of FI-WARE GEis for take-up in the >>>> FI-PPP phase 3. A summary of the main Rubio findings is as follows: >>>> >>>> >>>> ? Documentation >>>> >>>> o The documentation is often not updated or refers to GEi versions >>>> that are no longer available. >>>> >>>> o The documentation fails, in most cases, in explaining how to >>>> install >>>> the dependencies and libraries or other software the GEi needs to work >>>> correctly. >>>> >>>> o There are big differences in documentation. Installation guides >>>> follow different writing styles and enter into different levels of >>>> detail. >>>> >>>> ? Installation >>>> >>>> o In many cases the download section or the download links in the >>>> installation documentation are broken so the software cannot be >>>> downloaded. In other cases, no stable version is offered and there is >>>> only the possibility to download a source code snapshot from the >>>> development repository. >>>> >>>> o No common installation approach is given. Some GEis come with a >>>> clean automatic installation procedure while others have a tedious long >>>> manual installation which is almost impossible to revert and that might >>>> break other software on the system. >>>> >>>> o Of those GEis that use scripts for installation, the scripts are >>>> often only working on very specific system configurations and are not >>>> able to automatically install the dependencies. >>>> >>>> o Many of the GEis require a very specific system to work, and are >>>> not >>>> able to install or run if it is slightly changed. Sometimes the >>>> required >>>> system is old and no longer supported with security updates. >>>> >>>> ? FI-Lab >>>> >>>> o Documentation is poor and needs an introduction presenting the aim >>>> and purpose of the platform, so that newcomers can clearly understand >>>> for what purpose they can use FI-Lab and what they can expect. >>>> >>>> o Several open source example applications must be included. They >>>> must >>>> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >>>> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >>>> applications and compile them. These applications should be coded and >>>> documented by other people than the developers of the Generic Enablers. >>>> >>>> o A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users where >>>> everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, share >>>> experiences, improve applications, etc. People would be more >>>> inclined to >>>> use the forum than (for instance) the helpdesk if a large, responsive >>>> and knowledgeable community is active. >>>> >>>> o For each section, it should be possible for newcomers to understand >>>> their aim and capabilities via a ?quick start guide? or tutorial >>>> followed by a set of references for the user to continue learning >>>> how to >>>> use the platform. Most of the information is not organized and is >>>> difficult to find. >>>> >>>> o There is a need for more tutorials that build on each other to >>>> teach >>>> the users to build complex applications from scratch. >>>> >>>> o The documentation (and videos) should be maintained accordingly >>>> with >>>> the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or the user >>>> interface >>>> of the platform should be reflected in the documentation. >>>> >>>> Third parties are looking at FIWARE right now. They will encounter the >>>> same issues as Daniel Rubio. They will leave and never come back. >>>> >>>> Urgent action is necessary now. >>>> >>>> Therefore, the following is necessary: >>>> >>>> >>>> * Documentation: hire external professional documentation writers >>>> for making user-friendly installation (and user) guides. Such >>>> professionals must be present in the consortium's partners, but the >>>> people involved in the project will not have the authority to include >>>> them, certainly not on short notice. Therefore, subcontracting is the >>>> only option. >>>> * Documentation writers must be closely working with the >>>> developers to guarantee that the latest GEi versions are used. >>>> * For easy uptake the documentation needs to be complete and >>>> fully comprehensive; it should be clear, give a uniform level of detail >>>> within the same GEi and across all GEis, not skipping installation >>>> steps >>>> and making sure that it is updated accordingly to the software versions >>>> available for download. >>>> * Installation: hire external professional testers for testing the >>>> dependencies, libraries or other software the GEis need to work. They >>>> should work with the developers (who implicitly know dependencies), >>>> test/develop installation scripts, and support the documentation >>>> writers >>>> * Installations must be automated to a maximum degree, using >>>> the >>>> Operating System repositories for resolving dependencies, when >>>> possible, >>>> or giving extensions to repositories including in them all the >>>> necessary >>>> extra dependencies as this would lead to clean, fast and easy >>>> installations. The installation mechanisms, as well as the >>>> documentation, should be tested in clean environments to be able to >>>> correctly determine if the installation packages or scripts work >>>> correctly and resolve the installation of dependencies. >>>> * The GEis must be able to be integrated into existing >>>> frameworks, making them integrate as smoothly as possible and they must >>>> be configurable for a wide range of existing system setups. Users >>>> should >>>> not be forced to use a specific software platform, in particular when >>>> that platform is already obsolete and unsupported. >>>> * Fix the download section or the broken download links in the >>>> installation documentation. >>>> * Offer a stable version for download, not a source code >>>> snapshot >>>> from the development repository. >>>> * Create a FIWARE forum with a community of users of FIWARE where >>>> everybody developing and using FIWARE technologies can join and resolve >>>> problems, share GEis installation and configuration experiences, etc. >>>> The forum would also allow FI-WARE developers to identify where users >>>> have problems and take actions to solve them. This is part of FI-Core >>>> activities. >>>> * FI-Lab >>>> * The same as for documentation above applies to FI-Lab, and is >>>> especially relevant related to ?quick start guides?, tutorials, >>>> training >>>> guidance. The documentation (and videos) should be maintained >>>> accordingly with the platform updates. Changes in the functionality or >>>> the user interface of the platform should be reflected in the >>>> documentation. >>>> * Create several open source example applications. People will >>>> not start from scratch but will modify an example. These examples must >>>> be very well documented and the documentation needs to explain how to >>>> make these applications. Newcomers should be able to use these >>>> applications and compile them. >>>> * A FI-Lab forum must be created with a wide community of users >>>> where everybody developing with FI-Lab can join and resolve problems, >>>> share experiences, improve applications, etc. >>>> * Clean the Catalogue from GEis that require unsupported Operating >>>> Systems or port these GEis to newer OS versions. >>>> >>>> >>>> Maximum priority to solve the above problems must be given now, >>>> whatever >>>> resources are needed. In no other time in the life of the project have >>>> we been confronted with a higher need for immediate action. The >>>> credibility of FIWARE and the success of the whole FI-PPP phase 3 >>>> are at >>>> risk. Today more than 150 proposals are being submitted to the >>>> accelerators; they should not face the problems stated in the Rubio >>>> report. >>>> >>>> These issues must be solved with maximum urgency. >>>> >>>> We like to discuss this with you on Tuesday Sept 30, in the morning. >>>> Please let me know your availability. If necessary, please clear your >>>> agenda. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Arian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su >>>> destinatario, >>>> puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso >>>> exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el >>>> destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, >>>> divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud >>>> de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le >>>> rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y >>>> proceda >>>> a su destrucci?n. >>>> >>>> The information contained in this transmission is privileged and >>>> confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or >>>> entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended >>>> recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution >>>> or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >>>> received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately >>>> reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error >>>> and then delete it. >>>> >>>> Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu >>>> destinat?rio, pode conter informa??o privilegiada ou confidencial e ? >>>> para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se n?o ? vossa >>>> senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, >>>> utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar >>>> proibida em >>>> virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, >>>> rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e >>>> proceda a sua destrui??o >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Torsten Spieldenner, M.Sc. >>>> >>>> Tel.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 77 48 >>>> Fax.: +49 6 81 / 8 57 75 - 22 35 >>>> >>>> Internet: http://www.dfki.de/web/forschung/asr/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH >>>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany >>>> >>>> Geschaeftsfuehrung: >>>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) >>>> Dr. Walter Olthoff >>>> >>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: >>>> Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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Bye Felix On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Sami J wrote: > Thanks Erno, > used time pretty much depend amount of the available presentations. Friday > morning presentation session from WebUI part is divided to 2 separate > slots, coffee break will be held between presentations. 