dear thierry, very good points indeed! the very critical aspect is that the ec is pushing quite strongly the smes towards the direction of using fiware as an "owned" software, i.e. not as a service, which of course i definitively figth as being wrong, if not opposite to what intended by us, approach about the usage of fiware. nevertheless it is also true that the current status of fi-lab is not that strong and efficient despite the wonderfull effort provided by the colleagues of tid and red.es (we have to be honest on this) and it is a clear and easy drawback that many smes will go for their own installations .... both aspects than require a clear improvement! honestly not sure giving this outside will solve the issue. i remind you that engineering did a first assessment in june 2013 and the results provided at that time were not considered. i think what we need is a change of pace from everybody! as said earlier this morning i cannot attend, however alessandra and davide will. ciao, stefano 2014-09-29 11:40 GMT+02:00 <thierry.nagellen at orange.com>: > Hi all, > > We have to discuss this issue in details. Some points are related to > FIWARE internal processes (software, docs & catalogue where we are less > agile than for dev and backlog) and some other to potential external > resources (test of what should be not a blueprint but a software fully > packaged for different OS! We have now a picture of someone who does not > want to use anything aaS but wants to install everything... and a good > developer able to manage configuration for Tomcat or other tools is also a > "good" SME > > Many different points especially if everybody imagines what are the > expectations of a SME... Is there only one profile of a SME? or many > profiles? Last workshop in Munich has shown that there are many profiles > and some would expect more technical content while other would asked for > "commercial" softwares. > > BR > Thierry > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : fiware-wg-leaders-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org [mailto: > fiware-wg-leaders-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] De la part de depa at eng.it > Envoyé : lundi 29 septembre 2014 06:34 > À : Juanjo Hierro; fiware-chapter-leaders-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org; > fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org; > fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org > Cc : fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org > Objet : [Fiware-wg-leaders] R: [Fiware-chapter-leaders] URGENT: FIWARE > coordination confcall - response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE > GEris in the Catalogue > > Dear Juanjo and all, > > As previously told you unfortunately today i cannot attend the meeting as > involved in fiware talk and planning to the general directors of > engineering. > So today engineering will be represented by alessandra and davide. > > However, although i do agree with your analysis of the situation, to me a > budget of 600k is nonsense. As engineering we did already this work in > fiware rel.1 and although expensive it was certainly much cheaper. I think > the same, and this already a lot, can be done for 100k max. > > Ciao > Stefano > > Le mail ti raggiungono ovunque con BlackBerry® from Vodafone! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> > Sender: fiware-chapter-leaders-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org > Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 02:03:19 > To: <fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org>; < > fiware-chapter-architects at lists.fi-ware.org> > Cc: <fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org> > Subject: [Fiware-chapter-leaders] URGENT: FIWARE coordination confcall - > response to technical assessment by HLRS on FIWARE GEris in the Catalogue > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-chapter-leaders mailing list > Fiware-chapter-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-chapter-leaders > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wg-leaders mailing list > Fiware-wg-leaders at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-wg-leaders > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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