[Fiware-pcc] R: Minutes and very final URGENT checks prior sending email to the EC (specially for SAP, THALES and IBM)

[Garino Pierangelo]

Dear All,

I have inserted a short comment below (check for [PG]).

BR
Pier



Da: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro
Inviato: mercoledì 27 febbraio 2013 15:16
A: Neidecker-Lutz, Burkhard
Cc: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu
Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-pcc] Minutes and very final URGENT checks prior sending email to the EC (specially for SAP, THALES and IBM)

On 27/02/13 13:42, Neidecker-Lutz, Burkhard wrote:
Hello everybody, here is the proposed text from SAP legal regarding the steering board mandates:

"Project Coordinators should discuss the proposals for the SB decisions in their project according to the processes laid down in the Collaboration Agreement and the individual projects Consortium Agreement with all project partners and get the necessary mandate together with the second representative of the sending FII project consortium to discuss, negotiate and decide about the content of the respective recommendation of the SB."

  This is fine to me.   Unless I hear about any objection before 16:30, I will include this text as proposed text in the email to be sent to the EC.

[PG]  didn't we define in the call this morning, that the reference to the Consortium Agreement could be substituted by a wording like e.g. 'and the individual projects internal procedures' ?



As to the EIB:
  SAP also needs to double-check whether we can live with that part. Concerns largely are around the process for selecting members (both inclusion and exclusion criteria in the current text) and how to balance what the EIB is supposed to do between irrelevancy on one side and anti-trust regulations at the other end of the spectrum.

  I'll explain in the email that SAP needs to double-check whether it can live with inclusion of the EIB and what are your major concerns in that respect.

  Cheers,

-- Juanjo



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From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 12:38
To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu>
Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Minutes and very final URGENT checks prior sending email to the EC (specially for SAP, THALES and IBM)

Hi all,

  Please take a look at the minutes which I have finalized in the shared Google doc.

  Telefonica will prepare an email to be sent to the EC where we will explain that there is general consensus among the partners about the incorporation of comments 1-6 discussed in the call (as per agreement captured in these minutes) but there is still disagreement on the following points:

 *   Mandate of Project Coordinators at the SB: we will explain which was the paragraph where the conflict is located and we will explain we are working in alternative text
 *   Prevalence of the DoW over the Collaboration Agreement and Consortium Agreement:   Here, SAP and IBM object using the DoW as mechanism for fast-tracking changes in the governance model.  We will ask the EC about clarification on their position about prevalence of the DoW, Consortium Agreement and Collaboration Agreement.
 *   Inclusion of the EIB.   Here, Thales and SAP seem to disagree with their inclusion.   IBM will double-check whether they can live with that part.

  I would kindly ask Thales, SAP and IBM to explicitly confirm, in response to this mail whether it is right that they object to the inclusion of the EIB and/or the wording associated to that inclusion.   This part was discussed while SAP was not at the meeting so I want to make a final double-check.   IBM took the AP to come to us with a response.

  Cheers,

-- Juanjo



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