You are right that the first DoW says we are going to pay... But, since we have to modify the DoW, one possibility would be to say we are not going to pay... Arian normally accepts those things so, one possibility would be to include this proposal in the next version of the DoW. Any comments from the rest? Of course the idea would be to pay in some special cases, if necessary BR ---- Jose Jimenez Telefonica I+D jimenez at tid.es tf +34 91 4832660 De: Nuria De-Lama Sanchez [mailto:nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu] Enviado el: jueves, 19 de abril de 2012 18:10 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Details on MAC based on DoW and Open Workshop on economic analysis of the FI PPP That is clear Pepe. It is only that I understood in the teleconference that it was explicitly written in the DoW that we were not going to pay for the trips. I must say that my channel was not good, so I may have heard the opposite!!! By the way, I support the involvement of someone from ICT Labs in such committee. I would also like to share with you another event that will be held in Brussels on the 3rd of May.I think it is interesting to attend just to know more about the evaluation of the PPP. For your record, since they will address socio-economic issues I asked my colleague Juan bareño, leader of WP11, to go there so that we can take this information into account in the market and business context. If any of you plans to attend let me know. [cid:image004.jpg at 01CD1ED7.44803FF0]<http://www.fi3p.eu/> What will the Future Internet bring us? An economic analysis of the European Internet industry and the Future Internet Public-Private Partnership (FI-PPP<http://www.fi-ppp.eu/>). Come, listen and see the study outcomes! Open Workshop in Brussels on 3 May 2012, 11:oo - 16:oo Programme, abstract and details: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/foi/lead/socioeconomics Nuria de Lama Research & Innovation Representative to the European Commission T +34 91214 9321 F +34 91754 3252 nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu<mailto:nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu> Albarracín 25 28037 Madrid Spain www.atosresearch.eu<http://www.atosresearch.eu> es.atos.net [cid:image006.gif at 01CD1ED7.44803FF0] ________________________________ From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: jueves, 19 de abril de 2012 17:50 To: Nuria De-Lama Sanchez; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' Subject: RE: Details on MAC based on DoW I agree, but we should try to reduce costs as much as possible. So if the members of the MAB can pay their own fee, it is much better. ---- Jose Jimenez Telefonica I+D jimenez at tid.es tf +34 91 4832660 De: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] En nombre de Nuria De-Lama Sanchez Enviado el: jueves, 19 de abril de 2012 17:30 Para: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: [Fiware-pcc] Details on MAC based on DoW I found this paragraph about the MAC in page 219 of Part B (version: 2011-05-20) The MAC will consist of about 10 members from external organisations, companies and users, possibly complemented by a number of members from business units of some of the beneficiaries. Members of the MAC work on a personal basis, even if they can express their company viewpoint and no funding will be provided by FI-WARE except for trips (economy class in flights) and accommodation. 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