dear pierre-yves, as said yesterday this is my line. however i think the costs of fede are little bit high as they foresee 200k for 104 cores. in my calculations the costs, including also level 1 and level 2 support plus back up are about 1.000 eur per physical core. fede calculation brings everything out of the cloud market if we consider nowdays normal costs for a vm with 1 vm core, 4mb ram and 20 mb hd, of about 25 euros per month. nevertheless we are on the same page concerning the approach. ciao, stefano 2016-03-29 10:43 GMT+02:00 <pierreyves.danet at orange.com>: > Dear All, > > > > Following our call yesterday and regarding the WP4, I would like to come > back about the conclusions of our discussion because they are not reflected > in the minutes so far > > > > We all agree that such a FIWARE Labs can’t be sustainable without public > money if we want to open them to web developer for free (which is mandatory > to attract students and SMEs which will never pay for such a service). > > > > Then we need to have reference implementations able to test the new FIWARE > software versions before putting them online. > > > > Regarding the possibility for collaborative projects (H2020 and national) > to pay to access to FIWARE Lab, we can think about but I do not see how to > convince them to pay if others could access for free > > > > For these reasons, we need to get founding’s from the Commission at least > during the duration of FI-NEXT but we need to show as well that we are > contributing from our own (we shall pay 30 % - Innovation action and we can > also show the real cost of the platform operation (see document attached > providing by Fede Facca page 10) and the funds required, I think it will > clarify and show to the reviewers that we are still investing on FIWARE. > > > > Hope it helps > > > > PY > > > > > > > > > > > > *De :* JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA [mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com] > *Envoyé :* lundi 28 mars 2016 11:45 > *À :* fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org; stefano de > panfilis; Lanfranco Marasso (lanfranco.marasso at eng.it); Pezuela Robles, > Clara M; De Lama Sanchez, Nuria; PRIVAT Gilles IMT/OLPS; DANET Pierre-Yves > IMT/OLR > *Objet :* Link to the minutes for the confcall > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e6Zo_ESYLHd-TpTM7XtCUE0F_LhBmXSXolmSvEkYBxE/edit?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > *From: *juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com > *When: *11:30 - 13:30 28 March 2016 > *Subject: *FIWARE Sustainability proposal > > > > > > > > > > Dial-in phone numbers (all the same access code) > > > > > > *Countries* > > > *Numéro à composer par l'appelant Number to dial from countries* > > *Access code* > > South Africa > > +27118446100 > > 158990425# > > Germany > > +496986798095 > > 158990425# > > Austria > > +4313602774660 > > 158990425# > > Belgium > > +3226200560 > > 158990425# > > Bulgaria > > +35929358191 > > 158990425# > > Denmark > > +4535158025 > > 158990425# > > Spain > > +34917547066 > > 158990425# > > USA > > +19293222428 > > 158990425# > > Finland > > +358981710559 > > 158990425# > > Greec > > +302112111561 > > 158990425# > > Hong Kong > > +85230579042 > > 158990425# > > Hungary > > +3612354712 > > 158990425# > > India > > +912261759003 > > 158990425# > > Ireland > > +35319080801 > > 158990425# > > Italy > > +390809898000 > > 158990425# > > Malaysia > > +60320531854 > > 158990425# > > Mexico > > +525550913079 > > 158990425# > > New Zealand > > +6493391606 > > 158990425# > > Netherlands > > +31132019048 > > 158990425# > > Poland > > +48225830014 > > 158990425# > > Portugal > > +351220608002 > > 158990425# > > Czech Republic > > +420225439761 > > 158990425# > > Rumania > > +40212047047 > > 158990425# > > United Kingdom > > +442076603102 > > 158990425# > > Singapore > > +6565771269 > > 158990425# > > Slovakia > > +421250102647 > > 158990425# > > Sweden > > +46851993072 > > 158990425# > > Switzerland > > +41315478004 > > 158990425# > > Turkey > > +902123755700 > > 158990425# > > France > > +33 1 58 99 04 25 > > > ------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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