Hii everyone, We have booked a special slot on the matter as part of the TSC today. I have created a specific section in the pre-minutes <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1awNLeKxZ41dCERY9_KzANUW3EPILHDIedObg7LQIl4c/edit#heading=h.wdxwdz7m837q> and added input from mails sent by Federico and Marius. Cheers, Juanjo On 19/8/21 20:10, Marius Snyman wrote: > Hello Federico > > Is self-hosting an option for the foundation? If so, consider looking > closer at https://goharbor.io/ <https://goharbor.io/> > > Here is a video explaining the features, which are quite impressive: > https://youtu.be/4zZiBcvZmgQ <https://youtu.be/4zZiBcvZmgQ> > > > Groete / Regards* > Marius Snyman* > Mobile: +27 (82) 553-3532 > > Profile: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariussnyman/ > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariussnyman/> > Business: http://teclab.co.za <http://teclab.co.za/> > - Interests:http://citysmart.co.za <http://citysmart.co.za/> > > > > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 18:10, Federico Michele Facca > <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com > <mailto:federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>> wrote: > > Dear Stefano, > indeed I also wrote to Ulrich. > > About the PS, following your message, I imagined Aurelien running > to Docker's lawyers team saying "Paolo Alto, we have a problem" > > In general, many of the devops platforms restricted their free > version and introduced "open source programmes" support, > but Docker one, is the most restrictive I have seen so far... for > example, CircleCI consider any public git repository with an open > source license > eligible for the programme. > > Cheers, > > *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA* > /CTO, Head of Martel Lab/ > +41 788075838 > *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/>- INNOVATION, > WE MAKE IT HAPPEN > Click*HERE*to download Martel reports and white papers! > <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/> > Follow us on*TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate> > > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:45, Stefano De Panfilis > <stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org > <mailto:stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org>> wrote: > > dear federico, > > i agree with you on the urgency of the matter and we shall > certainly put this item at the next tsc agenda and thus the > bod. i mean there is the need for a formal request from the > tsc to decide on this matter which is somehow "technical". > whatever we consider it anycase shall the topic shall be > treated in good synch and agreement by the two bodies. > honestly i do not see any particular issue. > > i was meaning your question in the ps part of your email, when > you say in a kind of "devil advocate" manner, to say the least > ;-): "PS: I would also argue that following your approach in a > strict sense, you should not accept even projects from Apache > or other OS foundations, if they are supported by commercial > organizations (which is the case for 100% of them, basically)." > > ciao, > stefano > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:27, Federico Michele Facca > <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com > <mailto:federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>> wrote: > > Dear Stefano, > I am not sure what you mean by "last point", anyhow no > reply so far by Aurelien. > > I am sure that FIWARE Foundation is eligible for the Open > Source programme, and that may be a way to go (see option 1). > > In general, the limitations introduced may cause different > problems, but the one I think that is i see more impacting > to FIWARE is that for GEs hosted on single organisations > (e.g. Martel, UPM, ect) docker hub repository the > following limitations apply: > > - 100 pulls for not registered users > - 200 pulls for registered users > > So beyond 100 daily pull from a repository (if > unregistered as in most of the cases when just using > containers), people will get an error... Think for example > if we organize a hackathon: the treshould will be reached > in seconds :/ > > Cheers, > > *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA* > /CTO, Head of Martel Lab/ > +41 788075838 > *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/>- > INNOVATION, WE MAKE IT HAPPEN > Click*HERE*to download Martel reports and white papers! > <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/> > Follow us on*TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate> > > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:06, Stefano De Panfilis > <stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org > <mailto:stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org>> wrote: > > dear federico, > > did you get an answer from aurélien about your last > point which is definitely quite tricky? > > ciao, > stefano > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:21, Federico Michele Facca > <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com > <mailto:federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>> wrote: > > Dear All, > recently terms and conditions of Docker Hub usage > changed a lot, and unless willing to pay, this is > going to affect all organisations with free > accounts that > use Docker Hub to distribute docker images of > their FIWARE GEs. > > Options I see: > - All official GEs are just hosted under FIWARE > Docker Hub repo. > -> Pro: FIWARE Foundation should be able to get > the OS status recognition, and so no > limitation will apply. > -> Cons: maintainers will lose visibility, and > users will need to be duly informed of changing > the repo to use docker images. > > - Maintainers move to alternative solutions to > Docker Hub. > -> Pro: Maintainers will retain visibility. > -> Cons: Users will need to be duly informed of > changing the repo to use docker images. > > *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA* > /CTO, Head of Martel Lab/ > +41 788075838 > *MARTEL INNOVATE* > <https://www.martel-innovate.com/>- INNOVATION, WE > MAKE IT HAPPEN > Click*HERE*to download Martel reports and white > papers! > <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/> > Follow us on*TWITTER* > <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate> > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Federico Michele Facca* > <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com > <mailto:federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:14 > Subject: Re: Your eligibility for the Docker Open > Source Program > To: Aurelien Suarez <aurelien-suarez at docker.com > <mailto:aurelien-suarez at docker.com>> > Cc: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org > <mailto:juanjose.hierro at fiware.org>>, Ulrich Ahle > <ulrich.ahle at fiware.org > <mailto:ulrich.ahle at fiware.org>> > > > Dear Aurelien, > The components we deliver open source are part of > the FIWARE Open Source platform which is backed by > a non profit organization: the FIWARE Foundation. > Simply as a way of working FIWARE does not force > to transfer repositories under the control of the > association, they just mirror them. > You can check, for example, that quantumleap is > listed here: > https://www.fiware.org/developers/catalogue/ > <https://www.fiware.org/developers/catalogue/> > > This is the case for the projects part of FIWARE > (e.g. Context Broker, maintained by Telefonica), > unless maintained and developed by the FIWARE > Foundation itself. > Clearly, if contributors like us, cannot benefit, > that's gonna affect large part of the project of > parf of FIWARE, unless the single organisation > are willing to pay Docker hub subscriptions. I > assume, being a lot of them SMEs, it's easier that > they will give up on Docker hub. > > @Juanjo Hierro <mailto:juanjose.hierro at fiware.org> > @Ulrich Ahle <mailto:ulrich.ahle at fiware.org> I > guess this is something we can put in the Agenda > of the next Board of Directors of the Foundation, > to decide a common strategy > to tackle the issue. > > Best, > Federico > > PS: I would also argue that following your > approach in a strict sense, you should not accept > even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, > if they are supported > by commercial organizations (which is the case for > 100% of them, basically). > > > *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA* > /CTO, Head of Martel Lab/ > +41 788075838 > *MARTEL INNOVATE* > <https://www.martel-innovate.com/>- INNOVATION, WE > MAKE IT HAPPEN > Click*HERE*to download Martel reports and white > papers! > <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/> > Follow us on*TWITTER* > <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate> > > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:00, Aurelien Suarez > <aurelien-suarez at docker.com > <mailto:aurelien-suarez at docker.com>> wrote: > > Hello Federico, > > Thank you once again for submitting your > application to the Docker Open Source > Program. The Docker Open Source program is > designed to help non-commercial members of the > open-source continue driving the adoption of > their software. Among other benefits, for > approved Open Source Program contributors, we > whitelist their organizations’ namespaces so > that pulls from their users are not subject to > the policies for data pull rates. > > We have designed this program to help > individual contributors, nonprofits and > educational institutions. Because your project > is backed by a commercial organization, we > regret to inform you that your Docker > namespace is not eligible. 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