dear jose, thank you for this report which opens many issues to addres. i said "opens" as they are so obvious that we should have been prepared for them even before they have been put on our table. my comments in line. > > Commitment > > The EC had a meeting with the Commissioner N. Kroes 10 days ago. Three > concerns were raised by the Commissioner at that meeting: > > • industry commitment. What is going to be the results of that > investment? FI-WARE needs to show results i think this is the most important issue. still we, but also the other projects, behave as "usual business" certainly most of the partners in the project(s) do. we have not to forget that the fi-ppp was launched under the rescue program, i.e. with the main goal of creating new business and new jobs. what are our actions in this direction? certainly none at the moment, of course i consider the whole set of projects. it has to be recognbised that we are still at the beginning and that the real fi-applications that will pave the way to wider adoption will come in the next 12 months, but they are politicians they need results even more than they are feasible ...!!! in addition we have not to forget that the battle with the eu parliament for the funding of horizon 2020 is NOW and either we are able to show results NOW or the budget for innovation in ict will be drammativally cutted in favour of agriculture and energy .... so i fully share and understand the worries of the ec. what more puzzle me is the debate which is going on at the moment at g13/g16 that is still in the line with extremely "old" lobbying practices and forgetting completely that a ppp is already in action!!! > > • openness. Even if it is not necessary that the results are > Open Software, this is the preferred outcome. If this is not the case, we > should explain the commercial reasons for that. They want to understand the > business model behind and to explain how it will be open enough, i.e., will > foster development of an open business ecosystem not only profitable by the > FI-WARE partners. Why are there GEs that are not Open Source ? How are > business models sufficiently open going to be enabled by that?. A clear > sign is that many third parties currently considering the usage of GEs > beyond the FI-PPP are wondering whether this may imply restrictions to use > and vendor lock-in. engineering postion is for open source solutions, this is very well know. on the other hand i fully support also those partners who will make their ge implementations closed. that's fine this shows that there is a interest to have strog business behind that: well those companies must show those plans, which is the revenue policy, how they will support future usage of their solutions, and so forth. i believe those are the companies who have to show their plans first .... if any .... of course, what is more crucial is that the ge are really open specifications and being able to be used by developers outside fi-ware. i think we are definitively progressing in this respect. > > • innovation. How is FI-WARE going to pave the way for > innovation? How we can accelerate fast-track adoption of FI-WARE among > developers? How is it going to attract and help developers? How new > business are going to be better incubated thanks to FI-WARE. here i think our main route outside the ppp is eit ict labs. as i anticipated, but now i can confirm engineering, with sap, thales, forange, and create-net (a key player in infinity) will have a project (called fi-ppp liaison) starting on next 1st january 2013 to implement a very first environment where smes can play with fi-ware technologies. this is a very small project, but it could be the starting point for a better integrated action as soon as the fi-ppp programme will move into phase 2. just in case, only those companies participate in the project as they are the only ones who are both in fi-ware and eit ict labs. of course other routs must be identified and put in place, but at least the one mentioned above is an exteremely concrete step. > > Meeting with commissioner > > The EC suggested the project and, more particularly, G13/G16 companies, > should prepare a meeting with N. Kroes in Jannuary explaining in some detail > the position in relation to those issues > > The team that meets in Seville should try to establish the plan and APs to > prepare the meeting in January. as i said before is us, core team fo the fi-ppp in the g13/g16, that should drive what is going on there and not this empty and nonsense discussions at the moment driven by the merging of the current existing etps. as it is now is a clear waste of time and above all credibility! > > Open Call > > Regarding Innovation, the EC believes that part of the budget linked to the > Open Call should be spent in activities promoting innovation, particularly > regarding participation of SMEs and enterpreneurs well, this is a big change with respect to our dow and must be, of course, somehow first formalised. my suggestion, this case is to do something we will do next year in the context of ict labs. next meetings i can show you the details of the project if you wish. > > Best regards ciao, stefano > > > > --- > > > > Jose Jimenez > > Telefonica I+D > > (34) 91 482 2660 > > > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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