[Fiware-oasc-etsi] TR: Updated figure and question about status

[Mulligan, Catherine E A]

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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:55 PM +0200, "Franck Le Gall" <franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com<mailto:franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com>> wrote:

Dear ISG CIM supporters,

I understand from Hermann’s e.mail that he is awaiting feedback from us on their proposed changes. Also, I still see some comments in the ‘clean’ version. It is not clear form me if they have been tackeld or not.

Are we OK as it is, should we suggest changes or having a telco together (this week? ) to review their proposed changes ?

Thank you
Franck

De : Hermann Brand [mailto:Hermann.Brand at etsi.org]
Envoyé : vendredi 22 juillet 2016 18:55
À : Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>; Franck Le Gall <franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com>; David Boswarthick <David.Boswarthick at etsi.org>; CARLOS RALLI UCENDO <carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com>; Philippe Cousin <philippe.cousin at eglobalmark.com>; Ernoe Kovacs <Ernoe.Kovacs at neclab.eu>; Mulligan, Catherine E A <c.mulligan at imperial.ac.uk>; gilles.privat at orange.com; Patrick Guillemin <Patrick.Guillemin at etsi.org>
Objet : RE: Updated figure and question about status

Dear Juanjo,
Dear all,

Please find the revised ISG CIM proposal attached (clean version and with revision marks).

The major changes are as follows

1)      2 phases approach (informative and normative) as discussed in combined f2f/electronic meeting last week

2)      Separate ‘what’ from ‘how’ in the scope description, tried to push everything solution oriented to the last section presenting it as close collaboration and reuse of what exists in order to avoid duplication of work

3)      Shortened rationale and the EU policy context separated

Some text is marked in yellow. Please have a look whether what is there is acceptable.

As for the roadmap until the kick-off meeting: yes, you are right that a Board consultation by correspondence is possible. However, in yesterday’s meeting with Luis it was deemed inappropriate to go for a consultation by correspondence during the holiday season when many are not in the office. Another reason was to have some time to get in touch with Omar and Enrico beforehand, in order to resolve comments as early as possible. This should help to avoid or at least to limit contentious discussions during Board consultation.

Please have a look whether the draft is acceptable. There is certainly some more room for improvements.

Best regards,
Hermann
PS: I will be on holidays next week. David is in the  office. Let’s touch base early in August to get ready to interact with Oman/Enrico.

From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com]
Sent: 22 July 2016 7:03 AM
To: Hermann Brand <Hermann.Brand at etsi.org<mailto:Hermann.Brand at etsi.org>>; franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com<mailto:franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com>; David Boswarthick <David.Boswarthick at etsi.org<mailto:David.Boswarthick at etsi.org>>; CARLOS RALLI UCENDO <carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com<mailto:carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com>>; Philippe Cousin <philippe.cousin at eglobalmark.com<mailto:philippe.cousin at eglobalmark.com>>; Ernoe Kovacs <Ernoe.Kovacs at neclab.eu<mailto:Ernoe.Kovacs at neclab.eu>>; Mulligan, Catherine E A <c.mulligan at imperial.ac.uk<mailto:c.mulligan at imperial.ac.uk>>; gilles.privat at orange.com<mailto:gilles.privat at orange.com>; Patrick Guillemin <Patrick.Guillemin at etsi.org<mailto:Patrick.Guillemin at etsi.org>>
Cc: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com<mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>>
Subject: Re: Updated figure and question about status




On 21/07/16 20:06, Hermann Brand wrote:
Thank you Juanjo.

I noted ‘mediation GW’. Please find some editorial changes in the attachment.

  Those changes are fine.  Thanks.


I’ll send the full updated proposal document tomorrow late afternoon (will meet David tomorrow again, Patrick is on holidays).

  That would be great!


We (David and myself) had a meeting with Luis today to clarify the next steps …


1)      Luis wants to submit the CIM proposal to the Board for consultation timely enough to have a final discussion in the upcoming Board#109 on 14/15 September (submission in the second half of August, at least in week 34).

  Does this mean to delay the kick-off so it wouldn't be able to take place in September as planned?  This comes as a surprise to me because I remember that, since the first time we discussed about creation of the ISG, it was always explained to us that approval of ISGs didn't require running a discussion during a ETSI Board f2f meeting ... honestly, I feel frustrated.

  If there is no other mean but closing the discussion at the ETSI Board f2f meeting on the 14-15 of September, and there is also a requirement to announce the kick-off of the ISG one month in advance, we would kindly ask that things are arranged so that we can announce the kick-off of the ISG immediately after the ETSI board f2f meeting, ideally the same September 15th or 16th.   This would allow to minimize the delay from the target date.  If you know about another mean to announce a kick-off date even earlier, please let us know.


2)      In order to ensure a ‘smooth’ consultation as much as possible, we recommend to share the proposal with the chairmen of SmartM2M (Enrico) and oneM2M (Omar) before it is submitted to the Board. This would allow to clarify issues beforehand. If you – the founding members – agree, we –the Secretariat – would on behalf of you, the founding members send the proposal to Enrico and Omar.

  That is fine for me, so unless someone else raises any objection, please go ahead.   Please do so putting in copy the rest of the team representing Orange (Gilles), NEC (Ernoe), EGM (Franck), Telefónica (Carlos and me) and OASC (Cathy).  This way, we can answer any question they may have.

  Best regards,

-- Juanjo


That’s all for today…

Best regards,
Hermann



From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com]
Sent: 21 July 2016 7:51 AM
To: franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com<mailto:franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com>; David Boswarthick <David.Boswarthick at etsi.org><mailto:David.Boswarthick at etsi.org>; CARLOS RALLI UCENDO <carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com><mailto:carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com>; Hermann Brand <Hermann.Brand at etsi.org><mailto:Hermann.Brand at etsi.org>; Philippe Cousin <philippe.cousin at eglobalmark.com><mailto:philippe.cousin at eglobalmark.com>; Ernoe Kovacs <Ernoe.Kovacs at neclab.eu><mailto:Ernoe.Kovacs at neclab.eu>; Mulligan, Catherine E A <c.mulligan at imperial.ac.uk><mailto:c.mulligan at imperial.ac.uk>; gilles.privat at orange.com<mailto:gilles.privat at orange.com>; Patrick Guillemin <Patrick.Guillemin at etsi.org><mailto:Patrick.Guillemin at etsi.org>
Cc: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com><mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com>
Subject: Updated figure and question about status


Dear Hermann, Patrick,

  Please find enclosed a powerpoint file with the figure to incorporate in the updated version of the ToR.

  I don't remember whether we finally agree to replace "connector" by "adapter gateway" or "mediator gateway" but since you will be able to edit the figure, you can incorporate the final term you recall.

  I added an element representing some kind of repository of Context Information Models which could make sense in an architecture picture while may be helpful because this way all elements about which specifications efforts will be carried out are represented (in green):

  *   Restful binding of the NGSI API (illustrated by means of incorporating JSON-LD using brackets)
  *   Specifications of Common Context Information Models
  *   Specifications to be supported by Data Publication platforms.

  Could you Hermann or Patrick update us on the status of the ToR.  We agreed to have a version finalized this week ...

  Please note that I'm on holidays until July 26th.   I will be reading emails, mostly in the evenings, but I may exhibit a slow response.   Please copy the rest of the team in any case.

  Thanks!

-- Juanjo

On 12/07/16 19:51, franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com<mailto:franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com> wrote:



Franck

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Sent: mar., 12 juil. 2016 19:34
Subject: FW:
The figure with phased approach

From: Patrick Guillemin
Sent: 12 July 2016 7:31 PM
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