From fherranz at ikergune.com Thu Oct 2 17:45:09 2014 From: fherranz at ikergune.com (Fernando Herranz) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 17:45:09 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D915140@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D91A31B@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local>, Message-ID: Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Thu Oct 2 18:03:57 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 18:03:57 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D915140@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D91A31B@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local>, Message-ID: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics From ahernandez at ikergune.com Thu Oct 2 20:23:15 2014 From: ahernandez at ikergune.com (Angel Hernandez) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 20:23:15 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Message-ID: <8d8h5iol5l9yok3paw5eikit.1412274157581@email.android.com> Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Thu Oct 2 20:49:00 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 20:49:00 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Message-ID: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it Thu Oct 2 21:09:34 2014 From: roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it (Antonini Roberto) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:09:34 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1pvi1v4ejd2rn1t3y0is7sip.1412277096529@email.android.com> Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo A:Angel Hernandez ,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Fri Oct 3 15:52:49 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:52:49 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Message-ID: Dear All, Let?s have the Robotics call on Tue 7 @15:00 CEST. We?ll use powwownow with PIN 075102. BR Pier _____________________________________________ Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 20:49 A: Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez > Data: A: Garino Pierangelo >,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo A:Angel Hernandez ,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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Name: Robotics Generic Enabler2.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 576374 bytes Desc: Robotics Generic Enabler2.pptx URL: From roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it Tue Oct 7 12:53:18 2014 From: roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it (Antonini Roberto) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:53:18 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: , <1pvi1v4ejd2rn1t3y0is7sip.1412277096529@email.android.com> Message-ID: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D92D3CF@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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It's rather schematic, please add anything you could consider worth to include to make it clearer. As said, next time we'll use a shared document so that everybody can add own contributions whenever necessary. Pier' intro/agenda: * First item to address is defining the approach for robotics * Afterwards we'll have to: * Agree on the architecture * Submit to Thomas a proposal for his vision on the point * Define who does what * Define the roadmap of GE developments Robotics calls: * 1 weekly call o Agreement on date/time: o Better beginning or at the end of day for Exte-tar o Better beginning of the day for Roberto o 10am of Thursday is fine for everybody * AP: Pier to organise the shared doc for minutes and send periodic calendar reminder * Note: Every 2 weeks there is an I2ND chapter PhC (Thu @ 11am) Angel: are we going to use JIRA or not? * There will be JIRA tracker for Robotics Discussion on Scenarios Pier concerning first item of agenda: the overall robotics approach in FIWARE should consider the following: o Our proposition must be targeting users like i.e. SMEs, start ups, etc in the full spirit of the FIWARE and FI-PPP initiative o We want to provide functionalities to ease robot management in FIWARE o We want to support a wide range of possible implementations * From sophisticated to dumb robots * From single to many robots * ET proposal: Worries about latency when outside a local network * TI: different tasks should be considered * Reactive tasks: can be placed on the RCM * (simplified) sequence diagram sent by Roberto o Some task can be moved to the robot side, in case of more performant device o Others can be moved to the platform side * ET: Agreement on the basics of the architecture, but: * No raw data from robot to platform. However, this is not raw data to high level application What would be the KIARA role in Robotics GE? Two main components: * Robot clone (RCM) * FI-ROS (translator to NGSI) o ET: translating into different protocols; it does also additional functionality, like Making robots talk to each other o Roberto: there is not a single ROS core, but several, one for each container Need to identify the behaviour of each component in the Robotics GE Roberto: Decentralise to share functionality in a platform Question by Angel: what are the ways for a web developer to write a robotics application? According to Roberto: * access to APIs of the platform, * plus maybe some IoT interaction, * the like done when developing an app for a smartphone (don't like to manage data of a single sensor, but rather some higher level functionality) Angel: we should have one way to talk to the robot * This is within FIWARE in the case of the ET example * Roberto: agree on this approach What would be the communication with FIWARE? * Communication should go through KIARA (always?) * Single northbound interface, and one only way to interact with robots * What about NGSI?? * We need to understand better KIARA beforehand * FI-ROS should be the communication channel towards FIWARE * Also top to bottom it is the way to communicate to robots or through the RCM o If RCM is used, then it is in the cloud o If using directly FI-ROS, then it can be on the robot Roberto: In the case of RCM communicating with robot, KIARA is most likely not used ET: We'll do the exercise to put the functions in the boxes, and compare them Roberto: Some issue to understand the 'grab me a soda' scenario Is FI-ROS a bridge? * Roberto: in this case it would be helfpul to expose the platform APIs through it FI-ROS is on the robot or on the Robot Clone Manager, always a way to talk to the robot is present * Single way to talk to the robot Roberto: RCM is not only ROS * it can be multiple ROSes, * which are managed as a platform AP: ET will update the diagram and share this with all AP: TI to update it accordingly * reminders for I2ND call on Thu: * We need to have more ideas on KIARA * Ask information on OFNIC Angel: What about asking Ogilvy about the scenarios we're going to provide? * It can be a very high level video promoting robotics in FIWARE * We'll agree on the contents * Pier: Let's talk about it in the call I2ND Closing the call at 4:30pm BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation - Research & Prototyping Via G. 