From Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Thu Nov 1 17:20:15 2012 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu (Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:20:15 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Message-ID: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: 20121105 Agenda FI-WARE review Seville.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 17887 bytes Desc: 20121105 Agenda FI-WARE review Seville.docx URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 2 06:57:59 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 06:57:59 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> Dear colleagues, First of all, I'm sending this email only to the PCC mailing list, just wanted to remark that. I believe that this change in the agenda, sent in the middle of the holidays, gives to us little time to prepare things properly. I don't know what others think, but I believe that at least we should send an email reminding that it was agreed that the focus of the meeting was ONLY to review "checkpoint 10", while the item in the agenda Arian has introduced is linked to "checkpoint 11" which we were preparing for the review by end of the month. This with little time to react and/or prepare anything. Therefore, we should remark that the new item on the agenda should be considered an "initial discussion" or "brief on status" regarding checkpoint 11 but, by no means, a formal/final review of this checkpoint that we were preparing assuming it would be tackled in the review by the end of the month. I would like to gather your feedback about whether we should send this response or not. Regarding the two parts in which Arian proposes to structure this new slot in the agenda, he says that they expect that "each part is shortly introduced by a presentation from the consortium", so we should discuss urgently what are the ideas/statements we will present ... Here your are my thoughts on what ideas/statements we may present. Your feedback (comments of this set of initial ideas or your proposal on additional ideas) is welcome. 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * as a Service globally * as a Service but restricted to particular geographical or domain areas where the GE owner is making business * downloadable for locally deployment under defined public licenses for use * bi-lateral agreements enabling third parties to commercialize the technology in exchange of royalties or % in revenues * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 2 08:18:42 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:18:42 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> Message-ID: <509373D2.2090207@tid.es> Thanks Alex. We interpret that you are then in favor of sending an email to Arian regarding clarifying that the scope of what was prepared for the meeting was checkpoint 10 and that regarding checkpoint 11, only an "initial discussion" may take place ... Any comments regarding the contents I were suggesting for the presentations that Arian had requested to initiate the discussion ? I copy the fiware-pcc because I believe that it's more efficient if everyone is in the loop. Cheers, -- Juanjo On 02/11/12 08:13, Alex Glikson wrote: I agree that it is not very realistic to provide meaningful and well-organized feedback regarding checkpoint 11 over the weekend. Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: jimenez at tid.es, fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu, Date: 02/11/2012 07:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Sent by: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Dear colleagues, First of all, I'm sending this email only to the PCC mailing list, just wanted to remark that. I believe that this change in the agenda, sent in the middle of the holidays, gives to us little time to prepare things properly. I don't know what others think, but I believe that at least we should send an email reminding that it was agreed that the focus of the meeting was ONLY to review "checkpoint 10", while the item in the agenda Arian has introduced is linked to "checkpoint 11" which we were preparing for the review by end of the month. This with little time to react and/or prepare anything. Therefore, we should remark that the new item on the agenda should be considered an "initial discussion" or "brief on status" regarding checkpoint 11 but, by no means, a formal/final review of this checkpoint that we were preparing assuming it would be tackled in the review by the end of the month. I would like to gather your feedback about whether we should send this response or not. Regarding the two parts in which Arian proposes to structure this new slot in the agenda, he says that they expect that "each part is shortly introduced by a presentation from the consortium", so we should discuss urgently what are the ideas/statements we will present ... Here your are my thoughts on what ideas/statements we may present. Your feedback (comments of this set of initial ideas or your proposal on additional ideas) is welcome. 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * as a Service globally * as a Service but restricted to particular geographical or domain areas where the GE owner is making business * downloadable for locally deployment under defined public licenses for use * bi-lateral agreements enabling third parties to commercialize the technology in exchange of royalties or % in revenues * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 MEUR of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It's been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP's state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Fri Nov 2 09:07:42 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:07:42 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <509373D2.2090207@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <509373D2.2090207@tid.es> Message-ID: <23911_1351843663_50937F4F_23911_17647_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073927@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Hi all, I fully support the email to Arian because we cannot ask people who are on vacations now to prepare another approach for checkpoint 11 which is complementary of checkpoint 10 but only for 4 partners! BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 08:19 ? : Alex Glikson Cc : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Thanks Alex. We interpret that you are then in favor of sending an email to Arian regarding clarifying that the scope of what was prepared for the meeting was checkpoint 10 and that regarding checkpoint 11, only an "initial discussion" may take place ... Any comments regarding the contents I were suggesting for the presentations that Arian had requested to initiate the discussion ? I copy the fiware-pcc because I believe that it's more efficient if everyone is in the loop. Cheers, -- Juanjo On 02/11/12 08:13, Alex Glikson wrote: I agree that it is not very realistic to provide meaningful and well-organized feedback regarding checkpoint 11 over the weekend. Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: jimenez at tid.es, fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu, Date: 02/11/2012 07:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Sent by: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Dear colleagues, First of all, I'm sending this email only to the PCC mailing list, just wanted to remark that. I believe that this change in the agenda, sent in the middle of the holidays, gives to us little time to prepare things properly. I don't know what others think, but I believe that at least we should send an email reminding that it was agreed that the focus of the meeting was ONLY to review "checkpoint 10", while the item in the agenda Arian has introduced is linked to "checkpoint 11" which we were preparing for the review by end of the month. This with little time to react and/or prepare anything. Therefore, we should remark that the new item on the agenda should be considered an "initial discussion" or "brief on status" regarding checkpoint 11 but, by no means, a formal/final review of this checkpoint that we were preparing assuming it would be tackled in the review by the end of the month. I would like to gather your feedback about whether we should send this response or not. Regarding the two parts in which Arian proposes to structure this new slot in the agenda, he says that they expect that "each part is shortly introduced by a presentation from the consortium", so we should discuss urgently what are the ideas/statements we will present ... Here your are my thoughts on what ideas/statements we may present. Your feedback (comments of this set of initial ideas or your proposal on additional ideas) is welcome. 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * as a Service globally * as a Service but restricted to particular geographical or domain areas where the GE owner is making business * downloadable for locally deployment under defined public licenses for use * bi-lateral agreements enabling third parties to commercialize the technology in exchange of royalties or % in revenues * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Fri Nov 2 09:27:17 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:27:17 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <509373D2.2090207@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <509373D2.2090207@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo, i agree with you and alex. i suggest you send the naswer to arian very much in behalf of the pcc which was consulted during the we ... ;) ciao, stefano 2012/11/2 Juanjo Hierro > > Thanks Alex. We interpret that you are then in favor of sending an > email to Arian regarding clarifying that the scope of what was prepared for > the meeting was checkpoint 10 and that regarding checkpoint 11, only an > "initial discussion" may take place ... > > Any comments regarding the contents I were suggesting for the > presentations that Arian had requested to initiate the discussion ? > > I copy the fiware-pcc because I believe that it's more efficient if > everyone is in the loop. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > On 02/11/12 08:13, Alex Glikson wrote: > > I agree that it is not very realistic to provide meaningful and > well-organized feedback regarding checkpoint 11 over the weekend. > > Regards, > Alex > > > > > > From: Juanjo Hierro > To: jimenez at tid.es, fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu, > Date: 02/11/2012 07:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 > Sent by: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu > ------------------------------ > > > > Dear colleagues, > > First of all, I'm sending this email only to the PCC mailing list, just > wanted to remark that. > > I believe that this change in the agenda, sent in the middle of the > holidays, gives to us little time to prepare things properly. I don't > know what others think, but I believe that at least we should send an email > reminding that it was agreed that the focus of the meeting was ONLY to > review "checkpoint 10", while the item in the agenda Arian has introduced > is linked to "checkpoint 11" which we were preparing for the review by end > of the month. This with little time to react and/or prepare anything. > Therefore, we should remark that the new item on the agenda should be > considered an "initial discussion" or "brief on status" regarding > checkpoint 11 but, by no means, a formal/final review of this checkpoint > that we were preparing assuming it would be tackled in the review by the > end of the month. > > I would like to gather your feedback about whether we should send this > response or not. > > Regarding the two parts in which Arian proposes to structure this new > slot in the agenda, he says that they expect that "each part is shortly > introduced by a presentation from the consortium", so we should discuss > urgently what are the ideas/statements we will present ... Here your are > my thoughts on what ideas/statements we may present. Your feedback > (comments of this set of initial ideas or your proposal on additional > ideas) is welcome. > > * > 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within > and beyond the FI-PPP* > > - Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the > Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should > remind: > - Within the FI-PPP: > - provided without costs > - no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore > "best-effort" > - some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and > software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a > UC project/trial provides a good rationale > - Beyond the FI-PPP: > - provided under FRAND terms > - support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements > - some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and > software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral > agreements > - However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, > when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit > foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP > - The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the > conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., > any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze > and bring a response to this new requirement > - We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st > Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the > FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE > regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the > corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of > support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I > refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be > used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): > - as a Service globally > - as a Service but restricted to particular geographical or domain > areas where the GE owner is making business > - downloadable for locally deployment under defined public licenses > for use > - bi-lateral agreements enabling third parties to commercialize the > technology in exchange of royalties or % in revenues > - etc > (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be > available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will > be provided ?) > > * > 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results* > > - We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that > means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully > designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: > - FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set > of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but > other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments > where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in > the Open Innovation Lab: > - It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third > parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure > - It should be requested that the Capacity Building project > support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the > shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is > supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 > - The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it > would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something > relevant for experimenting/testing applications: > - about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure > (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab > - negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open > Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor > networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal > with sensors > - ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as > complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) > - All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating > projects in phase 2 > - We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and > the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application > developers. > - Despite we have planned the necessary support to such > dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that > and would take care of sponsoring relevant events > - We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in > sponsoring this sort of activities > > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: *www.tid.es* > email: *jhierro at tid.es* > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: *http://www.fi-ware.eu* > facebook: *http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242* > twitter: *http://twitter.com/FIware* > linkedIn: *http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932* > > On 01/11/12 17:20, *Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu*wrote: > Dear Jose, > > Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on > the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. > > Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. > > Best regards, > Arian. > > PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is > currently on holiday. > > > *From:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [*mailto:jimenez at tid.es* ] * > Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM* > To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT)* > Cc:* ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; > fiware-pcc* > Subject:* RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville > > Dear Peter > > Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two > events, related but separated. > > - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. > This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an > auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, > if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many > internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it > fully public. > > - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That > will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) > to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have > this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our > Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any > audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for > November 5th > > The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national > also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as > I say, it will not be fully public. > > I enclose the programmes of the two events > > Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is > internal, so we can change it without notice) > > For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity > > BR > > > *From:* *Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu* [* > mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu* ] * > Sent:* lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55* > To:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO* > Cc:* *Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu* * > Subject:* FI-WARE testbed launch Seville > > Dear Jose, > > With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 > November? > > Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the > FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? > > What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some > through the Commission's PR channels? > > Many thanks, best, Peter > > *From:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [*mailto:jimenez at tid.es* ] * > Sent:* Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM* > To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); *tcl at forskningsradet.no* > * > Cc:* ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT)* > Subject:* RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > Dear Till Christopher > > Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has > already sent you our draft agenda. > > Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your > side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables > since the event is already rather crowded. > > Best regards > > *From:* *Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu* [* > mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu* ] * > Sent:* martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59* > To:* *tcl at forskningsradet.no* * > Cc:* *Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu* ; JOSE > JIMENEZ DELGADO* > Subject:* RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and > then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The > workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, > attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. > > I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who > masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative > of the Future Internet Forum. > > Kind regards, > > Peter > > > *From:* Till Christopher Lech *[mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no]*<[mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no]> > * > Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM* > To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT)* > Subject:* [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > Dear Peter, > > It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! > > During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the > official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. > > As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any > more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to > FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be > highly appreciated! > > Thanks in advance! > > Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards > > Till Christopher Lech > > Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser > The Research Council of Norway > Mail: *tcl at rcn.no* > Phone: +47 922 40884 > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at:* > **http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx* > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From jimenez at tid.es Fri Nov 2 10:45:22 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:45:22 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: Dear PCC As agreed in the rapid consultation, we are going to send this mail to the EC if you all agree. We shall do it at 12.00 CET in case there are further comments BR Dear Arian We have had a quick consultation with the PCC and we think it could be good to have a discussion, as you mention frank and open on the issues underlined. However, THIS CANNOT be considered part of the review exercise. As we have agreed, we are only going to cover point 10 (commercial aspects) and not about the future of the GE outside the project. This point 11 has been moved to the meeting in Brussels end of November. Certainly, we cannot expect to have commitment from the different companies. If you think this discussion is useful, we are willing to have it, but it should be perfectly clear to the reviewers and observers this is NOT part of the FI-WARE review Thank you From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu] Sent: jueves, 01 de noviembre de 2012 17:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; ana.garcia at enoll.org; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It's been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP's state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 2 10:59:38 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:59:38 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> Message-ID: <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimenez at tid.es Fri Nov 2 11:06:06 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:06:06 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> Message-ID: Dear all Also, as agreed with Axel, we have prepared a draft document that could be included in the Wiki page. Of course, subject to your approval BR From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 11:00 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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As we have > agreed, we are only going to cover point 10 (commercial aspects) and not > about the future of the GE outside the project. This point 11 has been > moved to the meeting in Brussels end of November. Certainly, we cannot > expect to have commitment from the different companies. > i'd take out the capitals (too aggressive) and also wont call a review an "exercise". so i'd suggest the first sentence to be: "However, this cannot be considered part of the review plaaned for seville. In fact as already agreed with you, we are ..." the last sentence to be: "Unfortunately, we cannot expect to provide precise statmenets and qualified representatives from all the other partners with so short advance notice". > > If you think this discussion is useful, we are willing to have it, but it > should be perfectly clear to the reviewers and observers this is NOT part > of the FI-WARE review > again take out capitals from here. ciao, stefano > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > *From:* Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu] > *Sent:* jueves, 01 de noviembre de 2012 17:20 > *To:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu > *Cc:* JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; ana.garcia at enoll.org; > fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu > *Subject:* FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 > > > > Dear Jose, > > > > Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on > the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. > > > > Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. > > > > Best regards, > > Arian. > > > > PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is > currently on holiday. > > > > > > *From:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es ] > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM > *To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) > *Cc:* ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; > fiware-pcc > *Subject:* RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville > > > > Dear Peter > > > > Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two > events, related but separated. > > > > - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. > This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an > auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, > if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many > internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it > fully public. > > > > - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That > will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) > to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have > this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our > Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any > audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for > November 5th > > > > The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national > also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as > I say, it will not be fully public. > > > > I enclose the programmes of the two events > > > > Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is > internal, so we can change it without notice) > > > > For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity > > > > BR > > > > > > *From:* Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] > > *Sent:* lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 > *To:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO > *Cc:* Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu > *Subject:* FI-WARE testbed launch Seville > > > > Dear Jose, > > > > With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 > November? > > > > Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the > FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? > > > > What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some > through the Commission's PR channels? > > > > Many thanks, best, Peter > > > > *From:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es ] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM > *To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no > *Cc:* ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) > *Subject:* RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > > Dear Till Christopher > > > > Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has > already sent you our draft agenda. > > > > Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your > side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables > since the event is already rather crowded. > > > > Best regards > > > > *From:* Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] > > *Sent:* martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 > *To:* tcl at forskningsradet.no > *Cc:* Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO > *Subject:* RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > > > > Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and > then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The > workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, > attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. > > > > I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who > masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative > of the Future Internet Forum. