Dear Thierry, Thanks for your comments. Response between lines: On 26/02/13 10:27, thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com> wrote: Dear all, Some comments to prepare the PCC meeting : · Skip the 2 weeks notice…: we are demonstrating that we can organize quickly a meeting to discuss a programme issue. The idea of the 2 weeks notice is the same but for a General Assembly for each project to collect comments from all partners in a dedicated project so the next SB will be able to discuss all proposals and come with a new one which should be the consensus, but this new proposal has to be submitted also to the GA… So we need this 2 weeks notice to be able to validate some decisions maybe in 2 or 3 months… I believe that we all agree that this 2 weeks notice is needed for critical points. The issue here is being able to address non-critical questions on the SB "on the fly" without delaying decisions one month just because nobody had identified them prior to the SB meeting. · Dissemination resources: I’m not sure that all partners consume regularly Dissemination resources so we could say also that Fi-Ware dissemination resources should be also used for these common dissemination activities. So ... are you saying that we should take the funding from to those FI-WARE partners in the Collaboration, Communication and Dissemination WP who are not currently active in Dissemination activities and tell them that the funding will be translated to a pool of funding we will devote to global FI-PPP Dissemination activities ? My comments: * I guess it won't be too easy * I'm afraid that this is far from the funding that the EC is now asking for ... · One question regarding your status Juanjo to anticipate some additional question: if you become the new Fi-Ware Project Coordinator, you are also the AB Chairman and you will have “2 votes” at the SB for a single seat. We could have some comments from the other projects. Of course this question will happen only after the end of the negotiations but this is just to clarify the point. As far as I know, decisions in the SB have to be taken unanimously. The Collaboration Agreement actually states the following: Unless otherwise provided for in this Collaboration Agreement, recommendations or decisions of the Steering Board shall require the support of all member Parties present or represented by proxy at a quorate meeting (as set forth below) of the Steering Board So that means there are no votes as such. What you have are "voices" in the SB of people representing a project. Now, it is being proposed that projects have two seats in the SB, meaning "2 voices". In our case, I would presume that I would be in the SB (together with someone else we have to decide) and sometimes I will talk as "coordinator" of FI-WARE and sometimes as "AB chairman". Honestly, don't see this is a major issue. If there were voting, then we should clarify how I would vote ... but since there is no voting ... Cheers, -- Juanjo BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoyé : mardi 26 février 2013 07:53 À : fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu> Objet : [Fiware-pcc] URGENT for FI-WARE PCC: Fwd: Future Internet PPP - Negotiation of Phase 2 Projects Dear all, We received this letter from the EC on Friday. Apologizes for not forwarding it to you earlier. I believe that we should try to come up with a position on behalf of FI-WARE. It shouldn't be so difficult. For this reason, I will call for a confcall tomorrow. Please make sure you attend with a representative. I have setup the following doodle for closing the best timeslot but please be aware that I will close the doodle poll at 13:00 CET today and then I will announce the final timeslot after that. So far, I have only seen the comments by SAP as well as those from Telefonica. At least, we should be able to forward to the EC: * a list of comments in which we can reach consensus * a list of points where different partners have different views My interpretation is that we may reach consensus regarding the following points: * Include the list of tasks that were already there in the Collaboration Agreement in the list of task assigned to the SB, AB and PMO (Secretariat) of the governance document, because all of the tasks in the Collaboration Agreement are still valid. New tasks may be added based on lessons learned from phase 1 * Replace any reference to mediation roles because, at the end of the day, they are not so relevant. Emphasis the fact that decisions should be made by consensus. * Skip the “2 weeks” notice regarding points in the agenda of the SB if there is an automatic veto right for decisions that are introduced “by ambush” (the effect of the veto by any partner disagreeing would be to automatically put it back onto the next SB meeting with proper advance notice). That way unanimous stuff could pass without fuss and the rest could be resolved by the numbers. -- question aside ... * Propose that the AB also "Monitors how recommendations on usage of FI-WARE Generic Enablers are implemented by UC projects". * Revise the parts where there are reference to "overall FI-PPP business plan". There will be many companies and many different business plans, most probably implemented at different speeds ... We propose to talk about an "overall FI-PPP sustainability plan which enables the development of the individual business plans of the different stakeholders" ... such a model would allow each company to implement its own business plans, without the need to get synchronized with the rest. This allows that some actor can move faster without waiting for the rest, everyone will be able to make progress at its own pace. Also regarding adjustments in the budget to support global-level activities, particularly dissemination activities, I believe we may agree that FI-WARE is already contributing a significant part of our budget/funding through the FI-WARE 3rd Open Call (4,2 M€) so therefore no further contributions besides participating in Dissemination Working Group meetings should be necessary. My interpretation regarding different views on some specific points is that we only differ in which document should prevail, the DoW or the Collaboration Agreement. Some parties (e.g., Telefonica) believe we can use modifications of the DoW to fast-track changes which may later be incorporated in the Collaboration Agreement, while other parties (I understand SAP) believe that no changes should be introduced anywhere other than in the Collaboration Agreement which should be referred as the main source and prevail over contents of the DoW. I would like to discuss, during our PCC meeting tomorrow, what we can forward to the EC as a summary of the position of FI-WARE, hopefully a summary like the above. I will also send an email to the rest of partners in FI-WARE so that they can send us their input prior to our PCC call. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Future Internet PPP - Negotiation of Phase 2 Projects Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:05:27 +0000 From: <Maria.MOTA-VIEGAS at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Maria.MOTA-VIEGAS at ec.europa.eu> To: <gavras at eurescom.eu><mailto:gavras at eurescom.eu>, <fiona.williams at ericsson.com><mailto:fiona.williams at ericsson.com>, <maurizio.cecchi at telecomitalia.it><mailto:maurizio.cecchi at telecomitalia.it>, <pieter.vanderlinden at technicolor.com><mailto:pieter.vanderlinden at technicolor.com>, <sergio.gusmeroli at txtgroup.com><mailto:sergio.gusmeroli at txtgroup.com>, <sjaak.wolfert at wur.nl><mailto:sjaak.wolfert at wur.nl> CC: <dario.avallone at eng.it><mailto:dario.avallone at eng.it>, <stephan.guido at siemens.com><mailto:stephan.guido at siemens.com>, <christophe.diot at technicolor.com><mailto:christophe.diot at technicolor.com>, <petra.turkama at aalto.fi><mailto:petra.turkama at aalto.fi>, <ilkka.lakaniemi at aalto.fi><mailto:ilkka.lakaniemi at aalto.fi>, <federico.alvarez at upm.es><mailto:federico.alvarez at upm.es>, <Jesus.Villasante at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Jesus.Villasante at ec.europa.eu>, <Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Peter.Fatelnig at ec.europa.eu>, <Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu>, <Maria-Concepcion.ANTON-GARCIA at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Maria-Concepcion.ANTON-GARCIA at ec.europa.eu>, <Ragnar.Bergstrom at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Ragnar.Bergstrom at ec.europa.eu>, <andreas.tegge at sap.com><mailto:andreas.tegge at sap.com>, <brigitte.cardinael at orange.com><mailto:brigitte.cardinael at orange.com>, <Carlos.rcocina at telefonica.com><mailto:Carlos.rcocina at telefonica.com>, <didier_arnaud.bourse at alcatel-lucent.com><mailto:didier_arnaud.bourse at alcatel-lucent.com>, <Jean-Dominique.Meunier at technicolor.com><mailto:Jean-Dominique.Meunier at technicolor.com>, <frederick.jeske-schoenhoven at siemens.com><mailto:frederick.jeske-schoenhoven at siemens.com>, <Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de><mailto:Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de>, <Joachim.Hoenig at telekom.de><mailto:Joachim.Hoenig at telekom.de>, <johannes.riedl at siemens.com><mailto:johannes.riedl at siemens.com>, <jose-maria.cavanillas at atosresearch.eu><mailto:jose-maria.cavanillas at atosresearch.eu>, <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es>, <julie.marguerite at thalesgroup.com><mailto:julie.marguerite at thalesgroup.com>, <scoca at telecomitalia.be><mailto:scoca at telecomitalia.be>, <luigi.gambardella at telecomitalia.it><mailto:luigi.gambardella at telecomitalia.it>, <livdo at tid.es><mailto:livdo at tid.es>, <magnus.madfors at ericsson.com><mailto:magnus.madfors at ericsson.com>, <marc.vancoppenolle at alcatel-lucent.com><mailto:marc.vancoppenolle at alcatel-lucent.com>, <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it><mailto:stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>, <s.fischer at sap.com><mailto:s.fischer at sap.com>, <thierry.nagellen at orange.com><mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com>, <vincent.marcatte at orange.com><mailto:vincent.marcatte at orange.com>, <walter.van.der.weiden at ericsson.com><mailto:walter.van.der.weiden at ericsson.com>, <werner.mohr at nsn.com><mailto:werner.mohr at nsn.com> Our ref.: Ares(2013)232706 Dear Colleague, Please find attached our views how best to proceed in order to bring the discussion on the FI-PPP Governance to a fruitful and productive conclusion. 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