1st slot is > ~2hours, second bit over 1 hour. So if we have e.g. 6 presentations for the > morning, we are able to use max ~30minutes per presentation. Most likely > presentation length will vary depending subject of the presentation, but > I'd estimate that 15-30 minutes will be used for each slideset. > > Regards, > Sami > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erno Kuusela wrote: > >> Our 3D UI presentation is coming along here, still under construction: >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10quTPTdoMWls_AGoXfgYhsMiWt96RP0dHHffwCcmFnY/edit#slide=id.p22 >> >> How much time approximately do you have use per presentation? >> >> Erno >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> > > > > -- > Sami Jylkk? > Software Designer > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without > producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Mon Sep 29 18:38:46 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 18:38:46 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] StartupWeekend-Event in Hamburg Message-ID: <54298B16.6070202@dfki.de> Hi, I finally reached the organizer of the Hamburg event. Everything is on track. They have about 50 people for the presentations (which they organize seperately) and about 100 for the weekend (which apparently starts already Friday there, but mostly with presentations). So, Lea: Please go ahead with booking the flights. Apparently they have very high profile people coming and so this should be a very interesting event for us. One thing is that we need to convice them that our technology will be available long-term and be well supported. There are apparently many rumors that many GEs and particular SEs will not be really be available. He are especially interested in learning about projects wher ethe technology is already being used and what the way forward is. The same is probably true also for the other locations. So we should all add some slides with that in mind. Stefan: Can you put together a few slides summarizing how FI-Content is building on top of the GEs and how they are being used. Klaus, Silke: Can you do the same for FITMAN? I will try to put together some slides that give a general overview then. Felix/Lea: Can we allocate a slot on Wednesday morning to go through the political aspects, since there will apparently many questions in this regard. 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Some questions: - Is POI spec based on some public standard? If it is, it could be mentioned in the presentation - What POI GE offers in practice in component level? E.g. is server implementation for POI handling part of the POI GE delivery? POI syntax is very well described in the document - Links are not working - Formatting in some pages is broken - Could fi-ware template be integrated to the presentation? -Sami On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ari Okkonen CIE wrote: > The POI presentation with lecturer notes is available in > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Z3i_F1BFtzqKNRsmToBwby3c0KLwZzRWus > asvBu7n7A/edit?usp=sharing > > BR > Ari > > -- > Ari Okkonen > CIE, University of Oulu > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- Sami Jylkk? Software Designer Cyberlightning Ltd. Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! www.cyberlightning.com This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Tue Sep 30 12:11:58 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:11:58 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] POI presentation for the StartupWeekend In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <542A63CF.2090206@cie.fi> Message-ID: <542A81EE.3060106@dfki.de> Hi, Thanks Sami. We should actually each review all the slides of the others. This helps familiarize oneself with the content, so others can present it as needed. It also helps in ironing out issues that probably listeners/readers would have before we even get there. We had thought of doing a joint presentation but I do not see this happing given the time constraint. This approach is the best approximation of that I can think of. Also , feel free to setup calls among each others of with the group to discuss specific issues such as how to best present the slides. Thanks a lot, Philipp Am 30.09.2014 um 11:25 schrieb Sami J: > Thanks Ari, > very good that you did add presentation notes, it is easier to get familiar > with the material! > > Some questions: > > - Is POI spec based on some public standard? If it is, it could be > mentioned in the presentation > - What POI GE offers in practice in component level? E.g. is server > implementation for POI handling part of the POI GE delivery? POI syntax is > very well described in the document > - Links are not working > - Formatting in some pages is broken > - Could fi-ware template be integrated to the presentation? > > -Sami > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ari Okkonen CIE > wrote: > >> The POI presentation with lecturer notes is available in >> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Z3i_F1BFtzqKNRsmToBwby3c0KLwZzRWus >> asvBu7n7A/edit?usp=sharing >> >> BR >> Ari >> >> -- >> Ari Okkonen >> CIE, University of Oulu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: philipp_slusallek.