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Peter > > > > > > *From:* Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM > *To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) > *Subject:* [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > > Dear Peter, > > > > It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! > > > > During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the > official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. > > > > As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any > more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to > FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be > highly appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards > > > > Till Christopher Lech > > > > Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser > > The Research Council of Norway > > Mail: tcl at rcn.no > > Phone: +47 922 40884 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Fri Nov 2 11:50:27 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:50:27 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6361748E2FF7@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Jose, I support the proposals from Stefano. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of stefano de panfilis Sent: Freitag, 2. November 2012 11:29 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: fiware-pcc Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 dear jose, As agreed in the rapid consultation, we are going to send this mail to the EC if you all agree. We shall do it at 12.00 CET in case there are further comments few comments in line Dear Arian We have had a quick consultation with the PCC and we think it could be good to have a discussion, as you mention frank and open on the issues underlined. However, THIS CANNOT be considered part of the review exercise. As we have agreed, we are only going to cover point 10 (commercial aspects) and not about the future of the GE outside the project. This point 11 has been moved to the meeting in Brussels end of November. Certainly, we cannot expect to have commitment from the different companies. i'd take out the capitals (too aggressive) and also wont call a review an "exercise". so i'd suggest the first sentence to be: "However, this cannot be considered part of the review plaaned for seville. In fact as already agreed with you, we are ..." the last sentence to be: "Unfortunately, we cannot expect to provide precise statmenets and qualified representatives from all the other partners with so short advance notice". If you think this discussion is useful, we are willing to have it, but it should be perfectly clear to the reviewers and observers this is NOT part of the FI-WARE review again take out capitals from here. ciao, stefano Thank you From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu] Sent: jueves, 01 de noviembre de 2012 17:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; ana.garcia at enoll.org; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It's been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP's state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From jimenez at tid.es Fri Nov 2 11:59:58 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:59:58 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: Dear Arian We have had a quick consultation with the PCC and we think it could be good to have a discussion, as you mention, frank and open on the issues underlined. However, this cannot be considered part of the review planed for Seville. In fact as already agreed with you, we are only going to cover checkpoint 10 (presentation by senior business personnel from the main commercial partners of the consortium on corporate plans to bring the FI-WARE key results to the market) and not about the future of the GE RIs beyond lifetime of the FI-WARE project (checkpoint 11). Checkpoint 11 has been moved to the meeting in Brussels end of November. Unfortunately, we cannot expect to provide precise statements and qualified representatives from all the other partners with so short advance notice. So, we are willing to have the discussion, but it should be perfectly clear to the reviewers and observers that this is not part of the FI-WARE review. Best regards From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu] Sent: jueves, 01 de noviembre de 2012 17:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; ana.garcia at enoll.org; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It's been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP's state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Fri Nov 2 12:51:12 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:51:12 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo, i do agree with the new points and the overall structure already known by everybody (hopefully we all are able to proper answer to all such aspects). i'd like anyway to push forward a question: what about adoption by other fp7 projects and/or initiatives. as you know i'm particularly keen on this latter aspect as the huge effort i'm doing, with other colleagfues, to have eit ict labs as preferred, or at least one of the main, channel for having our technologies widely adopted. i think frand conditions migth be a barrier in this respect. of course happy to discuss this. please be sure arian, and even more peter, will ask about that. ciao, stefano 2012/11/2 Juanjo Hierro > Dear all, > > Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would > like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. > > I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third > bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my > previous email, your feedback is welcome. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > > > *1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations)**within and beyond the FI-PPP > * > > > - Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the > Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should > remind: > - Within the FI-PPP: > - provided without costs > - no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore > "best-effort" > - some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and > software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a > UC project/trial provides a good rationale > - Beyond the FI-PPP: > - provided under FRAND terms > - support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements > - some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and > software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral > agreements > - However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, > when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit > foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP > > > - The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions > defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third > party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a > response to this new requirement > > > - We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st > Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the > FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE > regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the > corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of > support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I > refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be > used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): > - GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions > - GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., > support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) > - GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a > user > - GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can > commercialize it > - etc > > (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be > available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will > be provided ?) > > > - We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in > the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and > transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on > the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: > - The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab > elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial > models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable > to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some > commercial models where listed above. > - Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the > proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and > Conditions" tab). > - The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and > Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and > installed locally if such offering is supported. > > > > *2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results* > > - We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that > means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully > designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: > - FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set > of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but > other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments > where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in > the Open Innovation Lab: > - It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third > parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure > - It should be requested that the Capacity Building project > support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the > shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is > supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 > - The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it > would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something > relevant for experimenting/testing applications: > - about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure > (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab > - negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open > Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor > networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal > with sensors > - ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as > complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) > - All this should be borne in mind when selecting and > negotiating projects in phase 2 > > > - We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and > the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application > developers. > - Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination > activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take > care of sponsoring relevant events > - We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in > sponsoring this sort of activities > > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > > Dear Jose, > > > > Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on > the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. > > > > Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. > > > > Best regards, > > Arian. > > > > PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is > currently on holiday. > > > > > > *From:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es ] > *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM > *To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) > *Cc:* ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; > fiware-pcc > *Subject:* RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville > > > > Dear Peter > > > > Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two > events, related but separated. > > > > - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. > This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an > auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, > if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many > internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it > fully public. > > > > - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That > will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) > to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have > this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our > Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any > audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for > November 5th > > > > The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national > also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as > I say, it will not be fully public. > > > > I enclose the programmes of the two events > > > > Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is > internal, so we can change it without notice) > > > > For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity > > > > BR > > > > > > *From:* Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] > > *Sent:* lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 > *To:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO > *Cc:* Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu > *Subject:* FI-WARE testbed launch Seville > > > > Dear Jose, > > > > With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 > November? > > > > Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the > FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? > > > > What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some > through the Commission's PR channels? > > > > Many thanks, best, Peter > > > > *From:* JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es ] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM > *To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no > *Cc:* ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) > *Subject:* RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > > Dear Till Christopher > > > > Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has > already sent you our draft agenda. > > > > Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your > side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables > since the event is already rather crowded. > > > > Best regards > > > > *From:* Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] > > *Sent:* martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 > *To:* tcl at forskningsradet.no > *Cc:* Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO > *Subject:* RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > > > > Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and > then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The > workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, > attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. > > > > I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who > masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative > of the Future Internet Forum. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Peter > > > > > > *From:* Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM > *To:* FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) > *Subject:* [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch > > > > Dear Peter, > > > > It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! > > > > During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the > official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. > > > > As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any > more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to > FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be > highly appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards > > > > Till Christopher Lech > > > > Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser > > The Research Council of Norway > > Mail: tcl at rcn.no > > Phone: +47 922 40884 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Fri Nov 2 14:12:45 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:12:45 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> Message-ID: <16050_1351861966_5093C6CE_16050_16974_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AE0@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Dear all, I do not fully agree with the last point of the doc. Based on the point where we are, I would prefer to let open some doors and do not state anything about commercialization. We have not solved the checkpoint 11, so no communication should clearly provide some answers. To me the best point is to stay open and basically announce that the future of Fi-Ware is also what GEs users will do with it. Why elaborate on money when EC could ask us to define some priorities because too many enablers are under IPR and no company will assume a strong position for commercial offers in 3 years? We are at the beginning of phase 2, we are part of a programme and we have to find another manner to launch an ecosystem. Telling everybody that they will have to pay for it is not a good way. First we have to create the need and after people will pay for it. And in your last paragraph the first thing you target is commercial instantiation. It is a wrong approach at this stage of the project, I do not say it is not the right approach at the end but today we are playing the game of EC pushing this view, and pushing EC to ask more Open Source for free. I do not agree with the last paragraph. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 11:06 ? : JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all Also, as agreed with Axel, we have prepared a draft document that could be included in the Wiki page. Of course, subject to your approval BR From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 11:00 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From jimenez at tid.es Fri Nov 2 14:18:40 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:18:40 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <16050_1351861966_5093C6CE_16050_16974_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AE0@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> <16050_1351861966_5093C6CE_16050_16974_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AE0@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Dear Thierry Could you please re-word the document? Should we simply delete the last section? Thank you From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 14:13 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, I do not fully agree with the last point of the doc. Based on the point where we are, I would prefer to let open some doors and do not state anything about commercialization. We have not solved the checkpoint 11, so no communication should clearly provide some answers. To me the best point is to stay open and basically announce that the future of Fi-Ware is also what GEs users will do with it. Why elaborate on money when EC could ask us to define some priorities because too many enablers are under IPR and no company will assume a strong position for commercial offers in 3 years? We are at the beginning of phase 2, we are part of a programme and we have to find another manner to launch an ecosystem. Telling everybody that they will have to pay for it is not a good way. First we have to create the need and after people will pay for it. And in your last paragraph the first thing you target is commercial instantiation. It is a wrong approach at this stage of the project, I do not say it is not the right approach at the end but today we are playing the game of EC pushing this view, and pushing EC to ask more Open Source for free. I do not agree with the last paragraph. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 11:06 ? : JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all Also, as agreed with Axel, we have prepared a draft document that could be included in the Wiki page. Of course, subject to your approval BR From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 11:00 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Fri Nov 2 14:25:45 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:25:45 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> <16050_1351861966_5093C6CE_16050_16974_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AE0@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <16050_1351862746_5093C9DA_16050_17758_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AFC@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Dear Jose, Here is a ?quick? proposal if everybody agrees of course. BR Thierry De : JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 14:19 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear Thierry Could you please re-word the document? Should we simply delete the last section? Thank you From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 14:13 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, I do not fully agree with the last point of the doc. Based on the point where we are, I would prefer to let open some doors and do not state anything about commercialization. We have not solved the checkpoint 11, so no communication should clearly provide some answers. To me the best point is to stay open and basically announce that the future of Fi-Ware is also what GEs users will do with it. Why elaborate on money when EC could ask us to define some priorities because too many enablers are under IPR and no company will assume a strong position for commercial offers in 3 years? We are at the beginning of phase 2, we are part of a programme and we have to find another manner to launch an ecosystem. Telling everybody that they will have to pay for it is not a good way. First we have to create the need and after people will pay for it. And in your last paragraph the first thing you target is commercial instantiation. It is a wrong approach at this stage of the project, I do not say it is not the right approach at the end but today we are playing the game of EC pushing this view, and pushing EC to ask more Open Source for free. I do not agree with the last paragraph. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 11:06 ? : JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all Also, as agreed with Axel, we have prepared a draft document that could be included in the Wiki page. Of course, subject to your approval BR From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 11:00 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! 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Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:59:38 +0100 From: Juanjo Hierro To: jimenez at tid.es, fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards Till Christopher Lech Seniorr?dgiver / Senior Adviser The Research Council of Norway Mail: tcl at rcn.no Phone: +47 922 40884 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Name: FI-WARE Review Seville Forward-looking Discussion 12-11-04.ppt Type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint Size: 1780224 bytes Desc: not available URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Mon Nov 5 07:57:02 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:57:02 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <16050_1351862746_5093C9DA_16050_17758_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AFC@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D46B50@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <509360E7.9020503@tid.es> <5093998A.4040206@tid.es> <16050_1351861966_5093C6CE_16050_16974_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AE0@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <16050_1351862746_5093C9DA_16050_17758_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C073AFC@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6361748E38B8@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Thierry, thank you very much for the optimization of the document, from my point of view this ?optimization? leads to a great improvement. As mentioned by Jose, it is actually not planned to use this document within the meeting in Seville. Because of the fact that I am actually not totally convinced that about the ?must-have topics? that are essential for the EC, I would suggest to discuss further details after the meeting in Seville. I expect much more clarity about the expectations of the EC after this meeting. Maybe Juanjo can put this topic on the agenda of the next WPL/WPA Call. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Freitag, 2. November 2012 14:26 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear Jose, Here is a ?quick? proposal if everybody agrees of course. BR Thierry De : JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 14:19 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear Thierry Could you please re-word the document? Should we simply delete the last section? Thank you From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 14:13 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, I do not fully agree with the last point of the doc. Based on the point where we are, I would prefer to let open some doors and do not state anything about commercialization. We have not solved the checkpoint 11, so no communication should clearly provide some answers. To me the best point is to stay open and basically announce that the future of Fi-Ware is also what GEs users will do with it. Why elaborate on money when EC could ask us to define some priorities because too many enablers are under IPR and no company will assume a strong position for commercial offers in 3 years? We are at the beginning of phase 2, we are part of a programme and we have to find another manner to launch an ecosystem. Telling everybody that they will have to pay for it is not a good way. First we have to create the need and after people will pay for it. And in your last paragraph the first thing you target is commercial instantiation. It is a wrong approach at this stage of the project, I do not say it is not the right approach at the end but today we are playing the game of EC pushing this view, and pushing EC to ask more Open Source for free. I do not agree with the last paragraph. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 11:06 ? : JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all Also, as agreed with Axel, we have prepared a draft document that could be included in the Wiki page. Of course, subject to your approval BR From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Sent: viernes, 02 de noviembre de 2012 11:00 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: FI-WARE: final agenda review Nov 5 Dear all, Now that we have agreed to send the proper response to Arian, I would like to gather some input for the presentations to be prepared. I have added a new bullet regarding point 1, and refined also its third bullet. I have highlighted the changes in green. As stated in my previous email, your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo 1. Terms and conditions of use of GE RI (Reference Implementations) within and beyond the FI-PPP * Statement: Partners will comply with what was agreed in the Collaboration Agreement and there were some clear points there we should remind: * Within the FI-PPP: * provided without costs * no special support conditions (e.g., 24x7, SLA) therefore "best-effort" * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments, and supported, only if a UC project/trial provides a good rationale * Beyond the FI-PPP: * provided under FRAND terms * support conditions are subject to bi-lateral agreements * some GEs may be planned to be delivered "as a Service" and software will be provided for local deployments only subject to bilateral agreements * However, the above conditions are limited to FI-PPP partners, when they require this in writing and only for the use to exploit foreground (results) they have developed in the FI-PPP * The EC must understand that the requirement to extend the conditions defined beyond the FI-PPP also beyond the FI-PPP partners (i.e., any third party) was not initially considered so it takes time to analyze and bring a response to this new requirement * We won't be able to talk about pricing at this stage (end of 1st Release, initial developments of 2nd Release) regarding offering beyond the FI-PPP and FI-WARE. However, we plan to bring information per GE regarding what kind of commercial models are planned to be supported by the corresponding GE owner, including what is going to be the kind/nature of support associated to each of those commercial models planned. When I refer to kind of commercial models, I mean to describe how the GE RI can be used/delivered, for example (note that models below are not exclusive): * GE RI is provided "as a Service" globally without restrictions * GE RI is provided "as a Service" with some restrictions (e.g., support to some regions or specific to certain application domain) * GE RI is provided as downloadable software that is deployed by a user * GE RI implementation is licensed so that third parties can commercialize it * etc (Question mark here: when can we commit that this information can be available for all GEs ? what can we say regarding dates when this info will be provided ?) * We may anticipate that the terms and conditions under which GEis in the Second Release will be offered to third parties will be public and transparent in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We my share some initial ideas on the matter during the meeting but they are currently under discussion: * The entry corresponding to a particular GEi may have a tab elaborating on "Use Terms and Conditions" linked to different commercial models being supported. There may be several commercial models applicable to the same GEi, each with its own "Use Terms and Conditions". Some commercial models where listed above. * Each instance in the "Instances" Tab will have a link to the proper "Use Terms and Conditions" (described in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab). * The "downloads" Tab will have a link to the "Use Terms and Conditions" that apply when the software of the GEi is downloaded and installed locally if such offering is supported. 