dear clara, please do not be angry at us, as i said i do appreciated a lot that you investigated the situation with your attorney and with alicia as well. i just wanted to provide you some clarifications on the topic and indeed this must be well discussed during the meetings with the attorneys on fridays, but the requirements, as pointed out by juanjo and me, are clear and it is now up to the attorneys to find the correct solution. ciao, stefano 2016-03-29 22:44 GMT+02:00 Pezuela Robles, Clara M <clara.pezuela at atos.net>: > Maybe I was using a wrong word, I was referring to our lawyer, and the > comment was done by my manager Alicia, it was a thought from her, > reflecting about what a foundation could mean. That’s all. I just wanted to > share with you her thoughts. It is up to you to decide what to do > > > > Best regards > > > > Clara Pezuela > > Head of IT Market > > Research and Innovation Group > > *ARI booklet > <http://atos.net/en-us/home/we-are/insights-innovation/research-and-innovation.html>* > > Atos Spain SA > > Clara.pezuela at atos.net > > +34 675 62 9974 > > > > [image: Atos_Olympic_Games_Logo_signature] > > > > > > *From:* Juanjo Hierro [mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:46 PM > *To:* stefano de panfilis; Pezuela Robles, Clara M > *Cc:* LE BORGNE Danièle IMT/OLR; > fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org > *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number > for the Foundation > > > > > Agree with Stefano. I don't understand why the Atos attorney had > inferred that main incomes for the FIWARE Foundation were going to be > private funding. This was never stated. Indeed, I recall that we > explained to them that we were foreseeing that the Foundation may easily > get around 1M€-2M€ in the coming two years as funding from the EC. > > Besides this, one requirement that we established is that the FIWARE > Foundation should be able to "invoice" for services. > > I won't follow the recommendation of incorporating the FIWARE Foundation > just for the coordination of the project. That would go against the > vision that the EC and some of the top executives of the FIWARE Core > Industry Group have. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > Coordinator and Chief Architect, FIWARE platform > > IoT Unit, Telefónica > > > > email: juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com > > twitter: @JuanjoHierro > > > > You can follow FIWARE at: > > website: http://www.fiware.org > > twitter: @FIWARE > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 29/03/16 15:19, stefano de panfilis wrote: > > dear clara, > > > > nice you talked with your attorney. i can say: > > 1. absolutely yes the legal form of the fiware foundation will be that of > association even if the name migth stay with "fiware fondation". may > suggestion is indeed to keep this name for the time being. > > > > 2. not sure about the source of the majority of fundings that an > association can receive. indeed the requirement for our (the four of us) > attorneys is that the fiware foundation must and can receive large amount > of money from public authorities where ever they are in the world. so our > attorneys have to fulfill this requirement which will be for sure discussed > during our (legal task force) next meeting this friday. > > > > ciao, > > stefano > > > > 2016-03-29 14:17 GMT+02:00 Pezuela Robles, Clara M <clara.pezuela at atos.net > >: > > Dear all, > > > > Yesterday I was talking with my manager who is involved in legal > discussions about the Foundation, and she told me that our attorneys are > talking about having an association instead of a foundation. > > > > Besides, she recommended me to use the Foundation just for the management > of the project, but not having too much effort in rest of WPs, since main > income for the foundation must be private investment and not public funding. > > > > Is this in line with your thoughts or knowledge about current discussions > at that level? > > > > Best regards > > > > Clara Pezuela > > Head of IT Market > > Research and Innovation Group > > *ARI booklet > <http://atos.net/en-us/home/we-are/insights-innovation/research-and-innovation.html>* > > Atos Spain SA > > Clara.pezuela at atos.net > > +34 675 62 9974 > > > > [image: Atos_Olympic_Games_Logo_signature] > > > > > > *From:* pierreyves.danet at orange.com [mailto:pierreyves.danet at orange.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:07 PM > *To:* De Lama Sanchez, Nuria; > fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org; Pezuela Robles, Clara M > *Cc:* LE BORGNE Danièle IMT/OLR > *Subject:* RE: [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number > for the Foundation > > > > Dear all, > > > > Following my action point of yesterday meeting, I tried to create a PIC > Number, you will find below the mandatory information squared in red (you > can’t proceed without information in these fields. Please let me know what > we have to mention. > > > > Then, in order to create such a PIC, you need to use the ECAS portal with > your login. We can put a point in our Agenda of Wednesday > > > > Kind regards > > > > PY > > > > > > > > > > *De :* fiware-sustainability-proposal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [ > mailto:fiware-sustainability-proposal-bounces at lists.fiware.org > <fiware-sustainability-proposal-bounces at lists.fiware.org>] *De la part de* > De Lama Sanchez, Nuria > *Envoyé :* lundi 28 mars 2016 12:06 > *À :* fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org; Pezuela Robles, > Clara M > *Objet :* [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number for the > Foundation > *Importance :* Haute > > > > Hi all, > > > > Find here a link on how to get the PIC number: > https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/doc/call/fp7/fp7-ict-2013-sme-dca/32991-obtaining_pic_and_ecas_en.pdf. > I also attach a couple of pages that explain the process. 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