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Tue Sep 30 12:37:39 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:37:39 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] POI presentation for the StartupWeekend In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <542A63CF.2090206@cie.fi> Message-ID: <542A87F3.6030707@cie.fi> Thank you for your comments. :-) Some answers: - POI spec has been created by first reading several used and proposed POI specifications, thinking what's right and what's wrong with them, and then creating an original design. Modularity and distributability are original ideas. - You can clone the POI GE as such in FI-LAB, or you can clone the server sources from Git-hub and tailor it to your needs. The links should be found from the http://catalogue.fi-ware.org/ . This presentation is not about modifying the server. - I updated the links. - I corrected the formatting. - How critical is the use of the theme template (they seldom make the presentation more readable)? Where could I find one? (I guess you noticed that choosing -*Present*-menu*-> Present with speaker notes* - shows two windows. One large image for the projector and a smaller one with speaker notes and timer for the presenter.) BR Ari On 2014-09-30 12:25, Sami J wrote: > Thanks Ari, > very good that you did add presentation notes, it is easier to get > familiar with the material! > > Some questions: > > - Is POI spec based on some public standard? If it is, it could be > mentioned in the presentation > - What POI GE offers in practice in component level? E.g. is server > implementation for POI handling part of the POI GE delivery? POI > syntax is very well described in the document > - Links are not working > - Formatting in some pages is broken > - Could fi-ware template be integrated to the presentation? > > -Sami > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ari Okkonen CIE > wrote: > > The POI presentation with lecturer notes is available in > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Z3i_F1BFtzqKNRsmToBwby3c0KLwZzRWusasvBu7n7A/edit?usp=sharing > > BR > Ari > > -- > Ari Okkonen > CIE, University of Oulu > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > Sami Jylkk? > Software Designer > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your > presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system > without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipp.slusallek at dfki.de Tue Sep 30 12:48:31 2014 From: philipp.slusallek at dfki.de (Philipp Slusallek) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:48:31 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] POI presentation for the StartupWeekend In-Reply-To: <542A87F3.6030707@cie.fi> References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <542A63CF.2090206@cie.fi> <542A87F3.6030707@cie.fi> Message-ID: <542A8A7F.4060003@dfki.de> Hi, Can you please include felix in your email regarding the SW, please. he has to present your thing in Hamburg (Stefan is now joining him actually). Best, Philipp Am 30.09.2014 um 12:37 schrieb Ari Okkonen CIE: > Thank you for your comments. :-) > > Some answers: > > - POI spec has been created by first reading several used and proposed > POI specifications, thinking what's right and what's wrong with them, > and then creating an original design. Modularity and distributability > are original ideas. > - You can clone the POI GE as such in FI-LAB, or you can clone the > server sources from Git-hub and tailor it to your needs. The links > should be found from the http://catalogue.fi-ware.org/ . This > presentation is not about modifying the server. > - I updated the links. > - I corrected the formatting. > - How critical is the use of the theme template (they seldom make the > presentation more readable)? Where could I find one? > > (I guess you noticed that choosing -*Present*-menu*-> Present with > speaker notes* - shows two windows. One large image for the projector > and a smaller one with speaker notes and timer for the presenter.) > BR > Ari > > On 2014-09-30 12:25, Sami J wrote: >> Thanks Ari, >> very good that you did add presentation notes, it is easier to get >> familiar with the material! >> >> Some questions: >> >> - Is POI spec based on some public standard? If it is, it could be >> mentioned in the presentation >> - What POI GE offers in practice in component level? E.g. is server >> implementation for POI handling part of the POI GE delivery? POI >> syntax is very well described in the document >> - Links are not working >> - Formatting in some pages is broken >> - Could fi-ware template be integrated to the presentation? >> >> -Sami >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ari Okkonen CIE > > wrote: >> >> The POI presentation with lecturer notes is available in >> >> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Z3i_F1BFtzqKNRsmToBwby3c0KLwZzRWusasvBu7n7A/edit?usp=sharing >> >> >> BR >> Ari >> >> -- Ari Okkonen >> CIE, University of Oulu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sami Jylkk? >> Software Designer >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your >> presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system >> without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Sitz der Gesellschaft: Kaiserslautern (HRB 2313) USt-Id.Nr.: DE 148646973, Steuernummer: 19/673/0060/3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Modularity and distributability >> are original ideas. >> - You can clone the POI GE as such in FI-LAB, or you can clone the >> server sources from Git-hub and