2. Involvement of third parties and rapid take-up of FI-WARE results * We have always assumed that we were part of a program, and that means that the contribution of others to this goal should be carefully designed. It is not just FI-WARE ALONE who can cover this goal: * FI-WARE will setup and Open Innovation Lab with a significant set of resources that will allow third parties to experiment applications, but other projects of the program have to bring the real trial environments where third parties can deploy the applications they have experimented in the Open Innovation Lab: * It would be highly desirable that Trial projects allow third parties to deploy experimental applications in their infrastructure * It should be requested that the Capacity Building project support third parties in deploying experimental applications on top of the shared FI-WARE Instance facility (or network of FI-WARE Instances) it is supposed to bring and offer in phase 2 * The investment in the Open Innovation Lab is not trivial, it would be fair to recognize that we are planning to deliver something relevant for experimenting/testing applications: * about 1,2 M? of investment in datacenter infrastructure (servers, connectivity) linked to the Open Innovation Lab * negotiations with Sevilla and M?laga cities so that the Open Innovation Laba datacenter infrastructure is complemented by sensor networks that may allow third parties to experiment applications that deal with sensors * ... projects in phase 2 should bring what is needed as complementary (support to deployment of applications in real trials) * All this should be borne in mind when selecting and negotiating projects in phase 2 * We need actions that help us to disseminate FI-WARE technologies and the Open Innovation Lab within the wider community of application developers. * Despite we have planned the necessary support to such dissemination activities, we expected that CONCORD would coordinate that and would take care of sponsoring relevant events * We welcome the suggestion of the EC to focus the 3rd Open Call in sponsoring this sort of activities Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 01/11/12 17:20, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Jose, Since the public launch event has been moved to Nov 6, a lot of space on the agenda was created. We would like to use this space efficiently. Therefore, please find the final agenda for the review on Nov 5 attached. Best regards, Arian. PS. I will not be available for Nov 6, and I doubt that Peter is. He is currently on holiday. From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:27 PM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; 'Ana Garcia'; fiware-pcc Subject: RE: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Peter Finally, after a lot of discussion, it seems we are going to have two events, related but separated. - First is the FI-WARE review. November 5th . I attach the agenda. This event will be under invitation in a large room but not in an auditorium. It will bring representatives from all FI-WARE partners and, if you think it appropriate, you can have side meetings. Since many internal strategic discussion could take place, we preferred not to make it fully public. - Second is a full event on opportunities of Smart cities . That will be November 6th and will be much more institutional (and in Spanish) to promote the PPP and the opportunities it will offer. I tried to have this second event in English but it seemed, after discussion with our Commercial people, that English was not adequate if we wanted to have any audience at all. That was also a reason not to have an open event for November 5th The second event will be covered fully by the local press (and national also). They will also make reference to the FI-WARE event on Monday but, as I say, it will not be fully public. I enclose the programmes of the two events Comments (particularly for the Nov 5th event) are welcomed (it is internal, so we can change it without notice) For the event of the 6th we intend to make maximum publicity BR From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: lunes, 15 de octubre de 2012 14:55 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu Subject: FI-WARE testbed launch Seville Dear Jose, With the event coming closer, would you have a final agenda, notably for 5 November? Would there be an opportunity to have a side meeting with members of the FI-WARE consortium present in Seville that day? What sort of PR related work do you foresee? I suppose we could reuse some through the Commission's PR channels? Many thanks, best, Peter From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:06 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT); tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT) Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Till Christopher Certainly, it would be a pleasure having FIF at the event. Peter has already sent you our draft agenda. Do you think it would be appropriate a separate participation from your side?. My suggestions is FIF is incorporated in one of the Round tables since the event is already rather crowded. Best regards From: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu] Sent: martes, 09 de octubre de 2012 8:59 To: tcl at forskningsradet.no Cc: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Subject: RE: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Ouups, first I awaited to have a final, final confirmation on the date and then it went down the list. Sorry for the delay beyond necessary. The workshop will take place on 5 November, with a 'Spanish' day on 6 November, attached the workshop agenda for your consideration. I ccied Jose Jimenez from Telefonica, the FI-WARE coordinator, who masterminds this pubic launch and who surely would welcome a representative of the Future Internet Forum. Kind regards, Peter From: Till Christopher Lech [mailto:tcl at forskningsradet.no] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:23 AM To: FATELNIG Peter (CNECT) Subject: [FIF] FI-WARE testbed launch Dear Peter, It?s been nice seeing you again in Warsaw last week! During your presentation on the FI-PPP?s state of play, you mentioned the official FI-WARE test bed launch in Seville, November 8th. As I might be interested in attending, can you at this point provide any more information on the event? Will there be an invitation issued to FIF-members? Any details (or pointers to more technical info) would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! 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The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: * the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; * the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; * the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; * the management procedures and methods of the project; * the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; * the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 ? Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Regards, Alex From: Garino Pierangelo To: "jimenez at tid.es" , Cc: "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" Date: 07/11/2012 04:19 PM Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Sent by: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations ? Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-pcc mailing list Fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-pcc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 7 16:50:07 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:50:07 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do not think we have any minutes. In general, my personal perception was good, we made the presentations, there were a number of questions, which seemed all right. Then we had a discussion about the ownership of deliverables. This was outside the evaluation and no major conclusion was reached but we need to re-discuss the issue at the review in November. As expected, the EC showed their concern about the possible project results and their use beyond the project (or PPP). Then, as requested, we went to visit the test-bed. There was a couple of political speeches which were all right in tone. If we get any further feedback from the EC, we shall let you know The event in Seville, the following day, was really a success. Clearly all SMEs in the area and the PA were very impressed by the effort and they liked the concept very much. We had very good presence, the meeting room was completely full, with people standing. We have appeared at the highest level at the local press. The Major delivered an speech talking about FI-WARE (even if, for sure he did not understand it :) ). Also the Spanish Ministry was supporting the effort at the Secretary of State level. In fact, I am going into a small tour to Zaragoza and Malaga to sell the concept there tomorrow and next Friday We already have a queue of SMEs who want to use FI-WARE. Let us not disappoint them. BR From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Alex Glikson Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 16:22 To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Are there minutes from the meeting? Regards, Alex From: Garino Pierangelo > To: "jimenez at tid.es" >, Cc: "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" > Date: 07/11/2012 04:19 PM Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Sent by: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? 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I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CDBD0C.18C3E140]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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A number of points that are relevant on the matter: * As already agreed, we will have the reharsal meeting during November 26th and November 27 in Brussels (Telefonica premises). We will start at 09:30am since there are many things to prepare. We know this will mean that many of you will have to travel on Sunday but we guess you agree is important to devote two full days to the reharsal (besides any previous confcalls preparing specific topics) * Attendance of all WPLs is mandatory both to the reharsal and the review. It is important that people that are key for the live demo we are planning to show also attend the review meeting and the rehearsal meeting at least the day before. As requested by the EC, names of people attending should be provided before November 23rd. Please let us know the list of people who, in addition to WPLs, are planning to attend the review and the reharsal meeting by November 19th. * As you see, they are asking for a draft agenda of the review this Friday 9th. We have asked for an extension to this so that we can send it by Monday EOB, given the fact that Friday is holiday in Spain and for also holiday for some of the partners (IBM - IL). Let's discuss about it off-line and get it approved during the scheduled follow-up confcall on Monday. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:43:49 +0000 From: To: CC: , , , , , , , Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: * the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; * the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; * the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; * the management procedures and methods of the project; * the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; * the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 08/11/12 05:28, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear all, Please find enclosed the offical invitation by the EC to the M18 Review Meeting. A number of points that are relevant on the matter: * As already agreed, we will have the reharsal meeting during November 26th and November 27 in Brussels (Telefonica premises). We will start at 09:30am since there are many things to prepare. We know this will mean that many of you will have to travel on Sunday but we guess you agree is important to devote two full days to the reharsal (besides any previous confcalls preparing specific topics) * Attendance of all WPLs is mandatory both to the reharsal and the review. It is important that people that are key for the live demo we are planning to show also attend the review meeting and the rehearsal meeting at least the day before. As requested by the EC, names of people attending should be provided before November 23rd. Please let us know the list of people who, in addition to WPLs, are planning to attend the review and the reharsal meeting by November 19th. * As you see, they are asking for a draft agenda of the review this Friday 9th. We have asked for an extension to this so that we can send it by Monday EOB, given the fact that Friday is holiday in Spain and for also holiday for some of the partners (IBM - IL). Let's discuss about it off-line and get it approved during the scheduled follow-up confcall on Monday. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:43:49 +0000 From: To: CC: , , , , , , , Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: * the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; * the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; * the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; * the management procedures and methods of the project; * the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; * the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com Thu Nov 8 10:01:13 2012 From: pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com (BISSON Pascal) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:01:13 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting and info reharsal meeting In-Reply-To: <509B3500.2070700@tid.es> References: <509B3500.2070700@tid.es> Message-ID: <24335_1352365276_509B74DC_24335_588_1_CBBCD6C304123F4AB23FAAE3055C8C0E0206D92E79FD@THSONEA01CMS04P.one.grp> Dear Juanjo, Thanks for your email. Regarding live demo could you please update us and provide us with all the last details (textual description and key people to attend - they should be known by now ...). This for all to share the same ground on today status and plans. Many thanks in advance. Hearing from you. Regards, Pascal De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : jeudi 8 novembre 2012 05:29 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting and info reharsal meeting Dear all, Please find enclosed the offical invitation by the EC to the M18 Review Meeting. A number of points that are relevant on the matter: * As already agreed, we will have the reharsal meeting during November 26th and November 27 in Brussels (Telefonica premises). We will start at 09:30am since there are many things to prepare. We know this will mean that many of you will have to travel on Sunday but we guess you agree is important to devote two full days to the reharsal (besides any previous confcalls preparing specific topics) * Attendance of all WPLs is mandatory both to the reharsal and the review. It is important that people that are key for the live demo we are planning to show also attend the review meeting and the rehearsal meeting at least the day before. As requested by the EC, names of people attending should be provided before November 23rd. Please let us know the list of people who, in addition to WPLs, are planning to attend the review and the reharsal meeting by November 19th. * As you see, they are asking for a draft agenda of the review this Friday 9th. We have asked for an extension to this so that we can send it by Monday EOB, given the fact that Friday is holiday in Spain and for also holiday for some of the partners (IBM - IL). Let's discuss about it off-line and get it approved during the scheduled follow-up confcall on Monday. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:43:49 +0000 From: To: CC: , , , , , , , Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; ? the management procedures and methods of the project; ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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We will also give a glimpse on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) * Second day: * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FI-WARE_Review_Agenda_Draft_2012-11-08.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 17627 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Thu Nov 8 21:16:58 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 21:16:58 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> Message-ID: Dear Juanjo, dear All, the draft looks fine to me, I want just mention two points which might be relevant for the meeting (the first one being the most important): 1) There was a discussion at the last review meeting about the lack of a consistent risk management plan. We had a long discussion between first and second review day, then we had put this point in the agenda of WPL/WPA calls since this summer, but since then we never moved forward. Although this is not one of the checkpoints, I would expect this issue will come out again during the discussions at the review, therefore we should be prepared to answer properly. 2) The second FI-WARE Open Call closed officially yesterday. Obviously this is to be verified (maybe no proposal was submitted!), but if we find out there is a good participation level, it would be worth mentioning this fact as well in the achievements session. Finally, I remember that some of the reviewers, offline, expressed the pity of not having one representative per partner at the review, to talk to them about the project. Maybe it will be necessary having more partner representatives in any case due to the demo setup, and on the other hand sometimes having all the partners might create more troubles than not having them (e.g. provide contradictory answers), however I would suggest we take also this possible aspect into account. BR Pier ________________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro [jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:01 PM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review Dear colleagues, Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following rationale * First day: * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We will also give a glimpse on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) * Second day: * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Thu Nov 8 22:04:06 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:04:06 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo and all, in addition to the points of pier which i fully buy (although not completely sure we should have the full consortium perhaps juanjo and jose must verify this with arian) i have the following minor points: 1. i realise there is no "official" presentation of the testbed this migth be fine, but requires some serious slides in others presentations (yours?). in this context it is important to show the current usage and effort we are doing. 2. the live demo must have a common story to tell otherwise they are difficult and boring to follow. my suggestion is to create a simple story around smart city as it was the core topic of the day in seville. 3 the exploitation day, crtically important given the questions and the push they gave in seville, should be well characterised as such. i suggest also for this day all the presentations to share the same structure and be very much conving statements instead of inspiring thougths ... ciao, stefano 2012/11/8 Garino Pierangelo > Dear Juanjo, dear All, > > the draft looks fine to me, I want just mention two points which might be > relevant for the meeting (the first one being the most important): > > 1) There was a discussion at the last review meeting about the lack of a > consistent risk management plan. We had a long discussion between first and > second review day, then we had put this point in the agenda of WPL/WPA > calls since this summer, but since then we never moved forward. Although > this is not one of the checkpoints, I would expect this issue will come out > again during the discussions at the review, therefore we should be prepared > to answer properly. > > 2) The second FI-WARE Open Call closed officially yesterday. Obviously > this is to be verified (maybe no proposal was submitted!), but if we find > out there is a good participation level, it would be worth mentioning this > fact as well in the achievements session. > > Finally, I remember that some of the reviewers, offline, expressed the > pity of not having one representative per partner at the review, to talk to > them about the project. > Maybe it will be necessary having more partner representatives in any case > due to the demo setup, and on the other hand sometimes having all the > partners might create more troubles than not having them (e.g. provide > contradictory answers), however I would suggest we take also this possible > aspect into account. > > > BR > Pier > > > > ________________________________________ > From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [ > fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro [ > jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:01 PM > To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; > fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu > Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review > > Dear colleagues, > > Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review > meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following > rationale > > * First day: > * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major > achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of > beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to > recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to > bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We > will also give a glimpse > on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of > FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the > launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab > * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just > about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a > vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different > stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. > * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, > to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing > them. > * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The > previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed > or not :-) > * Second day: > * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one > of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans > further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and > the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was > worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation > related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered > in the previous day. > * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight > that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and > dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC > projects > > Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so > please react quickly. > > Cheers, > > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle > persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante > dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora > abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di > darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua > distruzione, Grazie. > > This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged > information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, > printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the > intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and > advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpl mailing list > Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl > > -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Thu Nov 8 22:11:33 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 21:11:33 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> Message-ID: <26550_1352409094_509C2006_26550_4852_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C076708@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Dear Juanjo and all, I agree with Stefano that we should introduce the demo by a testbed presentation at least to introduce what we will use during the demo. For the story-board of the demo, I think we have it but it is not fully align with Smart Cities but as we have to support many UC projects I do not think this is a major point which could take lots of time. As explained before the review in Seville, we will not do the same speech during the review in Brussels especially for the exploitation part so what is really expected. Going through all individual exploitation plans would take hours and could push reviewers to ask new questions if all the exploitations plans are not aligned. Could you clarify what are your expectations regarding this point? BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de stefano de panfilis Envoy? : jeudi 8 novembre 2012 22:04 ? : Garino Pierangelo Cc : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review dear juanjo and all, in addition to the points of pier which i fully buy (although not completely sure we should have the full consortium perhaps juanjo and jose must verify this with arian) i have the following minor points: 1. i realise there is no "official" presentation of the testbed this migth be fine, but requires some serious slides in others presentations (yours?). in this context it is important to show the current usage and effort we are doing. 2. the live demo must have a common story to tell otherwise they are difficult and boring to follow. my suggestion is to create a simple story around smart city as it was the core topic of the day in seville. 3 the exploitation day, crtically important given the questions and the push they gave in seville, should be well characterised as such. i suggest also for this day all the presentations to share the same structure and be very much conving statements instead of inspiring thougths ... ciao, stefano 2012/11/8 Garino Pierangelo > Dear Juanjo, dear All, the draft looks fine to me, I want just mention two points which might be relevant for the meeting (the first one being the most important): 1) There was a discussion at the last review meeting about the lack of a consistent risk management plan. We had a long discussion between first and second review day, then we had put this point in the agenda of WPL/WPA calls since this summer, but since then we never moved forward. Although this is not one of the checkpoints, I would expect this issue will come out again during the discussions at the review, therefore we should be prepared to answer properly. 