Dear all, This suggestion seems understandable to me. As I said, now the next step would be to listen to your comments and propositions and then issue the best possible openness governance model and rules for the Fiware community. I don't know now the best method to collaborate on this last round but emails is also an option, so we need to discuss (Juanjo, Stefano, Juan and I) and let you know how. I hope that I could tell in the next coming days. Joel -----Message d'origine----- De : Philipp Slusallek [mailto:philipp.slusallek at dfki.de] Envoyé : vendredi 22 mai 2015 07:36 À : stefano de panfilis Cc : Fiware-sust-found at lists.fi-ware.org; RIGA Joel IMT/OLPS Objet : Re: [Fiware-sust-found] Fiware Community principles Hi Stefano, Excellent, I am looking forward to it. BTW, sorry, if I am raising the topic of UC collaboration repeatedly. But from what I have seen, we are wasting a lot of potential by not integrating the already existing FI-PPP partners as well as we should (of course only where they are willing and prepared -- at least some of them really are!). Those that are interesting (from my perspective) had to (also) look for alternative strategies as there was no clear offer from FIWARE on the table. Instead of waiting to set up the overall structure for external partners, we should already be moving forward, trailblaze, and evaluate with the existing partners the processes we plan to set in place. Just for example FIcontent (as I am most familier with it): There is a lot of feedback and experience in FIcontent trying to set up their FIC2-Lab within the context of FIWARE-Lab (e.g. also including Docker). Both their Web-Based Developer Playground for real-time editing/running/sharing via social networks of GE/SE usage examples or their One-Click deployment of entire arrangements of GEs/SEs (via Docker) is something that would be very interesting also for FIWARE. We should -- at least -- be talking to them about that and planning if and how we can take on board the best of those ideas. I am missing this discussion being driven be FIWARE. However, we must ensure that any such integration is based on an equal playing field. FIcontent has sent to Juanjo an email requesting such closer collaboration, suggesting setting up some direkt links and discussion of the way forward. I very much hope that we as FIWARE will be engaging here. Best, Philipp P.S.: For full disclosure, I am involved in FIcontent and (to a much lesser degree) in FITMAN and have co-signed the FIC2 letter to Juanjo. Am 21.05.2015 um 15:55 schrieb stefano de panfilis: > Dear philipp, > > sorry your email lost in the thread.... > > as said by joel yesterday was the first interaction with uc projects > and, as an outcome of the meeting, it was agreed us to communicate the > plan we intend to follow to publish and launch the fiware oss community. > > this way they can contribute if they wish. > it is expected to communicate the plan at the very most tomorrow. > > ciao, > stefano > > 2015-05-20 15:37 GMT+02:00 <joel.riga at orange.com > <mailto:joel.riga at orange.com>>: > > Dear Philipp, > > Yesterday was the first interaction with other projects (including > usecase projects ? Stefano could tell us I think). > > Joel > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Philipp Slusallek [mailto:philipp.slusallek at dfki.de > <mailto:philipp.slusallek at dfki.de>] > Envoyé : mercredi 20 mai 2015 13:31 > À : RIGA Joel IMT/OLPS > Cc : Fiware-sust-found at lists.fi-ware.org > <mailto:Fiware-sust-found at lists.fi-ware.org> > Objet : Re: [Fiware-sust-found] Fiware Community principles > > Hi, > > Quick question: To what degree has have these plans be communicated > and coordinated with the use-case projects yet? > > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 20.05.2015 um 11:36 schrieb joel.riga at orange.com > <mailto:joel.riga at orange.com>: > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > Please find (finally) the document that have been showed yesterday in > > Brussels during a meeting concerning Sustainability (cross projects). > > The next coming phase is to take your remarks and expectation into > > account so that we can be aligned before the creation of such a > > community. 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