tailor it to your needs. The links >> should be found from the http://catalogue.fi-ware.org/ . This >> presentation is not about modifying the server. >> - I updated the links. >> - I corrected the formatting. >> - How critical is the use of the theme template (they seldom make the >> presentation more readable)? Where could I find one? >> >> (I guess you noticed that choosing -*Present*-menu*-> Present with >> speaker notes* - shows two windows. One large image for the projector >> and a smaller one with speaker notes and timer for the presenter.) >> BR >> Ari >> >> On 2014-09-30 12:25, Sami J wrote: >>> Thanks Ari, >>> very good that you did add presentation notes, it is easier to get >>> familiar with the material! >>> >>> Some questions: >>> >>> - Is POI spec based on some public standard? If it is, it could be >>> mentioned in the presentation >>> - What POI GE offers in practice in component level? E.g. is server >>> implementation for POI handling part of the POI GE delivery? POI >>> syntax is very well described in the document >>> - Links are not working >>> - Formatting in some pages is broken >>> - Could fi-ware template be integrated to the presentation? >>> >>> -Sami >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ari Okkonen CIE >> > wrote: >>> >>> The POI presentation with lecturer notes is available in >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Z3i_F1BFtzqKNRsmToBwby3c0KLwZzRWusasvBu7n7A/edit?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> BR >>> Ari >>> >>> -- Ari Okkonen >>> CIE, University of Oulu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sami Jylkk? >>> Software Designer >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your >>> presentations! >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >>> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system >>> without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-miwi mailing list >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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So I think we are on a good track with setting up event presentations br, Sami On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Philipp Slusallek < philipp.slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks Sami. We should actually each review all the slides of the > others. This helps familiarize oneself with the content, so others can > present it as needed. It also helps in ironing out issues that probably > listeners/readers would have before we even get there. > > We had thought of doing a joint presentation but I do not see this > happing given the time constraint. This approach is the best > approximation of that I can think of. Also , feel free to setup calls > among each others of with the group to discuss specific issues such as > how to best present the slides. > > > Thanks a lot, > > Philipp > > > Am 30.09.2014 um 11:25 schrieb Sami J: > > Thanks Ari, > > very good that you did add presentation notes, it is easier to get > familiar > > with the material! > > > > Some questions: > > > > - Is POI spec based on some public standard? If it is, it could be > > mentioned in the presentation > > - What POI GE offers in practice in component level? E.g. is server > > implementation for POI handling part of the POI GE delivery? POI syntax > is > > very well described in the document > > - Links are not working > > - Formatting in some pages is broken > > - Could fi-ware template be integrated to the presentation? > > > > -Sami > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ari Okkonen CIE > > wrote: > > > >> The POI presentation with lecturer notes is available in > >> > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Z3i_F1BFtzqKNRsmToBwby3c0KLwZzRWus > >> asvBu7n7A/edit?usp=sharing > >> > >> BR > >> Ari > >> > >> -- > >> Ari Okkonen > >> CIE, University of Oulu > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fiware-miwi mailing list > >> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > >> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fiware-miwi mailing list > > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deutsches Forschungszentrum f?r K?nstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > > Gesch?ftsf?hrung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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URL: From sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com Tue Sep 30 15:10:21 2014 From: sami.jylkka at cyberlightning.com (Sami J) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:10:21 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <20140929124422.GA8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: Hi, both GIS and RvI presentations now have demo links and backup pictures of the demos (if live fails), so these are almost final versions. Some fine tuning might occur. Comments are welcome! GIS https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1Ef96K41etIK8cqquQAo1zZSNeWb03xWqIJIgr9YNr7c Real virtual Interaction *https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1oDM1vBM09l-Zu4snHYXkwO4lAwydqkFqo5wIqSqbJBI/ * Cheers, Sami & Juha On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Felix Klein wrote: > Hi there, > > I did not quite finish the slide set for our 3D-UI GE, but here's the > current state: > > http://xml3d.org/xml3d/slides/startup-weekend/ > > Please view in Chrome or Firefox. > > I'll extend the "Hands on" section to only feature some Xflow examples. > Please note that on some of the slides feature interactive code panels > where the presenter is supposed to show how the 3D scene changes when > modifying the XML3D code. > I will also provide a small script as to what exactly can be demonstrated > in these segments. > > Bye > > Felix > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Sami J > wrote: > >> Thanks Erno, >> used time pretty much depend amount of the available presentations. >> Friday morning presentation session from WebUI part is divided to 2 >> separate slots, coffee break will be held between presentations. 