2) The second FI-WARE Open Call closed officially yesterday. Obviously this is to be verified (maybe no proposal was submitted!), but if we find out there is a good participation level, it would be worth mentioning this fact as well in the achievements session. Finally, I remember that some of the reviewers, offline, expressed the pity of not having one representative per partner at the review, to talk to them about the project. Maybe it will be necessary having more partner representatives in any case due to the demo setup, and on the other hand sometimes having all the partners might create more troubles than not having them (e.g. provide contradictory answers), however I would suggest we take also this possible aspect into account. BR Pier ________________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro [jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:01 PM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review Dear colleagues, Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following rationale * First day: * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We will also give a glimpse on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) * Second day: * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 9 06:37:41 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:37:41 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> Message-ID: <509C96A5.5060305@tid.es> On 08/11/12 21:16, Garino Pierangelo wrote: > Dear Juanjo, dear All, > > the draft looks fine to me, I want just mention two points which might be relevant for the meeting (the first one being the most important): > > 1) There was a discussion at the last review meeting about the lack of a consistent risk management plan. We had a long discussion between first and second review day, then we had put this point in the agenda of WPL/WPA calls since this summer, but since then we never moved forward. Although this is not one of the checkpoints, I would expect this issue will come out again during the discussions at the review, therefore we should be prepared to answer properly. Good point, we will prepare a risk plan where we will incorporate a description of a) some measurements that we have taken and b) measurements that we plan to put in place > > 2) The second FI-WARE Open Call closed officially yesterday. Obviously this is to be verified (maybe no proposal was submitted!), but if we find out there is a good participation level, it would be worth mentioning this fact as well in the achievements session. I was planning to provide a quick report on Open Calls during the first slot of the Agenda (Summary of Status). Just two slides, one per Open Call. However, thanks for reminding us that we shouldn't forget this point. You are absolutely right. > > Finally, I remember that some of the reviewers, offline, expressed the pity of not having one representative per partner at the review, to talk to them about the project. > Maybe it will be necessary having more partner representatives in any case due to the demo setup, and on the other hand sometimes having all the partners might create more troubles than not having them (e.g. provide contradictory answers), however I would suggest we take also this possible aspect into account. I will send an email to Arian regarding this point and let's see how he reacts. I'm a bit worried that this would mean little reaction from other partners since we would be ask them to attend a little bit late, but it's true that, on the other hand, traveling would not be so difficult/expensive for some of them coming from countries that have a reasonable train or car connection. Best regards, -- Juanjo > > > BR > Pier > > > > ________________________________________ > From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro [jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:01 PM > To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu > Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review > > Dear colleagues, > > Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following rationale > > * First day: > * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We will also give a glimpse > on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab > * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. > * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. > * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) > * Second day: > * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. > * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects > > Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. > > Cheers, > > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 9 07:28:38 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:28:38 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> Message-ID: <509CA296.5040408@tid.es> On 08/11/12 22:04, stefano de panfilis wrote: dear juanjo and all, in addition to the points of pier which i fully buy (although not completely sure we should have the full consortium perhaps juanjo and jose must verify this with arian) i have the following minor points: 1. i realise there is no "official" presentation of the testbed this migth be fine, but requires some serious slides in others presentations (yours?). in this context it is important to show the current usage and effort we are doing. Note that there is a checkpoint (checkpoint 5) where we should address a full presentation of what has been made regarding the FI-WARE Testbed. An URL with the whole set of checkpoints is available at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/179ZoOb14Jcv7UQ2w7TGIvQHXfmVPi8GCHuGljQ80HWM/edit My plan was to discuss on our joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall who may take care of producing the slides linked to each check point. They should plan to present those slides during the first slot of the agenda (that way, it would be more dynamic and not just Jose or me talking during 45 mins). I can anticipate to you (Stefano) that I would kindly ask you to work on the set of slides regarding checkpoint 5. 2. the live demo must have a common story to tell otherwise they are difficult and boring to follow. my suggestion is to create a simple story around smart city as it was the core topic of the day in seville. We have already designed such story. It will incorporate the ability to show the integration of GEs coming from the Cloud, Apps, Data and IoT chapters. We have been working on the matter and several confcalls have taken place on the matter (besides working meeting involving the teams that are actually developing the application-specific aspects of the demo) The demo is about a multi-tenant application, provided as a Service, that manages maintenance of vending machines distributed in several locations across a city. It is a workforce management system to some extend. We show how: * The application provider can rely on Cloud capabilities can be used to host the VMs and the Object Storage (e.g., photos of vending machines taken in the field as to ease location or report on any damage) that the application requires * The application provider can rely on capabilities of the Apps Business framework to deal with publication of the application supporting the ambitioned business model * Developers can build the application using mashup technologies so that part of its UI is configurable and can be enriched with services coming from third application providers. * The application can be acquired and configured by a customer (typically the company dealing with maintenance of a given network of vending machines) * The application will rely at runtime on FI-WARE GEs coming from different chapters, and we will demo their interaction at runtime: * We will be able to show how contextual information (status of vending machines, status of technicians in the field, etc) is gathered at runtime through an application-specific instance of the Pub/Sub Context Broker GE and offered to the application using the FI-WARE NGSI Restful API. Of course, interaction with the IoT world will be mostly simulated (with the exception of the last bullet of this list) but we will illustrate the feasibility. * We will show how the application connects to two global services (i.e., services being offered globally to multiple applications not just the one of the demo), one based on an instance of the FI-WARE Mediator GE that enables to send SMS, and another one based on the FI-WARE Location GE to locate technicians and/or their vans (despite we are not sure yet whether we will be able to show this last one working in the demo). * We will show how technicians can actuate on some real devices (located in Telecom Italia labs in Turin) using services provided by IoT Gateway GEs. Those technicians would be able to switch on or turn off of a vending machine which will be simulated by the switch on and switch off of a real device in Turin. * A customer will be able to enrich the application with services coming out from other applications using WireCloud mashup capabilities * If we have time, we will show how a technician would be able to upload photos of a given vending machine to the application's Object Storage. We wondered whether we could show something on Security Monitoring, but we are waiting for feedback from Thales in this respect. We will also elaborate on how other GEs could be incorporated to enrich the application (this to be shown as plans from the developer or application provider to enrich its offering): * use of the CEP GE to detect some scenarios and perform some action (i.e., reboot a vending machine or display some advertising in the vending machine) * use of the Compressed Domain Video Analysis GE to capture and process video of customers in front of a vending machine to display context-aware advertising (e.g., if the customer is female or he is fat) * use of the BigData Analysis GE to be able to gather statistical data and analyze it to find out what are the most suitable products to be placed in the vending machines. Also to combine statistics about actual consumption of vending machines and mobility of people in the city. * demo how future Security Access Control GE can be used to ensure only proper access is allowed. It is true that the demoscript is not about SmartCities, but it would be easy to extrapolate how it would map into similar applications relevant to the Smart Cities (e.g,, maintenance of urban furniture or buildings, or cleaning services). In this respect, I believe it is not bad to show that FI-WARE is not just tailored to smart cities (we are maybe over emphasizing this when we talk about exploitation plans) We have been working on a demoscript document (with screenshots and messages) since several weeks now and we plan to distribute it among reviewers during the project review. We plan to have a first but rather complete draft of the demoscript ready for distribution by monday. 3 the exploitation day, crtically important given the questions and the push they gave in seville, should be well characterised as such. i suggest also for this day all the presentations to share the same structure and be very much conving statements instead of inspiring thougths ... Do you believe that we should address checkpoint 10 once again ? What certainly needs to cover is checkpoint 11 and there we should prepare well the answer. Let's discuss than during our joint WPLs/WPAs confcall. Best regards, -- Juanjo ciao, stefano 2012/11/8 Garino Pierangelo > Dear Juanjo, dear All, the draft looks fine to me, I want just mention two points which might be relevant for the meeting (the first one being the most important): 1) There was a discussion at the last review meeting about the lack of a consistent risk management plan. We had a long discussion between first and second review day, then we had put this point in the agenda of WPL/WPA calls since this summer, but since then we never moved forward. Although this is not one of the checkpoints, I would expect this issue will come out again during the discussions at the review, therefore we should be prepared to answer properly. 2) The second FI-WARE Open Call closed officially yesterday. Obviously this is to be verified (maybe no proposal was submitted!), but if we find out there is a good participation level, it would be worth mentioning this fact as well in the achievements session. Finally, I remember that some of the reviewers, offline, expressed the pity of not having one representative per partner at the review, to talk to them about the project. Maybe it will be necessary having more partner representatives in any case due to the demo setup, and on the other hand sometimes having all the partners might create more troubles than not having them (e.g. provide contradictory answers), however I would suggest we take also this possible aspect into account. BR Pier ________________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro [jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:01 PM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review Dear colleagues, Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following rationale * First day: * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We will also give a glimpse on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) * Second day: * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 9 07:37:39 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:37:39 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: <509CA296.5040408@tid.es> References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> <509CA296.5040408@tid.es> Message-ID: <509CA4B3.1080108@tid.es> On 09/11/12 07:28, Juanjo Hierro wrote: We will also elaborate on how other GEs could be incorporated to enrich the application (this to be shown as plans from the developer or application provider to enrich its offering): * use of the CEP GE to detect some scenarios and perform some action (i.e., reboot a vending machine or display some advertising in the vending machine) * use of the Compressed Domain Video Analysis GE to capture and process video of customers in front of a vending machine to display context-aware advertising (e.g., if the customer is female or he is fat) * use of the BigData Analysis GE to be able to gather statistical data and analyze it to find out what are the most suitable products to be placed in the vending machines. Also to combine statistics about actual consumption of vending machines and mobility of people in the city. * demo how future Security Access Control GE can be used to ensure only proper access is allowed. We will also elaborate on the application provider/developer plans to: * optimize traffing in its application, taking advantage of IoT Gateway Data Handling GEs as to ensure that some Complex Event Processing takes place closer to the devices. (other ideas about what we could incorporate to this application provider's plan, by means of adding some other FI-WARE GEs is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 9 07:37:54 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:37:54 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: <509CA296.5040408@tid.es> References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> <509CA296.5040408@tid.es> Message-ID: <509CA4C2.2040206@tid.es> On 09/11/12 07:28, Juanjo Hierro wrote: We will also elaborate on how other GEs could be incorporated to enrich the application (this to be shown as plans from the developer or application provider to enrich its offering): * use of the CEP GE to detect some scenarios and perform some action (i.e., reboot a vending machine or display some advertising in the vending machine) * use of the Compressed Domain Video Analysis GE to capture and process video of customers in front of a vending machine to display context-aware advertising (e.g., if the customer is female or he is fat) * use of the BigData Analysis GE to be able to gather statistical data and analyze it to find out what are the most suitable products to be placed in the vending machines. Also to combine statistics about actual consumption of vending machines and mobility of people in the city. * demo how future Security Access Control GE can be used to ensure only proper access is allowed. We will also elaborate on the application provider/developer plans to: * optimize data traffic in its application, taking advantage of IoT Gateway Data Handling GEs as to ensure that some Complex Event Processing takes place closer to the devices. (other ideas about what we could incorporate to this application provider's plan, by means of adding some other FI-WARE GEs is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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I was planning it to be part of the timeslot "Brief on current activities/roadmap per technical WP" (note that I say "WP" instead of "Architecture chapter" and that I mentioned 7 slots, matching WP3-WP9 :-) So yes, you have one slot of 10 mins to elaborate on your current activities and plans regarding Developers' Community Support Tools (the same time as the rest of the partners) BESIDES this, I wanted to ask you to contribute to the presentation linked to checkpoint 7 (this I would say I would like you to present) and 8. Concerning my presence at the review, it is most likely I will be able to be there on Monday early afternoon, not early. I cannot move previous family commitments. Ok. Given the fact that you didn't receive early notice of our plans regarding the reaharsal and review meetings, I believe it's fair (not in the case of the other WPLs who are members of the fiware-pcc mailing list :-) Cheers, -- Juanjo BR, M. Il 08/11/2012 20:01, Juanjo Hierro ha scritto: Dear colleagues, Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following rationale * First day: * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We will also give a glimpse on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) * Second day: * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. 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URL: From nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Fri Nov 9 09:48:13 2012 From: nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu (Nuria De-Lama Sanchez) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:48:13 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints In-Reply-To: <509CB407.9050007@tid.es> References: <509CB407.9050007@tid.es> Message-ID: <66E3B1FDDB04BE4D92DC3A2BA8D98D9A014F695B@INTMAIL03.es.int.atosorigin.com> Thank you Juanjo for all this work. I think the agenda is good and I agree with all the comments distributed by the colleagues so far, which have been taken into consideration based on your answers. I would like to add few points to it: ? Regarding the attendance by more partners I think it could add value provided there is a role for some of these partners. Instead of bringing the whole consortium, which is obviously too big we could select some of the important partners (because of their industrial relevance, importance of work developed in FI-WARE or economic contribution to the project) and recommend their attendance to the meeting. Therefore I would go for a subset of organizations and not the whole group ? Regarding exploitation in the last review one of the first questions we got was: how much money you will invest to go to a production environment and which are your expectations in terms of ROI? The reviewer (this came from the business angel) said that no one gets engaged in such a big thing without making those calculations. The potential in the market with some estimation/figures should not be disregarded in this review based on the way they insisted in the previous one. ? Finally, but you have probably covered this in other presentations I would try to highlight the importance of the Use Case projects in the overall process (It is to say, that their inputs are valuable and are driving part of our work) The last point brings me to point out one issue for the risk management: FI-WARE has repeated several times that setting up the collaboration with the other projects took quite a lot of time until there was a common understanding. Since new Use Case projects will start in few months (and may be different from the ones we have now), is there a plan prepared by FI-WARE to address this ensuring the smooth transition between Phase I projects and Phase II projects? I hope it helps, Nuria de Lama Research & Innovation Representative to the European Commission T +34 91214 9321 F +34 91754 3252 nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Albarrac?n 25 28037 Madrid Spain www.atosresearch.eu es.atos.net ________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro Sent: viernes, 09 de noviembre de 2012 8:43 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints Hi all, Here you are a shared spreadsheet where I have tried to capture my proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdGdrV1dZX2ZPMi1pWDlJQVF5anJIalE#gid=0 For each of the checkpoints I have proposed: * A target duration of the presentation at the review. This is obviously a first take, i.e., something to discuss on Monday. * A proposal on who may present the slides elaborating on how we have covered the point * A proposal on the team I believe must work on the slides. Of course, additional volunteers are welcome. * Some comments regarding aspects to be takent into account during preparation of the slides. Feel free to add any additional comments that may be relevant. Hope you will find this useful as preparation for our joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall where this will be certainly one of the points addressed. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 816 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 9 09:54:42 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:54:42 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: <26550_1352409094_509C2006_26550_4852_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C076708@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> <26550_1352409094_509C2006_26550_4852_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C076708@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <509CC4D2.2030408@tid.es> On 08/11/12 22:11, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo and all, I agree with Stefano that we should introduce the demo by a testbed presentation at least to introduce what we will use during the demo. The testbed will introduced in the first slot as one of our major achievements. Further elaboration on the testbed would come in the slot dealing checkpoint 5. That is my proposed approach. Note that I believe that we should go for the Live Demo before the checkpoints because we want to show that we are delivering software that works. For the story-board of the demo, I think we have it but it is not fully align with Smart Cities but as we have to support many UC projects I do not think this is a major point which could take lots of time. Agree. See also my elaboration on this point in my response to Stefano's email. As explained before the review in Seville, we will not do the same speech during the review in Brussels especially for the exploitation part so what is really expected. Going through all individual exploitation plans would take hours and could push reviewers to ask new questions if all the exploitations plans are not aligned. Could you clarify what are your expectations regarding this point? I agree we shouldn't go for just reviewing individual exploitation plans. This is a point on which I would leave Jose the actual leadership. I will try to support but my throughput is limited. My vision on the matter is that we should elaborate more on the ideas about how to build an ecosystem leveraging on: * The FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab concept * The FI-WARE Catalogue * The active role that the Capacity Building project and the Trial projects should assume regarding support to deployment of applications being experimented in the Open Innovation Lab * A rather proactive plan, with enough resources assigned, to attract the wide community of developers. As you know, here the EC is willing to devote the budget booked for the 3rd Open Call on promotion activities. I believe that this is a great idea because certainly setting up and implementing the kind of ambitious plan you would need to put in place to boost awareness first, adoption later, by the wide community of developers, would need to invest resources and skills not foreseen initially in the FI-WARE proposal (that's why using Open Call funds would qualify, I guess) * Ability to connect to the ICT Labs (I rather believe this won't make the difference, but it may be worth to consider) * Push for allocation of funding regarding development of FI-WARE based applications in national R&D programs (this way trying to expand the number of SMEs that wold get funded because of experimenting with FI-WARE, going beyond was is planned in phase 3 of the FI-PPP) * Push the EC for adopting FI-WARE in some of its procurement processes (why not ? It's time also to ask the EC "ala JFK" "don't ask what FI-WARE can do for you but what you can do for FI-WARE", and certainly the EC can do more than just bring some funding, which is not the most critical/difficult part) * Push the EC for adopting FI-WARE in some other areas: * what about the Cloud infrastructure that the EC is planning to put in place as replacement/extension of the EDGEE grid ? * what about pushing for making regular FP7 projects to include clauses in their DoWs regarding collaboration with FI-WARE and carrying out their experiments on the Open Innovation Lab ? They "force" current FP7 projects (at least in the Software and Services Unit) to include statements about collaboration with other FP7 projects in the Communicaton, Collaboration and Dissemination WPs, so they can do this. We can sell this as joint expoitation plan. See the slides I present in Sevilla (second part) for reference. Just my two cents :-) Cheers, -- Juanjo BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de stefano de panfilis Envoy? : jeudi 8 novembre 2012 22:04 ? : Garino Pierangelo Cc : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review dear juanjo and all, in addition to the points of pier which i fully buy (although not completely sure we should have the full consortium perhaps juanjo and jose must verify this with arian) i have the following minor points: 1. i realise there is no "official" presentation of the testbed this migth be fine, but requires some serious slides in others presentations (yours?). in this context it is important to show the current usage and effort we are doing. 2. the live demo must have a common story to tell otherwise they are difficult and boring to follow. my suggestion is to create a simple story around smart city as it was the core topic of the day in seville. 3 the exploitation day, crtically important given the questions and the push they gave in seville, should be well characterised as such. i suggest also for this day all the presentations to share the same structure and be very much conving statements instead of inspiring thougths ... ciao, stefano 2012/11/8 Garino Pierangelo > Dear Juanjo, dear All, the draft looks fine to me, I want just mention two points which might be relevant for the meeting (the first one being the most important): 1) There was a discussion at the last review meeting about the lack of a consistent risk management plan. We had a long discussion between first and second review day, then we had put this point in the agenda of WPL/WPA calls since this summer, but since then we never moved forward. Although this is not one of the checkpoints, I would expect this issue will come out again during the discussions at the review, therefore we should be prepared to answer properly. 2) The second FI-WARE Open Call closed officially yesterday. Obviously this is to be verified (maybe no proposal was submitted!), but if we find out there is a good participation level, it would be worth mentioning this fact as well in the achievements session. Finally, I remember that some of the reviewers, offline, expressed the pity of not having one representative per partner at the review, to talk to them about the project. Maybe it will be necessary having more partner representatives in any case due to the demo setup, and on the other hand sometimes having all the partners might create more troubles than not having them (e.g. provide contradictory answers), however I would suggest we take also this possible aspect into account. BR Pier ________________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro [jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:01 PM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review Dear colleagues, Please find enclosed a first draft agenda for our FI-WARE Project Review meeint on Nov 28-29. I have structured it according to the following rationale * First day: * First we start providing a summary of the status, underlying major achievements (availability of the Testbed, FI-WARE Catalogue, selection of beneficiaries from 1st Open Call ...) and activities we have carried out to recover. The message to bring is that we have made quite a hughe effort to bring the project to a state where we have recover from major issues. We will also give a glimpse on what comes next: evolution of FI-WARE GEs and further integration of FI-WARE GEs, everything targeted to deliver the second Release and the launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab * Second we will directly go to the demo to show that it's not just about words, but software that works, also to illustrate that we have a vision on how FI-WARE GEs together fit the needs of the different stakeholders: developers, application providers and end users. * Third we will elaborate, one by one, on the different checkpoints, to show that we have covered them or have made good progress addressing them. * What comes next during the first day is relatively auxiliary. The previous points are the ones which will determine whether we will succeed or not :-) * Second day: * Despite we have addressed checkpoint 11 in the first day (as one of the checkpoints), it would be worth to elaborate on exploitation plans further and report on what has been done in that WP. Since reviewers and the EC have always pointed out this is a critical point, I believe it was worth resuming the second day covering the business and exploitation related aspects again. We may even refine some of the messages delivered in the previous day. * Rest of the day is more or less standard ... probably highlight that during the presentation of the collaboration, communication and dissemination we will elaborate on new processes established with UC projects Your comments are welcome. Our plan is to send it by EOB tomorrow, so please react quickly. 