[Fiware-pcc] Minutes PCC Call

[Fasse, Axel]

Dear Juanjo,

so far as I know, I have made all of the comments and remarks within the call, but these comments are not reflected within the minutes.
Especially the DEC-Parts where not agreed by me, this was not mentioned with in the minutes.


In order to avoid this kind of issues in the future I would suggest to document the decisions more precisely.
You - as the coordinator - can suggest a proposal for a decision within the minutes, afterwards all the partner should vote - one by one - for the proposal.
So far as I know, this way is exactly described within the contracts.
Afterwards, we have to follow the legal framework that describes exactly which kind of decisions could be taken by the PCC and which of then should be made by a GA.
So the PCC has to decide which of the decisions the PCC could take and which of them are a proposal from the GA. And all of this stuff should be documented properly within the minutes.

I don't think that it is necessary to have a new call to talk about the changes. I would invite the partners to add their comments and remarks within the minutes as well.
If they are allowed to make the changes, this could be done - hopefully - within the next days.

If I understand the existing contracts correctly, it was there foreseen that partners are allowed to make changes in order to ensure that all of their ideas and topics are reflected properly within the minutes. Especially with respect to topics that are related to IP-issues or to changes within legal-framework (additional penalties, ...), it is important to allow PCC members to make a discussion with the legal departments with their legal colleagues to ensure that they can also agree with the proposals/decisions. And this discussions might also lead to additional changes and comments within the minutes.


In addition to my former comments I would like add, that the CA (3.3.2.1.6) says that the minutes are approved in no one of the partners contradicts within a period of 15 days.
If you have any questions or comments, please let me know.

Best regards,
   Axel



From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es]
Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juli 2012 00:19
To: Fasse, Axel
Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)
Subject: Re: Minutes PCC Call

Dear Axel,

  You insist in trying to drop decisions or Action Points that were agreed during the confcall.

  While I can live with adding notes that may describe current SAP's positions (many of which have been expressed after the confcall but not during the confcall), this shouldn't mean that we have to change the decisions or Action Points that were agreed.

  Again, you can ask for a new PCC meeting because you want that the PCC reconsiders decisions taken and/or re-define some of the Action Points.    If a majority of PCC members agree, it's fine with us.

  BTW, in the following email I will report on a confcall we have had with our PO, Arian Zwegers.

  Cheers,

-- Juanjo



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On 23/07/12 18:38, Fasse, Axel wrote:
Dear Juanjo,

In order to avoid any misunderstandings, I have tried to make some changes, comments and remarks within the minutes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4Dul5cQ5XdAm4HYeaouhnRs7kuK1iB3ROTFN2DjH74/edit
Actually I do not have the right to do this, that's why I have sent you a PDF-Version of the minutes that contains the comments and remarks.
I you take over the right to make the changes, I will do this. If not, I would suggest that you - or one of your colleagues -make the changes.
Please let me know how to proceed.




Best regards,
  Axel

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