1st slot >> is ~2hours, second bit over 1 hour. So if we have e.g. 6 presentations for >> the morning, we are able to use max ~30minutes per presentation. Most >> likely presentation length will vary depending subject of the presentation, >> but I'd estimate that 15-30 minutes will be used for each slideset. >> >> Regards, >> Sami >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erno Kuusela wrote: >> >>> Our 3D UI presentation is coming along here, still under construction: >>> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10quTPTdoMWls_AGoXfgYhsMiWt96RP0dHHffwCcmFnY/edit#slide=id.p22 >>> >>> How much time approximately do you have use per presentation? >>> >>> Erno >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sami Jylkk? >> Software Designer >> Cyberlightning Ltd. >> >> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >> >> www.cyberlightning.com >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >> legally privileged information. 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URL: From lachsen at cg.uni-saarland.de Tue Sep 30 17:58:21 2014 From: lachsen at cg.uni-saarland.de (Felix Klein) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:58:21 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <20140929124422.GA8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: Hello again, I updated the XML3D slides: http://xml3d.org/xml3d/slides/startup-weekend/ There is more content, like a list of applications and Xflow examples. Some of the content might still be changed or removed tomorrow, but that's roughly the content for this presentation. I also added *presenter notes* for each slide. You can see the nodes by pressing the 's' key. A popup will appear with a presenterview of the slideset. This view will include the notes for each slide. You can also read the nodes in the HTML source code (if you prefer that). Bye Felix On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Sami J wrote: > Hi, > both GIS and RvI presentations now have demo links and backup pictures of > the demos (if live fails), so these are almost final versions. Some fine > tuning might occur. > Comments are welcome! > > GIS > > https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1Ef96K41etIK8cqquQAo1zZSNeWb03xWqIJIgr9YNr7c > > Real virtual Interaction > *https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1oDM1vBM09l-Zu4snHYXkwO4lAwydqkFqo5wIqSqbJBI/ > * > > Cheers, > Sami & Juha > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Felix Klein > wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I did not quite finish the slide set for our 3D-UI GE, but here's the >> current state: >> >> http://xml3d.org/xml3d/slides/startup-weekend/ >> >> Please view in Chrome or Firefox. >> >> I'll extend the "Hands on" section to only feature some Xflow examples. >> Please note that on some of the slides feature interactive code panels >> where the presenter is supposed to show how the 3D scene changes when >> modifying the XML3D code. >> I will also provide a small script as to what exactly can be demonstrated >> in these segments. >> >> Bye >> >> Felix >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Sami J >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Erno, >>> used time pretty much depend amount of the available presentations. >>> Friday morning presentation session from WebUI part is divided to 2 >>> separate slots, coffee break will be held between presentations. 1st slot >>> is ~2hours, second bit over 1 hour. So if we have e.g. 6 presentations for >>> the morning, we are able to use max ~30minutes per presentation. Most >>> likely presentation length will vary depending subject of the presentation, >>> but I'd estimate that 15-30 minutes will be used for each slideset. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sami >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erno Kuusela wrote: >>> >>>> Our 3D UI presentation is coming along here, still under construction: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10quTPTdoMWls_AGoXfgYhsMiWt96RP0dHHffwCcmFnY/edit#slide=id.p22 >>>> >>>> How much time approximately do you have use per presentation? >>>> >>>> Erno >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sami Jylkk? >>> Software Designer >>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>> >>> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >>> >>> www.cyberlightning.com >>> >>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >>> legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without >>> producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Sami Jylkk? > Software