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Also, since the demo involves a very complex environment, I would recommend having a recorded version (maybe even several iterations). We really don't want to fail in this. Regards, Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: Juanjo Hierro To: stefano de panfilis , Cc: "fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" Date: 09/11/2012 08:38 AM Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu On 09/11/12 07:28, Juanjo Hierro wrote: We will also elaborate on how other GEs could be incorporated to enrich the application (this to be shown as plans from the developer or application provider to enrich its offering): use of the CEP GE to detect some scenarios and perform some action (i.e., reboot a vending machine or display some advertising in the vending machine) use of the Compressed Domain Video Analysis GE to capture and process video of customers in front of a vending machine to display context-aware advertising (e.g., if the customer is female or he is fat) use of the BigData Analysis GE to be able to gather statistical data and analyze it to find out what are the most suitable products to be placed in the vending machines. Also to combine statistics about actual consumption of vending machines and mobility of people in the city. demo how future Security Access Control GE can be used to ensure only proper access is allowed. We will also elaborate on the application provider/developer plans to: optimize data traffic in its application, taking advantage of IoT Gateway Data Handling GEs as to ensure that some Complex Event Processing takes place closer to the devices. (other ideas about what we could incorporate to this application provider's plan, by means of adding some other FI-WARE GEs is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Fri Nov 9 11:20:56 2012 From: nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu (Nuria De-Lama Sanchez) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:20:56 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints In-Reply-To: <509CD678.1060204@eng.it> References: <509CB407.9050007@tid.es> <66E3B1FDDB04BE4D92DC3A2BA8D98D9A014F695B@INTMAIL03.es.int.atosorigin.com> <509CD678.1060204@eng.it> Message-ID: <66E3B1FDDB04BE4D92DC3A2BA8D98D9A014F69B1@INTMAIL03.es.int.atosorigin.com> In principle that is the point that was specifically addressed in the meeting we had last Monday in Seville. We will probably get some comments from them on that in the next review meeting. Unfortunately we did not get any assessment there. Nuria de Lama Research & Innovation Representative to the European Commission T +34 91214 9321 F +34 91754 3252 nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Albarrac?n 25 28037 Madrid Spain www.atosresearch.eu es.atos.net ________________________________ From: Matteo Melideo [mailto:matteo.melideo at eng.it] Sent: viernes, 09 de noviembre de 2012 11:10 To: Nuria De-Lama Sanchez Cc: Juanjo Hierro; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints Always concerning the exploitation, I also remember that the reviewers explicitly asked for Directors or Company decision makers from SAP, TID, TELECOM and FRANCETELECOM, and someone else. Has this problem been solved with the P.O.? BR M. Il 09/11/2012 09:48, Nuria De-Lama Sanchez ha scritto: Thank you Juanjo for all this work. I think the agenda is good and I agree with all the comments distributed by the colleagues so far, which have been taken into consideration based on your answers. I would like to add few points to it: ? Regarding the attendance by more partners I think it could add value provided there is a role for some of these partners. Instead of bringing the whole consortium, which is obviously too big we could select some of the important partners (because of their industrial relevance, importance of work developed in FI-WARE or economic contribution to the project) and recommend their attendance to the meeting. Therefore I would go for a subset of organizations and not the whole group ? Regarding exploitation in the last review one of the first questions we got was: how much money you will invest to go to a production environment and which are your expectations in terms of ROI? The reviewer (this came from the business angel) said that no one gets engaged in such a big thing without making those calculations. The potential in the market with some estimation/figures should not be disregarded in this review based on the way they insisted in the previous one. ? Finally, but you have probably covered this in other presentations I would try to highlight the importance of the Use Case projects in the overall process (It is to say, that their inputs are valuable and are driving part of our work) The last point brings me to point out one issue for the risk management: FI-WARE has repeated several times that setting up the collaboration with the other projects took quite a lot of time until there was a common understanding. Since new Use Case projects will start in few months (and may be different from the ones we have now), is there a plan prepared by FI-WARE to address this ensuring the smooth transition between Phase I projects and Phase II projects? I hope it helps, Nuria de Lama Research & Innovation Representative to the European Commission T +34 91214 9321 F +34 91754 3252 nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Albarrac?n 25 28037 Madrid Spain www.atosresearch.eu es.atos.net ________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro Sent: viernes, 09 de noviembre de 2012 8:43 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints Hi all, Here you are a shared spreadsheet where I have tried to capture my proposal on caretakers and duration of presentations covering FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdGdrV1dZX2ZPMi1pWDlJQVF5anJIalE#gid=0 For each of the checkpoints I have proposed: * A target duration of the presentation at the review. This is obviously a first take, i.e., something to discuss on Monday. * A proposal on who may present the slides elaborating on how we have covered the point * A proposal on the team I believe must work on the slides. Of course, additional volunteers are welcome. * Some comments regarding aspects to be takent into account during preparation of the slides. Feel free to add any additional comments that may be relevant. Hope you will find this useful as preparation for our joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall where this will be certainly one of the points addressed. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 816 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Fri Nov 9 18:12:29 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 18:12:29 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Draft agenda proposal for the FI-WARE Project Review In-Reply-To: <509CC4D2.2030408@tid.es> References: <509C016D.4060909@tid.es> <26550_1352409094_509C2006_26550_4852_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C076708@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <509CC4D2.2030408@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo, some additional points about exploitation. As explained before the review in Seville, we will not do the same speech > during the review in Brussels especially for the exploitation part so what > is really expected. Going through all individual exploitation plans would > take hours and could push reviewers to ask new questions if all the > exploitations plans are not aligned. Could you clarify what are your > expectations regarding this point? > > > I agree we shouldn't go for just reviewing individual exploitation > plans. This is a point on which I would leave Jose the actual leadership. > I will try to support but my throughput is limited. My vision on the > matter is that we should elaborate more on the ideas about how to build an > ecosystem leveraging on: > > - The FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab concept > - The FI-WARE Catalogue > - The active role that the Capacity Building project and the Trial > projects should assume regarding support to deployment of applications > being experimented in the Open Innovation Lab > - A rather proactive plan, with enough resources assigned, to attract > the wide community of developers. As you know, here the EC is willing to > devote the budget booked for the 3rd Open Call on promotion activities. I > believe that this is a great idea because certainly setting up and > implementing the kind of ambitious plan you would need to put in place to > boost awareness first, adoption later, by the wide community of developers, > would need to invest resources and skills not foreseen initially in the > FI-WARE proposal (that's why using Open Call funds would qualify, I guess) > - Ability to connect to the ICT Labs (I rather believe this won't make > the difference, but it may be worth to consider) > - Push for allocation of funding regarding development of FI-WARE > based applications in national R&D programs (this way trying to expand the > number of SMEs that wold get funded because of experimenting with FI-WARE, > going beyond was is planned in phase 3 of the FI-PPP) > - Push the EC for adopting FI-WARE in some of its procurement > processes (why not ? It's time also to ask the EC "ala JFK" "don't ask > what FI-WARE can do for you but what you can do for FI-WARE", and certainly > the EC can do more than just bring some funding, which is not the most > critical/difficult part) > - Push the EC for adopting FI-WARE in some other areas: > - what about the Cloud infrastructure that the EC is planning to > put in place as replacement/extension of the EDGEE grid ? > - what about pushing for making regular FP7 projects to include > clauses in their DoWs regarding collaboration with FI-WARE and carrying out > their experiments on the Open Innovation Lab ? They "force" current FP7 > projects (at least in the Software and Services Unit) to include statements > about collaboration with other FP7 projects in the Communicaton, > Collaboration and Dissemination WPs, so they can do this. > > > We can sell this as joint expoitation plan. See the slides I present > in Sevilla (second part) for reference. > somehow i do agree on all the above points, but this are credible only if there is real committment by the industrial fi-ware players, i.e. US! what i want to say here is that if the gei owners show a concrete plan based on a clear "terms and conditions of usage" of their gei than everything is concrete otherwise is the usual bla bla nice even interesting, but nothing more than bla bla from the seville pre-review it is clear that the ec this time really wants something more: they see the possibility that real technologies migth come out from an initiative initiated by them and certainly they do not want to loose this possibility. peter clearly stated we are discussing becouse this time we have something working!!! in fact, dear juanjo, how we can ask the ec to use and adopt fi-ware technologies if the companies who owns the implementation do not committ behind those technologies? this can only be achieved by stating clearly "terms and conditions of usage". so, i'm afraid, individual plans from gei owners not only are needed, but mandatory! for what concerns engineering this is very clear: provision of our assets as floss and professional rates for technical support. is that so complicated to ask all the others to elaborate their plans? ciao, stefano -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon Nov 12 16:47:15 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:47:15 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Presentation accompanying forward-looking discussion on take-up of FI-WARE results during the meeting in Sevilla Message-ID: <50A11A03.8060809@tid.es> Dear Arian and Peter, Please find enclosed a copy of a new version of the presentation I used during our forward-looking discussion on take-up of FI-WARE results during the meeting in Sevilla. The presentation is structured in two parts: * One focused on the discussion about Use Terms and Conditions of FI-WARE GE implementations beyond the FI-PPP and the lifetime of FI-WARE. We are further developing the proposed approach in order to address comments and recommendations given during the Seville meeting. Nevertheless we have tried to capture the current status of the discussion so far, which you will see described more concretely in the attached slides. * Another one focused on complementary actions we believe are required beyond commitment of the FI-WARE partners. We believe that they are rather important, so the EC should not minimize their impact in helping to the take-up of FI-WARE results Please feel free to share with projects reviewers if you feel it is suitable. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image002.png at 01CDC1C2.8C41A160] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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BR From: Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 10:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu; Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; ? the management procedures and methods of the project; ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Dienstag, 13. November 2012 17:19 To: Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC1C8.B44DF400] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: SAP-FI-PPP_Exploitation_final.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1087414 bytes Desc: SAP-FI-PPP_Exploitation_final.pdf URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Wed Nov 14 08:20:55 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:20:55 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] R: Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175003F16@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175003F16@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear Axel, Thanks for distributing SAP presentation. just one remark about the accessibility of files: the folder created to store the slides presented in Seville belongs to the "FI-WARE-private" Forge project, which means is more restrictive than the one accessible to PPP members. Indeed this project can be accessed only by FI-WARE people registered to that project, the link is not available among the projects active on the Forger site, and even the list of members is not visibile to non members. BR Pier Da: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Inviato: marted? 13 novembre 2012 18:00 A: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Riss, Uwe; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, I have attached the PDF Version of the slides that SAP has presented in Seville. Because of the fact that I have to ensure that the slides are exclusively assessable for PPP Members, I am not quite sure where I have to store the slides to fulfill this constraint. Does the created folder fulfill this requirement? >From my point of view the event in Seville was a FI-WARE internal Meeting and because of that, it should not be a problem to have a restricted access to the presentations. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Dienstag, 13. November 2012 17:19 To: Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC240.7149F460] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Wed Nov 14 08:43:30 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:43:30 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC244.1F0E54D0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC343.168CBE00] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From jimenez at tid.es Thu Nov 15 15:20:54 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:20:54 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-exploitation] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC344.CB7A1320] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FW: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:22:49 +0000 From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO To: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Dear all Please do not forget to send us the names and ID of the people attending the review!! BR From: Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 10:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu; Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; ? the management procedures and methods of the project; ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Please reply to Jose, with cc/ me. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FW: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:22:49 +0000 From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO To: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Dear all Please do not forget to send us the names and ID of the people attending the review!! BR From: Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 10:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu; Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; ? the management procedures and methods of the project; ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 ? Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Mon Nov 19 09:52:53 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:52:53 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Fwd: FW: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting In-Reply-To: <50A9BCE8.9030501@tid.es> References: <50A9BB9C.5070701@tid.es> <50A9BCE8.9030501@tid.es> Message-ID: <17544_1353315174_50A9F366_17544_2043_3_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C0833D5@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Hi All, Juanjo I?ve just added the ID Card column because we have normally to provide this kind of detail. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : lundi 19 novembre 2012 06:00 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Fwd: FW: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting To ease the exercise, please add your name in the new sheet "Atendees" that I have created in the Google docs spreadsheet we are sharing with details about the agenda and presentations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdGdrV1dZX2ZPMi1pWDlJQVF5anJIalE#gid=2 Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 19/11/12 05:54, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Hi, A kindly reminder to send us the names of the people who will attend the review. Please reply to Jose, with cc/ me. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FW: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:22:49 +0000 From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO To: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Dear all Please do not forget to send us the names and ID of the people attending the review!! BR From: Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu [mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 10:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu; Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu; msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; ? the management procedures and methods of the project; ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 ? Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" To: Garino Pierangelo CC: "Kennedy, John M" Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:00000000000000000000000000000003 at TI.Disclaimer]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Garino Pierangelo Envoy? : lundi 19 novembre 2012 17:01 ? : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] I: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear PCC members, I have received the mail below from Intel asking to attend the review meeting as further support of the project Team. You might remember that personally I'd be in favour of having (all) partners present, but due to the size of the project and other considerations this wouldn't be so simple. Can we agree on the answer to be sent to Intel (and to any other partner proposing the same)? I add that due to the partner's impact it might be a good thing to involve them. Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" > To: Garino Pierangelo > CC: "Kennedy, John M" > Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon Nov 19 17:41:28 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:41:28 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review In-Reply-To: <17752_1353342745_50AA5F19_17752_7196_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083760@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <17752_1353342745_50AA5F19_17752_7196_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083760@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <50AA6138.8040504@tid.es> It's fine with me as well. ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 19/11/12 17:32, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Pier, As Intel is member of the consortium and could give a good feedback how to use Fi-Ware results, it is fine for me that they attend the review meeting. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Garino Pierangelo Envoy? : lundi 19 novembre 2012 17:01 ? : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] I: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear PCC members, I have received the mail below from Intel asking to attend the review meeting as further support of the project Team. You might remember that personally I'd be in favour of having (all) partners present, but due to the size of the project and other considerations this wouldn't be so simple. Can we agree on the answer to be sent to Intel (and to any other partner proposing the same)? I add that due to the partner's impact it might be a good thing to involve them. Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" > To: Garino Pierangelo > CC: "Kennedy, John M" > Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mcp at tid.es Mon Nov 19 18:03:42 2012 From: mcp at tid.es (Miguel Carrillo) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:03:42 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] FuNeMS 2013 and FI-WARE Message-ID: <50AA666E.50108@tid.es> Dear All, We received this request from Antonio Cimmino weeks ago and I intended to discuss it in the context of the WPL/WPA meeting. For different reasons this has not been possible in the last ones and I do not want to put it off any longer. I ignore if FI-WARE belongs to EC E1 (new D1) and if this applies or not. In any case it looks like Antonio suggests to have Fi-WARE represented either way. Antonio volunteers if necessary but maybe any of you want to take part in this as well. Best regards, Miguel ================ Dear Javier, Nuria I am contacting you concerning the FuNeMS 2013 (03-05.07.13 - Lisbon) TPC. ALU, Didier is working within the Steering Committee on the FuNeMS preparation, one of the actions being related to the TPC. The idea is to have all EC E1 (E1 is the new D1 Unit (Network Technologies)). projects represented within the TPC. I do not know if FI PPP belongs to the E1 but probably FIWARE could appoint a delegate to the TPC as well. Do you have any preference? Eventually i'm available as representative of FIWARE within the activities of dissemintation let me know .antonio -- Antonio Cimmino Alcatel-Lucent Optics Eu Cooperation programs -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _/ _/_/ Miguel Carrillo Pacheco _/ _/ _/ _/ Telef?nica Distrito Telef?nica _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Investigaci?n y Edifico Oeste 1, Planta 9 _/ _/ _/ _/ Desarrollo Ronda de la Comunicaci?n S/N _/ _/_/ 28050 Madrid (Spain) Tel: (+34) 91 483 26 77 e-mail: mcp at tid.es Follow FI-WARE on the net Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: http://twitter.com/Fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. 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But that's a minor topic. Maybe Telefonica can check and decide this before we give an official answer. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Garino Pierangelo Sent: Montag, 19. November 2012 17:01 To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-pcc] I: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear PCC members, I have received the mail below from Intel asking to attend the review meeting as further support of the project Team. You might remember that personally I'd be in favour of having (all) partners present, but due to the size of the project and other considerations this wouldn't be so simple. Can we agree on the answer to be sent to Intel (and to any other partner proposing the same)? I add that due to the partner's impact it might be a good thing to involve them. Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" > To: Garino Pierangelo > CC: "Kennedy, John M" > Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From jimenez at tid.es Tue Nov 20 08:27:07 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 07:27:07 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176986226@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176986226@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear Axel, Pier, all I propose we do it the other way round. We need WPL as usual at the meeting. If other companies, beyond that, are interested in attending, particularly to show commitment in commercialization issues, we can ask for space at the EC. Just indicate your data at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdGdrV1dZX2ZPMi1pWDlJQVF5anJIalE#gid=2 BR De: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] En nombre de Fasse, Axel Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 8:04 Para: Garino Pierangelo CC: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear Pier, from my point of view it would be a good idea if more (all) partners could participate in the review meeting. ? We can show commitment ? Questions of the reviewers could be clarified / discussed ? ... But I am not sure if we are re-arrange the rooms for the meeting. During the last Reviews we have had small rooms. Beside this, it might be the case that some of the partner will complain because of the short-time invitation. But that's a minor topic. Maybe Telefonica can check and decide this before we give an official answer. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Garino Pierangelo Sent: Montag, 19. November 2012 17:01 To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-pcc] I: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear PCC members, I have received the mail below from Intel asking to attend the review meeting as further support of the project Team. You might remember that personally I'd be in favour of having (all) partners present, but due to the size of the project and other considerations this wouldn't be so simple. Can we agree on the answer to be sent to Intel (and to any other partner proposing the same)? I add that due to the partner's impact it might be a good thing to involve them. Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" > To: Garino Pierangelo > CC: "Kennedy, John M" > Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: VERY IMPORTANT TASK TO COMPLETE ASAP BY ALL FI-WARE GEi owners: Use Terms and Conditions linked to FI-WARE GE implementation products Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:25:47 +0100 From: Juanjo Hierro To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear colleagues, As announced last Friday, we have already created a new tab on "Terms and Conditions" for each entry in the FI-WARE Catalogue. We have developed a powerpoint presentation describing the overall approach to be followed to update FI-WARE Catalogue entries, plus a .docx guide containing paragraph templates you may use to complete the task. You cand download both from: * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/1649/Approach+on+FI-WARE+Terms+and+Conditions+beyond+the+FI-PPP+and+lifetime+of+the+project++12-11-15.pptx * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/1650/FI-WARE+Use+Terms+and+Conditions+12-11-20.docx We need this task force to be completed before the FI-WARE Project Review scheduled for November 28-29. As already mentioned (see previous mail attached to this one), this task force is key to address one of the most critical requirements by the EC about sustainability of FI-WARE GE implementations (also probably the most relevant checkpoint that will be evaluated by the EC and the reviewer during our next review). FI-WARE GEi owners are asked to provide contents for the new "Terms and Conditions" tab and also update the contents of the "Instances" and "Downloads" tabs as soon as possible. Providing contents to the "Experimentation/testing within the scope of the FI-PPP" section under the "Terms and Conditions" tab would be mandatory prior the review meeting (this means just adding a standard text provided in the .docx guide above). You must also place the entries describing current instances that are listed under the "Instances" tab within a section titled "Experimental instances" which should start with the paragraph proposed in the .docx guide. Besides, you must add the paragraph proposed in the .docx guide to the "Downloads" tab. Last but not least, it will be highly desirable that you also incorporate a section on "External availability" under the "Terms and Conditions" tab before the review meeting. Check the .docx guide for suggested paragraph templates. If you cannot provide this on time for the review, you should inform us prior to the review meeting when you plan to publish the contents for such section on the FI-WARE Catalogue. We will share that info only to the EC and reviewers during the review. Please do so by means of completing the following spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdDdGQnl1eTRSLXdRSHd5cHd4LUhnOFE If you believe the info in that spreadsheet is not accurate and needs to be updated (e.g., name of the FI-WARE GEi), don't hesitate to do so. Note that the complete contents of the "Use Terms and Conditions", including the section on "External availability", must be clear before delivery of the FI-WARE 2nd Release on the FI-WARE Testbed, i.e., launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab. However, the EC has requested that the "Use Terms and Conditions" get published definitively earlier than the start date of the 2nd Phase of the FI-PPP, which is scheduled for April 2013. Concretely, the EC would like to see that the contents published in the "Use Terms and Conditions" tab for each FI-WARE GE implementation (GEi) brings enough information that express clear commitment by the corresponding FI-WARE owner on sustainability of the FI-WARE GEi outside the scope of the FI-PPP (External Availability) before a meeting with Mrs Neelie Kroes, scheduled to take place at the beginning of 2013 (no date is fixed yet). Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 16/11/12 16:00, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear FI-WARE colleagues, This mail is mostly devoted to partners who are owner of some FI-WARE GE Implementation (GEi) product being contributed to FI-WARE. I guess this means most if not all of you :-) I'm sending it to the fiware mailing list rather than only to the FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs to make sure that it arrives you as soon as possible. As you may know, one of the key concerns raised by the EC regarding FI-WARE is the sustainability of FI-WARE GEs not only within the FI-PPP program but also external to the FI-PPP and beyond the lifetime of the FI-WARE project. Indeed, one of the checkpoints that the EC and reviewers have marked as critical for the project review specifies the following: For each GE reference implementation: documentation should be provided that states the conditions under which it will be made available to FI-PPP programme participants and third parties beyond the lifetime of FI-WARE In order to cope with this request we will implement a number of changes in the FI-WARE Catalogue targeted to provide a new tab where FI-WARE GEi owners will be able to state the "Use terms & conditions" that will apply to their FI-WARE GEis: * for Experimentation/testing within the scope of the FI-PPP * for use under the umbrella of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab (check description of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab in the DoW) * for any other use (External availability) Enclosed, you will find a presentation and accompanying document that provide a detailed description of the approach to follow. The target goal is that the structural changes in the catalogue will be ready early next week. Following to that, FI-WARE GEi owners are asked to provide contents for the new tab and also refine contents of the "Instances" and "Downloads" tab as soon as possible. It will be highly desirable that it will be before the FI-WARE M18 Project Review scheduled for November 28-29, 2012. Otherwise, be able to deliver at the meeting a target date at which use terms and conditions for external availability will be published. Note that "Use Terms and Conditions" should be clear before delivery of the FI-WARE 2nd Release on the FI-WARE Testbed, i.e., launch of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab. You will find detailed guidelines that may help you in fulfilling this request in the attached .docx. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From GLIKSON at il.ibm.com Tue Nov 20 08:28:09 2012 From: GLIKSON at il.ibm.com (Alex Glikson) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:28:09 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176986226@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176986226@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: John is a nice guy, so I don't mind if he attends (although I don't think his attendance is needed from WP4 perspective). Regarding the broader question of inviting additional partners to the review -- there are pro's and con's (maybe more pro's than con's), but I think it is too late now for this review. Regards, Alex From: "Fasse, Axel" To: Garino Pierangelo , Cc: "fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu" Date: 20/11/2012 09:03 AM Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Sent by: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear Pier, from my point of view it would be a good idea if more (all) partners could participate in the review meeting. ? We can show commitment ? Questions of the reviewers could be clarified / discussed ? ? But I am not sure if we are re-arrange the rooms for the meeting. During the last Reviews we have had small rooms. Beside this, it might be the case that some of the partner will complain because of the short-time invitation. But that?s a minor topic. Maybe Telefonica can check and decide this before we give an official answer. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [ mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Garino Pierangelo Sent: Montag, 19. November 2012 17:01 To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-pcc] I: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear PCC members, I have received the mail below from Intel asking to attend the review meeting as further support of the project Team. You might remember that personally I'd be in favour of having (all) partners present, but due to the size of the project and other considerations this wouldn't be so simple. Can we agree on the answer to be sent to Intel (and to any other partner proposing the same)? I add that due to the partner's impact it might be a good thing to involve them. Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" To: Garino Pierangelo CC: "Kennedy, John M" Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Tue Nov 20 08:45:27 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:45:27 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] R: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176986226@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear All, As the feedback from PCC members was positive, I'll tell Intel to indicate their presence in the spreadsheet provided by Jose. BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: marted? 20 novembre 2012 08:27 A: Fasse, Axel; Garino Pierangelo Cc: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear Axel, Pier, all I propose we do it the other way round. We need WPL as usual at the meeting. If other companies, beyond that, are interested in attending, particularly to show commitment in commercialization issues, we can ask for space at the EC. Just indicate your data at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdGdrV1dZX2ZPMi1pWDlJQVF5anJIalE#gid=2 BR De: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] En nombre de Fasse, Axel Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 8:04 Para: Garino Pierangelo CC: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear Pier, from my point of view it would be a good idea if more (all) partners could participate in the review meeting. * We can show commitment * Questions of the reviewers could be clarified / discussed * ... But I am not sure if we are re-arrange the rooms for the meeting. During the last Reviews we have had small rooms. Beside this, it might be the case that some of the partner will complain because of the short-time invitation. But that's a minor topic. Maybe Telefonica can check and decide this before we give an official answer. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Garino Pierangelo Sent: Montag, 19. November 2012 17:01 To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-pcc] I: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review Dear PCC members, I have received the mail below from Intel asking to attend the review meeting as further support of the project Team. You might remember that personally I'd be in favour of having (all) partners present, but due to the size of the project and other considerations this wouldn't be so simple. Can we agree on the answer to be sent to Intel (and to any other partner proposing the same)? I add that due to the partner's impact it might be a good thing to involve them. Thanks an BR Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- Subject: Intel attendance at FI-WARE Review From: "Woods, Chris" > To: Garino Pierangelo > CC: "Kennedy, John M" > Hi Pier, Intel would like to have a representative at the forthcoming review meeting. John Kennedy has volunteered to be present for the review meeting. Can you confirm the following dates and provide more detailed information on the review venue? 26-27 November - Rehearsal 28-29 November - Review Location: Brussels Given the outcome of the previous review we feel that it would be important for a member of Intel to be present to provide any support required, answering any questions about the work we are involved in, current workload, plans for exploitation and dissemination etc. I hope these plans will help in the I2ND, Cloud work package and indeed overall project reviews. Many thanks, Chris Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CDC6FB.639A9B20]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From jimenez at tid.es Tue Nov 20 15:30:42 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:30:42 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] governance document In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, I have received no reaction to my mail on governance (attached) I understand, therefore, that you accept our proposal BR De: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] En nombre de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 14:06 Para: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: [Fiware-pcc] governance document Dear PCC Even if I think most of you are aware from other sources, I am circulating the draft governance document as drafted by the g13 group chaired by Thales. We need to set our position on this document. In principle, we think the ideas put forward in the document can be acceptable. However, it should be clear that 1) There are many difficulties in really getting the executive board running because it will be difficult to get the right people attending. 2) It could imply a higher cost to FI-WARE that we cannot accept Do you agree with that position?. Should we accept and agree with the proposals? We are going to have a meeting with the EC end of November and would need to establish our position as a project Best regards --- Jose Jimenez Telefonica I+D (34) 91 482 2660 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC748.0EE9D2B0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From jhierro at tid.es Tue Nov 20 21:45:08 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:45:08 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT: Comments/requests from Arian regarding the agenda of the review meeting In-Reply-To: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D4DB2C@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D4DB2C@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: <50ABEBD4.9090106@tid.es> Hi, Please find below the comments and requests that Arian has just sent to us regarding the agenda for the review (only 5 days before :-) I have to confess that I got crazy in a first approach when I read it ... but then I calmed down and I believe we can face it in a constructive way :-): * Points 2), 4) and even 5) may be taken as part of we had to prepare as presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ... I don't see a particular issue with that ... It's true that some questions may be tough to respond but better to know them in advance than having to respond to them by surprise at the review. Actually, they are providing here valuable information that should help us to prepare better the part of the presentations that was covering those checkpoints. * I have to confess that point 3) was totally unexpected ... However, I believe it should fit pretty well within the presentation on FI-WARE Value Proposition. Indeed, there was valuable content that we generated in that deliverable that should have taken into account for that presentation (and may have even taken into account already) * Regarding the live demo, I believe that we should respond giving them more details about the planned demo, explaining Arian and reviewers that what we are trying to achieve with the demo is much more ambitious than going through isolated demos of FI-WARE GEs standalone "in a row" ... Our planned live demo explains how different GEs can be used for the same application and also elaborates on how different phases in the lifecycle of an application are supported (note that Cloud or marketplace aspects are just ignored) ... Probably they were not expecting such a complete demo but a sequence of demos of some of the GEs ... therefore they were just asking to choose which ones ... I guess that we may convince them that what we propose is better. Alternatively, we may program a short webinar of some of the GEs not presented in the demo they are asking for. I would bet for the Proton CEP. I wonder whether one on the Mobile CEP Engine is also feasible (I have checked and the webinar on the IoT Gateway Data Handling GE is not planned until Dec 4th ...) Honestly speaking, I believe it doesn't make sense to plan one for the Ericsson Composition Engine or the Mashup Factory given the fact that sustainability of both is currently in question. * Point 6) is probably the more tricky point ... what would you interpret that they are expecting when they refer to "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? Aren't we addressing this to some extend in the presentation regarding Explotation or also the one on "Value Proposition" ? Your response to the following questions is needed so that we can elaborate a response to Arian: * Stefano: do you think we can address well points 2, 4 and 5 asked by Arian and the reviewers within the presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ? I believe so but wanted to check your opinion. Of course, you can count on me for helping to develop the slides. If you agree, we may respond Arian that those points are going to be address there. * SAP and the team working in the presentation regarding the FI-WARE Value Proposition: may you integrate presentation of the "Third Party Innovation Deliverable" in that presentation ? If you agree, we may explain Arian that we were planning to address presentation of the results of this deliverable in that slot during the second day but we can elaborate more on it. * All: would you agree with explaining them what our live demo was about before hand ? I guess it doesn't harm. * Thierry: Is it feasible to prepare something about the Mobile CEP Engine with such a short notice ? * SAP: Does it make sense to prepare a demo regarding the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Engine ? I don't believe so but ... how would you justify it and explain that it would be better to use the Application Mashup GE ? I believe that they have just guided their decision based on input from UC projects regarding the planned usage of GEs (shared spreadsheet) but ... as far as I know, not only Finest have decided to go for using WireCloud but also Outsmart ... is this information correct ? I believe that if we explain that there are at least two UC projects who have already decided to use it in their design, we can justify to go for it instead of the ones they propose * IBM: would it be feasible that Guy makes a presentation on the Proton CEP, perhaps a webinar that matches some of the two days if attendance to the review is not feasible ? * All: wouldn't it make sense to invite Arian and the reviewers to attend the webinars regarding some of the GEs they refer to ... as alternative to cover them as part of the live demo ? * All: what is your feeling regarding the "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:39:12 +0000 From: To: , CC: , , , , , , Dear Juanjo, Thank you very much for the draft agenda. Some changes that we would like to see: 1) The live demos (day 1, 10.30 ? 12.15) need to go in detail with at least 3 GEs "in full", i.e. including the full set of documentation and other contents associated with that GE available at Month 18 plus relevant issues relating to implementation), in addition to the ?live demos? already scheduled. The three (or more) GEs should be drawn from the chapters 3, 5 & 6 and should be the ones which have generated the greatest interest so far. So, for chapter 3 it would be the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Editor, for ch 5 it would be the Things Mgt GE or the CEP Mobile Manager (as the Backend Device Mgt GE is not available), and for ch 6 it would be Proactive Technology Online, the Context Awareness Platform, the Samson broker, or the Query Broker. 2) Somewhere in the agenda the latest status of GE take-up by the Use Cases, the consortium members themselves, and potentially additional interests elsewhere needs to be presented. 3) Third Party Innovation Enablement is a key deliverable and needs to be presented. 4) Testbed and testing deliverables are also important and should be presented. It would be good to know how the Test bed actually supports some of the non-functional capabilities that are listed in the first release in the Technical Roadmap 5) A summary of the status of the validation of the GEs from the Use Cases and how this is checked back against the requirements needs to be presented. 6) The Closing Statements should include a presentation of Outlook for FI-WARE from the consortium?s viewpoint. 7) To accommodate the above items, Day 2 could end later and the 3 hours planned for Revision of checkpoints could be shorter. Best regards, Arian From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:21 AM To: VANHUMBEECK Vanessa (CNECT) Cc: jimenez at tid.es; CNECT-ICT-285248; ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; mcp at tid.es; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, Please find enclosed a draft agenda for the project review. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 07/11/12 10:43, Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; ? the management procedures and methods of the project; ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 ? Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Tue Nov 20 22:06:25 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:06:25 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] R: [Fiware-exploitation] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Dear Jose, I cannot make any modification to the slides at the link you have given. However I already made some change for TI description at the following link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Since the contents appear the same, I suggest to remove the duplication of shared slides, and keep only those which allow modifications by the partners (assuming this was the expected purpose). BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: marted? 20 novembre 2012 17:57 A: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC76B.486E03D0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Another understanding could also focus on the next steps of the project, at least last year as UC projects will stop and new ones will arrive: what have we planned to deliver? Which kind of support we expect to provide for new projects? Etc... And always a link with the 3rd parties: how Fi-Ware could be available for other companies or projects. As we have a formal request to use the 3rd Open Call for Communication and not to improve the functional scope of Fi-Ware the Commission changes a bit how we can understand FiWare delivery for the last year: more support and dissemination, less development. For the more specific point Mobile CEP engine, we had an internal demo 2 weeks ago so I'm checking tomorrow if it is feasible to use it for a short demo in Brussels. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : mardi 20 novembre 2012 21:45 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT: Comments/requests from Arian regarding the agenda of the review meeting Hi, Please find below the comments and requests that Arian has just sent to us regarding the agenda for the review (only 5 days before :-) I have to confess that I got crazy in a first approach when I read it ... but then I calmed down and I believe we can face it in a constructive way :-): * Points 2), 4) and even 5) may be taken as part of we had to prepare as presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ... I don't see a particular issue with that ... It's true that some questions may be tough to respond but better to know them in advance than having to respond to them by surprise at the review. Actually, they are providing here valuable information that should help us to prepare better the part of the presentations that was covering those checkpoints. * I have to confess that point 3) was totally unexpected ... However, I believe it should fit pretty well within the presentation on FI-WARE Value Proposition. Indeed, there was valuable content that we generated in that deliverable that should have taken into account for that presentation (and may have even taken into account already) * Regarding the live demo, I believe that we should respond giving them more details about the planned demo, explaining Arian and reviewers that what we are trying to achieve with the demo is much more ambitious than going through isolated demos of FI-WARE GEs standalone "in a row" ... Our planned live demo explains how different GEs can be used for the same application and also elaborates on how different phases in the lifecycle of an application are supported (note that Cloud or marketplace aspects are just ignored) ... Probably they were not expecting such a complete demo but a sequence of demos of some of the GEs ... therefore they were just asking to choose which ones ... I guess that we may convince them that what we propose is better. Alternatively, we may program a short webinar of some of the GEs not presented in the demo they are asking for. I would bet for the Proton CEP. I wonder whether one on the Mobile CEP Engine is also feasible (I have checked and the webinar on the IoT Gateway Data Handling GE is not planned until Dec 4th ...) Honestly speaking, I believe it doesn't make sense to plan one for the Ericsson Composition Engine or the Mashup Factory given the fact that sustainability of both is currently in question. * Point 6) is probably the more tricky point ... what would you interpret that they are expecting when they refer to "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? Aren't we addressing this to some extend in the presentation regarding Explotation or also the one on "Value Proposition" ? Your response to the following questions is needed so that we can elaborate a response to Arian: * Stefano: do you think we can address well points 2, 4 and 5 asked by Arian and the reviewers within the presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ? I believe so but wanted to check your opinion. Of course, you can count on me for helping to develop the slides. If you agree, we may respond Arian that those points are going to be address there. * SAP and the team working in the presentation regarding the FI-WARE Value Proposition: may you integrate presentation of the "Third Party Innovation Deliverable" in that presentation ? If you agree, we may explain Arian that we were planning to address presentation of the results of this deliverable in that slot during the second day but we can elaborate more on it. * All: would you agree with explaining them what our live demo was about before hand ? I guess it doesn't harm. * Thierry: Is it feasible to prepare something about the Mobile CEP Engine with such a short notice ? * SAP: Does it make sense to prepare a demo regarding the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Engine ? I don't believe so but ... how would you justify it and explain that it would be better to use the Application Mashup GE ? I believe that they have just guided their decision based on input from UC projects regarding the planned usage of GEs (shared spreadsheet) but ... as far as I know, not only Finest have decided to go for using WireCloud but also Outsmart ... is this information correct ? I believe that if we explain that there are at least two UC projects who have already decided to use it in their design, we can justify to go for it instead of the ones they propose * IBM: would it be feasible that Guy makes a presentation on the Proton CEP, perhaps a webinar that matches some of the two days if attendance to the review is not feasible ? * All: wouldn't it make sense to invite Arian and the reviewers to attend the webinars regarding some of the GEs they refer to ... as alternative to cover them as part of the live demo ? * All: what is your feeling regarding the "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:39:12 +0000 From: To: , CC: , , , , , , Dear Juanjo, Thank you very much for the draft agenda. Some changes that we would like to see: 1) The live demos (day 1, 10.30 - 12.15) need to go in detail with at least 3 GEs "in full", i.e. including the full set of documentation and other contents associated with that GE available at Month 18 plus relevant issues relating to implementation), in addition to the "live demos" already scheduled. The three (or more) GEs should be drawn from the chapters 3, 5 & 6 and should be the ones which have generated the greatest interest so far. So, for chapter 3 it would be the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Editor, for ch 5 it would be the Things Mgt GE or the CEP Mobile Manager (as the Backend Device Mgt GE is not available), and for ch 6 it would be Proactive Technology Online, the Context Awareness Platform, the Samson broker, or the Query Broker. 2) Somewhere in the agenda the latest status of GE take-up by the Use Cases, the consortium members themselves, and potentially additional interests elsewhere needs to be presented. 3) Third Party Innovation Enablement is a key deliverable and needs to be presented. 4) Testbed and testing deliverables are also important and should be presented. It would be good to know how the Test bed actually supports some of the non-functional capabilities that are listed in the first release in the Technical Roadmap 5) A summary of the status of the validation of the GEs from the Use Cases and how this is checked back against the requirements needs to be presented. 6) The Closing Statements should include a presentation of Outlook for FI-WARE from the consortium's viewpoint. 7) To accommodate the above items, Day 2 could end later and the 3 hours planned for Revision of checkpoints could be shorter. Best regards, Arian From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:21 AM To: VANHUMBEECK Vanessa (CNECT) Cc: jimenez at tid.es; CNECT-ICT-285248; ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; mcp at tid.es; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, Please find enclosed a draft agenda for the project review. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 07/11/12 10:43, Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: * the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; * the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; * the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; * the management procedures and methods of the project; * the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; * the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Wed Nov 21 01:11:56 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:11:56 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT: Comments/requests from Arian regarding the agenda of the review meeting In-Reply-To: <50ABEBD4.9090106@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D06D4DB2C@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <50ABEBD4.9090106@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo, my answers in line ... Your response to the following questions is needed so that we can elaborate a response to Arian: > > - Stefano: do you think we can address well points 2, 4 and 5 asked by > Arian and the reviewers within the presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and > 5 ? I believe so but wanted to check your opinion. Of course, you can > count on me for helping to develop the slides. If you agree, we may > respond Arian that those points are going to be address there. > > agree, but i have to confess that the last aspect of point 4 we, testbed team, did not address it in a particular way. so i have to analyse and understand the implications of what expressed in the technical roadmap ... > > - > - SAP and the team working in the presentation regarding the FI-WARE > Value Proposition: may you integrate presentation of the "Third Party > Innovation Deliverable" in that presentation ? If you agree, we may > explain Arian that we were planning to address presentation of the results > of this deliverable in that slot during the second day but we can elaborate > more on it. > - All: would you agree with explaining them what our live demo was > about before hand ? I guess it doesn't harm. > > i think in our response, we must send our story-bord for the demo. perhaps this mgth convince them that it is much better and that it shows the consistency and the integration aspect thye asked, quite strongly i remember, during the last review. certainly we need also to "demo" the specifications and documentation associtaed to the ges. > > - > - Thierry: Is it feasible to prepare something about the Mobile CEP > Engine with such a short notice ? > - SAP: Does it make sense to prepare a demo regarding the Mashup > Factory or the Ericsson Composition Engine ? I don't believe so but ... > how would you justify it and explain that it would be better to use the > Application Mashup GE ? I believe that they have just guided their > decision based on input from UC projects regarding the planned usage of GEs > (shared spreadsheet) but ... as far as I know, not only Finest have decided > to go for using WireCloud but also Outsmart ... is this information correct > ? I believe that if we explain that there are at least two UC projects > who have already decided to use it in their design, we can justify to go > for it instead of the ones they propose > - IBM: would it be feasible that Guy makes a presentation on the > Proton CEP, perhaps a webinar that matches some of the two days if > attendance to the review is not feasible ? > - All: wouldn't it make sense to invite Arian and the reviewers to > attend the webinars regarding some of the GEs they refer to ... as > alternative to cover them as part of the live demo ? > > this makes very much sense, but i guess they will not delay their need to understand the ges till the webinars. this migth happen if and only if they agree to follow the demo through our storybord. > > - > - All: what is your feeling regarding the "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? > > this the value proposition of fi-ware!!!! ciao, stefano > > - > > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - > Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 > 17:39:12 +0000 From: To: > , CC: > , , > , > , > , , > > > Dear Juanjo, > > > > Thank you very much for the draft agenda. > > > > Some changes that we would like to see: > > 1) The live demos (day 1, 10.30 ? 