[Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform

Angel Hernandez ahernandez at ikergune.com
Thu Oct 30 09:56:21 CET 2014


Yeah, give us 10 minutes and we will be online

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Garino Pierangelo <pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it> wrote:


Hi All,

Roberto is not able to attend the call, moreover I have been ‘invited’ to a urgent internal meeting at 10:30, however I would like to have a short call from 10 to 10:30, to check with you some items about the discussion on going. Are you available?
I propose we use google hangouts.

BR
Pier




Da: Antonini Roberto
Inviato: mercoledì 29 ottobre 2014 18:09
A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org
Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza
Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE


Hi all,

thanks for having shared some details more about your developments. We take our time to analyse your docs and the chance to inform you that the next PhCs I won't be available as I will be involved in a very time consuming activity. Hence to summarize: on 30/10 and 6/11 I won't attend to PhC.

Anyway I stay tuned I will try to interact via e-mail.



Thanks again,

my best,

Roberto







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Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza
Inviato: mercoledì 29 ottobre 2014 17:33
A: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org
Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE



Hi,



I attach the update of the proposal with NGSI and CoAP scenarios and a small comparison between NGSI and CoAP.

I also attach a list with the data types managed by the FIROS interface.



Bests,

Jose



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De: Angel Hernandez

Enviado el: viernes, 17 de octubre de 2014 16:07

Para: Pier Pierangelo Garino

CC: Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz

Asunto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE



Oh, no, I'll be already in Spain. So it's all good.

Thomas, that's good. Fiware needs you more urgently than us, so just let us know when it works better for you any other day.

Btw... We could do some evangelization over here... They need fiware!







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Garino Pierangelo <pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it>> wrote:





Hi Angel,



Thanks for your reply, I’ll schedule the call at that time so that you can attend (but will you still be in Boston? In such case it would be still complicated, i.e. rather early, for you).

I believe too that, in parallel to the final refinements still necessary, it can be time to get the feedback of Thomas.

Let’s see if we can all join on Monday morning!

BR

Pier





Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com]

Inviato: venerdì 17 ottobre 2014 15:41

A: Garino Pierangelo; Jose Jaime Ariza; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz

Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE





Hello all,



Please forgive me for the missunderstanding.



As you know I am now in Boston and the time difference makes everything complicated.



I can do Monday at 11.



From what I've seen so far, it seems like we are pretty close to agree on the development.



I think the input from Thomas will be very valuable if we can have it.



Talk to you on monday







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Garino Pierangelo <pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it%3cmailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it>>> wrote:





Dear All,



I cancelled the call as we were only two people from TI attending.

Progressing on the topic is extremely important, therefore I want to schedule another call soon, earlier than Thursday next week (I remind that I’ll be to a FIWARE info day so I cannot attend that day).

Proposals are:

Mon 20th  – 11:00

Tue 21st  - 9:30

Tue 21st – 16:00

Please let me know if some of these dates/times *do not* work for you.



BR

Pier





Da: Garino Pierangelo

Inviato: giovedì 16 ottobre 2014 10:25

A: 'Jose Jaime Ariza'; Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez

Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org

Oggetto: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE



Dear All,



I understood that Angel could anyway attend the call today, did I interpret this wrongly?



BR

Pier





Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Jose Jaime Ariza

Inviato: giovedì 16 ottobre 2014 00:34

A: Antonini Roberto; Fernando Herranz; Angel Hernandez

Cc: fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org

Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE



Hi all,



We (Fernando and José) are attending a Fiware event in Sevilla so we wouldn't be able to attend this call.



Sorry for the inconvenience,

José



On 15/10/14 18:17, Antonini Roberto wrote:



Dear all,







After the last meeting and your proposal diagram sent yesterday, we analysed the block diagram and architecture of the Robotics GE and we have made some slight changes based on what we consider to be a common point between the parties. In the attached file, you can find such a proposal.







Please let us know if it is right from your point of view.



Hear you tomorrow.







BR



Roberto





Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com]

Inviato: martedì 14 ottobre 2014 16:33

A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org>

Cc: Gaspardone Marco

Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE



hello al,



I attach the update of our proposal following Roberto's point of view.



Cheers!

On 07/10/14 12:53, Antonini Roberto wrote:



Hi all



Just another couple of slides with a sequence diagram to focus some concepts and split your scenario into simpler tasks. In our proposal all functions (mission planning, path planning, localization etc) are performed at platform sides, as we consider dummy robot.



The more robot is less dummy the more functions can be moved at robot side, e.g. path planning function, in this last  case FIROS can be installed also at robot side to make it communicate with high level app, with maybe KIARA communication processes.







What we'd like to avoid is send all raw data (odometry, laser scan, arm motion and image) to high level app and hence performing all functions at app side.







I look forward to hearing you today.







BR



Roberto











-----Messaggio originale-----

Da: Fernando Herranz [mailto:fherranz at ikergune.com]

Inviato: lunedì 6 ottobre 2014 17:52

A: Antonini Roberto; Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org>

Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







Hello everyone,







I attach a detailed explation of the "grab me a soda scenario". We would like to discuss this architecture during tomorrow meeting.



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Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 21:09



Para: Garino Pierangelo; Angel Hernandez; fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org%3cmailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org>>



Asunto: [Fiware-robotics] R: R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







Fine for me. At 5 pm I have to go.



