[Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number for the Foundation

stefano de panfilis stefano.depanfilis at eng.it
Wed Mar 30 20:23:05 CEST 2016


BRAVISSIMA!!!

2016-03-30 11:19 GMT+02:00 Pezuela Robles, Clara M <clara.pezuela at atos.net>:

> I am not angry usually at work, it does not worth J
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> Regards
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> Clara Pezuela
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> Head of IT Market
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> Research and Innovation Group
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> Atos Spain SA
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> Clara.pezuela at atos.net
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> *From:* stefano de panfilis [mailto:stefano.depanfilis at eng.it]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:09 AM
> *To:* Pezuela Robles, Clara M
> *Cc:* Juanjo Hierro; LE BORGNE Danièle IMT/OLR;
> fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number
> for the Foundation
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> dear clara,
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> please do not be angry at us, as i said i do appreciated a lot that you
> investigated the situation with your attorney and with alicia as well.
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> i just wanted to provide you some clarifications on the topic and indeed
> this must be well discussed during the meetings with the attorneys on
> fridays, but the requirements, as pointed out by juanjo and me, are clear
> and it is now up to the attorneys to find the correct solution.
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> ciao,
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> stefano
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> 2016-03-29 22:44 GMT+02:00 Pezuela Robles, Clara M <clara.pezuela at atos.net
> >:
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> Maybe I was using a wrong word, I was referring to our lawyer, and the
> comment was done by my manager Alicia, it was a thought from her,
> reflecting about what a foundation could mean. That’s all. I just wanted to
> share with you her thoughts. It is up to you to decide what to do
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> Best regards
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> Clara Pezuela
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> Head of IT Market
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> Research and Innovation Group
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> *ARI booklet
> <http://atos.net/en-us/home/we-are/insights-innovation/research-and-innovation.html>*
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> Atos Spain SA
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> Clara.pezuela at atos.net
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> +34 675 62 9974
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> *From:* Juanjo Hierro [mailto:juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:46 PM
> *To:* stefano de panfilis; Pezuela Robles, Clara M
> *Cc:* LE BORGNE Danièle IMT/OLR;
> fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number
> for the Foundation
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>   Agree with Stefano.   I don't understand why the Atos attorney had
> inferred that main incomes for the FIWARE Foundation were going to be
> private funding.   This was never stated.  Indeed, I recall that we
> explained to them that we were foreseeing that the Foundation may easily
> get around 1M€-2M€ in the coming two years as funding from the EC.
>
>   Besides this, one requirement that we established is that the FIWARE
> Foundation should be able to "invoice" for services.
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>   I won't follow the recommendation of incorporating the FIWARE Foundation
> just for the coordination of the project.   That would go against the
> vision that the EC and some of the top executives of the FIWARE Core
> Industry Group have.
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>   Cheers,
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> -- Juanjo
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> IoT Unit, Telefónica
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> twitter: @JuanjoHierro
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> On 29/03/16 15:19, stefano de panfilis wrote:
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> dear clara,
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> nice you talked with your attorney. i can say:
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> 1. absolutely yes the legal form of the fiware foundation will be that of
> association even if the name migth stay with "fiware fondation". may
> suggestion is indeed to keep this name for the time being.
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> 2. not sure about the source of the majority of fundings that an
> association can receive. indeed the requirement for our (the four of us)
> attorneys is that the fiware foundation must and can receive large amount
> of money from public authorities where ever they are in the world. so our
> attorneys have to fulfill this requirement which will be for sure discussed
> during our (legal task force) next meeting this friday.
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> ciao,
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> stefano
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> 2016-03-29 14:17 GMT+02:00 Pezuela Robles, Clara M <clara.pezuela at atos.net
> >:
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> Dear all,
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> Yesterday I was talking with my manager who is involved in legal
> discussions about the Foundation, and she told me that our attorneys are
> talking about having an association instead of a foundation.
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> Besides, she recommended me to use the Foundation just for the management
> of the project, but not having too much effort in rest of WPs, since main
> income for the foundation must be private investment and not public funding.
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> Is this in line with your thoughts or knowledge about current discussions
> at that level?
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> Best regards
>
>
>
> Clara Pezuela
>
> Head of IT Market
>
> Research and Innovation Group
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> *ARI booklet
> <http://atos.net/en-us/home/we-are/insights-innovation/research-and-innovation.html>*
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> Atos Spain SA
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> Clara.pezuela at atos.net
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> +34 675 62 9974
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> *From:* pierreyves.danet at orange.com [mailto:pierreyves.danet at orange.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:07 PM
> *To:* De Lama Sanchez, Nuria;
> fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org; Pezuela Robles, Clara M
> *Cc:* LE BORGNE Danièle IMT/OLR
> *Subject:* RE: [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number
> for the Foundation
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> Dear all,
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> Following my action point of yesterday meeting, I tried to create a PIC
> Number, you will find below the mandatory information squared in red (you
> can’t proceed without information in these fields. Please let me know what
> we have to mention.
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> Then, in order to create such a PIC, you need to use the ECAS portal with
> your login. We can put a point in our  Agenda of Wednesday
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> Kind regards
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> PY
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> *De :* fiware-sustainability-proposal-bounces at lists.fiware.org [
> mailto:fiware-sustainability-proposal-bounces at lists.fiware.org
> <fiware-sustainability-proposal-bounces at lists.fiware.org>] *De la part de*
> De Lama Sanchez, Nuria
> *Envoyé :* lundi 28 mars 2016 12:06
> *À :* fiware-sustainability-proposal at lists.fiware.org; Pezuela Robles,
> Clara M
> *Objet :* [Fiware-sustainability-proposal] Getting the PIC number for the
> Foundation
> *Importance :* Haute
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> Hi all,
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> Find here a link on how to get the PIC number:
> https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/doc/call/fp7/fp7-ict-2013-sme-dca/32991-obtaining_pic_and_ecas_en.pdf.
> I also attach a couple of pages that explain the process. The important
> thing is to follow the process ASAP to understand which information we need
> to fill in the system (for sure some legal data will be needed).
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