12.15) need to go in detail with > at least 3 GEs "in full", i.e. including the full set of documentation > and other contents associated with that GE available at Month 18 plus > relevant issues relating to implementation), in addition to the ?live > demos? already scheduled. The three (or more) GEs should be drawn from the > chapters 3, 5 & 6 and should be the ones which have generated the greatest > interest so far. So, for chapter 3 it would be the Mashup Factory or the > Ericsson Composition Editor, for ch 5 it would be the Things Mgt GE or the > CEP Mobile Manager (as the Backend Device Mgt GE is not available), and for > ch 6 it would be Proactive Technology Online, the Context Awareness > Platform, the Samson broker, or the Query Broker. > > 2) Somewhere in the agenda the latest status of GE take-up by the > Use Cases, the consortium members themselves, and potentially additional > interests elsewhere needs to be presented. > > 3) Third Party Innovation Enablement is a key deliverable and needs > to be presented. > > 4) Testbed and testing deliverables are also important and should be > presented. It would be good to know how the Test bed actually supports some > of the non-functional capabilities that are listed in the first release in > the Technical Roadmap > > 5) A summary of the status of the validation of the GEs from the Use > Cases and how this is checked back against the requirements needs to be > presented. > > 6) The Closing Statements should include a presentation of Outlook > for FI-WARE from the consortium?s viewpoint. > > 7) To accommodate the above items, Day 2 could end later and the 3 > hours planned for Revision of checkpoints could be shorter. > > > > Best regards, > > Arian > > > > > > *From:* Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es ] > *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:21 AM > *To:* VANHUMBEECK Vanessa (CNECT) > *Cc:* jimenez at tid.es; CNECT-ICT-285248; ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); > msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; > rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; mcp at tid.es; jhierro >> "Juan > J. Hierro" > *Subject:* Re: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review > Meeting > > > > Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, > > Please find enclosed a draft agenda for the project review. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 07/11/12 10:43, Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu wrote: > > Dear Mr. Jimenez, > > In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you > recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a > review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium > on 28th and 29th November 2012. > > The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in > avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels > > > > Meeting rooms: > > 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 > > > > As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following > independent experts: > > > > - Dr Renaud Di Francesco > > - Dr. Dominic Greenwood > > - Ms Man-Sze Li > > - Ms Irena Pavlova > > > > The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: > > ? the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the > relevant period and of the related deliverables; > > ? the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough > potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; > > ? the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved > progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency > and effectiveness; > > ? the management procedures and methods of the project; > > ? the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the > project; > > ? the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, > economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for > the use and dissemination of results. > > > > If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to > 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and > put the experts (see cc) in copy. > > Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9thNovember 2012. > > Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday > 23rd November 2012. > > > > Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate > to contact me. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Vanessa Vanhumbeeck > > *European Commission* > > DG CONNECT > > Unit E3 ? 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URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 21 08:06:05 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:06:05 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-exploitation] Items concerning Seville meeting References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Dear all We have detected a small problem with the google presentation (it does not allow changes, due to an internal conversion). Please use the presentation attached to make changes Sorry for the troubles. Please send me the proposed modifications BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7BE.C1C77380] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: FI WARE WP11 Review- individual.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 108661 bytes Desc: FI WARE WP11 Review- individual.pptx URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 21 09:34:47 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:34:47 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-exploitation] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Thank you Pier It seems our mails have crossed. Your proposal is also very good. I have checked that SAP proposed changes are also incorporated there. So both possibilities are correct. So, for the rest, act as you prefer, you can use Pier's link or just send the changes in the pptx directly to me BR De: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 22:06 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Asunto: R: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, I cannot make any modification to the slides at the link you have given. However I already made some change for TI description at the following link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Since the contents appear the same, I suggest to remove the duplication of shared slides, and keep only those which allow modifications by the partners (assuming this was the expected purpose). BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: marted? 20 novembre 2012 17:57 A: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7CB.11763360] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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BR Pier Da: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: marted? 20 novembre 2012 21:45 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT: Comments/requests from Arian regarding the agenda of the review meeting Hi, Please find below the comments and requests that Arian has just sent to us regarding the agenda for the review (only 5 days before :-) I have to confess that I got crazy in a first approach when I read it ... but then I calmed down and I believe we can face it in a constructive way :-): * Points 2), 4) and even 5) may be taken as part of we had to prepare as presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ... I don't see a particular issue with that ... It's true that some questions may be tough to respond but better to know them in advance than having to respond to them by surprise at the review. Actually, they are providing here valuable information that should help us to prepare better the part of the presentations that was covering those checkpoints. * I have to confess that point 3) was totally unexpected ... However, I believe it should fit pretty well within the presentation on FI-WARE Value Proposition. Indeed, there was valuable content that we generated in that deliverable that should have taken into account for that presentation (and may have even taken into account already) * Regarding the live demo, I believe that we should respond giving them more details about the planned demo, explaining Arian and reviewers that what we are trying to achieve with the demo is much more ambitious than going through isolated demos of FI-WARE GEs standalone "in a row" ... Our planned live demo explains how different GEs can be used for the same application and also elaborates on how different phases in the lifecycle of an application are supported (note that Cloud or marketplace aspects are just ignored) ... Probably they were not expecting such a complete demo but a sequence of demos of some of the GEs ... therefore they were just asking to choose which ones ... I guess that we may convince them that what we propose is better. Alternatively, we may program a short webinar of some of the GEs not presented in the demo they are asking for. I would bet for the Proton CEP. I wonder whether one on the Mobile CEP Engine is also feasible (I have checked and the webinar on the IoT Gateway Data Handling GE is not planned until Dec 4th ...) Honestly speaking, I believe it doesn't make sense to plan one for the Ericsson Composition Engine or the Mashup Factory given the fact that sustainability of both is currently in question. * Point 6) is probably the more tricky point ... what would you interpret that they are expecting when they refer to "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? Aren't we addressing this to some extend in the presentation regarding Explotation or also the one on "Value Proposition" ? Your response to the following questions is needed so that we can elaborate a response to Arian: * Stefano: do you think we can address well points 2, 4 and 5 asked by Arian and the reviewers within the presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ? I believe so but wanted to check your opinion. Of course, you can count on me for helping to develop the slides. If you agree, we may respond Arian that those points are going to be address there. * SAP and the team working in the presentation regarding the FI-WARE Value Proposition: may you integrate presentation of the "Third Party Innovation Deliverable" in that presentation ? If you agree, we may explain Arian that we were planning to address presentation of the results of this deliverable in that slot during the second day but we can elaborate more on it. * All: would you agree with explaining them what our live demo was about before hand ? I guess it doesn't harm. [PG] Yes agreed. Concerning question 1 by Arian, I believe their expectation is to show that what we have produced in terms of deliverables accompanying a GE implementation can actually be used by a developer willing to use that GE. If this is one of the objectives during the live demo presentation then it should answer the question. Little more trickier would be if they want to deeply analyse the Open Specifications to capture how a third party developer could profitably use it to develop a compliant reference implementation. * Thierry: Is it feasible to prepare something about the Mobile CEP Engine with such a short notice ? * SAP: Does it make sense to prepare a demo regarding the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Engine ? I don't believe so but ... how would you justify it and explain that it would be better to use the Application Mashup GE ? I believe that they have just guided their decision based on input from UC projects regarding the planned usage of GEs (shared spreadsheet) but ... as far as I know, not only Finest have decided to go for using WireCloud but also Outsmart ... is this information correct ? I believe that if we explain that there are at least two UC projects who have already decided to use it in their design, we can justify to go for it instead of the ones they propose * IBM: would it be feasible that Guy makes a presentation on the Proton CEP, perhaps a webinar that matches some of the two days if attendance to the review is not feasible ? * All: wouldn't it make sense to invite Arian and the reviewers to attend the webinars regarding some of the GEs they refer to ... as alternative to cover them as part of the live demo ? [PG] agreed (maybe proposing this for the second round of webinars) * All: what is your feeling regarding the "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? [PG] It looks like asking us whether we believe in it or not ;-) Not sure the launching of a FI-WARE platform is what they really expect to hear from us, however the presentations on exploitation and value proposition should give some answer to this question. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:39:12 +0000 From: To: , CC: , , , , , , Dear Juanjo, Thank you very much for the draft agenda. Some changes that we would like to see: 1) The live demos (day 1, 10.30 - 12.15) need to go in detail with at least 3 GEs "in full", i.e. including the full set of documentation and other contents associated with that GE available at Month 18 plus relevant issues relating to implementation), in addition to the "live demos" already scheduled. The three (or more) GEs should be drawn from the chapters 3, 5 & 6 and should be the ones which have generated the greatest interest so far. So, for chapter 3 it would be the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Editor, for ch 5 it would be the Things Mgt GE or the CEP Mobile Manager (as the Backend Device Mgt GE is not available), and for ch 6 it would be Proactive Technology Online, the Context Awareness Platform, the Samson broker, or the Query Broker. 2) Somewhere in the agenda the latest status of GE take-up by the Use Cases, the consortium members themselves, and potentially additional interests elsewhere needs to be presented. 3) Third Party Innovation Enablement is a key deliverable and needs to be presented. 4) Testbed and testing deliverables are also important and should be presented. It would be good to know how the Test bed actually supports some of the non-functional capabilities that are listed in the first release in the Technical Roadmap 5) A summary of the status of the validation of the GEs from the Use Cases and how this is checked back against the requirements needs to be presented. 6) The Closing Statements should include a presentation of Outlook for FI-WARE from the consortium's viewpoint. 7) To accommodate the above items, Day 2 could end later and the 3 hours planned for Revision of checkpoints could be shorter. Best regards, Arian From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:21 AM To: VANHUMBEECK Vanessa (CNECT) Cc: jimenez at tid.es; CNECT-ICT-285248; ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); msli at icfocus.co.uk; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com; rdifrancesco at ymail.com; dgr at whitestein.com; mcp at tid.es; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, Please find enclosed a draft agenda for the project review. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 07/11/12 10:43, Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu wrote: Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: * the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; * the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; * the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; * the management procedures and methods of the project; * the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; * the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. If you have not sent the deliverables for this review period (months 13 to 18) to the European Commission yet, please do so as soon as possible and put the experts (see cc) in copy. Please send us the draft agenda of this meeting before Friday 9th November 2012. Please send me the names of the people attending the review before Friday 23rd November 2012. Should you have any questions before the meeting, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your co-operation. Best Regards, Vanessa Vanhumbeeck European Commission DG CONNECT Unit E3 - Net Innovation Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39 Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Submission of deliverable Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:22:50 +0100 From: Juanjo Hierro To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu, Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu, msli at icfocus.co.uk, irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com, rdifrancesco at ymail.com, dgr at whitestein.com CC: jimenez at tid.es, CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu, mcp at tid.es, "jhierro >> \"Juan J. Hierro\"" Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, This is the submission of deliverable D.1.2.3 "FI-WARE Periodic Report". You can download it from: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/25/1675/D.1.2.3+-+FI-WARE_Periodic_Peport+-+M13-M18+-+vfinal.pdf There are some figures that are still pending of final check, please consider this version not definitive but rather close to final. Please take into account that you have to first have logged in your account FussionForge before clicking and downloading the file. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 24/11/12 21:27, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, We are about to send you the complete Project Management Report but we are still integrated some final input. As an advance, I believe it will be useful to send you the attached document which will become part of the Management Report and provides a summary of the status regarding the several FI-WARE Project Review checkpoints. We hope it brings valuable information for you. 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URL: From jimenez at tid.es Fri Nov 30 13:50:18 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:50:18 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Conclssions review and porposals Message-ID: Dear Jesus We have just received a first feedback from Arian on the results of the FI-WARE review which, I think, show we have been more successful in explaining to the reviewers the work done in the project during the last months. FI-WARE is now in the right track and we hope to demonstrate we can deliver results in the coming months. As could be expected, one concern that keeps on appearing refers to the use of the FI-WARE generic enablers. We are, I think progressing in that direction but we fear that now, due to the design of the PPP programme we may enter a "Valley of Death", since many UA projects are going to be discontinued and the new UA will need a significant ramp up phase. It would be very good if a procedure can be implemented to encourage the use of PPP GE to those UA projects that are not going to continue in phase 2. This procedure could also be applicable to some of the proposals not accepted in call 2, but which are interesting enough. The objective is again to provide them some support for continuation Some suggestions that come to my mind now could be: 1.- Try to use some funding from phase 3, already, to encourage some UA projects to continue, even if not accepted, until they can become phase 3 2.- Try to encourage National authorities that those projects are continued perhaps as Eureka (Celtic) projects 3.- Suggest those projects to resubmit to other calls. To that purpose, it may be useful to suggest or propose to other units in charge of evaluating proposals that the use of PPP GE will be considered as a positive point related to IMPACT. This will be indeed true since they will become part of a larger community As indicated to Arian, we shall do our best to use our funds for FI-WARE call 3 to that purpose (and even other funding we could move to that purpose) but it will be not enough without the support of the rest of the community Thank you again for your support of FI-WARE and the PPP -- Jose Jimenez Director Collaborative Programmes Telefonica Digital Tf 914832660 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri Nov 30 13:51:47 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:51:47 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Feedback from the EC and reviewers regarding the FI-WARE Review Message-ID: <50B8ABE3.1010101@tid.es> Dear all, Please find below my very raw notes of the feedback provided by Arian. I couldn't take note of everything, but I believe is 90% complete. I take the advantage of this mail to thank you for your great effort since July and the support given to the project by you and teams of your chapters/WPs. We are now "on track" (reviewers have agreed that progress can be now considered acceptable) thanks to all this effort. Talk to you on Monday, during our regular joint WPLs/WPAs confcall at 11:00am (yes, works have to continue :-) Cheers, -- Juanjo Introduction: The review report to be submitted in draft format just before Christmas. This feedback is prior to that. Highs: Appreciated very much the efforts. It is clear that efforts have indeed been made. Dealing with submission/resubmission, they recognized the so large number of deliverables that were submitted. It clearly should be considered an achievement in itself. More coherence between the partners. Acting as a team more than in previous reviews. Dissemination in some areas (Smart Cities) ongoing. They appreciate this. Technical support documentation has improved. Users' guide and unit testing plan are in the right direction Tools WP in the right direction. Concern here about the adoption of the IDE inside FI-WARE (eat your own dog food) Security area progressing well. Welcome initiatives regarding involvement of other projects in other units. They liked the Architecture Weeks and how they continued with the webinars. They hope we will continue with them for the second phase and record webinars, making them available to the general public. Lows: Not enough eating our own dog food. Example: FI-CoDE development environment within FI-WARE. Service Composition Area: didn't see the real need for so many composition technologies. This has now been clarified. However, the withdrawal of Ericsson and DT leads to the need to seriously consider how to move forward. SMART Cities is a good area to look but not the only one. Please take a broader approach. Exploitation: Good analysis but didn't see how this translates into the plan. They have seen slides in Sevilla about the plans, but they are not so clearly documented in the deliverables. Technical documentations has improved but still needs to be improved. Big need to have the whitepaper. This because it is clear the need to explain how FI-WARE GE can be used and the whitepaper can be a good instrument. Catalogue as published very helpful, but we have to go a step further and try to create entries related to what may correspond to packages of several FI-WARE GEs that support concrete usage patterns. Catalogue should also answer what can be done with GEs more clearly. Shouldn't only be targeted to developers but other audience who take decisions on technology adoption. You shouldn't wait to have things (website, catalogue, etc) until they are perfect. More "Agile" approach requested. Still complaining about traceability of stakeholders behind features. More strategic thinking to standardization is needed. They will come with more concrete recommendations in the review report draft. Recommendations: Focus should be moved into adoption and use. "Successful program" vs "Successful project". Define process to incorporate results from third projects. Usability aspects: packaging of FI-WARE GEs and how such "packages" support certain usage patterns. Explained through the whitepaper but also in the FI-WARE Catalogue. Convincing Use Cases / Showcases not just relying on what UC projects may develop. Try to define/develop ones. Live demo in the right direction. Don't wait until perfection but good enough. Be more "Agile" (this is also related to "eat your own dog") Capacity Building project and UC trials may run some support issues. More attention is needed to define how this can be solved. You should come with an approach about how to deal with support issues. Creation of trackers per GE in the right direction. Recommendations about standardization efforts in the BigData and Cloud area will come. Very draft ideas regarding 3rd Open Call. FI-WARE should come soon with a draft text for the Call they wish to review. Not sure whether it is realistic to use all the budget for the 3rd Open Call. Amendment: a lot of changes. We have to be flexible in resource allocation. If you need to reallocate, reallocate. List of GEs: need to extend the existing list with the complete list involving the GEs planned in Releases 2, so that everybody gets a clear picture on what is going on. They understand that this information was available in the FI-WARE Architecture document and the Technical Roadmap but they like the idea of having a list like the one that currently exists for Release 1 covering also Release 2. 4 specifications regarding composition technologies. However, the implementation of two of them will not be available because partners have withdrawn. It makes sense to allocate the effort that was allocated there to the other GEs so that they become more generic. Take up of previous recommendations: Some were addressed, some of them not completely addressed. Some others obsolete. They will review them but will highlight some: Architecture encompassing: should be addressed through explanation of usage patterns. 1.3.5 about Open Innovation Lab: clarification about relationship with Capacity Building project. Among other aspects, support issues. 