Dear Juanjo, I fundamentally agree with your comments, and with the feedback sent by other WPL/PCC member. Few more comments from my side to your questions are inlined below. BR Pier Da: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: martedì 20 novembre 2012 21:45 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-pcc] VERY IMPORTANT: Comments/requests from Arian regarding the agenda of the review meeting Hi, Please find below the comments and requests that Arian has just sent to us regarding the agenda for the review (only 5 days before :-) I have to confess that I got crazy in a first approach when I read it ... but then I calmed down and I believe we can face it in a constructive way :-): * Points 2), 4) and even 5) may be taken as part of we had to prepare as presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ... I don't see a particular issue with that ... It's true that some questions may be tough to respond but better to know them in advance than having to respond to them by surprise at the review. Actually, they are providing here valuable information that should help us to prepare better the part of the presentations that was covering those checkpoints. * I have to confess that point 3) was totally unexpected ... However, I believe it should fit pretty well within the presentation on FI-WARE Value Proposition. Indeed, there was valuable content that we generated in that deliverable that should have taken into account for that presentation (and may have even taken into account already) * Regarding the live demo, I believe that we should respond giving them more details about the planned demo, explaining Arian and reviewers that what we are trying to achieve with the demo is much more ambitious than going through isolated demos of FI-WARE GEs standalone "in a row" ... Our planned live demo explains how different GEs can be used for the same application and also elaborates on how different phases in the lifecycle of an application are supported (note that Cloud or marketplace aspects are just ignored) ... Probably they were not expecting such a complete demo but a sequence of demos of some of the GEs ... therefore they were just asking to choose which ones ... I guess that we may convince them that what we propose is better. Alternatively, we may program a short webinar of some of the GEs not presented in the demo they are asking for. I would bet for the Proton CEP. I wonder whether one on the Mobile CEP Engine is also feasible (I have checked and the webinar on the IoT Gateway Data Handling GE is not planned until Dec 4th ...) Honestly speaking, I believe it doesn't make sense to plan one for the Ericsson Composition Engine or the Mashup Factory given the fact that sustainability of both is currently in question. * Point 6) is probably the more tricky point ... what would you interpret that they are expecting when they refer to "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? Aren't we addressing this to some extend in the presentation regarding Explotation or also the one on "Value Proposition" ? Your response to the following questions is needed so that we can elaborate a response to Arian: * Stefano: do you think we can address well points 2, 4 and 5 asked by Arian and the reviewers within the presentation regarding checkpoints 2 and 5 ? I believe so but wanted to check your opinion. Of course, you can count on me for helping to develop the slides. If you agree, we may respond Arian that those points are going to be address there. * SAP and the team working in the presentation regarding the FI-WARE Value Proposition: may you integrate presentation of the "Third Party Innovation Deliverable" in that presentation ? If you agree, we may explain Arian that we were planning to address presentation of the results of this deliverable in that slot during the second day but we can elaborate more on it. * All: would you agree with explaining them what our live demo was about before hand ? I guess it doesn't harm. [PG] Yes agreed. Concerning question 1 by Arian, I believe their expectation is to show that what we have produced in terms of deliverables accompanying a GE implementation can actually be used by a developer willing to use that GE. If this is one of the objectives during the live demo presentation then it should answer the question. Little more trickier would be if they want to deeply analyse the Open Specifications to capture how a third party developer could profitably use it to develop a compliant reference implementation. * Thierry: Is it feasible to prepare something about the Mobile CEP Engine with such a short notice ? * SAP: Does it make sense to prepare a demo regarding the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Engine ? I don't believe so but ... how would you justify it and explain that it would be better to use the Application Mashup GE ? I believe that they have just guided their decision based on input from UC projects regarding the planned usage of GEs (shared spreadsheet) but ... as far as I know, not only Finest have decided to go for using WireCloud but also Outsmart ... is this information correct ? I believe that if we explain that there are at least two UC projects who have already decided to use it in their design, we can justify to go for it instead of the ones they propose * IBM: would it be feasible that Guy makes a presentation on the Proton CEP, perhaps a webinar that matches some of the two days if attendance to the review is not feasible ? * All: wouldn't it make sense to invite Arian and the reviewers to attend the webinars regarding some of the GEs they refer to ... as alternative to cover them as part of the live demo ? [PG] agreed (maybe proposing this for the second round of webinars) * All: what is your feeling regarding the "Outlook for FI-WARE" ? [PG] It looks like asking us whether we believe in it or not ;-) Not sure the launching of a FI-WARE platform is what they really expect to hear from us, however the presentations on exploitation and value proposition should give some answer to this question. