[Fiware-opencall-help] FIWARE-LAB-OPEN-CALL-2015: depreciation and leasing

[Federico Michele Facca]

Dear Miguel,


On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Miguel Vidal <mvidal at flossystems.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Fernando.
>
> In FLOSSystems, our normal practices are renting hardware and datacenter
> services (mainly colocation and network).
>
> According to Financial Guidelines, page 67:
>
> “Operational leasing (renting): in this case, there is no possibility to
> buy the equipment.
>
> There is no depreciation involved (as the item is still the property of
> the leasing firm) but the costs are eligible if this follows the
> beneficiary's normal practices and does not exceed the costs of purchase
> of the equipment.”
>
>
> How can we justify that renting does not exceed the costs of purchase of
> the equipment? We don’t know purchase of the equipment costs because
> they are hidden for us.
>
>
why not? if rent a dell xxx model, you should be able to know also the
purchase cost.
i.e., you should be able to ask the company making you the offer (or
alternative providers) to provide
cost of purchase as comparison as well.



> As renting is a direct eligible cost, we assume EC contribution will be
> 75% of renting cost. Are we right?
>

correct


Best regards,
Federico


>
> Thanks!
>
> --m
>
>
> > Best regards,
> >     Fernando.-
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/data/ref/fp7/89556/financial_guidelines_en.pdf
> >
> > On 05/11/15 13:51, "fiware-opencall-help-bounces at lists.fiware.org
> > <mailto:fiware-opencall-help-bounces at lists.fiware.org> on behalf of
> > Miguel Vidal" <fiware-opencall-help-bounces at lists.fiware.org
> > <mailto:fiware-opencall-help-bounces at lists.fiware.org> on behalf of
> > mvidal at flossystems.com <mailto:mvidal at flossystems.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     will it be possible to charge leasing equipment (rental agreement) as
> >     direct costs instead purchase of hardware associated with the project
> >     budget?
> >
> >     Furthermore, how do we calculate the hardware depreciation? Is there
> any
> >     rule?
> >
> >     Thanks!
> >
> >     --m
> >
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