Dear Juanjo, After some internal discussion I had here at Thales level here are additional comments/remarks we have and that I wanted to share with you and colleagues about this new governance structure: - The order of precedence between the collaboration agreement and the text about the new governance structure to be inserted in the grant agreement should be specified in order to avoid any future discussion in case of conflict between the two documents. - The creation of the so-called new body “Executive Industry Board-EIB” is not contemplated under the collaboration agreement. As the attached text is not an amendment to the collaboration agreement, the validity of the EIB is questionable. - The EIB composed “of senior executives representing the strategy and business impact or strategic marketing of the 10-15 largest leading European industry players” should according to the attached text “advise on strategic choices and give suggestions on industrial commercialization /business strategies”. Please tell us if these composition and role are required by the commission. If it is the case, it should be clearly stated. Otherwise, the compatibility of the EIB with anti-trust laws should be addressed. - The possibility of the coordinators of the FI-PPP projects to represent the FI-PPP Project Participants is depending on the powers granted to them by such participants. If such empowerment is denied by the participants, the coordinators will not be able to play the role given to them under the attached text. Regarding comments you Telefonica made you will see in the text of your email below my position. Hope it helps. Best Regards, Pascal De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoyé : jeudi 21 février 2013 14:12 À : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] Fwd: Re: FI-PPP Phase 2 Status of governance work - Revision 3 of the governance model Hi all, Regarding the third revision of the governance model I would like to transparently share with you the comments submitted by Telefonica. Of course, we have make it clear they were just comments from our side because we are still analyzing it at project level. In this respect, we have made it clear that FI-WARE hasn't approved the proposed governance model yet. I would kindly ask you to share your position regarding the current version of the document asap. In addition, we would rather appreciate if you can tell us whether you agree or not with the comments made by Telefónica, which I would summarize as follows: * We propose that the SB do not need to follow the defined procedure (2-weeks notice in advance previous to each SB) for making decisions in all cases. Certainly it is fine to request following such procedure in delicate matters, but not for any decision. Otherwise, we are bringing too much burocracy in the governance. On my side I’m in favor of the defined procedure (2-weeks notice in advance previous to each SB) for making decisions in all cases. From my side I see it as something which can help. * We propose that the AB also "Monitors how recommendations on usage of FI-WARE Generic Enablers are implemented by UC projects". This was something that was already happening in phase 1, but you never know what may come with new projects so we believe it is important that the AB takes the role of actually monitoring that recommendations on usage of FI-WARE GEs (to be provided by FI-WARE) are actually implemented That one I can only support and do hope we will gain the support of the EC to get it accepted by UC Projects Phase II. · We believe that we have to be careful when we use terms such as "overall FI-PPP business plan". We propose to talk about an "overall FI-PPP sustainability plan which enables the development of the individual business plans of the different stakeholders". There will be many companies and many different business plans, most probably implemented at different speeds ... what is important is that we define a model of sustainability of the FI-PPP results that enables companies to implement their business plans, without the need to get them all synchronized. This allows that some actor can move faster without waiting for the rest, everyone will be able to make progress at its own pace. This is realistic, any other thing sounds like "wishful thinking". I indeed believe that what you propose here is more realistic. In the meantime this should also be addressed/tackled at the FI-PPP WG devoted to this that way and be properly described (so far I see it as somehow missing so would be nice to call to get it added). * We believe that our contribution to overall promotion through the third FI-WARE Open Call should be recognized and given the right value. We are bringing a lot through it that will go for the sake of the whole program (in some cases, bordering activities that we may have argued that should have been carried out by others) so therefore we cannot be asked for another 5-10% of budget for program-level activities. We can understand this is asked to new projects, and certainly the EC should secure their contribution, but that is not our case. I can only agree here since fully justified through changes that happened at the level of the Third Open Call of FI-WARE (since no more technical but exactly addressing what is requested here aka Overall promotion & program level activities). I propose to arrange a short confcall right after Part II of the joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall next Monday for closing a position. Meanwhile, it would be nice that everyone circulates their comments and also provides feeback about Telefonica's comments. Unfortunately and due to other commitments I have I would not be able to join the audio conf after the WPL/WPAs joint audio. Apologize. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: FI-PPP Phase 2 Status of governance work - Revision 3 of the governance model Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:16:29 +0100 From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es> To: David Kennedy <kennedy at eurescom.eu><mailto:kennedy at eurescom.eu>, Lakaniemi Ilkka <ilkka.lakaniemi at aalto.fi><mailto:ilkka.lakaniemi at aalto.fi> CC: Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu> <Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu>, Ragnar.Bergstrom at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Ragnar.Bergstrom at ec.europa.eu> <Ragnar.Bergstrom at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Ragnar.Bergstrom at ec.europa.eu>, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu> <Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu>, jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es> Dear David and Ilkka, Please find enclosed Telefonica's comments on revision 3 of the governance model. Sorry for the delay sending them. Since you have shared revision 3 of the governance model with the EC already, I put them on copy. The amendments we propose regarding the AB is the most critical one. Also the comment on procedures for decisions at the SB. Both go for adopting effective and efficient improvements to the FI-PPP management structure. There are comments that have to do with suggestion for rewording of sentences that refer to "program-level business plans". I believe it is more accurate to talk about ”overall FI-PPP sustainability model/plan” because sustainability of the ecosystem we aim to build is something we pursue. Such overall FI-PPP sustainability model/plan should be formulated in a way that it enables major stakeholders to develop their own individual business plans coexisting with others’. Saying that we are going to define an overall business plan is too much but, I would say more, there may be partners who may wish to accelerate their business plan and not get delayed by others. An overall FI-PPP sustainability model/plan is what should enable these players to actually accelerate their business plans and show the path to others. Rest of comments inserted in the document are less critical. A very important comment, despite not inserted in the text, is that Telefonica believes that the budget that FI-WARE is already putting on the table, through the 3rd Open Call, namely 4,2 M€ for activities dealing with promotion of FI-WARE and creation of an innovation ecosystem bringing SMEs and entrepreneurs should be already considered a relevant contribution to the overall success of the program. This besides our contribution with resources participating in the existing WGs and governance bodies, the offering of the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab to third parties, etc. Therefore, asking for additional 5-10% of the budget for additional program-level activities would be totally unfair and may impact our efforts trying to deliver a FI-WARE platform that technically brings what developers need. I'm pretty sure that if all the rest of projects, altogether, bring on the table another 4.2 M€ of funding for program-level promotional activities besides resources similar to those FI-WARE is already contributing on other WGs, we can achieve a lot. Telefonica needs to understand how our contribution to the overall program success, through the launch of the 3rd Open Call, is going to be measured in terms of contribution to program-level activities before approving a text that mentions contribution of 5-10% budget to such program-level activities. This is, of course, just Telefonica's comments. We haven't yet finalized our internal discussions as to present a position of the FI-WARE project. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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