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I will try to summarise my understanding of this as Juanjo told me it worked, I also add the related lists: Topic "old" FIWARE "new" FIWARE Network WP7 List: old-fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Pier) WP 1.8 List: fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Pier) Robotics (N/A) N/A WP 1.8 List: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org(managed by Pier) (I guess that they will be also included under fiware-i2nd managed by Pier) Middleware WP13 List: fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Christof) Also miwi-middleware at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Christof and now deprecated) WP 1.8 List: fiware-middleware at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Christof/Thomas) (I guess that they will be also included under fiware-i2nd managed by Pier) Web UI WP13 List: fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Christof) WP 1.5 List: fiware-webui at lists.fi-ware.org (managed by Philipp) For Pier, Christof, Thomas & Philipp: anyone on any of the lists should be added to the general mailing list (fiware at lists.fi-ware.org). Please add them to it whenever you add a new person to the per-chapter lists. Please synchronise now the current lists, I see discrepancies. Note that old "miwi-middleware" is no longer in use. Please delete it from your address books! "miwi-middleware" and "fiware-middleware" are so similar that you may make mistakes. I copied across all the members from miwi-middleware list to fiware-middleware with one exception (we cannot accept non corporate addresses) and two deleted people (a university that is not on board anymore). 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There are a number of references to KIARA. Indeed, I spent the time after the KOM intensively with KIARA and we make good progress. The call on Thu will be a good chance to inform all of you and I will dully do so. Cheers, Thomas On 10/07/2014 05:41 PM, Garino Pierangelo wrote: > Hi All, > > this is a short summary of our Robotics confcall. > > It?s rather schematic, please add anything you could consider worth to > include to make it clearer. As said, next time we?ll use a shared > document so that everybody can add own contributions whenever necessary. > > Pier? intro/agenda: > > ?First item to address is defining the approach for robotics > > ?Afterwards we?ll have to: > > o Agree on the architecture > + Submit to Thomas a proposal for his vision on the point > o Define who does what > o Define the roadmap of GE developments > > Robotics calls: > > ?1 weekly call > > oAgreement on date/time: > > oBetter beginning or at the end of day for Exte-tar > > oBetter beginning of the day for Roberto > > o10am of Thursday is fine for everybody > > ?AP: Pier to organise the shared doc for minutes and send periodic > calendar reminder > > ?Note: Every 2 weeks there is an I2ND chapter PhC (Thu @ 11am) > > Angel: are we going to use JIRA or not? > > ?There will be JIRA tracker for Robotics > > _Discussion on Scenarios_ > > __ > > Pier concerning first item of agenda: the overall robotics approach in > FIWARE should consider the following: > > oOur proposition must be targeting users like i.e. SMEs, start ups, etc > in the full spirit of the FIWARE and FI-PPP initiative > > oWe want to provide functionalities to ease robot management in FIWARE > > oWe want to support a wide range of possible implementations > > + From sophisticated to dumb robots > + From single to many robots > > __ > > __ > > ?ET proposal: Worries about latency when outside a local network > > ?TI: different tasks should be considered > > ?Reactive tasks: can be placed on the RCM > > ?(simplified) sequence diagram sent by Roberto > > oSome task can be moved to the robot side, in case of more performant device > > oOthers can be moved to the platform side > > ?ET: Agreement on the basics of the architecture, but: > > ?No raw data from robot to platform. However, this is not raw data to > high level application > > What would be the KIARA role in Robotics GE? > > Two main components: > > ?Robot clone (RCM) > > ?FI-ROS (translator to NGSI) > > oET: translating into different protocols; it does also additional > functionality, like Making robots talk to each other > > oRoberto: there is not a single ROS core, but several, one for each > container > > Need to identify the behaviour of each component in the Robotics GE > > Roberto: Decentralise to share functionality in a platform > > Question by Angel: what are the ways for a web developer to write a > robotics application? > > According to Roberto: > > ?access to APIs of the platform, > > ?plus maybe some IoT interaction, > > ?the like done when developing an app for a smartphone (don't like to > manage data of a single sensor, but rather some higher level functionality) > > Angel: we should have one way to talk to the robot > > ?This is within FIWARE in the case of the ET example > > ?Roberto: agree on this approach > > What would be the communication with FIWARE? > > ?Communication should go through KIARA (always?) > > ?Single northbound interface, and one only way to interact with robots > > ?What about NGSI?? > > ?We need to understand better KIARA beforehand > > ?FI-ROS should be the communication channel towards FIWARE > > ?Also top to bottom it is the way to communicate to robots or through > the RCM > > oIf RCM is used, then it is in the cloud > > oIf using directly FI-ROS, then it can be on the robot > > Roberto: In the case of RCM communicating with robot, KIARA is most > likely not used > > ET: We'll do the exercise to put the functions in the boxes, and compare > them > > Roberto: Some issue to understand the 'grab me a soda' scenario > > Is FI-ROS a bridge? > > ?Roberto: in this case it would be helfpul to expose the platform APIs > through it > > FI-ROS is on the robot or on the Robot Clone Manager, always a way to > talk to the robot is present > > ?Single way to talk to the robot > > Roberto: RCM is not only ROS > > ?it can be multiple ROSes, > > ?which are managed as a platform > > AP:ET will update the diagram and share this with all > > AP:TI to update it accordingly > > ?reminders for I2ND call on Thu: > > ?We need to have more ideas on KIARA > > ?Ask information on OFNIC > > Angel: What about asking Ogilvy about the scenarios we're going to provide? > > ?It can be a very high level video promoting robotics in FIWARE > > ?We'll agree on the contents > > ?Pier: Let's talk about it in the call I2ND > > Closing the call at 4:30pm > > BR > > Pier > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Telecom Italia > *Pierangelo Garino > Innovation ? Research & Prototyping > > Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO > > Tel: +39 011 228 7142 > > Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle > persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione > derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente > vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete > cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di > provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. > > /This e-mail and any attachments//is //confidential and may contain > privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. > Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and > any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks./ > > *rispetta l'ambienteRispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non > ? necessario.* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-robotics mailing list > Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics > From fherranz at ikergune.com Tue Oct 14 16:32:40 2014 From: fherranz at ikergune.com (Fernando Herranz) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:32:40 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE References: , <1pvi1v4ejd2rn1t3y0is7sip.1412277096529@email.android.com> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D92D3CF@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Message-ID: hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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Name: Robotics Generic Enabler2_v2.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 583316 bytes Desc: Robotics Generic Enabler2_v2.pptx URL: From roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it Wed Oct 15 18:17:09 2014 From: roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it (Antonini Roberto) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:17:09 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: , <1pvi1v4ejd2rn1t3y0is7sip.1412277096529@email.android.com> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D92D3CF@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Message-ID: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D932052@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Thu Oct 16 14:10:53 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:10:53 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE References: , <1pvi1v4ejd2rn1t3y0is7sip.1412277096529@email.android.com> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D92D3CF@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D932052@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Message-ID: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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URL: From roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it Thu Oct 16 14:24:34 2014 From: roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it (Antonini Roberto) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:24:34 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: , <1pvi1v4ejd2rn1t3y0is7sip.1412277096529@email.android.com> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D92D3CF@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D932052@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Message-ID: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA862D9326FA@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Hi all, for me, every dates/times, is fine. Thanks, R Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 14:11 A: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahernandez at ikergune.com Fri Oct 17 15:41:22 2014 From: ahernandez at ikergune.com (Angel Hernandez) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:41:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Message-ID: <0ucdltjgytqhfhfmwvn5ms5u.1413553276665@email.android.com> Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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URL: From thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch Fri Oct 17 15:54:54 2014 From: thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch (Thomas Michael Bohnert) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:54:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: <65fc6db75aaa4e6aad4e0356ab4e2f43@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <65fc6db75aaa4e6aad4e0356ab4e2f43@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <54411FAE.3010004@zhaw.ch> HI all, Am acting as a jury member of one of the FIWARE challenges in Spain and represented FIWARE during the EuropeanPioneers SME event. Sorry, but am quite consumed these days with FIWARE evangelization ... Cheers, Thomas On 10/17/2014 03:41 PM, Angel Hernandez wrote: > Hello all, > Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. > As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. > I can do Monday at 11. > From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. > I think the input f Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. > Talk to you on monday > > Sent from: Lenovo K910 > > Garino Pierangelo wrote: > > Dear All, > > I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. > > Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to > schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind > that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). > > Proposals are: > > Mon 20^th ? 11:00 > > Tue 21^st - 9:30 > > Tue 21^st ? 16:00 > > Please let me know if some of these dates/times **do not** work for you. > > BR > > Pier > > *Da:*Garino Pierangelo > *Inviato:* gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 > *A:* 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez > *Cc:* fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > *Oggetto:* R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of > Robotics Platform GE > > Dear All, > > I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I > interpret this wrongly? > > BR > > Pier > > *Da:*fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org > [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] *Per conto di *Jose > Jaime Ariza > *Inviato:* gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 > *A:* Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez > *Cc:* fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > *Oggetto:* Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of > Robotics Platform GE > > Hi all, > > We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we > wouldn't be able to attend this call. > > Sorry for the inconvenience, > Jos? > > On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: > > Dear all, > > After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we > analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and > we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a > common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find > such a proposal. > > Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. > > Hear you tomorrow. > > BR > > Roberto > > *Da:*Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] > *Inviato:* marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 > *A:* Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; > fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > *Cc:* Gaspardone Marco > *Oggetto:* Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of > Robotics Platform GE > > hello al, > > I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. > > Cheers! > On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: > > Hi all > > Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus > some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our > proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, > localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we > consider dummy robot. > > The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at > robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case > FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate > with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. > > _What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser > scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence > performing all functions at app side._ > > I look forward to hearing you today. > > BR > > Roberto > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] > Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 > A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; > fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of > Robotics Platform GE > > Hello everyone, > > I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". > We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. > > ________________________________________ > > De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org > > [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org > ] En nombre de > Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it > ] > > Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 > > Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; > fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > > Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics > Platform GE > > Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. > > Roberto > > Inviato da Samsung Mobile > > -------- Messaggio originale -------- > > Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics > Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > > > > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > " > > > > Cc: > > Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for > closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about > postponing our call at 15:00 same day? > > Pier > > Inviato da Samsung Mobile > > -------- Messaggio originale -------- > > Da: Angel Hernandez > > > Data: > > A: Garino Pierangelo > ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > > Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics > Platform GE > > Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. > > What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? > > Sent from: Lenovo K910 > > Garino Pierangelo > wrote: > > Hello Fernando and All, > > I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall > on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at > 11:00 CEST. > > Are you all available? > > BR > > Pier > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org > > [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di > Fernando Herranz > > Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 > > A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > > Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics > Platform GE > > Hello Roberto and all, > > My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from > Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in > Madrid. > > We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, > so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in > this robotic generic enabler. > > I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and > Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that > we should take it into account. > > Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really > like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. > First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you > to some other people from our team. > > Cheers > > ________________________________________ > > De: Angel Hernandez > > Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 > > Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz > > Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE > > De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] > > Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 > > Para: Angel Hernandez > > CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert > (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch ) > > Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE > > Hi Angel, > > this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so > much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! > > Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference > architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first > proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where > should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each > components, in the following a brief explanation: > > ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, > that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the > form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can > reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible > sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific > for a definite set of robots. > > ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a > both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol > adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, > > Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in > order to converge to a definite and shared reference > architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine > everything concerning FIBOT. > > I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) > > My Best, > > Roberto. > > Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] > > Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 > > A: Antonini Roberto > > Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco > > Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE > > Hello Roberto, > > Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. > > My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them > your email and gave some suggestions. > > Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will > distribute it asap. > > Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit > complicated because we are moving into a new office in a > different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much > time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a > trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new > office as soon as we are done moving ? > > I?ll email you more info later today. > > Thanks! > > De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] > > Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 > > Para: Angel Hernandez > > CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco > > Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE > > Hi Angel, > > I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a > recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: > > ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining > robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I > would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from > robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users > (SME). > > ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are > functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. > To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for > robotics, we propose the following scope separation: > > o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature > data. > > o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots > encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to > point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? > > One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to > move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid > obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but > is solve internally. > > In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very > first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the > methodology above described and we wait for your comments and > functionalities/scenario proposal. > > For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. > > P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit > our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. > > BR > > Roberto. > > Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati > esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o > qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste > informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate > ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati > di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere > alla sua distruzione, Grazie. > > This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain > privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. > Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is > unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please > delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by > return e-mail, Thanks. > > [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0] > Rispetta > l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. > > _______________________________________________ > > Fiware-robotics mailing list > > Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics > > _______________________________________________ > > Fiware-robotics mailing list > > Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org > > > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics > From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Fri Oct 17 15:57:44 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:57:44 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: <0ucdltjgytqhfhfmwvn5ms5u.1413553276665@email.android.com> References: <0ucdltjgytqhfhfmwvn5ms5u.1413553276665@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics _______________________________________________ Fiware-robotics mailing list Fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-robotics -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahernandez at ikergune.com Fri Oct 17 16:07:50 2014 From: ahernandez at ikergune.com (Angel Hernandez) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:07:50 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Message-ID: Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good. Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day. Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware! Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Mon Oct 20 11:11:14 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:11:14 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] FIWARE Robotics Periodic confcall Message-ID: Link to minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TPISISh7axKXz_gfg2wM3EmKqhWsTTFph3yetXdkS-g/edit# Pier Hi All, this call is anticipated to Monday 20th @ 11am. BR Pier Hi All, this is the periodic reminder for the Robotics Confcall. We?ll stay within 1h of call. We?ll use powwownow, numbers to dial can be found at link http://www.powwownow.com/International-DialIn-Numbers/ PIN 075102 BR Pier Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. 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Of course I understand this is not yet finalized but you may be able to bring the current ideas on the table. It will definitively help to collect feedback from other FIWARE Chapter architects and make sure they are aware of your plans (and therefore take them into consideration in their own plans). I won't cover any other topic in the agenda of this first weekly meeting because I want to check how long discussions on topics like this can be and thererfore be able to program how many topics (either two or just one) is feasible to cover in this kind of meetings. Therefore feel relaxed, there will be plenty of time to elaborate on the ideas currently under discussion. I would suggest that you bring some slides that can help people to follow the discussions. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Telefonica - Product Development and Innovation (PDI) website: www.tid.es email: juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud de la legislaci?n vigente. 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Se n?o ? vossa senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destrui??o -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch Tue Oct 21 11:30:42 2014 From: thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch (Thomas Michael Bohnert) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:30:42 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] Presentation at FIWARE Architects weekly meeting In-Reply-To: <88a26ebe1ae04c42bdcf4df76255150f@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> References: <88a26ebe1ae04c42bdcf4df76255150f@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch> Message-ID: <544627C2.1060506@zhaw.ch> Juanjo, To me this is too early. We still haven't finished a detailed analysis and proposal to change ROS to be FIWARE native. Best - Thomas On 10/21/2014 10:16 AM, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Folks, > > It is my intention to start regular weekly meetings (monday morning, > from 11:00 to 12:30) on Architecture topics involving the different > FIWARE Chapter Architects but also open to anyone who wishes to attend. > > We would cover one or two major technical topics on this weekly meetings. > > I would like to setup the first of this series of weekly meetings on > Monday October 27th ... and I would love that some of you guys make a > presentation on the technical FIWARE Reference Architecture dealing with > connection to robots currently under discussion. Of course I understand > this is not yet finalized but you may be able to bring the current ideas > on the table. It will definitively help to collect feedback from other > FIWARE Chapter architects and make sure they are aware of your plans > (and therefore take them into consideration in their own plans). > > I won't cover any other topic in the agenda of this first weekly > meeting because I want to check how long discussions on topics like this > can be and thererfore be able to program how many topics (either two or > just one) is feasible to cover in this kind of meetings. Therefore > feel relaxed, there will be plenty of time to elaborate on the ideas > currently under discussion. I would suggest that you bring some slides > that can help people to follow the discussions. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > ------------- > Telefonica - Product Development and Innovation (PDI) > website:www.tid.es > email:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator > and Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.org > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener informaci?n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el > destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci?n, > divulgaci?n y/o copia sin autorizaci?n puede estar prohibida en virtud > de la legislaci?n vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le > rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v?a y proceda > a su destrucci?n. > > The information contained in this transmission is privileged and > confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately > reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error > and then delete it. > > Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu > destinat?rio, pode conter informa??o privilegiada ou confidencial e ? > para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se n?o ? vossa > senhoria o destinat?rio indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, > utiliza??o, divulga??o e/ou c?pia sem autoriza??o pode estar proibida em > virtude da legisla??o vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, > rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e > proceda a sua destrui??o From jjaime at ikergune.com Wed Oct 29 17:32:49 2014 From: jjaime at ikergune.com (Jose Jaime Ariza) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:32:49 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I attach the update of the proposal with NGSI and CoAP scenarios and a small comparison between NGSI and CoAP. I also attach a list with the data types managed by the FIROS interface. Bests, Jose ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: viernes, 17 de octubre de 2014 16:07 Para: Pier Pierangelo Garino CC: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Asunto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good. Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day. Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware! Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo > A:Angel Hernandez >,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" > Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo ,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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Thanks again, my best, Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 17:33 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi, I attach the update of the proposal with NGSI and CoAP scenarios and a small comparison between NGSI and CoAP. I also attach a list with the data types managed by the FIROS interface. Bests, Jose ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: viernes, 17 de octubre de 2014 16:07 Para: Pier Pierangelo Garino CC: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Asunto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good. Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day. Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware! Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo >> A:Angel Hernandez >>,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" >> Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo >,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch>) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Thu Oct 30 09:51:30 2014 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:51:30 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE In-Reply-To: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA863BCA35D9@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local> References: <246C286B275B1B46A255552CD236DA863BCA35D9@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Message-ID: Hi All, Roberto is not able to attend the call, moreover I have been ?invited? to a urgent internal meeting at 10:30, however I would like to have a short call from 10 to 10:30, to check with you some items about the discussion on going. Are you available? I propose we use google hangouts. BR Pier Da: Antonini Roberto Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 18:09 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, thanks for having shared some details more about your developments. We take our time to analyse your docs and the chance to inform you that the next PhCs I won't be available as I will be involved in a very time consuming activity. Hence to summarize: on 30/10 and 6/11 I won't attend to PhC. Anyway I stay tuned I will try to interact via e-mail. Thanks again, my best, Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 17:33 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi, I attach the update of the proposal with NGSI and CoAP scenarios and a small comparison between NGSI and CoAP. I also attach a list with the data types managed by the FIROS interface. Bests, Jose ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: viernes, 17 de octubre de 2014 16:07 Para: Pier Pierangelo Garino CC: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Asunto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good. Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day. Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware! Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo >> A:Angel Hernandez >>,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" >> Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo >,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch>) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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URL: From ahernandez at ikergune.com Thu Oct 30 09:56:21 2014 From: ahernandez at ikergune.com (Angel Hernandez) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:56:21 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform Message-ID: Yeah, give us 10 minutes and we will be online Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hi All, Roberto is not able to attend the call, moreover I have been ?invited? to a urgent internal meeting at 10:30, however I would like to have a short call from 10 to 10:30, to check with you some items about the discussion on going. Are you available? I propose we use google hangouts. BR Pier Da: Antonini Roberto Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 18:09 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, thanks for having shared some details more about your developments. We take our time to analyse your docs and the chance to inform you that the next PhCs I won't be available as I will be involved in a very time consuming activity. Hence to summarize: on 30/10 and 6/11 I won't attend to PhC. Anyway I stay tuned I will try to interact via e-mail. Thanks again, my best, Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 17:33 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi, I attach the update of the proposal with NGSI and CoAP scenarios and a small comparison between NGSI and CoAP. I also attach a list with the data types managed by the FIROS interface. Bests, Jose ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: viernes, 17 de octubre de 2014 16:07 Para: Pier Pierangelo Garino CC: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Asunto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good. Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day. Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware! Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo >> A:Angel Hernandez >>,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" >> Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo >,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch>) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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URL: From jjaime at ikergune.com Thu Oct 30 10:05:31 2014 From: jjaime at ikergune.com (Jose Jaime Ariza) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:05:31 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform References: Message-ID: Hi, Our Hangout accounts are: ferherranz at gmail.com jjaime at ikergune.com On 30/10/14 09:56, Angel Hernandez wrote: Yeah, give us 10 minutes and we will be online Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo wrote: Hi All, Roberto is not able to attend the call, moreover I have been ?invited? to a urgent internal meeting at 10:30, however I would like to have a short call from 10 to 10:30, to check with you some items about the discussion on going. Are you available? I propose we use google hangouts. BR Pier Da: Antonini Roberto Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 18:09 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, thanks for having shared some details more about your developments. We take our time to analyse your docs and the chance to inform you that the next PhCs I won't be available as I will be involved in a very time consuming activity. Hence to summarize: on 30/10 and 6/11 I won't attend to PhC. Anyway I stay tuned I will try to interact via e-mail. Thanks again, my best, Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: mercoled? 