Designer > Cyberlightning Ltd. > > Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! > > www.cyberlightning.com > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain > legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without > producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lachsen at cg.uni-saarland.de Tue Sep 30 18:17:21 2014 From: lachsen at cg.uni-saarland.de (Felix Klein) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:17:21 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] Minutes of the StartupWeekend-Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <54227BB1.1050504@dfki.de> <20140929124422.GA8543@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: Hey, I currently don't have access to the GIS and RvL Slide Sets. Can somebody give me permission? Bye Felix On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Felix Klein wrote: > Hello again, > > I updated the XML3D slides: > http://xml3d.org/xml3d/slides/startup-weekend/ > > There is more content, like a list of applications and Xflow examples. > Some of the content might still be changed or removed tomorrow, but that's > roughly the content for this presentation. > > I also added *presenter notes* for each slide. > You can see the nodes by pressing the 's' key. A popup will appear with a > presenterview of the slideset. This view will include the notes for each > slide. > You can also read the nodes in the HTML source code (if you prefer that). > > Bye > > Felix > > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Sami J > wrote: > >> Hi, >> both GIS and RvI presentations now have demo links and backup pictures of >> the demos (if live fails), so these are almost final versions. Some fine >> tuning might occur. >> Comments are welcome! >> >> GIS >> >> https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1Ef96K41etIK8cqquQAo1zZSNeWb03xWqIJIgr9YNr7c >> >> Real virtual Interaction >> *https://docs.google.com/a/cyberlightning.com/presentation/d/1oDM1vBM09l-Zu4snHYXkwO4lAwydqkFqo5wIqSqbJBI/ >> * >> >> Cheers, >> Sami & Juha >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Felix Klein >> wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I did not quite finish the slide set for our 3D-UI GE, but here's the >>> current state: >>> >>> http://xml3d.org/xml3d/slides/startup-weekend/ >>> >>> Please view in Chrome or Firefox. >>> >>> I'll extend the "Hands on" section to only feature some Xflow examples. >>> Please note that on some of the slides feature interactive code panels >>> where the presenter is supposed to show how the 3D scene changes when >>> modifying the XML3D code. >>> I will also provide a small script as to what exactly can be >>> demonstrated in these segments. >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> Felix >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Sami J >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Erno, >>>> used time pretty much depend amount of the available presentations. >>>> Friday morning presentation session from WebUI part is divided to 2 >>>> separate slots, coffee break will be held between presentations. 1st slot >>>> is ~2hours, second bit over 1 hour. So if we have e.g. 6 presentations for >>>> the morning, we are able to use max ~30minutes per presentation. Most >>>> likely presentation length will vary depending subject of the presentation, >>>> but I'd estimate that 15-30 minutes will be used for each slideset. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sami >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erno Kuusela >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Our 3D UI presentation is coming along here, still under construction: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10quTPTdoMWls_AGoXfgYhsMiWt96RP0dHHffwCcmFnY/edit#slide=id.p22 >>>>> >>>>> How much time approximately do you have use per presentation? >>>>> >>>>> Erno >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org >>>>> https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sami Jylkk? >>>> Software Designer >>>> Cyberlightning Ltd. >>>> >>>> Go to www.cybersli.de and enrich your presentations! >>>> >>>> www.cyberlightning.com >>>> >>>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain >>>> legally privileged information. 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URL: From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Tue Sep 30 19:36:28 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:36:28 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] AR GE Introduction training material added In-Reply-To: <6CE8B62B-8221-4AAE-B039-2D86D98EC939@zhaw.ch> References: <6CE8B62B-8221-4AAE-B039-2D86D98EC939@zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <542AEA1C.8010605@cie.fi> Hi, I published training material for Augmented Reality Generic enabler. http://edu.fi-ware.org/course/view.php?id=98 BR Ari -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu From ari.okkonen at cie.fi Tue Sep 30 19:38:28 2014 From: ari.okkonen at cie.fi (Ari Okkonen CIE) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:38:28 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-miwi] POI and AR should be OK now Message-ID: <542AEA94.7060103@cie.fi> Hi I think AR and POI generic enablers are closed and OK now. BR Ari -- Ari Okkonen CIE, University of Oulu