Roberto











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Oggetto:[Fiware-robotics] R: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE Da:Garino Pierangelo <pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it%3cmailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it>>>



A:Angel Hernandez <ahernandez at ikergune.com<mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com<mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com%3cmailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com>>>,"fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org><mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org%3cmailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org%3e>" <fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org%3cmailto:fiware-robotics at lists.fi-ware.org>>>



Cc:











Hi All,  it happens that at the same time there is a call for closing the CA and some of us might need to attend. What about postponing our call at 15:00 same day?



Pier















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Data:



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Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE











Pier, thats the same time as the CA call.



What a coincidence. Can we do it later on tuesday, maybe at 12?











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Garino Pierangelo <pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it%3cmailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it>>> wrote:











Hello Fernando and All,







I take the opportunity of your mail to organize a first confcall on the topic: my proposal is to have it on Tuesday Oct 7th, at 11:00 CEST.







Are you all available?







BR



Pier











-----Messaggio originale-----



Da: fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org> [mailto:fiware-robotics-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] Per conto di Fernando Herranz



Inviato: giovedì 2 ottobre 2014 17:45



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Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-robotics] First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







Hello Roberto and all,







My name is Fernando, I am part of the robotic team from Etxe-tar. I met some of you during the last kick-off meeting in Madrid.







We have been reviewing your platform and we think it looks good, so far I think we should clarify what is the role of kiara in this robotic generic enabler.







I have noticed that there is no kiara node between the IoT and Robotic GE. After the last meeting, it did look very clear that we should take it into account.







Piere, Thomas, What do you think about that? we would really like to have a conference call with you guys for two reason. First, to discuss about this topic and second to introduce you to some other people from our team.







Cheers



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De: Angel Hernandez



Enviado el: jueves, 02 de octubre de 2014 17:26



Para: Jose Jaime Ariza; Fernando Herranz



Asunto: RV: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it]



Enviado el: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 16:33



Para: Angel Hernandez



CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco; Thomas Michael Bohnert (thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch<mailto:thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch<mailto:thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch%3cmailto:thomas.bohnert at zhaw.ch>>)



Asunto: R: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







Hi Angel,



this last period, for us, is very intensive and we struggle so much at  following everything, sorry for my late reply!!



Here attached is a slight evolution of our reference architecture, in the last slide you can find a very first proposal of integration of our architecture in FIWARE one, where should be clear the specific interactions and the role of each components, in the following a brief explanation:







·         RCM modules represents robot clones into platform, that is the so called “remote brain” where “neurons”, in the form of ROS nodes, run to solve complex problem. the modules can reside both at backend side, to aggregate as much as possible sharing functionalities, and gateway side, to be more specific for a definite set of robots.







·         FIBOT modules, in my opinion, could be represent a both a bridge to empower specific NGSI robot APIs and protocol adapter to translates robot sensors into “things” of IoT domain,



Mine it’s only a proposal to try to finalize our discussion, in order to converge to a definite and shared reference architecture, therefore feel free to integrate and redefine everything concerning FIBOT.



I hope we are not so far, conceptually speaking ;-)







My Best,



                Roberto.











Da: Angel Hernandez [mailto:ahernandez at ikergune.com]



Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2014 08:30



A: Antonini Roberto



Cc: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco



Oggetto: RE: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







Hello Roberto,



Sorry for my late reply, I have been on another business trip.



My team has been working on some scenarios. I also sent them your email and gave some suggestions.



Please let me put all together in a presentation and I will distribute it asap.



Also, Thank you for the invitation ☺ these days are a little bit complicated because we are moving into a new office in a different city (Bilbao, good food) and I really don’t have much time to travel until we get done with it. What about planning a trip in November? I would also like to invite you to our new office as soon as we are done moving ☺







I’ll email you more info later today.







Thanks!















De: Antonini Roberto [mailto:roberto1.antonini at telecomitalia.it]



Enviado el: martes, 16 de septiembre de 2014 10:10



Para: Angel Hernandez



CC: Garino Pierangelo; Gaspardone Marco



Asunto: First proposal of Robotics Platform GE







Hi Angel,



I hope you had a pleasant journey on your way back home. Just a recap of what we agreed during Madrid meeting:







·         Defining two (max three) scenarii for declining robotics into FIWare context, for describing each scenario I would adopt classical bottom-up approach, i.e. starting from robot perspective until FIWARE APIs to expose to external users (SME).







·         From above scenarii, trying to define what are functionalities on which we’d like to work, according to DoW.  To better identify IoT domain and, let’s say, “cloud” domain for robotics, we propose the following scope separation:







o   Data from/to IoT, to switch on lamps and collect temperature data.







o   Data from/to “Cloud”, to ask cloud to solve problems robots  encounter during operations, hence: moving robot from point A to point B; how to manage a door handle; how to grab a beer and so on…







One of the entry points could be an API tells FIWARE Platform to move a robot to a well-defined point,  the way robots avoid obstacles recognize objects and so on, is not expose outside but is solve internally.















In attached PPT a very first draft of our scenario and a very first architecture proposal , we‘d like to know if you agree the methodology above described and we wait for your comments and functionalities/scenario proposal.















For further clarifications, we can hear in a conf call.







P.S. As I told you in Madrid , we’d like to invite you to visit our laboratories here in Turin. Let me know when you are available.







BR



Roberto.























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