29 ottobre 2014 17:33 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi, I attach the update of the proposal with NGSI and CoAP scenarios and a small comparison between NGSI and CoAP. I also attach a list with the data types managed by the FIROS interface. Bests, Jose ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: viernes, 17 de octubre de 2014 16:07 Para: Pier Pierangelo Garino CC: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Asunto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good. Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day. Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware! Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo > wrote: Hi Angel, Thanks for your reply, I?ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you). I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas. Let?s see if we can all join on Monday morning! BR Pier Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: venerd? 17 ottobre 2014 15:41 A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello all, Please forgive me for the missunderstanding. As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated. I can do Monday at 11. From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development. I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it. Talk to you on monday Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Dear All, I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending. Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I?ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day). Proposals are: Mon 20th ? 11:00 Tue 21st - 9:30 Tue 21st ? 16:00 Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you. BR Pier Da: Garino Pierangelo Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 10:25 A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Dear All, I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza Inviato: gioved? 16 ottobre 2014 00:34 A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi all, We (Fernando and Jos?) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call. Sorry for the inconvenience, Jos? On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote: Dear all, After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal. Please let us know if it is right from your point of view. Hear you tomorrow. BR Roberto Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: marted? 14 ottobre 2014 16:33 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Cc: Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE hello al, I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view. Cheers! On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote: Hi all Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot. The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes. What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side. I look forward to hearing you today. BR Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com] Inviato: luned? 6 ottobre 2014 17:52 A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello everyone, I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting. ________________________________________ De: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] En nombre de Antonini Roberto [roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09 Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go. Roberto Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo >> A:Angel Hernandez >>,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org" >> Cc: Hi All, it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day? Pier Inviato da Samsung Mobile -------- Messaggio originale -------- Da: Angel Hernandez Data: A: Garino Pierangelo >,fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Pier, thats the same time as the CA call. What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12? Sent from: Lenovo K910 Garino Pierangelo >> wrote: Hello Fernando and All, I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST. Are you all available? BR Pier -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz Inviato: gioved? 2 ottobre 2014 17:45 A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org> Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto and all, My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid. We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler. I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account. Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team. Cheers ________________________________________ De: Angel Hernandez Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26 Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch>) Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at following everything, sorry for my late reply!! Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation: ? RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called ?remote brain? where ?neurons?, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots. ? FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into ?things? of IoT domain, Mine it?s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT. I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-) My Best, Roberto. Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com] Inviato: gioved? 18 settembre 2014 08:30 A: Antonini Roberto Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hello Roberto, Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip. My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions. Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap. Also, Thank you for the invitation ? these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don?t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ? I?ll email you more info later today. Thanks! De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10 Para: Angel Hernandez CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Hi Angel, I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting: ? Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME). ? From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we?d like to work, according to DoW. To better identify IoT domain and, let?s say, ?cloud? domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation: o Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data. o Data from/to ?Cloud?, to ask cloud to solve problems robots encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on? One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point, the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally. In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we?d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal. For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call. P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we?d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available. BR Roberto. Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CFDBFE.6512A2D0]Rispetta l'ambiente. 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