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:39:12 +0000 From: <Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu> To: <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es>, <Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu> CC: <jimenez at tid.es><mailto:jimenez at tid.es>, <CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu><mailto:CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu>, <msli at icfocus.co.uk><mailto:msli at icfocus.co.uk>, <irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com><mailto:irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com>, <rdifrancesco at ymail.com><mailto:rdifrancesco at ymail.com>, <dgr at whitestein.com><mailto:dgr at whitestein.com>, <mcp at tid.es><mailto:mcp at tid.es> Dear Juanjo, Thank you very much for the draft agenda. Some changes that we would like to see: 1) The live demos (day 1, 10.30 - 12.15) need to go in detail with at least 3 GEs "in full", i.e. including the full set of documentation and other contents associated with that GE available at Month 18 plus relevant issues relating to implementation), in addition to the "live demos" already scheduled. The three (or more) GEs should be drawn from the chapters 3, 5 & 6 and should be the ones which have generated the greatest interest so far. So, for chapter 3 it would be the Mashup Factory or the Ericsson Composition Editor, for ch 5 it would be the Things Mgt GE or the CEP Mobile Manager (as the Backend Device Mgt GE is not available), and for ch 6 it would be Proactive Technology Online, the Context Awareness Platform, the Samson broker, or the Query Broker. 2) Somewhere in the agenda the latest status of GE take-up by the Use Cases, the consortium members themselves, and potentially additional interests elsewhere needs to be presented. 3) Third Party Innovation Enablement is a key deliverable and needs to be presented. 4) Testbed and testing deliverables are also important and should be presented. It would be good to know how the Test bed actually supports some of the non-functional capabilities that are listed in the first release in the Technical Roadmap 5) A summary of the status of the validation of the GEs from the Use Cases and how this is checked back against the requirements needs to be presented. 6) The Closing Statements should include a presentation of Outlook for FI-WARE from the consortium's viewpoint. 7) To accommodate the above items, Day 2 could end later and the 3 hours planned for Revision of checkpoints could be shorter. Best regards, Arian From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:21 AM To: VANHUMBEECK Vanessa (CNECT) Cc: jimenez at tid.es<mailto:jimenez at tid.es>; CNECT-ICT-285248; ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT); msli at icfocus.co.uk<mailto:msli at icfocus.co.uk>; irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com<mailto:irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com>; rdifrancesco at ymail.com<mailto:rdifrancesco at ymail.com>; dgr at whitestein.com<mailto:dgr at whitestein.com>; mcp at tid.es<mailto:mcp at tid.es>; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE - Official Invitation to M18 Review Meeting Dear Arian and Vanessa, dear reviewers, Please find enclosed a draft agenda for the project review. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 07/11/12 10:43, Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu> wrote: Dear Mr. Jimenez, In accordance with Article II.23 of the contract, and as agreed with you recently, I hereby inform you of the Commission's intention to hold a review meeting of the project FP7-ICT-285248 FI-WARE in Brussels, Belgium on 28th and 29th November 2012. The meeting will take place in the premises of the European Commission in avenue de Beaulieu, 1160 Brussels Meeting rooms: 28th and 29th November avenue de Beaulieu BU25 0/S10 As agreed with you, the Commission will be assisted by the following independent experts: - Dr Renaud Di Francesco - Dr. Dominic Greenwood - Ms Man-Sze Li - Ms Irena Pavlova The objectives of the review are, in particular, to establish: * the degree of fulfillment of the project work plan for the relevant period and of the related deliverables; * the continued relevance of the objectives and breakthrough potential with respect to the scientific and industrial state of the art; * the resources planned and utilized in relation to the achieved progress, in a manner consistent with the principles of economy, efficiency and effectiveness; * the management procedures and methods of the project; * the beneficiaries' contributions and integration within the project; * the expected potential impact in scientific, technologic, economic, competitive and social terms (where relevant), and the plans for the use and dissemination of results. 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