1.3.6 developers communities. Ok to rely in 3rd Open Call but should do more. Not constrained about project allocation. From the point of view of the EC, efforts allocation described in the DoW should be considered tentative. Website. Some improvements already, but need more work. Clarification of GE vs Complementary Enabler should be clarified. GE documentation has improved but traceability have to be introduced. whitepaper urgently needed. FI-WARE Software Releases done SAP GEs delivery done FI-WARE Testbed delivered webinars very much appreciated and have to be broaden to third parties through videos and public webinars. Developers community Live demo was done and they will encourage to bring them also in next reviews. Point 11.e which was availability of GEs beyond FI-WARE has to be extended not only regarding the current list of GEs available but for those that will come Overall: Project will be marked acceptable. Q&A: Jose Jimenez elaborated on the fact that it is now a pity that some UC projects in phase 1 get discontinued because that means that a lot of know-how and background that was acquired (and indeed meant a significant investment by all) may be lost. He wondered whether mechanisms could be put in place to allow them to continue and find proper funding for the efforts that would require, maybe if not in this program, in others. Arian responded that there was nothing than may prevent them to use the Open Innovation Lab. A different issue is the funding, but that may come from another programs and definitively the FI-PPP should welcome projects funded by other programs to be able to join the FI-PPP and carry out their activities taking advantage of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab, for instance. Jose Jimenez asked whether the EC could take a more proactive role here and either incorporate recommendations in the calls of those programs or at least certain value this aspect in evaluation of proposals. Regarding that, Arian suggested that a letter is written and sent to the Head of Unit (Jesus Villasante). Juanjo asked about acceptance/rejection of deliverables: Answer: they cannot provide information about acceptance/rejection of deliverables because they didn't have time to discuss this in detail but that information will come in the draft review report before Christmas. Nevertheless, they can anticipate that judgement will take into account the more strategic and forward-looking approach they believe should be taken now. Also, considering the fact that some of the deliverables will anyway need to be evolved and submitted again accompanying Release 2. Juanjo commented his personal concern about traceability of features. This might be a very nice academic exercise but requires time, may imply re-structuring things and distract focus. Juanjo asked the PO and reviewers to be careful here. Arian welcome the feedback. -- ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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And yes our efforts have paid and will continue to pay since we are all committed to FI-WARE success and now better in which directions to put our efforts (individually but most importantly collectively) Best Regards, Pascal De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : vendredi 30 novembre 2012 13:52 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] Feedback from the EC and reviewers regarding the FI-WARE Review Dear all, Please find below my very raw notes of the feedback provided by Arian. I couldn't take note of everything, but I believe is 90% complete. I take the advantage of this mail to thank you for your great effort since July and the support given to the project by you and teams of your chapters/WPs. We are now "on track" (reviewers have agreed that progress can be now considered acceptable) thanks to all this effort. Talk to you on Monday, during our regular joint WPLs/WPAs confcall at 11:00am (yes, works have to continue :-) Cheers, -- Juanjo Introduction: The review report to be submitted in draft format just before Christmas. This feedback is prior to that. Highs: Appreciated very much the efforts. It is clear that efforts have indeed been made. Dealing with submission/resubmission, they recognized the so large number of deliverables that were submitted. It clearly should be considered an achievement in itself. More coherence between the partners. Acting as a team more than in previous reviews. Dissemination in some areas (Smart Cities) ongoing. They appreciate this. Technical support documentation has improved. Users' guide and unit testing plan are in the right direction Tools WP in the right direction. Concern here about the adoption of the IDE inside FI-WARE (eat your own dog food) Security area progressing well. Welcome initiatives regarding involvement of other projects in other units. They liked the Architecture Weeks and how they continued with the webinars. They hope we will continue with them for the second phase and record webinars, making them available to the general public. Lows: Not enough eating our own dog food. Example: FI-CoDE development environment within FI-WARE. Service Composition Area: didn't see the real need for so many composition technologies. This has now been clarified. However, the withdrawal of Ericsson and DT leads to the need to seriously consider how to move forward. SMART Cities is a good area to look but not the only one. Please take a broader approach. Exploitation: Good analysis but didn't see how this translates into the plan. They have seen slides in Sevilla about the plans, but they are not so clearly documented in the deliverables. Technical documentations has improved but still needs to be improved. Big need to have the whitepaper. This because it is clear the need to explain how FI-WARE GE can be used and the whitepaper can be a good instrument. Catalogue as published very helpful, but we have to go a step further and try to create entries related to what may correspond to packages of several FI-WARE GEs that support concrete usage patterns. Catalogue should also answer what can be done with GEs more clearly. Shouldn't only be targeted to developers but other audience who take decisions on technology adoption. You shouldn't wait to have things (website, catalogue, etc) until they are perfect. More "Agile" approach requested. Still complaining about traceability of stakeholders behind features. More strategic thinking to standardization is needed. They will come with more concrete recommendations in the review report draft. Recommendations: Focus should be moved into adoption and use. "Successful program" vs "Successful project". Define process to incorporate results from third projects. Usability aspects: packaging of FI-WARE GEs and how such "packages" support certain usage patterns. Explained through the whitepaper but also in the FI-WARE Catalogue. Convincing Use Cases / Showcases not just relying on what UC projects may develop. Try to define/develop ones. Live demo in the right direction. Don't wait until perfection but good enough. Be more "Agile" (this is also related to "eat your own dog") Capacity Building project and UC trials may run some support issues. More attention is needed to define how this can be solved. You should come with an approach about how to deal with support issues. Creation of trackers per GE in the right direction. Recommendations about standardization efforts in the BigData and Cloud area will come. Very draft ideas regarding 3rd Open Call. FI-WARE should come soon with a draft text for the Call they wish to review. Not sure whether it is realistic to use all the budget for the 3rd Open Call. Amendment: a lot of changes. We have to be flexible in resource allocation. If you need to reallocate, reallocate. List of GEs: need to extend the existing list with the complete list involving the GEs planned in Releases 2, so that everybody gets a clear picture on what is going on. They understand that this information was available in the FI-WARE Architecture document and the Technical Roadmap but they like the idea of having a list like the one that currently exists for Release 1 covering also Release 2. 4 specifications regarding composition technologies. However, the implementation of two of them will not be available because partners have withdrawn. It makes sense to allocate the effort that was allocated there to the other GEs so that they become more generic. Take up of previous recommendations: Some were addressed, some of them not completely addressed. Some others obsolete. They will review them but will highlight some: Architecture encompassing: should be addressed through explanation of usage patterns. 1.3.5 about Open Innovation Lab: clarification about relationship with Capacity Building project. Among other aspects, support issues. 1.3.6 developers communities. Ok to rely in 3rd Open Call but should do more. Not constrained about project allocation. From the point of view of the EC, efforts allocation described in the DoW should be considered tentative. Website. Some improvements already, but need more work. Clarification of GE vs Complementary Enabler should be clarified. GE documentation has improved but traceability have to be introduced. whitepaper urgently needed. FI-WARE Software Releases done SAP GEs delivery done FI-WARE Testbed delivered webinars very much appreciated and have to be broaden to third parties through videos and public webinars. Developers community Live demo was done and they will encourage to bring them also in next reviews. Point 11.e which was availability of GEs beyond FI-WARE has to be extended not only regarding the current list of GEs available but for those that will come Overall: Project will be marked acceptable. Q&A: Jose Jimenez elaborated on the fact that it is now a pity that some UC projects in phase 1 get discontinued because that means that a lot of know-how and background that was acquired (and indeed meant a significant investment by all) may be lost. He wondered whether mechanisms could be put in place to allow them to continue and find proper funding for the efforts that would require, maybe if not in this program, in others. Arian responded that there was nothing than may prevent them to use the Open Innovation Lab. A different issue is the funding, but that may come from another programs and definitively the FI-PPP should welcome projects funded by other programs to be able to join the FI-PPP and carry out their activities taking advantage of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab, for instance. Jose Jimenez asked whether the EC could take a more proactive role here and either incorporate recommendations in the calls of those programs or at least certain value this aspect in evaluation of proposals. Regarding that, Arian suggested that a letter is written and sent to the Head of Unit (Jesus Villasante). Juanjo asked about acceptance/rejection of deliverables: Answer: they cannot provide information about acceptance/rejection of deliverables because they didn't have time to discuss this in detail but that information will come in the draft review report before Christmas. Nevertheless, they can anticipate that judgement will take into account the more strategic and forward-looking approach they believe should be taken now. Also, considering the fact that some of the deliverables will anyway need to be evolved and submitted again accompanying Release 2. Juanjo commented his personal concern about traceability of features. This might be a very nice academic exercise but requires time, may imply re-structuring things and distract focus. Juanjo asked the PO and reviewers to be careful here. Arian welcome the feedback. -- ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Fri Nov 30 16:02:01 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:02:01 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Feedback from the EC and reviewers regarding the FI-WARE Review In-Reply-To: <50B8ABE3.1010101@tid.es> References: <50B8ABE3.1010101@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo and all, first of all congratulations to you and all for the successful review!!! this review demontrates that working as team and working with open mind towards the fi-ppp programme pays, and i had to say, aftyer the clear success of yesterday in the stockholm tunnel, pays a lot!!! thank you also for these notes that gave me the chance to understand the results as i was not able to attend the last part of the review and the phc of this morning due to the stockholm exercise (did you noticed i twitted it???) ciao, stefano 2012/11/30 Juanjo Hierro : > Dear all, > > Please find below my very raw notes of the feedback provided by Arian. I > couldn't take note of everything, but I believe is 90% complete. > > I take the advantage of this mail to thank you for your great effort since > July and the support given to the project by you and teams of your > chapters/WPs. We are now "on track" (reviewers have agreed that progress > can be now considered acceptable) thanks to all this effort. > > Talk to you on Monday, during our regular joint WPLs/WPAs confcall at > 11:00am (yes, works have to continue :-) > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > > Introduction: > > The review report to be submitted in draft format just before Christmas. > This feedback is prior to that. > > > Highs: > > Appreciated very much the efforts. It is clear that efforts have indeed > been made. > > Dealing with submission/resubmission, they recognized the so large number of > deliverables that were submitted. It clearly should be considered an > achievement in itself. > > More coherence between the partners. Acting as a team more than in > previous reviews. > > Dissemination in some areas (Smart Cities) ongoing. They appreciate this. > > Technical support documentation has improved. > > Users' guide and unit testing plan are in the right direction > > Tools WP in the right direction. Concern here about the adoption of the > IDE inside FI-WARE (eat your own dog food) > > Security area progressing well. Welcome initiatives regarding involvement > of other projects in other units. > > They liked the Architecture Weeks and how they continued with the webinars. > They hope we will continue with them for the second phase and record > webinars, making them available to the general public. > > > Lows: > > Not enough eating our own dog food. Example: FI-CoDE development > environment within FI-WARE. > > Service Composition Area: didn't see the real need for so many composition > technologies. This has now been clarified. However, the withdrawal of > Ericsson and DT leads to the need to seriously consider how to move forward. > > SMART Cities is a good area to look but not the only one. Please take a > broader approach. > > Exploitation: Good analysis but didn't see how this translates into the > plan. They have seen slides in Sevilla about the plans, but they are not > so clearly documented in the deliverables. > > Technical documentations has improved but still needs to be improved. > > Big need to have the whitepaper. This because it is clear the need to > explain how FI-WARE GE can be used and the whitepaper can be a good > instrument. > > Catalogue as published very helpful, but we have to go a step further and > try to create entries related to what may correspond to packages of several > FI-WARE GEs that support concrete usage patterns. Catalogue should also > answer what can be done with GEs more clearly. Shouldn't only be targeted > to developers but other audience who take decisions on technology adoption. > > You shouldn't wait to have things (website, catalogue, etc) until they are > perfect. More "Agile" approach requested. > > Still complaining about traceability of stakeholders behind features. > > More strategic thinking to standardization is needed. They will come with > more concrete recommendations in the review report draft. > > > Recommendations: > > Focus should be moved into adoption and use. "Successful program" vs > "Successful project". Define process to incorporate results from third > projects. > > Usability aspects: packaging of FI-WARE GEs and how such "packages" support > certain usage patterns. Explained through the whitepaper but also in the > FI-WARE Catalogue. > > Convincing Use Cases / Showcases not just relying on what UC projects may > develop. Try to define/develop ones. Live demo in the right direction. > > Don't wait until perfection but good enough. Be more "Agile" (this is also > related to "eat your own dog") > > Capacity Building project and UC trials may run some support issues. More > attention is needed to define how this can be solved. You should come with > an approach about how to deal with support issues. Creation of trackers > per GE in the right direction. > > Recommendations about standardization efforts in the BigData and Cloud area > will come. > > Very draft ideas regarding 3rd Open Call. FI-WARE should come soon with a > draft text for the Call they wish to review. > > Not sure whether it is realistic to use all the budget for the 3rd Open > Call. > > Amendment: a lot of changes. We have to be flexible in resource > allocation. If you need to reallocate, reallocate. > > List of GEs: need to extend the existing list with the complete list > involving the GEs planned in Releases 2, so that everybody gets a clear > picture on what is going on. They understand that this information was > available in the FI-WARE Architecture document and the Technical Roadmap but > they like the idea of having a list like the one that currently exists for > Release 1 covering also Release 2. > > 4 specifications regarding composition technologies. However, the > implementation of two of them will not be available because partners have > withdrawn. It makes sense to allocate the effort that was allocated there > to the other GEs so that they become more generic. > > > Take up of previous recommendations: > > Some were addressed, some of them not completely addressed. Some others > obsolete. They will review them but will highlight some: > > Architecture encompassing: should be addressed through explanation of usage > patterns. > > > 1.3.5 about Open Innovation Lab: clarification about relationship with > Capacity Building project. Among other aspects, support issues. > > 1.3.6 developers communities. Ok to rely in 3rd Open Call but should do > more. > > Not constrained about project allocation. From the point of view of the > EC, efforts allocation described in the DoW should be considered tentative. > > Website. Some improvements already, but need more work. > > Clarification of GE vs Complementary Enabler should be clarified. > > GE documentation has improved but traceability have to be introduced. > > whitepaper urgently needed. > > FI-WARE Software Releases done > > SAP GEs delivery done > > FI-WARE Testbed delivered > > webinars very much appreciated and have to be broaden to third parties > through videos and public webinars. > > Developers community > > Live demo was done and they will encourage to bring them also in next > reviews. > > Point 11.e which was availability of GEs beyond FI-WARE has to be extended > not only regarding the current list of GEs available but for those that will > come > > > Overall: > > Project will be marked acceptable. > > > Q&A: > > Jose Jimenez elaborated on the fact that it is now a pity that some UC > projects in phase 1 get discontinued because that means that a lot of > know-how and background that was acquired (and indeed meant a significant > investment by all) may be lost. He wondered whether mechanisms could be > put in place to allow them to continue and find proper funding for the > efforts that would require, maybe if not in this program, in others. > Arian responded that there was nothing than may prevent them to use the Open > Innovation Lab. A different issue is the funding, but that may come from > another programs and definitively the FI-PPP should welcome projects funded > by other programs to be able to join the FI-PPP and carry out their > activities taking advantage of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab, for > instance. Jose Jimenez asked whether the EC could take a more proactive > role here and either incorporate recommendations in the calls of those > programs or at least certain value this aspect in evaluation of proposals. > Regarding that, Arian suggested that a letter is written and sent to the > Head of Unit (Jesus Villasante). > > Juanjo asked about acceptance/rejection of deliverables: Answer: they > cannot provide information about acceptance/rejection of deliverables > because they didn't have time to discuss this in detail but that information > will come in the draft review report before Christmas. Nevertheless, they > can anticipate that judgement will take into account the more strategic and > forward-looking approach they believe should be taken now. Also, > considering the fact that some of the deliverables will anyway need to be > evolved and submitted again accompanying Release 2. > > Juanjo commented his personal concern about traceability of features. > This might be a very nice academic exercise but requires time, may imply > re-structuring things and distract focus. Juanjo asked the PO and > reviewers to be careful here. Arian welcome the feedback. > > > -- > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace > situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpl mailing list > Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl > -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Fri Nov 30 18:07:02 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:07:02 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-pcc] R: Feedback from the EC and reviewers regarding the FI-WARE Review In-Reply-To: <50B8ABE3.1010101@tid.es> References: <50B8ABE3.1010101@tid.es> Message-ID: Dear Juanjo, Dear All, thanks a lot for the exhaustive report about the early feedback, and congratulations for the success of the review! I'm happy to hear we're now appearing more a team than in the past, I really feel *we are* a team now; I believe this comes as a result of the hard work done, in the past months, to make sure FI-WARE would not die under the 'pressure' of the previous review outcomes. Of course, we cannot relax (well, at least the week-end is allowed ;-) as there are lot of things to be completed and improved, although some of the remarks of the early feedback are to me little unfair and/or unjustified, but we can talk about them in the call on Monday. Have a nice week-end! Pier Da: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: venerd? 30 novembre 2012 13:52 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-pcc] Feedback from the EC and reviewers regarding the FI-WARE Review Dear all, Please find below my very raw notes of the feedback provided by Arian. I couldn't take note of everything, but I believe is 90% complete. I take the advantage of this mail to thank you for your great effort since July and the support given to the project by you and teams of your chapters/WPs. We are now "on track" (reviewers have agreed that progress can be now considered acceptable) thanks to all this effort. Talk to you on Monday, during our regular joint WPLs/WPAs confcall at 11:00am (yes, works have to continue :-) Cheers, -- Juanjo Introduction: The review report to be submitted in draft format just before Christmas. This feedback is prior to that. Highs: Appreciated very much the efforts. It is clear that efforts have indeed been made. Dealing with submission/resubmission, they recognized the so large number of deliverables that were submitted. It clearly should be considered an achievement in itself. More coherence between the partners. Acting as a team more than in previous reviews. Dissemination in some areas (Smart Cities) ongoing. They appreciate this. Technical support documentation has improved. Users' guide and unit testing plan are in the right direction Tools WP in the right direction. Concern here about the adoption of the IDE inside FI-WARE (eat your own dog food) Security area progressing well. Welcome initiatives regarding involvement of other projects in other units. They liked the Architecture Weeks and how they continued with the webinars. They hope we will continue with them for the second phase and record webinars, making them available to the general public. Lows: Not enough eating our own dog food. Example: FI-CoDE development environment within FI-WARE. Service Composition Area: didn't see the real need for so many composition technologies. This has now been clarified. However, the withdrawal of Ericsson and DT leads to the need to seriously consider how to move forward. SMART Cities is a good area to look but not the only one. Please take a broader approach. Exploitation: Good analysis but didn't see how this translates into the plan. They have seen slides in Sevilla about the plans, but they are not so clearly documented in the deliverables. Technical documentations has improved but still needs to be improved. Big need to have the whitepaper. This because it is clear the need to explain how FI-WARE GE can be used and the whitepaper can be a good instrument. Catalogue as published very helpful, but we have to go a step further and try to create entries related to what may correspond to packages of several FI-WARE GEs that support concrete usage patterns. Catalogue should also answer what can be done with GEs more clearly. Shouldn't only be targeted to developers but other audience who take decisions on technology adoption. You shouldn't wait to have things (website, catalogue, etc) until they are perfect. More "Agile" approach requested. Still complaining about traceability of stakeholders behind features. More strategic thinking to standardization is needed. They will come with more concrete recommendations in the review report draft. Recommendations: Focus should be moved into adoption and use. "Successful program" vs "Successful project". Define process to incorporate results from third projects. Usability aspects: packaging of FI-WARE GEs and how such "packages" support certain usage patterns. Explained through the whitepaper but also in the FI-WARE Catalogue. Convincing Use Cases / Showcases not just relying on what UC projects may develop. Try to define/develop ones. Live demo in the right direction. Don't wait until perfection but good enough. Be more "Agile" (this is also related to "eat your own dog") Capacity Building project and UC trials may run some support issues. More attention is needed to define how this can be solved. You should come with an approach about how to deal with support issues. Creation of trackers per GE in the right direction. Recommendations about standardization efforts in the BigData and Cloud area will come. Very draft ideas regarding 3rd Open Call. FI-WARE should come soon with a draft text for the Call they wish to review. Not sure whether it is realistic to use all the budget for the 3rd Open Call. Amendment: a lot of changes. We have to be flexible in resource allocation. If you need to reallocate, reallocate. List of GEs: need to extend the existing list with the complete list involving the GEs planned in Releases 2, so that everybody gets a clear picture on what is going on. They understand that this information was available in the FI-WARE Architecture document and the Technical Roadmap but they like the idea of having a list like the one that currently exists for Release 1 covering also Release 2. 4 specifications regarding composition technologies. However, the implementation of two of them will not be available because partners have withdrawn. It makes sense to allocate the effort that was allocated there to the other GEs so that they become more generic. Take up of previous recommendations: Some were addressed, some of them not completely addressed. Some others obsolete. They will review them but will highlight some: Architecture encompassing: should be addressed through explanation of usage patterns. 1.3.5 about Open Innovation Lab: clarification about relationship with Capacity Building project. Among other aspects, support issues. 1.3.6 developers communities. Ok to rely in 3rd Open Call but should do more. Not constrained about project allocation. From the point of view of the EC, efforts allocation described in the DoW should be considered tentative. Website. Some improvements already, but need more work. Clarification of GE vs Complementary Enabler should be clarified. GE documentation has improved but traceability have to be introduced. whitepaper urgently needed. FI-WARE Software Releases done SAP GEs delivery done FI-WARE Testbed delivered webinars very much appreciated and have to be broaden to third parties through videos and public webinars. Developers community Live demo was done and they will encourage to bring them also in next reviews. Point 11.e which was availability of GEs beyond FI-WARE has to be extended not only regarding the current list of GEs available but for those that will come Overall: Project will be marked acceptable. Q&A: Jose Jimenez elaborated on the fact that it is now a pity that some UC projects in phase 1 get discontinued because that means that a lot of know-how and background that was acquired (and indeed meant a significant investment by all) may be lost. He wondered whether mechanisms could be put in place to allow them to continue and find proper funding for the efforts that would require, maybe if not in this program, in others. Arian responded that there was nothing than may prevent them to use the Open Innovation Lab. A different issue is the funding, but that may come from another programs and definitively the FI-PPP should welcome projects funded by other programs to be able to join the FI-PPP and carry out their activities taking advantage of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab, for instance. Jose Jimenez asked whether the EC could take a more proactive role here and either incorporate recommendations in the calls of those programs or at least certain value this aspect in evaluation of proposals. Regarding that, Arian suggested that a letter is written and sent to the Head of Unit (Jesus Villasante). Juanjo asked about acceptance/rejection of deliverables: Answer: they cannot provide information about acceptance/rejection of deliverables because they didn't have time to discuss this in detail but that information will come in the draft review report before Christmas. Nevertheless, they can anticipate that judgement will take into account the more strategic and forward-looking approach they believe should be taken now. Also, considering the fact that some of the deliverables will anyway need to be evolved and submitted again accompanying Release 2. Juanjo commented his personal concern about traceability of features. This might be a very nice academic exercise but requires time, may imply re-structuring things and distract focus. Juanjo asked the PO and reviewers to be careful here. 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