Dear Gilles, thank you for the positive remarks :-) I have added W3C IoT/IG into the list of organisations which I am collecting on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xDsZhDBa82S2Ph60jY3x6yfzQeYKdhf39qLoREijNOk/edit and also added to the references Nr. 0023: WoT Current Practices. Unofficial Draft 09 September 2016<http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html> The SAREF document is reference Nr. 0022 in the same list. Dear all, I am particularly looking now for SmartCities organizations which could be added as liaison targets, or as sources of material. Of course OASC is already in the list, but are there others (or specific initiatives of some cities) which could be mentioned? Thank you Lindsay ________________________________________ Dr. Lindsay Frost, Chief Standardization Eng. frost at neclab.eu<mailto:frost at neclab.eu> Mobile +49.163.275.1734 NEC Laboratories Europe, Kurfürsten-Anlage 36, D-69115 Heidelberg, Germany. Reg. Headoffice: NEC Europe Ltd, VAT DE161569151 Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London HA4 6QE, Reg. in England 2832014 From: gilles.privat at orange.com [mailto:gilles.privat at orange.com] Sent: Montag, 12. September 2016 18:08 To: Lindsay Frost; Juanjo Hierro; Mulligan, Catherine E A; Franck Le Gall; fiware-oasc-etsi at lists.fiware.org Subject: RE: [Fiware-oasc-etsi] Proposal to create a short CIM ISG "outreach" presentation Dear Lindsay and all Congrats for this synthesis , I think it is very useful also for us to find the best focus points I think it is worthwhile to mention as related work the SAREF standardization by ETSI, which could be seen as a smart home analogue of what we are aiming at for smart cities (and gives an idea of the magnitude of the corresponding ambition...) https://eu-smartcities.eu/content/saref-becomes-new-reference-language-energy-related-data-smart-houses Also the W3C Web of Things Interest Group (supposed to morph into a Working Group) is important to liaise with because our cross-domain data model overlaps what they intend to define De : fiware-oasc-etsi-bounces at lists.fiware.org<mailto:fiware-oasc-etsi-bounces at lists.fiware.org> [mailto:fiware-oasc-etsi-bounces at lists.fiware.org] De la part de Lindsay Frost Envoyé : vendredi 9 septembre 2016 14:22 À : Juanjo Hierro; Mulligan, Catherine E A; Franck Le Gall; fiware-oasc-etsi at lists.fiware.org<mailto:fiware-oasc-etsi at lists.fiware.org> Objet : [Fiware-oasc-etsi] Proposal to create a short CIM ISG "outreach" presentation Dear Cathy, Juanjo, Franck and all, I propose a powerpoint of about 10 pages, covering the points below, and I ask your feedback about how to jointly create it and use it. We need a convincing "launch" presentation if the Board recommends the ISG, to send a "outreach" (positive presentation) towards ETSI, oneM2M, SmartM2M members to engage their interest and to avoid that they assume we are trampling on their topics. If the Board should _not_ recommend the ISG, then we even more need a positive presentation to convince them. Therefore, what do you think of this outline? _______Contents of CIM ISG Launch Presentation_________ ) key message - smart cities and applicatiions with IoT need to be developed/trialed/evolved asap ... urgent! - (a) no re-inventing the wheel! (b) interoperability with oneM2M is targeted (c) open and public - a few organisations see the need for immediate action, and have the commitment ) importance of the topic (CIM for Smart Cities) - smart cities are key ROI for IoT, cities are centres of living and production - traffic, pollution, parking, water, power (efficiency), crime ... all cry out for efficient IoT solutions - eGov and IoT can release many resources/data for synergy with new business and quality of life - IoT is the fundamental requirement, BUT most of the synergies between systems rely on Context Info - there is no common agreement for how to exchange context information ) desired outputs - survey of "who has done what, where is development ongoing, where can liaisons be effective" - data models: common vocabulary and/or agreed mappings between many verticals and also between many spoken languages with different words for same "entities" - API to allow _exchange_ of context information - promote external open-source implementations and proof-of-principle ) who should contribute? - in a world with hundreds of IoT fora, many organisations are already overworked, so need to make a short-term and focused approach .... "open ended" will not be attractive! - who? o smart cities are the "users" for the initial use cases, so need to gather together their inputs! § OASC are first target o application developers and system integrators with strong need for results § FIWARE Community are first target ) why is an ISG the right approach - low threshold to entry for smart cities - initial ideas do not face barrier of huge "learning curve" for existing SDO documents - provides a consolidated input, from many sources, towards other SDOs - outputs are specifications NOT standards: allows "try and see" without promising that the results will be adopted by a European Standards Organisation or a global SDO. - An ISG can be focused more on the European viewpoint, without promising to cover also all Americas or Asian viewpoints for smart cities. This is a limitation which might also help get some success in a restricted context before expanding globally. ) next steps, (your) participation, collaborations/liaisons - open to any ETSI member and non-ETSI participants - outputs will be public, liaisons as frequently as results are available - most urgent: provide tips and info for the initial survey of organisations/specifications o initial obvious list (org and WG): ITU-T SG20, oneM2M WG5, W3C IoT/IG, SmartM2M (Reference Ontology) .... Thanks for your feedback Lindsay ________________________________________ Dr. Lindsay Frost, Chief Standardization Eng. frost at neclab.eu<mailto:frost at neclab.eu> Mobile +49.163.275.1734 NEC Laboratories Europe, Kurfürsten-Anlage 36, D-69115 Heidelberg, Germany. Reg. 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