dear juanjo, ok for us. ciao, stefano 2013/4/22 Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> > Dear colleagues, > > For your info, please find enclosed our response to the mail sent by > Herink Abramowicz from Ericsson regarding their request to report PMs > beyond the limits that we had decided to accept (very generously in my > opinon, I have to say, as explained to Henrik in the attached mail). > > If you believe there was something wrong or not accurate in our message, > I happy to hear your opinion. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of > Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & URGENT ***) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 > 00:46:46 +0200 From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> <jhierro at tid.es> To: > Henrik Abramowicz <henrik.abramowicz at ericsson.com><henrik.abramowicz at ericsson.com> CC: > JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ <jdps at tid.es> <jdps at tid.es>, LUIS GARCIA GARCIA > <lgg at tid.es> <lgg at tid.es>, "subsidies at tid.es" <subsidies at tid.es> > <subsidies at tid.es> <subsidies at tid.es>, Anders Caspár > <anders.caspar at ericsson.com> <anders.caspar at ericsson.com>, "jhierro >> > \"Juan J. Hierro\"" <jhierro at tid.es> <jhierro at tid.es> > > Dear Henrik, > > It was Ericsson's unilateral decision to withdraw the project. You were > not asked for any reason to do so nor the project changed its position or > way of working thus making you impossible to stay in. > > On the contrary, Ericsson's decision put the project into real trouble. > > After double-checking with all the WP leaders where Ericsson was > involved, our position doesn't change: the 2,6 PMs we had planned to assign > to Ericsson in addition to the PMs declared by Ericsson at month 18 are > considered fair to cover your involvement until your withdrawal was > officially communicated. > > Of course, you may report more PMs for that period but, following our > obligation as coordinators, we will report to the EC whether we agree with > the declared figures or not and certainly we won't agree with any declared > costs beyond those we have already tell you. It will then be up to the EC > to accept or reject your declared costs and we will adjust the planning of > costs accordingly. > > Indeed, I remind you that some of the deliverables rejected in the 1st > reporting period (which justified the rejection of costs reported for that > period) were also rejected in the month 18 review. These included the > Open Specifications of the IoT chapter (where Ericsson played a major role) > and the FI-WARE Technical Roadmap which was made up from the contributions > by all the partners (including Ericsson). Acceptance of PMs declared not > only during the 2nd reporting period (months 13-24) but also the 1st > reporting period (month 1-12) depends now on the extra efforts for > recovering that are currently being made by rest of the partners regarding > rejected deliverables. Reported costs linked to development of > deliverables rejected in month 18 will be finally accepted only if those > deliverables get accepted in the 2nd year review and this will be because > of the merits of rest of the partners who had recovered without the help of > Ericsson. Acceptance of costs declared by Ericsson until month 18 plus > the additional 2,6 PMs would therefore be rather generous indeed. > > Regarding your comment on consent of any amendment, note that you are > not considered a member of the consortium since you notified Ericsson's > withdrawal, therefore we don't need to get Ericsson's consent for any > amendment we are implementing after Ericsson has withdrawn from the > project. It's up to us to decide how planning of PMs can be realistically > declared based on input from the WP leaders and taking into account the > status of the project after the month 12 and month 18 project reviews. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo Hierro > > > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 15/04/13 19:51, Henrik Abramowicz wrote: > > Dear Javier et al, > > > > We have been checking the time reporting and you were right that it did > not reflect the actual work done in that month due to that our time > reporting system certain months can come up with higher pms than planned. > This is because it covers the last Quarter and there is lagging in time > reporting which sometime means that the previous time reporting shows up > later and adds up to the current month . This is actually true for most of > our activities that the time reporting is lagging. I don´t think this is > unusual. > > We announced the withdrawal in January > > For WP 5 Thierry should I have been told by our people that we have not > really reported so much time as we could have in general. I believe Thierry > is aware of it. End of last year there quite a lot of support of Telecom > Italia for a demo and integration on the cloud infrastructure. > > For WP 9 we had further development and bug-fixing of the catalogue but > also a lot of support to users, preparations of webinars and actual > execution of them Documentation and competence transfer to UPM . > > For WP 10 we contributed on some of the deployment. > > I don’t believe we are blocking anything but you need to have explicit > consent by us for any amendment. > > I hope this answers the questions > > BR > Henrik > > *From:* JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ [mailto:jdps at tid.es <jdps at tid.es>] > *Sent:* den 15 april 2013 11:36 > *To:* Henrik Abramowicz > *Cc:* JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; LUIS GARCIA GARCIA; subsidies at tid.es > *Subject:* FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & URGENT > ***) > *Importance:* High > > > > Dear Henrik, as Coordinator we cannot accept your proposal, and for last > time, I would ask you again to reconsider your situation to avoid sending > this information to Commission in order to solve the blocking of the > amendment 4. > > > > 1.- Coordinator and Chief Architect, and WPLs knows that Ericsson withdraws the project after review M18. > > 2.- It is no legal to declare 1,7 PM of Jakob Saros on Dec 12. If he has > worked full time, it should be 1 PM. Please check your recording systems > because this is a fatal error in an audit. > > 3.- It is no legal to declare 1,5 PM of Vlasios Tsiatsis on Dec 12. If he > has worked full time, it should be 1 PM. Again, please check your recording > systems because this is a fatal error in an audit. > > 4.- We have checked WPL and they don’t agree with the Ericsson’s > contribution from November 12 you said. > > · FT says as coordinator of WP5 that “They cannot validate around > 3 months without any contribution to a deliverable and no new software > release.” > > · E-IIS says as coordinator of WP9 that “I do confirm that since > Nov 12 the only work done was related to the take over of the catalogue by > UPM”. > > · E-IIs says as coordinator of WP10 that “No effort provided in > the concerned period”. > > 5.- You have been receiving all the e-mail about the complex amendments > where is implicit the withdrawal of Ericsson an you have no said nothing > against. > > 6.- Regarding your current declared effort: > > > > > > That means that there could be up to 2,6 PM to compensate/minimize the > impact of your unilateral withdrawal from the project and could be > explained because Ericsson has been involved in some minor tasks too, so if > this is true, you could claim these costs. > > Although I and WPL have asked you, you have no provided any information > about the carried out work since November 2012 to December 2012, so, I > think these costs will be rejected by Commission. > > > > 7.- Last by not least, as you know (it is stated in the documentation > provided in the amendment), there are other partners who are going to > receive the remaining budget in order to carry out the work. The project > will have a big problem if the new committed budget has to be negotiated > again. > > > > Please, let me know if you agree. Please, I would like you to answer us > today. > > > > Note: If you agree, I kindly ask you again to provide the requested > withdrawal letter by tomorrow. > > > > BR > > Javier. > > > > *De:* Henrik Abramowicz [mailto:henrik.abramowicz at ericsson.com<henrik.abramowicz at ericsson.com>] > > *Enviado el:* viernes, 12 de abril de 2013 16:53 > > *Para:* JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ > *CC:* subsidies at tid.es; Alen Jusufbasic; Magnus Karlsson E; Anders > Caspár; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Andrea > Manieri (manieri at eng.it); 'stefano.depanfilis at eng.it' ( > stefano.depanfilis at eng.it) > *Asunto:* RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & > URGENT ***) > > > > Dear all, > > Please also find the breakdown of Person Months per month as requested > which means that no work was performed in 2013 > > BR > > Henrik > > > > > PM/WP > > > > > WP 5 > > WP 9 > > WP 10 > > > > TOTAL > > *Henrik Abramowicz Total* > > *0,0* > > *0,0* > > *0,0* > > *0,0* > > Nov 12 > > > > > > > Dec 12 > > > > > > > Jan 13 > > > > > > > *Jakob Saros Total* > > *2,7* > > > > *2,7* > > Nov 12 > > 0,9 > > > > > Dec 12 > > 1,7 > > > > > *Jan Höller Total* > > *0,1* > > > > *0,1* > > Dec 12 > > 0,1 > > > > > *John Sandberg Total* > > > *1,2* > > > *1,2* > > Nov 12 > > > 0,9 > > > > Dec 12 > > > 0,3 > > > > *Marika Stålnacke Total* > > > *0,2* > > *0,4* > > *0,5* > > Nov 12 > > > 0,2 > > 0,3 > > > Dec 12 > > > > 0,1 > > > *Torgny Johansson Total* > > > *0,5* > > > *0,5* > > Nov 12 > > > 0,3 > > > > Dec 12 > > > 0,2 > > > > *Vlasios Tsiatsis Total* > > *1,5* > > > > *1,5* > > Dec 12 > > 1,5 > > > > > *Total* > > *4,2* > > *1,8* > > *0,4* > > *6,4* > > > > > > *From:* JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ [mailto:jdps at tid.es <jdps at tid.es>] > *Sent:* den 12 april 2013 15:50 > > *To:* Henrik Abramowicz > *Cc:* subsidies at tid.es; Alen Jusufbasic; Magnus Karlsson E; Anders > Caspár; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Andrea > Manieri (manieri at eng.it); 'stefano.depanfilis at eng.it' ( > stefano.depanfilis at eng.it) > *Subject:* RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & > URGENT ***) > > > > Henrik, I understand that you are talking about November 2012, and that > means that you didn’t work later in FI-WARE project. > > If not, please let me know. > > > > Please provide justifications of this effort. > > > > BR > > Javier. > > > > > > *De:* Henrik Abramowicz [mailto:henrik.abramowicz at ericsson.com<henrik.abramowicz at ericsson.com>] > > *Enviado el:* viernes, 12 de abril de 2013 15:38 > *Para:* JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ > *CC:* subsidies at tid.es; Alen Jusufbasic; Magnus Karlsson E; Anders > Caspár; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Andrea > Manieri (manieri at eng.it); 'stefano.depanfilis at eng.it' ( > stefano.depanfilis at eng.it) > *Asunto:* RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & > URGENT ***) > > > > Dear Javier et al > > I got these figures from our controller below > > Hope this helps > > BR > > Henrik > > > > > WP 5 > > WP 9 > > WP 10 > > > > TOTAL > > *Henrik Abramowicz Total* > > 0 > > 0 > > 0 > > 0,0 > > *Jakob Saros Total* > > 2,7 > > 0 > > > 2,7 > > *Jan Höller Total* > > 0,1 > > 0 > > > 0,1 > > *John Sandberg Total* > > 0 > > 1,2 > > > 1,2 > > *Marika Stålnacke Total* > > 0 > > 0,2 > > 0,4 > > 0,5 > > *Torgny Johansson Total* > > 0 > > 0,5 > > > 0,5 > > *Vlasios Tsiatsis Total* > > 1,5 > > 0 > > > 1,5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Total* > > 4,2 > > 1,8 > > 0,4 > > 6,4 > > > > > > *From:* JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ [mailto:jdps at tid.es <jdps at tid.es>] > *Sent:* den 12 april 2013 15:36 > *To:* Henrik Abramowicz > *Cc:* subsidies at tid.es; Alen Jusufbasic; Magnus Karlsson E; Anders > Caspár; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Andrea > Manieri (manieri at eng.it); 'stefano.depanfilis at eng.it' ( > stefano.depanfilis at eng.it) > *Subject:* RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & > URGENT ***) > *Importance:* High > > > > *Dear Henrik*, we need to close this by Monday because it is blocking the > amendment 4. > > > > Please, before sending your data to Coordinator, I kindly ask you to get a > consensus with each WPL, in CC. > > > > WP5 (FT) -> Thierry Nagallen > > WP9, WP10 (E-IIS) -> Andrea Manieri & Stefano de Panfilis. > > > > As I told you, the current information is that Ericsson finished its > contribution to FI-WARE project on M18, October 2012. > > > > *Dear WPL*, Ericsson says that they have been contributing to FI-WARE > project since November 2012 as follows: > > WP 5 440 hours > > Wp 9 131,75 hours > > Wp 10 97 hours > > > > I kindly ask you to let us know if you agree, after Ericsson has been > provided the requested information in attached e-mail. > > > > BR > > Javier. > > > > > > *De:* JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ > *Enviado el:* viernes, 12 de abril de 2013 12:33 > *Para:* 'Henrik Abramowicz' > *CC:* subsidies at tid.es; Alen Jusufbasic; Magnus Karlsson E; Anders > Caspár; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA > *Asunto:* RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT ***) > *Importancia:* Alta > > > > Henrik, please send your contribution in PM by month and by WP since > November 1st, 2012, providing the justification of the work carried out. > > It will be sent to WPL and Juanjo to be reviewed. > > This is very urgent. > > BR > > Javier. > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace > situado más abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace > situado más abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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