[Fiware-tech-help] Update on Kurento implementation

[Franck Le Gall]

Hello

I confirm the fiware-fic3-coaching at lists.fiware.org<mailto:fiware-fic3-coaching at lists.fiware.org> is the FI-C3 mailing list to generate tickets which can then internally be assigned to the right persons

Also, the general forum for FIWARE questions is ask.fiware.org. Did you went there ?

Franck


De : stefano de panfilis [mailto:stefano.depanfilis at eng.it]
Envoyé : mardi 1 décembre 2015 15:31
À : Alberto Pierini <albertopierini at gmail.com>
Cc : Helmut Herglotz <h.herglotz at sofasession.com>; fiware-tech-help at lists.fiware.org; Stefano Bider Sofasession <s.bider at sofasession.com>; Carmen Mac Williams <carmen at grassroots-arts.eu>; Franck Le Gall <franck.le-gall at eglobalmark.com>
Objet : Re: [Fiware-tech-help] Update on Kurento implementation


Dear Alberto,

You did somehow rigth, i mean correct to have contacted Franck,  your fiware coach,  but this should had been through the fiware-fic3-coaching at lists.fiware.org<mailto:fiware-fic3-coaching at lists.fiware.org> (please franck to confirm). This way a proper ticket will be generated  and Lost somewhere leaving you without help.

Please Franck keep Alberto towards the end solution of his problem.

Thank you in advance!

Ciao
Stefano
Il 01/Dic/2015 11:31, "Alberto Pierini" <albertopierini at gmail.com<mailto:albertopierini at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
Hi Stefano,

thanks for the reply.
The accelerator is FI-C3.
Would you be so kind to give me a contact (we previously contacted Franck Le Gall but our needs are very technical ) or could you please redirect the ticket yourself?

Thanks,
--
Alberto

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:20 AM, stefano de panfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it<mailto:stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>> wrote:

Dear Alberto,

Sorry with all of this bureaucracy ...
To which accelerator you belong to? You should send it to them, but I can of course redirect your ticket myself.

Ciao
Stefano
Il 01/Dic/2015 10:23, "Alberto Pierini" <albertopierini at gmail.com<mailto:albertopierini at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
Hi there,

yesterday I asked for help to Luis López Fernández about kurento development, and, being me part of a FIWARE acceleration program (company sofasession), he suggested me to contact FIWARE helpdesk directly.
It's about developing and installing a new kurento module (not filter).
All the details are in the forwarded email.

Hope to hear from you soon,
Thanks,
--
Alberto Pierini

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Luis López Fernández <luis.lopez at urjc.es<mailto:luis.lopez at urjc.es>> wrote:
Hi Alberto,

See comments in-line


El 30/11/2015, a las 17:00, Alberto Pierini <albertopierini at gmail.com<mailto:albertopierini at gmail.com>> escribió:


Hi Luis,

I'm Alberto, one of the developer at sofasession.
As you know we are in the process of integrating kurento functionalities in our technology stack. We already managed to plug kurento in our signalling server, and establish peer connections between the clients and kurento.

Unfortunately now I'm struggling to implement a brand new kurento module.
This new GStreamer module should mix local tracks and "expose" the src pad. I already implemented the gstream logic but unfortunately the process to port it into kurento is far from trivial. There's no documentation about it, and the small sample to create a new module is about creating a filter, according to the forum it is kind of outdated, and it doesn't compile anyway.

Kurento extensibility mechanism are designed for filters. Kurento documentation dealing with Filter extensions is up to date and we don't have any (serious) reports of having it out of sync or failing in compilation. Creating a Kurento extension out of the filter model is, as you are noticing, quite complex and requires to manage a lot of different variables and conditions. In general that's not a trivial task.


I was wondering if you could help anyhow in this process.

I understand that you are coming from a FIWARE acceleration. In that case, you need to use the FIWARE helpdesk for receiving support. Open a ticket with your request and we'll figure out how to address it.


Right now the only documentation that I have access to, is the one located at https://www.kurento.org/docs/current/index.html. Is there a more technical, more developer-oriented one available perhaps?

This is the most advanced documentation we have and it should be enough for doing filter extensions. For going deeper into KMS internals I'm afraid the code is the only available additional resource.



I also recently asked for help in the forum (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/kurento/N6St7t1EvKs https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/kurento/8E2NtDodPlI).

I saw it, but as you have noticed, doing such type of extension is complex. For being able to really help you I would need to invest many hours of my developers and FIWARE is not providing such much resources now (Kurento budget in FIWARE has been cut in 60K€ in the last couple of months). Lets open the issue in the FIWARE help desk (so that the time we invest on it officially counts from FIWARE perspective) and lets work together to see if we can provide you some hints on how to progress.

Best regards.




Thanks,
--
Alberto Pierini

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Carmen Mac Williams <Carmen at grassroots-arts.eu<mailto:Carmen at grassroots-arts.eu>> wrote:
Hi Helmut,
Danke für die Info.
My contact person for Kurento is
Luis López Fernández luis.lopez at urjc.es<mailto:luis.lopez at urjc.es>
Subdirector de Investigación y Relaciones con la Empresa
Escuela Técnica Superior de Ingenieros de Telecomunicación
Universidad Rey Juan Carlos
http://www.etsit.urjc.es<http://www.etsit.urjc.es/>
e-mail: luis.lopez at urjc.es<mailto:luis.lopez at urjc.es>
Tf1: +34 914 888 747<tel:%2B34%20914%20888%20747>
Tf2: + 34 914 888 713<tel:%2B%2034%20914%20888%20713>

Ich habe mit meinem Partner Dirk Krause (Technischer Leiter von Pixelpark) selbst den Kurento Enabler ausprobiert und installiert im Februar 2014. Ich sende Dir unseren Email Exchange.
Vielleicht richte Dich direct an ihn.
Seine Mitarbeiter sind Ivan Boni und Miguel.

Weiter hat Johnny von Iminds mir erzählt, dass Du eine telefonische Beratung von Iminds Living Lab bekommen hast.

Sie haben mir gesagt, dass Du Ihnen in diesem Gespräch gesagt hast, dass “your ideas and Your cofounders may not be aligned. “
Gibt es vielleicht ein Problem in Deinem Team?

Viele Grüsse

Carmen

Von: Helmut Herglotz [mailto:h.herglotz at sofasession.com<mailto:h.herglotz at sofasession.com>]
Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 14:22
An: 'Carmen Mac Williamss' <Carmen at grassroots-arts.eu<mailto:Carmen at grassroots-arts.eu>>
Cc: s.bider at sofasession.com<mailto:s.bider at sofasession.com>; Alberto Pierini <albertopierini at gmail.com<mailto:albertopierini at gmail.com>>
Betreff: Update on Kurento implementation

Hi Carmen,

Just a short update from our side:

We have been working on implementing Kurento into our system architecture. Alberto or Stefano contacted you regarding a technical issue, which we were able to resolve on our own. Alberto contacted Franck Le-Gall a couple of days ago with a technical question, which he was not able to answer (Franck referred Alberto to a newsletter subscription… this is a good way to get updated about news, but will not help in solving concrete questions in case they pop up).

We met Ivan Garcia from Kurento in Vienna earlier this year, we’ll also get in touch with him.

Thanks a lot and talk soon!

Helmut




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