[Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Fermín Galán Márquez fermin at tid.es
Thu Dec 12 14:06:58 CET 2013


Dear Thierry,

Yes, we have processes for validating documents, software, etc. but, as far as I understand, they apply only to official deliverables to EC. In this case, we are talking about something very different: a .doc file living in a public SVN.

Regarding validation, considering the current case for the issue discussed in this thread: each GEi owner involved has validated agreeing in that the change is ok in a matter of days.

Best regards,

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Fermín

El 12/12/2013 13:07, thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com> escribió:
Hi Fermin

If we publish document for everybody, we will publish again only when we are sure that changes are validated by all GEis owners impacted by some changes, and that the changes are correctly implemented.
Telefonica put in place some processes to validate documentation, software deliveries, catalogue publications, so we will follow some rules to publish documents with the relevant quality and not putting us in any trouble.

BR
Thierry

De : Fermín Galán Márquez [mailto:fermin at tid.es]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 12:56
À : NAGELLEN Thierry IMT/OLPS
Cc : Rolando Sergio (Guest); Tobias Jacobs; fiware-ngsi at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-ngsi at lists.fi-ware.eu>
Objet : Re: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Dear Therry,

"Providing a new version each month is too much"

Why is too much? Maybe I'm missign someghing but is a matter of editing the particular section in the .doc and commit to SVN.

Best regards,

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Fermín

El 12/12/2013 11:56, thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com> escribió:
Hi all

Just a point to clarify: we want to publish for 3rd parties a frozen version, not to stop the work between partners after this frozen version. Providing a new version each month is too much but for sure we will publish a new one in April (currently official last month of the project).

So keep the last actions for January internal sprint and we will release the binding in April 2014.

BR
Thierry

De : fiware-ngsi-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-ngsi-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-ngsi-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Rolando Sergio (Guest)
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 11:49
À : Fermín Galán Márquez; Tobias Jacobs
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Objet : Re: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Hi all,
Since the release date is tomorrow (I have already closed "my" TI PubSub CB), I think it would be better not to include this modification right now, it could be OK starting from January sprint.

Best regards,
Sergio

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From: Fermín Galán Márquez [mailto:fermin at tid.es]
Sent: giovedì 12 dicembre 2013 11.39
To: Tobias Jacobs; Rolando Sergio (Guest)
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Subject: Re: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Dear Tobias,

It depends when will be that "next release"... we wouldn't like to defer this too much. In this sense, if this change is implemented in January sprint (we should work in "Agile mode", thus including modification to the spec from month to month, if needed), is ok with us not including it in the bunch to be released tomorrow.

BTW, there are other modifications that we plan to suggest to include. But let's go step by step.

Best regards,

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Fermín

El 12/12/2013 11:32, Tobias Jacobs escribió:
Dear all,
Are we sure that we want to unify updateContextElementRequest and appendContextElementRequest in this release?
It makes technically sense, but it would make the current implementations of several partners suddenly incompatible with the public binding shortly before the review.
The other improvements that were suggested are backwards-compatible, but this one is not.
Any opinions?
Best regards
Tobias

From: Fermín Galán Márquez [mailto:fermin at tid.es]
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013 15:47
To: Tobias Jacobs; Rolando Sergio (Guest)
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Subject: Re: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Dear Tobias, Sergio,

Using updateContextElementRequest as unique name is also fine with us (TID).

Best regards,

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Fermín

El 10/12/2013 14:17, Tobias Jacobs escribió:
Fine with me; and backwards compatibility is a good point!


-          Tobias

From: Rolando Sergio (Guest) [mailto:sergio.rolando at guest.telecomitalia.it]
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013 14:14
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Subject: RE: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Hi Tobias, hi Fermin,
I'd suggest using the unique name "updateContextElementRequest" improving backward compatibility, since also other words would not be better ("modify..." means a sort of "update", and it does not seem to suit "append" operations, or at least... not better than "update" itself).
Best regards,
Sergio

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Subject: Re: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Hi Fermin,

Yes, that makes sense to me.
Best
Tobias

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Subject: [Fiware-ngsi] NGSI10 binding sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1: identical structs

Hi,

We have found that the data structs described in NGSI10 binding document sections 3.1.2.1 and 3.1.3.1 ( updateContextElementRequest and appendContextElementRequest) are exactly equal. Thus, we suggest to have only one (probably with a different and "neutral" name, such modifyContextElementResponse).

What do you think?

Best regards,

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Fermín
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